And who in government or any government agency is "punished" by him taking this action? Not a one of them. Who suffers from this? New Zealanders, the taxpayers and those who rely on the things achieved with tax dollars. That is who suffers. Along with our legal system being tied up for gods know how many combined man hours, when they have plenty of work to do already. It would be much more useful if Dotcom were to identify specific individuals who did not follow the laws of the land, and tried to get specific actions taken against those that did the wrong thing.
There were a number of parties involved; -- Somebody in charge of the intelligence agency which decided to treat the man like a foreigner with no legal rights, having not read the newspapers or whatever to notice that he had gained citizenship already. -- A judge who signed surveillance and/or search warrants without noticing they were not the correct forms. -- An MP or person of ministerial persuasion who bowed to pressure from a foreign government and put pressure on one or more departments to take action without checking their facts first and getting the correct documentation together.
What it comes down to is, Dotcom is basically taking his vengeance out on the people of New Zealand, as a dent of that size in the country's budget takes away from the taxpayers and does not punish a single member of the current government, the police force or the GCSB in any way whatsoever. It punishes the citizens. After we have already voted out the people who were in charge when he was mistreated.
and he is no more or less protected by the laws and due legal process than you are.
Except, I am not a criminal. I am not hiding from another country's legal system, and have not made millions of dollars through dodgy practices.
The problem with this is that the "protecting" legal system can often mistakenly punish the innocent or fail to deal appropriately with the guilty. In this case, the fact that some over-zealous officers of the law got their paperwork wrong does not alter the space-time continuum sufficiently to have prevented his criminal activity from happening in the first place.
I wasn't suggesting the government could absolve itself of ALL responsibility, just the correct placing of blame for those who dealt with that super criminal, who probably bribed one of them to get citizenship in the first place.
I think he should be able to sue the National party and all members who were involved at the time. It was their decision to allow what happened. The rest of the government and the taxpayers of New Zealand should have no liability. Apart from that, I still don't understand why they haven't just pushed him onto a plane and sent him off to meet with the FBI or whoever.
I turned off mainstream music long ago. Some of the more interesting stuff I have found recently is from Voodoo Rhythm Records, well worth checking out their web site and their youtube channels. Lots of interesting indie stuff from Europe as well as Americana blues rock, garage, trash. Keeps me browsing and listening for hours.
I started listening to psychobilly, which derives from the old rock n roll styles, and rockabilly, but has a much faster punk beat to it. However I don't imagine it will be getting into the pop music charts.
I don't see ads there either. Turned of adblock and refreshed the page. There is a small list of recommended projects on the right. Is your browser infected maybe? Do you have third-party toolbars or anything like that?
Are you implying that GITHUB has a QA team which vets every project and every download on their site?
I usually check around for the reputation of any software I am considering installing, if there is something abusive on any open source site, I would expect to find discussions of that someplace.
You had rocks? All we had was mammoth turds. If you pressed to hard in an addition, the results would get OR'ed together and it was hell debugging them once the flies found us.
What was wrong with the modification dates? My project has always shown how slow and lazy I am with software updates, with great precision. WTF are you talking about?
Can anybody state exactly how many download/installers actually had the bundled adware? As far as I can tell it was only a few projects, and those were projects which appeared to have been abandoned by their original creators. All the software which was still under active management and being updated was adware free, unless the project owner decided to include it.
Am I wrong in my recollections?
The crap decisions by the management of the day were actually quite small, the massive over-reaction by the citizens of the net were much larger than the original problem. I also suspect that, compared to today's level of advertising encroachment on everybody's internet and social-media feeding holes, the weak attempt at adding a revenue generator to the freely hosted software back then would be considered a very minor annoyance. In fact new young users of the internet probably have to clue what all the bitching is about.
Hey, SF was my reason for learning to use GIT. A number of years ago I migrated my project from their original version control system to GIT, and whenever a user of my app contacts me about an extra feature I get into that code, thank myself for making useful code comments, and add that feature in. It doesn't have to get weekly updates to be a live project, and SF suits me just fine.
I haven't updated my project for 3 years, but I do intend to fix a few bugs sometime soon... any minute now I may start coding... Really, if any user actually found the main bug I am concerned with and reported it, I would be writing the fix immediately, since the users are all happy with the features they use, it is on the long-term plans to get around to it. Honest. : )
The previous owners only interfered with a small selection of projects. Other project owners were given the option of including a revenue generator in their installers. My app was never altered by anybody other than myself, and my users were still happy to keep downloading and using it. I have had a good 10 years of hosting and support, and the new owners are very determined to move on from all the silliness and mistakes of the past, I just wish all the whiners would get over it too.
I had some visitors with a young 11-ish child, and the TV was on (which wasn't my choice) but when the ad break came on I hit the mute button so we could talk. The child went ape-shit crazy cos she couldn't hear the ads. It's like she needed the audio fix that came with them or something. It was scary and reminded me why I don't make a habit of watching real time TV.
That has to be the least important aspect of all. If you have a contamination of some kind and you ask your friendly household information device for 'something to kill bacteria' and instead of a useful product, it tells you to use the most highly paid for response, and you buy something that smells pretty but kills no bacteria at all, then you have just been fucked by the advertising regime. Who gives a fuck about being 'spied on' if families are being misled and given bad solutions to their problems because they thought they should ask that piece of shit AI device. Get your priorities right.
Gullible people were NOT his only victims. What about everybody who does not want to receive unsolicited shit mails in their inbox all the time? This crap keeps getting through all the SPAM filters and makes email a useless joke. Anybody participating in the misuse and abuse of the email system should be punished heavily, they are beyond redemption.
But Google is not and has never been the only search engine available.
People choose to use Google.
Sure, lots of people like to point out that some device users just purchased a device and it was the default search tool installed on it, but they have no right to complain about the company behind it if they never took the time to research it and/or switch to another search provider.
It's like if I put a hammer on a stand on the roadside with a sign saying "Hit yourself on the head with this hammer for free!", then somebody came along, hit themselves on the head, then went running for a lawyer because my free hammer harmed them.
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And who in government or any government agency is "punished" by him taking this action?
Not a one of them.
Who suffers from this? New Zealanders, the taxpayers and those who rely on the things achieved with tax dollars. That is who suffers. Along with our legal system being tied up for gods know how many combined man hours, when they have plenty of work to do already.
It would be much more useful if Dotcom were to identify specific individuals who did not follow the laws of the land, and tried to get specific actions taken against those that did the wrong thing.
There were a number of parties involved;
-- Somebody in charge of the intelligence agency which decided to treat the man like a foreigner with no legal rights, having not read the newspapers or whatever to notice that he had gained citizenship already.
-- A judge who signed surveillance and/or search warrants without noticing they were not the correct forms.
-- An MP or person of ministerial persuasion who bowed to pressure from a foreign government and put pressure on one or more departments to take action without checking their facts first and getting the correct documentation together.
What it comes down to is, Dotcom is basically taking his vengeance out on the people of New Zealand, as a dent of that size in the country's budget takes away from the taxpayers and does not punish a single member of the current government, the police force or the GCSB in any way whatsoever. It punishes the citizens. After we have already voted out the people who were in charge when he was mistreated.
and he is no more or less protected by the laws and due legal process than you are.
Except, I am not a criminal. I am not hiding from another country's legal system, and have not made millions of dollars through dodgy practices.
The problem with this is that the "protecting" legal system can often mistakenly punish the innocent or fail to deal appropriately with the guilty. In this case, the fact that some over-zealous officers of the law got their paperwork wrong does not alter the space-time continuum sufficiently to have prevented his criminal activity from happening in the first place.
I wasn't suggesting the government could absolve itself of ALL responsibility, just the correct placing of blame for those who dealt with that super criminal, who probably bribed one of them to get citizenship in the first place.
Actually he will make the Mexicans get it back. All that rock will make a damned big wall.
I think he should be able to sue the National party and all members who were involved at the time.
It was their decision to allow what happened.
The rest of the government and the taxpayers of New Zealand should have no liability.
Apart from that, I still don't understand why they haven't just pushed him onto a plane and sent him off to meet with the FBI or whoever.
I turned off mainstream music long ago. Some of the more interesting stuff I have found recently is from Voodoo Rhythm Records, well worth checking out their web site and their youtube channels. Lots of interesting indie stuff from Europe as well as Americana blues rock, garage, trash. Keeps me browsing and listening for hours.
I started listening to psychobilly, which derives from the old rock n roll styles, and rockabilly, but has a much faster punk beat to it.
However I don't imagine it will be getting into the pop music charts.
Wish I could hear the names Frank Zappa would be calling you now.
I cannot find advertising on the site like you describe it.
Do you use one of those dubious ISP services that inject advertising into web content?
I don't see ads there either. Turned of adblock and refreshed the page. There is a small list of recommended projects on the right.
Is your browser infected maybe? Do you have third-party toolbars or anything like that?
Are you implying that GITHUB has a QA team which vets every project and every download on their site?
I usually check around for the reputation of any software I am considering installing, if there is something abusive on any open source site, I would expect to find discussions of that someplace.
You had rocks? All we had was mammoth turds. If you pressed to hard in an addition, the results would get OR'ed together and it was hell debugging them once the flies found us.
What was wrong with the modification dates?
My project has always shown how slow and lazy I am with software updates, with great precision.
WTF are you talking about?
Can anybody state exactly how many download/installers actually had the bundled adware?
As far as I can tell it was only a few projects, and those were projects which appeared to have been abandoned by their original creators.
All the software which was still under active management and being updated was adware free, unless the project owner decided to include it.
Am I wrong in my recollections?
The crap decisions by the management of the day were actually quite small, the massive over-reaction by the citizens of the net were much larger than the original problem. I also suspect that, compared to today's level of advertising encroachment on everybody's internet and social-media feeding holes, the weak attempt at adding a revenue generator to the freely hosted software back then would be considered a very minor annoyance. In fact new young users of the internet probably have to clue what all the bitching is about.
Hey, SF was my reason for learning to use GIT. A number of years ago I migrated my project from their original version control system to GIT, and whenever a user of my app contacts me about an extra feature I get into that code, thank myself for making useful code comments, and add that feature in. It doesn't have to get weekly updates to be a live project, and SF suits me just fine.
I haven't updated my project for 3 years, but I do intend to fix a few bugs sometime soon... any minute now I may start coding...
Really, if any user actually found the main bug I am concerned with and reported it, I would be writing the fix immediately, since the users are all happy with the features they use, it is on the long-term plans to get around to it. Honest. : )
The previous owners only interfered with a small selection of projects. Other project owners were given the option of including a revenue generator in their installers.
My app was never altered by anybody other than myself, and my users were still happy to keep downloading and using it.
I have had a good 10 years of hosting and support, and the new owners are very determined to move on from all the silliness and mistakes of the past, I just wish all the whiners would get over it too.
Can't you just pull the project down and use your local GIT to view changes?
That was mean
I had some visitors with a young 11-ish child, and the TV was on (which wasn't my choice) but when the ad break came on I hit the mute button so we could talk. The child went ape-shit crazy cos she couldn't hear the ads. It's like she needed the audio fix that came with them or something. It was scary and reminded me why I don't make a habit of watching real time TV.
But the ad said it was "clinically proven" and even showed some people in white lab coats!!
the device is also spying on their home 24/7
That has to be the least important aspect of all. If you have a contamination of some kind and you ask your friendly household information device for 'something to kill bacteria' and instead of a useful product, it tells you to use the most highly paid for response, and you buy something that smells pretty but kills no bacteria at all, then you have just been fucked by the advertising regime. Who gives a fuck about being 'spied on' if families are being misled and given bad solutions to their problems because they thought they should ask that piece of shit AI device. Get your priorities right.
Gullible people were NOT his only victims. What about everybody who does not want to receive unsolicited shit mails in their inbox all the time? This crap keeps getting through all the SPAM filters and makes email a useless joke. Anybody participating in the misuse and abuse of the email system should be punished heavily, they are beyond redemption.
But Google is not and has never been the only search engine available.
People choose to use Google.
Sure, lots of people like to point out that some device users just purchased a device and it was the default search tool installed on it, but they have no right to complain about the company behind it if they never took the time to research it and/or switch to another search provider.
It's like if I put a hammer on a stand on the roadside with a sign saying "Hit yourself on the head with this hammer for free!", then somebody came along, hit themselves on the head, then went running for a lawyer because my free hammer harmed them.