Let a = 0.999... then we can multiply both sides by ten yielding 10a = 9.999... then subtracting a (which is 0.999...) from both sides we get 10a — a = 9.999... — 0.999... which reduces to 9a = 9 and thus a = 1. Mathematicians as far back as Euler have used various means to prove 0.999... = 1
OK, this is just dumb. In what world is.999 * 10 = 9.999?.999 * 10 is 9.99. What is going on here is that hes adding another.009 to one side of the equation, invalidating it.
I'm sorry, what? In what conceivable way are you kept in slavery?
What, precisely, would you call a class of people who are denied a real education, stuffed into ghettos and barrios, and forced into lives full of working dead-end jobs or languishing on public assistance in "exchange" for the guarantee that they will vote for the political party that the slave-masters tell them to vote for?
First of all, you are simply asserting that taxes cause these problems without offering any proof. Secondly, there is no reason to believe that taxes are the cause of any of these problems. It is far more plausible that rising income inequality is the cause by denying the poor a large enough share of wealth to get out of their situation. A cause more easily solved by a more progressive tax system that actually addresses that problem rather than a no-tax system that helps no one with anything. You have also completely left out both an alternate way of getting police etc other than taxes nor can you point out a tax-less government, or a government of any kind, that does not have a poverty issue. In fact, governments with more progressive tax systems tend to have higher quality of living standards.
How have they lied about improving education?
Despite all the money put into education over the years, has even one Democrat program done anything but spend more money with no repeatable results on any appreciable scale? NO. Even the "stellar magnet schools" and "stellar charter schools" work well for about 5 years before sliding back down into the toilet.
Yet, you have completely failed to demonstrate how anyone lied about anything. You just say "schools suck". The biggest relationship to school suckage is how much which tends to vary with the amount of wealth in the school district. Please point me to some statistics on how much more money schools are getting per capita in real dollars between now and 50 years ago. Not to mention that you have given no alternative whatsoever.
So, I'm confused. You think it's ok to have racially based attacks on people? Or maybe its attacks on gay people that you are ok with?
I don't agree that attacks on anyone are a good idea. But neither do I believe that the punishment should be any different whether you attacked someone because of their skin color, or their sexual preference, or the fact that they were your competition in a drug gang, or because they slept with your wife, or because you wanted to steal their car, or any other reason someone would have to do violence to another human being.
It's the ACT that is to be punished, not the thought. When we start regulating thought, we slide into a very, very, very bad place.
The ACT IS what is being punished. You do not go to jail for thinking or even talking about what would be a hate crime. Only when you actually commit a physical crime do you get jailed and punished. You don't seem to have any idea what thought crime is. By your logic we should not give harsher sentencing to premeditated murder than we do to a "crime of passion" since the only difference is the thought that goes into it.
Bush and Reagan have been the biggest contributors to the national debt.
Bush and Reagan's major debt contributions come from times when DEMOCRATS HELD THE CONGRESS. Remember, you idiot, it is the CONGRESS that makes the budget and controls the purse strings - all the President gets is an up-or-down, veto/pass vote.
I'm moving this here so I don't have to repeat myself.
Under Reagan, through Bush, and - here's the important part - THROUGH THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF CLINTON WHEN THE DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED CONGRESS - the debt went up. Only when the Republicans took control of the purse strings did that trend reverse.
You are just plain wrong. The '92 deficit (Bush) was $399B, the '93 defi
You got that one wrong, you meant to write Republicans (homophobic, racist, anti-middle class...).
As opposed to Democrats, who keep people in what is basically slavery
I'm sorry, what? In what conceivable way are you kept in slavery? One of the dumbest things I have ever heard is the assertion that taxes are tantamount to slavery or tyranny. Taxes are the price you pay to live in a society. They pay for police, firefighters, roads a military an innumerable number of things that allow you to live the comfortable life you live. That government job you have, or you mother has or your brother has is paid for from those taxes. It most every time I hear about some anti-tax nut it turns out they make their living off a government job, military pension, or some part of the social safety net.
lie about trying to "improve education" while doing their best to make sure it is never improved for their voting base
Again, you have no idea what your talking about and are just spitting up the tripe you've been spoon fed. How have they lied about improving education? There is a reason why TEACHERS generally support more liberal candidates. Because they actually do more than propose vouchers (more anti-tax stuff) and closing down the department of education.
<snip rant about people getting social insurance>
and endorse the evisceration of the First Amendment, Second Amendment, and anything else in that pesky "Constitution" thingy that gets in their way?
Your string of assertions without evidence is truly astounding. Please explain how the big bad Democrats have taken away your gun rights and then put that up against the people who kept showing up to town halls last year with automatic rifles hung on their shoulders. Explain to me how its the Democrats who want to force Christianity down our throats, remove the constitutionally mandated citizenship birthright and remove the constitutionally mandated right to elect your representatives. Oh, right. It is the constitution-loving Republicans that want to do that. These are things that have been proposed or publicly supported by Boener and/or McConell among others. Not just fringe groups.
Who voted against the repeal of DADT? Republicans
Also most of the joint chiefs of staff... who are not republicans.
"It is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do". -Admiral Mullen Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff
Defense Sec. Robert Gates want's to get rid of DADT. Even Colon Powell wants to repeal it. And they are definitely Republicans.
Even if that were not the case, it is the military's responsibility to carry out policy, not create it.
Who voted against a more comprehensive anti hate crime law?
I believe the word you really mean is "thoughtcrime law", which many of us of a libertarian bent view as a Bad Thing.
So, I'm confused. You think it's ok to have racially based attacks on people? Or maybe its attacks on gay people that you are ok with?
Who sleeps with the religious right bowing to its will? Republicans.
Funny. Ever seen black preachers in action, poverty-pimping the slaves back to the Democrat for another round of uninformed, uneducated, "voting"?
There is a big difference. The nut-job evangelical minister's ramblings tend to become part of the Republican platform. Please point me to where policy has come from a black preacher.
I'm going to ignore your race-tolling for now, not to mention the ironical reference to being uninformed and uneducated.
Who voted against tax breaks for small businesses 2 weeks ago? Republicans.
What else was in the bill? Oh yeah, another round of TARP-crap that would have been WORTHL
Complaining about having to pay to support the poor? Then help them stop being poor!
Most taxes go to pay the salaries of government employees, who are certainly not poor.
Thats BS, most tax dollars go to finance debt (read bonds, payments go to mostly wealthy people who loaned the gov money), the military and social programs and both your average military personnel and the average social security recipient really need that money.*
Henry Ford knew it - when he was asked why he paid his workers more than the competition, he said "I want them to be able to buy my cars."
No, Ford paid his workers more because he wanted the best employees and he was losing vast amounts of money having to continually train new ones as the experienced employees left for jobs that paid better.
Do you really think that Ferrari pay the guy who bolts the doors on enough to buy a Ferrari?
Again, BS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford Read the section on labor philosophy. He wanted both, to keep the best workers and for them to be able to buy his cars. Not to mention you are comparing apples to oranges. Ferrari are a luxury car company. The door bolt guy probably doesn't get paid enough to buy a Ferrari, but he does get paid enough to buy a Ford.
You may want to look at these articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha_(disambiguation). The term buddha means "enlightened one". In Buddhism, the goal of any soul is to reach enlightenment and become a buddha. What generally happens is that a "saint" or god from a previous religion gets renamed a buddha when the culture converts. It actually gets complicated as you get into the particulars of each version of Buddhism since they all have different cultural variations on what a Buddha is, what their role is and how the ones they call buddhas became that way.
Now there is only one "The Buddha". By which people mean Siddhrtha Gautama. Also, the statues of "Buddha" are often not the buddha you are thinking of. Watch a lot of Chinese or Thai movies and it will become clear that they aren't talking about "The Buddha" when they refer to the statues or their buddhas.
This is completely wrong. Buddhism is a religion but you could claim that it is not a theology. There is a difference. It is a religion because it involves things like souls and the afterlife/reincarnation. It is the combination of a philosophy and a fairy tale, a way of living your life and a fantastical reason why it should be that way. That is pretty much the definition of a religion. Now, in most Asian countries, the "Buddhas" are treated as gods. Why? Well because when they converted to Buddhism they took their old gods and made them enlightened ones (Buddhas). The same way that old African gods became saints in places where Christianity took over. The same story is repeated every place one religion comes to supplant another. In traditional (Indian) Buddhism, this is not the case, they accepted the old Hindu stories as useful parables but mostly moved on from their old beliefs.
The problem with this free market fantasy is that its not actually reflective of what reality nor does it come up with an ideal productivity.
Lets take the 100k/day guy. He makes 3.65 million a year. He's only going to buy 1 yacht with that because he only needs one at a time. Maybe that costs 1M, the rest goes in the bank or into derivatives trading or currency trading or into his bath tub so he can bathe in it. This is all financial masturbation, it doesn't really produce anything. So saying that making that much money ends up circulating it a fallacy because it only ends up circulating amongst the other financial types and not the economy as a whole.
"But he did end up paying for the boat" you say, "he employed all those people". OK, but lets compare that to what would happen otherwise. Making the yacht gives a few artisans a fairly decent amount of income once in a year. If you take that 3 million and give it to 10k poor or middle class people (in the form of salary for actual work done), they will spend *all* of it. Why? Because they are not flush with cash and have lots of things they could buy including things they have been needing but have been putting off buying because they didn't have the cash. So you have circulated a lot more money to a lot more people, and since the money is going into buying things that are useful to more people (as opposed to yachts) the business that flourish are the ones that actually mean something to society and the economy. And you get bonus points for actually making more stuff that has more value.
Those people making all the goods also end up buying things to make the goods, so there is a multiplier effect happening. Now you have can compare a smaller base ($1M vs $3.65M) and a smaller multiplier (yachts need wood, paint, canvas and a small number of other parts vs the wide variety of other things that people would buy with the money such as cars, TVs mobile phones, college text books, groceries etc which are lower margin items that require a lot more investment into their production ) and you end up contributing a LOT less to the GDP as Mr. $3.65M than you do if that money was more evenly distributed.
Not to mention the fact that there is no way that guy deserves to get 100 times the pay. He's not 100 X smarter nor is he 100 X more hard working. Given the recent financial troubles it is rather easy to argue for the reverse. So now you are rewarding the wrong person a disproportionate amount in a way that hurts the economy relative to doing it the right way.
Congrats.
People really ought to stop thinking that they are going to become rich one day. It skews their perception of whats happening in the real world and makes applaud the people who are taking advantage of them.
You are 100% wrong about this, I have no idea who moderated you insightful. The GPL is EXACTLY about this. Its says "when I give you a copy of this software, it is completely YOURS. But you must pass the privilege on." This is why you get rights to a copy of the source when you get a GPLed binary. This is not true of proprietary software, and that may be where you are confused.
You fail to understand what the GPL is really about. Yes the BSD license is more free, but GPL is about the distributor not being allowed to lord over those they distribute to, that is the particular freedom they are trying to promote. GPL says that "once I give it to you, it is yours to do with what you will, provided you give the same right to those you distribute to." Closed source says "once I give it to you, it is still mine." DRM says the same thing. To understand why the GPL is important you have to think of it on those terms. BSD only goes part way, because they don't propagate the freedom to end recipients. It is more free but it is less interesting and important because of it.
GPL is important and useful because it promotes social justice and fairness. BSD fails to do this.
DRM is completely anathema to the spirit of the GPL and is actively harmful to it. What use is the source if the data is locked away with DRM? If you don't own the data then owning the software is of little use. The fact that the GPL is going in a anti-DRM direction is a Good Thing.
What you shouldn't do is to give out your password on the phone when someone calls you...But if you call them, you know who they are. Who cares if you give out your password over the phone.
Not trying to argue the point really, but MS singled out the GPL. You can't build your software on top of GPL'd code and then sell it as a proprietary product. Clause of the GPL expressly forbids this.
Two words: Dynamic Linking.
You can USE GPLed software all day as infrastructure and not have to GPL your own so long as you dont combine your code with theirs (read insert source or statically link). You can build modules and whatnot that go into GLPed projects. You can do many things with GPLed software as long as you dont co-opt it and still keep your source proprietary(not that I would).
What I don't quite get is the number of people who insist that the GPL is compatible with building software for a profit. It is incompatible - you must sell services or hardware or something other than the GPL'd software to make money.
The GPL in no way keeps you from making money. It says if you want your code intermingled with mine you have to let me see yours. AND THEN YOU CAN EVEN SELL THE BINARIES! You get patches, R&D and sales research done free thus saving you money. Nothing about the GPL keeps you from making money with your proprietary software if you are just going to use it.
So unfortunately, in a limited sense, MS is right. The GPL is incompatible with selling software as a stand alone product. I doubt if anyone can seriously refute that statement, but I would be very interested if someone could.
No they aren't. They just have limited(by choice?) imaginations. And hope all CIOs/CTOs do too.
Perhaps RedHat and others can have this as a value added service. Customers can sign up and every month RedHat will scan them and fix their security problems or email what patches need to be applied?
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Nevermind, I didn't notice the '...' business.
Let a = 0.999... then we can multiply both sides by ten yielding 10a = 9.999... then subtracting a (which is 0.999...) from both sides we get 10a — a = 9.999... — 0.999... which reduces to 9a = 9 and thus a = 1. Mathematicians as far back as Euler have used various means to prove 0.999... = 1
OK, this is just dumb. In what world is .999 * 10 = 9.999? .999 * 10 is 9.99. What is going on here is that hes adding another .009 to one side of the equation, invalidating it.
I'm sorry, what? In what conceivable way are you kept in slavery?
What, precisely, would you call a class of people who are denied a real education, stuffed into ghettos and barrios, and forced into lives full of working dead-end jobs or languishing on public assistance in "exchange" for the guarantee that they will vote for the political party that the slave-masters tell them to vote for?
First of all, you are simply asserting that taxes cause these problems without offering any proof. Secondly, there is no reason to believe that taxes are the cause of any of these problems. It is far more plausible that rising income inequality is the cause by denying the poor a large enough share of wealth to get out of their situation. A cause more easily solved by a more progressive tax system that actually addresses that problem rather than a no-tax system that helps no one with anything. You have also completely left out both an alternate way of getting police etc other than taxes nor can you point out a tax-less government, or a government of any kind, that does not have a poverty issue. In fact, governments with more progressive tax systems tend to have higher quality of living standards.
How have they lied about improving education?
Despite all the money put into education over the years, has even one Democrat program done anything but spend more money with no repeatable results on any appreciable scale? NO. Even the "stellar magnet schools" and "stellar charter schools" work well for about 5 years before sliding back down into the toilet.
Yet, you have completely failed to demonstrate how anyone lied about anything. You just say "schools suck". The biggest relationship to school suckage is how much which tends to vary with the amount of wealth in the school district. Please point me to some statistics on how much more money schools are getting per capita in real dollars between now and 50 years ago. Not to mention that you have given no alternative whatsoever.
So, I'm confused. You think it's ok to have racially based attacks on people? Or maybe its attacks on gay people that you are ok with?
I don't agree that attacks on anyone are a good idea. But neither do I believe that the punishment should be any different whether you attacked someone because of their skin color, or their sexual preference, or the fact that they were your competition in a drug gang, or because they slept with your wife, or because you wanted to steal their car, or any other reason someone would have to do violence to another human being.
It's the ACT that is to be punished, not the thought. When we start regulating thought, we slide into a very, very, very bad place.
The ACT IS what is being punished. You do not go to jail for thinking or even talking about what would be a hate crime. Only when you actually commit a physical crime do you get jailed and punished. You don't seem to have any idea what thought crime is. By your logic we should not give harsher sentencing to premeditated murder than we do to a "crime of passion" since the only difference is the thought that goes into it.
Bush and Reagan have been the biggest contributors to the national debt.
Bush and Reagan's major debt contributions come from times when DEMOCRATS HELD THE CONGRESS. Remember, you idiot, it is the CONGRESS that makes the budget and controls the purse strings - all the President gets is an up-or-down, veto/pass vote.
I'm moving this here so I don't have to repeat myself.
Under Reagan, through Bush, and - here's the important part - THROUGH THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF CLINTON WHEN THE DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED CONGRESS - the debt went up. Only when the Republicans took control of the purse strings did that trend reverse.
You are just plain wrong. The '92 deficit (Bush) was $399B, the '93 defi
You got that one wrong, you meant to write Republicans (homophobic, racist, anti-middle class...).
As opposed to Democrats, who keep people in what is basically slavery
I'm sorry, what? In what conceivable way are you kept in slavery? One of the dumbest things I have ever heard is the assertion that taxes are tantamount to slavery or tyranny. Taxes are the price you pay to live in a society. They pay for police, firefighters, roads a military an innumerable number of things that allow you to live the comfortable life you live. That government job you have, or you mother has or your brother has is paid for from those taxes. It most every time I hear about some anti-tax nut it turns out they make their living off a government job, military pension, or some part of the social safety net.
lie about trying to "improve education" while doing their best to make sure it is never improved for their voting base
Again, you have no idea what your talking about and are just spitting up the tripe you've been spoon fed. How have they lied about improving education? There is a reason why TEACHERS generally support more liberal candidates. Because they actually do more than propose vouchers (more anti-tax stuff) and closing down the department of education.
<snip rant about people getting social insurance>
and endorse the evisceration of the First Amendment, Second Amendment, and anything else in that pesky "Constitution" thingy that gets in their way?
Your string of assertions without evidence is truly astounding. Please explain how the big bad Democrats have taken away your gun rights and then put that up against the people who kept showing up to town halls last year with automatic rifles hung on their shoulders. Explain to me how its the Democrats who want to force Christianity down our throats, remove the constitutionally mandated citizenship birthright and remove the constitutionally mandated right to elect your representatives. Oh, right. It is the constitution-loving Republicans that want to do that. These are things that have been proposed or publicly supported by Boener and/or McConell among others. Not just fringe groups.
Who voted against the repeal of DADT? Republicans
Also most of the joint chiefs of staff... who are not republicans.
"It is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do". -Admiral Mullen Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff
Defense Sec. Robert Gates want's to get rid of DADT. Even Colon Powell wants to repeal it. And they are definitely Republicans.
Even if that were not the case, it is the military's responsibility to carry out policy, not create it.
Who voted against a more comprehensive anti hate crime law?
I believe the word you really mean is "thoughtcrime law", which many of us of a libertarian bent view as a Bad Thing.
So, I'm confused. You think it's ok to have racially based attacks on people? Or maybe its attacks on gay people that you are ok with?
Who sleeps with the religious right bowing to its will? Republicans.
Funny. Ever seen black preachers in action, poverty-pimping the slaves back to the Democrat for another round of uninformed, uneducated, "voting"?
There is a big difference. The nut-job evangelical minister's ramblings tend to become part of the Republican platform. Please point me to where policy has come from a black preacher. I'm going to ignore your race-tolling for now, not to mention the ironical reference to being uninformed and uneducated.
Who voted against tax breaks for small businesses 2 weeks ago? Republicans.
What else was in the bill? Oh yeah, another round of TARP-crap that would have been WORTHL
Complaining about having to pay to support the poor? Then help them stop being poor!
Most taxes go to pay the salaries of government employees, who are certainly not poor.
Thats BS, most tax dollars go to finance debt (read bonds, payments go to mostly wealthy people who loaned the gov money), the military and social programs and both your average military personnel and the average social security recipient really need that money.*
Henry Ford knew it - when he was asked why he paid his workers more than the competition, he said "I want them to be able to buy my cars."
No, Ford paid his workers more because he wanted the best employees and he was losing vast amounts of money having to continually train new ones as the experienced employees left for jobs that paid better.
Do you really think that Ferrari pay the guy who bolts the doors on enough to buy a Ferrari?
Again, BS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford Read the section on labor philosophy. He wanted both, to keep the best workers and for them to be able to buy his cars. Not to mention you are comparing apples to oranges. Ferrari are a luxury car company. The door bolt guy probably doesn't get paid enough to buy a Ferrari, but he does get paid enough to buy a Ford.
* Not necessarily in that order
You may want to look at these articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha_(disambiguation). The term buddha means "enlightened one". In Buddhism, the goal of any soul is to reach enlightenment and become a buddha. What generally happens is that a "saint" or god from a previous religion gets renamed a buddha when the culture converts. It actually gets complicated as you get into the particulars of each version of Buddhism since they all have different cultural variations on what a Buddha is, what their role is and how the ones they call buddhas became that way.
Now there is only one "The Buddha". By which people mean Siddhrtha Gautama. Also, the statues of "Buddha" are often not the buddha you are thinking of. Watch a lot of Chinese or Thai movies and it will become clear that they aren't talking about "The Buddha" when they refer to the statues or their buddhas.
HTH.
This is completely wrong. Buddhism is a religion but you could claim that it is not a theology. There is a difference. It is a religion because it involves things like souls and the afterlife/reincarnation. It is the combination of a philosophy and a fairy tale, a way of living your life and a fantastical reason why it should be that way. That is pretty much the definition of a religion. Now, in most Asian countries, the "Buddhas" are treated as gods. Why? Well because when they converted to Buddhism they took their old gods and made them enlightened ones (Buddhas). The same way that old African gods became saints in places where Christianity took over. The same story is repeated every place one religion comes to supplant another. In traditional (Indian) Buddhism, this is not the case, they accepted the old Hindu stories as useful parables but mostly moved on from their old beliefs.
The problem with this free market fantasy is that its not actually reflective of what reality nor does it come up with an ideal productivity.
Lets take the 100k/day guy. He makes 3.65 million a year. He's only going to buy 1 yacht with that because he only needs one at a time. Maybe that costs 1M, the rest goes in the bank or into derivatives trading or currency trading or into his bath tub so he can bathe in it. This is all financial masturbation, it doesn't really produce anything. So saying that making that much money ends up circulating it a fallacy because it only ends up circulating amongst the other financial types and not the economy as a whole.
"But he did end up paying for the boat" you say, "he employed all those people". OK, but lets compare that to what would happen otherwise. Making the yacht gives a few artisans a fairly decent amount of income once in a year. If you take that 3 million and give it to 10k poor or middle class people (in the form of salary for actual work done), they will spend *all* of it. Why? Because they are not flush with cash and have lots of things they could buy including things they have been needing but have been putting off buying because they didn't have the cash. So you have circulated a lot more money to a lot more people, and since the money is going into buying things that are useful to more people (as opposed to yachts) the business that flourish are the ones that actually mean something to society and the economy. And you get bonus points for actually making more stuff that has more value.
Those people making all the goods also end up buying things to make the goods, so there is a multiplier effect happening. Now you have can compare a smaller base ($1M vs $3.65M) and a smaller multiplier (yachts need wood, paint, canvas and a small number of other parts vs the wide variety of other things that people would buy with the money such as cars, TVs mobile phones, college text books, groceries etc which are lower margin items that require a lot more investment into their production ) and you end up contributing a LOT less to the GDP as Mr. $3.65M than you do if that money was more evenly distributed.
Not to mention the fact that there is no way that guy deserves to get 100 times the pay. He's not 100 X smarter nor is he 100 X more hard working. Given the recent financial troubles it is rather easy to argue for the reverse. So now you are rewarding the wrong person a disproportionate amount in a way that hurts the economy relative to doing it the right way.
Congrats.
People really ought to stop thinking that they are going to become rich one day. It skews their perception of whats happening in the real world and makes applaud the people who are taking advantage of them.
You are 100% wrong about this, I have no idea who moderated you insightful. The GPL is EXACTLY about this. Its says "when I give you a copy of this software, it is completely YOURS. But you must pass the privilege on." This is why you get rights to a copy of the source when you get a GPLed binary. This is not true of proprietary software, and that may be where you are confused.
You fail to understand what the GPL is really about. Yes the BSD license is more free, but GPL is about the distributor not being allowed to lord over those they distribute to, that is the particular freedom they are trying to promote. GPL says that "once I give it to you, it is yours to do with what you will, provided you give the same right to those you distribute to." Closed source says "once I give it to you, it is still mine." DRM says the same thing. To understand why the GPL is important you have to think of it on those terms. BSD only goes part way, because they don't propagate the freedom to end recipients. It is more free but it is less interesting and important because of it.
GPL is important and useful because it promotes social justice and fairness. BSD fails to do this.
DRM is completely anathema to the spirit of the GPL and is actively harmful to it. What use is the source if the data is locked away with DRM? If you don't own the data then owning the software is of little use. The fact that the GPL is going in a anti-DRM direction is a Good Thing.
What you shouldn't do is to give out your password on the phone when someone calls you...But if you call them, you know who they are. Who cares if you give out your password over the phone.
You have never read BOFH have you?
All time favorite sig:
Hello, my pid is Inego Montoya, You kill -9 my parent process, prepare to vi!
Not trying to argue the point really, but MS singled out the GPL. You can't build your software on top of GPL'd code and then sell it as a proprietary product. Clause of the GPL expressly forbids this.
Two words: Dynamic Linking.
You can USE GPLed software all day as infrastructure and not have to GPL your own so long as you dont combine your code with theirs (read insert source or statically link). You can build modules and whatnot that go into GLPed projects. You can do many things with GPLed software as long as you dont co-opt it and still keep your source proprietary(not that I would).
What I don't quite get is the number of people who insist that the GPL is compatible with building software for a profit. It is incompatible - you must sell services or hardware or something other than the GPL'd software to make money.
The GPL in no way keeps you from making money. It says if you want your code intermingled with mine you have to let me see yours. AND THEN YOU CAN EVEN SELL THE BINARIES! You get patches, R&D and sales research done free thus saving you money. Nothing about the GPL keeps you from making money with your proprietary software if you are just going to use it.
So unfortunately, in a limited sense, MS is right. The GPL is incompatible with selling software as a stand alone product. I doubt if anyone can seriously refute that statement, but I would be very interested if someone could.
No they aren't. They just have limited(by choice?) imaginations. And hope all CIOs/CTOs do too.
Perhaps RedHat and others can have this as a value added service. Customers can sign up and every month RedHat will scan them and fix their security problems or email what patches need to be applied?