I think what a better expression is that they are calculatable. Meaning, their might be a pattern but we may not be able to discover it in decimal because it doesn't exist their. ----
It's good enough for most programs, it's not good enough for me. I need to know PI out to 1.2 * 10^-9999999999999 digit exactly because I have this new super tool that can take measurement out to 1.2*10^-9999999999999 decimals places and is based on PI. I don't want to lose those extra decimal points. ----
Binary rules the digitial world. Try binary multiplication and see how much easier it is then decimal. 1101110110001100001111111*10110=100110000101000001 101011101010 or (638851818)base 10 or 0x26141AEA. It takes almost no time to convert a binary number to decimal. ----
The number PI never has a repeating decimal in the decimal system(their are actual mathematical system where pi does not have a repeating decimal but that's another story.) The number PI is not random. It is just a constant. A number that can easily be calculated in decimal with reasonable accuracy. Because we can calculate it, it is not random. If a number has decimals that are just their without reason, it is random. This is not the case. ----
Huge money loss is kind of a big word. Seriously. How many people would prefer to wait six months after the video release for something like Jurassic Park 3(which was a great movie) so they can buy a two dollar tape and record it off of HBO or if they want to spend 2.95, off of Pay-per-view and have to write your own labels that 2 years later, no one will be able to read. If it is a shitty movie that they are going to watch ortwice, this may be a good option and I used to do it all the time. If it is a great movie, I usually do this and later buy the VHS(don't have a DVD player yet but still looking) because it is the "good" version that I'll be able to keep for years. Same thing with music. People have to physically download the MP3s, burn them to CD, and write good labels on them so they can find them later. This takes work. It is easier to buy the CD. They hear shitty music in an MP3 format, they aren't going out and buying it. If they hear good music, they are more likely to buy it. I agree with you that the company is making less money because of this which causes them to jack up the prices to make more money which concurrently causes more copies to be pirated and cycles continue... but it's not as bad as it sounds. It only takes away a small percentage of actual sales. ----
They can log your IP address all they want but if they don't know the file is "Ripped_Matrix_From_DVD_To_Divx.avi" they still can't get you. If it's a private network, they can't do anything from you if you live in the US because IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE INFORMATION IN COURT THAT YOU GAINED ILLEGALLY, like using a packet sniffer to watch IP addresses. If you use private networks only then the only way they can get you if the government gets a warrant and forces the IP to give them your DHCP address(considering that the IP actually logs it(most do)) which requires effort and money. So, this is limited to the number of cases you can have. If their are only one or two people doing it, this is no problem. If their one or two million people doing it, big problem. Are you going to get warrants against a million people to get their IP address at the time of download and sue every single one of them. I think not. Even if you get one or two, you are not going to get the bulk of them. Encrypted files are harder to prove in court because you have to know exactly how to decrypt it and then you have to get a log of IP addresses and then you have trace who is who on the DHCP network by getting a warrant against their ISP and then you have to get a warrant against the actual person to search their actual computer and then you have to take them to court and prove that they were the person on the machine at the time that the crime was committed and then(after spending $100,000), the plaintiff will probably get maximum of 5 years. Is it worth it? No. Why do you think individuals have never been sued, genius? Why do you think they go for the big companies like napster? One person to sue, not a million. Encryption makes it even harder. If the government or the media companies actually wanted to, they could get a few individuals but they certainly won't get very many. So, my point is valid. Encryption decreases likelihood in an already unlikely world. ----
I agree. Look at the VCR. Look at how much the movie industry complained when it came out compared with the number of the complaints now. It's not different. If it is really good, most people are going to go out and buy it anyways because they want the "good" version, not just some cheap copy recorded off of HBO or the radio or recorded from a cassette, converted to an MP3 and burned to a CD. This is actually helping the media industry. People get to try before they buy(encouraging growth) without having to go to the store and put on those stupid earphones. They can more easily filter out fluff products and get the ones they actually want. ----
Why wouldn't encryption work. If it is combined with data hiding... via, don't call the file metallica's hit song XXX.mp3, call it 12356823123593.jpg and the only way people can know the real contents is to download the first 512 bytes and decrypt it. This way, plain names don't go out on the internet, 512 bytes does not take a whole lot of time to download or decrypt and it will be only in your memory. If it is good encryption, the feds are going to have a hard time decrypting it and must also have a good reason to try to decrypt it. ----
of the ISPs that are trying to prevent us from downloading MP3s and Divx movies so we can prevent ourselves, our friends, and our family from using these. Power to the people. ----
It's not the like the rest of the world ever follows the United States anyways. They come up with these little standards agreed upon by several nations that are completely incompatible with the US. Look at Electricity standards or cable TV or systems of measurements. What has stopped the world before from them doing their own thing while the US does theirs. Nothing. I don't see that changing anytime soon. ----
And the best part is your tax dollars pay for the whole process. And do you know where the tax dollars go, back to the people in the form of jobs, welfare, pensions, etc. In the end, most everybody is better off.
I'm not a person to talk about big government(hate it) but you can either two things in this situation, not do anything or regulate it. Not doing anything lets the market settle itself while regulating forces larger government and benefits the elite. People do what is in their best interest and if their best interest calls for regulation, so be it. If it doesn't well, they'll tell the government where to shove it. It's wonderful, isn't it? ----
If they get a centralized worker they'll probably have like 20 or more Fiber Optic cables and a bunch of routers that reroute traffic to their needed locations and be ran by some billion dollar backbone like IBM. I don't think bandwidth is going to be a problem where the open target system has the problem of being only as fast as the slowest connection. This will save a little bit on that problem. I still think open networks are better because it puts individuals at a disadvange and might not be good for gaming because local routers with traffic in a generalized area is better at redirecting then asking a giant server half-way across the country where my buddy next door is. If it is world global gaming, you want as few stops as possible along the way and a centralized server is better.
On a side note: I hate that two minute warning. When I'm really in a hurry, I can type several lines in less then a minute and really don't want to wait to submit. It's a pain. ----
Maybe they would be profitable. From personal experience, why would I stay at one site when I can go to pricewatch.com and find the exact same product on another site for two bucks cheaper. Give me a reason. The entire idea is based on Consumers Compulsion to buy something so their are going to be fewer sales without a salesman convincing you that you REALLY REALLY need this. Third, their is the time factor. I ordered a package a few weeks ago on the internet and 18 days later, it arrived on my door step. Thirteen were lost during shipping and it took them five days to ship the product. This is a time barrier. I want the product now but I want it at your cheaper price. Shipping is another problem. The WV sales tax is 6%. If I bought an $100 product, it would normally cost me $106. The fact is, I probably pay more then 11.95 on the internet plus the money doesn't go back into my state to be recirculated. It's kind of a lose lose situation. Pay more and get less return. Business wise, they are suffering from Super competition where the only way they can stay in business because it is hard to build is loyal set of customers is to actualy sell your products below retail in order to try to get a few loyal customers so they can raise the price.
They need to try to get past these barriers before trying to restructuring the internet or maybe both at the same time. Restructuring is probably not going to increase profitability significantly. Fixing the said above might. ----
You are probably be right. It would be more cost effective. Unfortunately, it is also hard to remove a structure that has matured so much. The questionis, who would run it and would it take powers from individuals. Having a centralized network is always nice because if you can connect to it, you can connect practically to anybody who can also connect to it. The problem with that theory is if the Centralized network goes down, bye bye internet. From a business point, I could see it. Having everybody more likely to be able to connect to almost everybody at any given time. The problem is, it doesn't do anything to encourage private networks who want to keep their data within a grasp of a selected few scattered around the world. Still possible but harder. ----
If it's a business, they probably have a dedicated t1/t3 line. What they mean is, what if something more then you can handle goes down like somebody cuts a fiber optic cable in the middle of nowhere. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Anyways, since the internet is uncontrolled, their isn't anyone person to call if the internet suddenly crashes. You have to go through the infrastructure and find who owns what and actually get them to spend money to repair it. It is not a big problem because most people handle their own. They have a valid question and their really isn't a good answer. ----
Most things used initially by the government eventually get integrated into the consumer market. Look at the technology has produced that are common household products(tang for instance or different ceramics.) Sure, the government may get their first hands on it then rich civilials followed by upper-middle class then middle-class and then lower-middle class and everybody will buy junkers that were driven by people old enough to be their grandparents when they were brand-new. Most good technologies eventually end up in the consumer market, just not immediately. ----
I might be able to get to the Mall in 10 minutes instead of 50. Big improvement. Now if I could only put two giant lasers on the front of my car and when the pr*ck in front of me is going 350 when the speed limit is 400, I could... ----
Actually, customability is a word. Like the work Manufacturability. The ability for something to be manufactured. Customability: the ability for something to be customizable. Also, I would go with 80Gb instead of the 40. Not much more in price and double the space. You'll thank yourself later(unless the 80gb is slower then the 40) ----
Their is actually a theory in CS which in most cases(not always, of course) you can sacrifice CPU cycles to save memory and you can save CPU cycles by sacrificing memory. I'm sure if the code was cleaned, you could get that 768 Megs down to 256 if they tried. But that wouldn't be any fun, would it consider you can buy 256 Megs right at less then 20 bucks. ----
They've had that technology for years. The only reason it is not in common use is because it is more expensive(and thus out of the question for the consumer.) Static Ram(not all static remains after the power is shut off, MRAM does(Magneto-resistive Random Access Memory) is Much Much faster than Dynamic RAM(always gone after power shuts off given enough time) but the price is through the roof. As computers get really fast and different forms of static ram emerges and the price drops, more people will buy it. ----
You could probably include two power buttons. One that turns off the power without clearing memory and the other that clears memory and then turns off the power. Or you could simply put a jumper switch on the Mobo(or on the back of the computer) that gives the options of (not)clearing the memory when it starts up. I'm sure they would think of something. ----
Of course. The Mac is a limited market. If it is such a good technology as they claim, they'll want to expand their market in order to make more money and maybe help pull us out of the rut in the US economy. If the technology isn't as good as they say or cheaper alternatives that work comparably as well then the technology will probably stay on the Macintosh. ----
I played two sports in highschool and was a nerd at the same time. Although I'm not into sports now, some are going to join the second. When you not suffering from a concussion(only happened once;) they actually help people think a little better(stimulate bloodflow?) Anyways, my point is, some are going to join sports, even if it is for a lack lf something better to do. Gamers are certainly less likely to join, certainly true, but certainly shouldn't be discluded. ----
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I think what a better expression is that they are calculatable. Meaning, their might be a pattern but we may not be able to discover it in decimal because it doesn't exist their.
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It's good enough for most programs, it's not good enough for me. I need to know PI out to 1.2 * 10^-9999999999999 digit exactly because I have this new super tool that can take measurement out to 1.2*10^-9999999999999 decimals places and is based on PI. I don't want to lose those extra decimal points.
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Binary rules the digitial world. Try binary multiplication and see how much easier it is then decimal. 1101110110001100001111111*10110=100110000101000001 101011101010 or (638851818)base 10 or 0x26141AEA. It takes almost no time to convert a binary number to decimal.
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The number PI never has a repeating decimal in the decimal system(their are actual mathematical system where pi does not have a repeating decimal but that's another story.) The number PI is not random. It is just a constant. A number that can easily be calculated in decimal with reasonable accuracy. Because we can calculate it, it is not random. If a number has decimals that are just their without reason, it is random. This is not the case.
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Huge money loss is kind of a big word. Seriously. How many people would prefer to wait six months after the video release for something like Jurassic Park 3(which was a great movie) so they can buy a two dollar tape and record it off of HBO or if they want to spend 2.95, off of Pay-per-view and have to write your own labels that 2 years later, no one will be able to read. If it is a shitty movie that they are going to watch ortwice, this may be a good option and I used to do it all the time. If it is a great movie, I usually do this and later buy the VHS(don't have a DVD player yet but still looking) because it is the "good" version that I'll be able to keep for years. Same thing with music. People have to physically download the MP3s, burn them to CD, and write good labels on them so they can find them later. This takes work. It is easier to buy the CD. They hear shitty music in an MP3 format, they aren't going out and buying it. If they hear good music, they are more likely to buy it. I agree with you that the company is making less money because of this which causes them to jack up the prices to make more money which concurrently causes more copies to be pirated and cycles continue ... but it's not as bad as it sounds. It only takes away a small percentage of actual sales.
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They can log your IP address all they want but if they don't know the file is "Ripped_Matrix_From_DVD_To_Divx.avi" they still can't get you. If it's a private network, they can't do anything from you if you live in the US because IT IS ILLEGAL TO USE INFORMATION IN COURT THAT YOU GAINED ILLEGALLY, like using a packet sniffer to watch IP addresses. If you use private networks only then the only way they can get you if the government gets a warrant and forces the IP to give them your DHCP address(considering that the IP actually logs it(most do)) which requires effort and money. So, this is limited to the number of cases you can have. If their are only one or two people doing it, this is no problem. If their one or two million people doing it, big problem. Are you going to get warrants against a million people to get their IP address at the time of download and sue every single one of them. I think not. Even if you get one or two, you are not going to get the bulk of them. Encrypted files are harder to prove in court because you have to know exactly how to decrypt it and then you have to get a log of IP addresses and then you have trace who is who on the DHCP network by getting a warrant against their ISP and then you have to get a warrant against the actual person to search their actual computer and then you have to take them to court and prove that they were the person on the machine at the time that the crime was committed and then(after spending $100,000), the plaintiff will probably get maximum of 5 years. Is it worth it? No. Why do you think individuals have never been sued, genius? Why do you think they go for the big companies like napster? One person to sue, not a million. Encryption makes it even harder. If the government or the media companies actually wanted to, they could get a few individuals but they certainly won't get very many. So, my point is valid. Encryption decreases likelihood in an already unlikely world.
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I agree. Look at the VCR. Look at how much the movie industry complained when it came out compared with the number of the complaints now. It's not different. If it is really good, most people are going to go out and buy it anyways because they want the "good" version, not just some cheap copy recorded off of HBO or the radio or recorded from a cassette, converted to an MP3 and burned to a CD. This is actually helping the media industry. People get to try before they buy(encouraging growth) without having to go to the store and put on those stupid earphones. They can more easily filter out fluff products and get the ones they actually want.
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Why wouldn't encryption work. If it is combined with data hiding ... via, don't call the file metallica's hit song XXX.mp3, call it 12356823123593.jpg and the only way people can know the real contents is to download the first 512 bytes and decrypt it. This way, plain names don't go out on the internet, 512 bytes does not take a whole lot of time to download or decrypt and it will be only in your memory. If it is good encryption, the feds are going to have a hard time decrypting it and must also have a good reason to try to decrypt it.
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of the ISPs that are trying to prevent us from downloading MP3s and Divx movies so we can prevent ourselves, our friends, and our family from using these. Power to the people.
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It's not the like the rest of the world ever follows the United States anyways. They come up with these little standards agreed upon by several nations that are completely incompatible with the US. Look at Electricity standards or cable TV or systems of measurements. What has stopped the world before from them doing their own thing while the US does theirs. Nothing. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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And the best part is your tax dollars pay for the whole process. And do you know where the tax dollars go, back to the people in the form of jobs, welfare, pensions, etc. In the end, most everybody is better off.
I'm not a person to talk about big government(hate it) but you can either two things in this situation, not do anything or regulate it. Not doing anything lets the market settle itself while regulating forces larger government and benefits the elite. People do what is in their best interest and if their best interest calls for regulation, so be it. If it doesn't well, they'll tell the government where to shove it. It's wonderful, isn't it?
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If they get a centralized worker they'll probably have like 20 or more Fiber Optic cables and a bunch of routers that reroute traffic to their needed locations and be ran by some billion dollar backbone like IBM. I don't think bandwidth is going to be a problem where the open target system has the problem of being only as fast as the slowest connection. This will save a little bit on that problem. I still think open networks are better because it puts individuals at a disadvange and might not be good for gaming because local routers with traffic in a generalized area is better at redirecting then asking a giant server half-way across the country where my buddy next door is. If it is world global gaming, you want as few stops as possible along the way and a centralized server is better.
On a side note: I hate that two minute warning. When I'm really in a hurry, I can type several lines in less then a minute and really don't want to wait to submit. It's a pain.
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One: Capitalism
Two: It was invented in the US so the US should largely have the most say.
Three: The internet won't fork because it costs too much to restructure the network. If it does "fork", it will be a "piggie back" internet.
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Maybe they would be profitable. From personal experience, why would I stay at one site when I can go to pricewatch.com and find the exact same product on another site for two bucks cheaper. Give me a reason. The entire idea is based on Consumers Compulsion to buy something so their are going to be fewer sales without a salesman convincing you that you REALLY REALLY need this. Third, their is the time factor. I ordered a package a few weeks ago on the internet and 18 days later, it arrived on my door step. Thirteen were lost during shipping and it took them five days to ship the product. This is a time barrier. I want the product now but I want it at your cheaper price. Shipping is another problem. The WV sales tax is 6%. If I bought an $100 product, it would normally cost me $106. The fact is, I probably pay more then 11.95 on the internet plus the money doesn't go back into my state to be recirculated. It's kind of a lose lose situation. Pay more and get less return. Business wise, they are suffering from Super competition where the only way they can stay in business because it is hard to build is loyal set of customers is to actualy sell your products below retail in order to try to get a few loyal customers so they can raise the price.
They need to try to get past these barriers before trying to restructuring the internet or maybe both at the same time. Restructuring is probably not going to increase profitability significantly. Fixing the said above might.
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You are probably be right. It would be more cost effective. Unfortunately, it is also hard to remove a structure that has matured so much. The questionis, who would run it and would it take powers from individuals. Having a centralized network is always nice because if you can connect to it, you can connect practically to anybody who can also connect to it. The problem with that theory is if the Centralized network goes down, bye bye internet. From a business point, I could see it. Having everybody more likely to be able to connect to almost everybody at any given time. The problem is, it doesn't do anything to encourage private networks who want to keep their data within a grasp of a selected few scattered around the world. Still possible but harder.
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If it's a business, they probably have a dedicated t1/t3 line. What they mean is, what if something more then you can handle goes down like somebody cuts a fiber optic cable in the middle of nowhere. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Anyways, since the internet is uncontrolled, their isn't anyone person to call if the internet suddenly crashes. You have to go through the infrastructure and find who owns what and actually get them to spend money to repair it. It is not a big problem because most people handle their own. They have a valid question and their really isn't a good answer.
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Most things used initially by the government eventually get integrated into the consumer market. Look at the technology has produced that are common household products(tang for instance or different ceramics.) Sure, the government may get their first hands on it then rich civilials followed by upper-middle class then middle-class and then lower-middle class and everybody will buy junkers that were driven by people old enough to be their grandparents when they were brand-new. Most good technologies eventually end up in the consumer market, just not immediately.
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I might be able to get to the Mall in 10 minutes instead of 50. Big improvement. Now if I could only put two giant lasers on the front of my car and when the pr*ck in front of me is going 350 when the speed limit is 400, I could ...
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Actually, customability is a word. Like the work Manufacturability. The ability for something to be manufactured. Customability: the ability for something to be customizable. Also, I would go with 80Gb instead of the 40. Not much more in price and double the space. You'll thank yourself later(unless the 80gb is slower then the 40)
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Their is actually a theory in CS which in most cases(not always, of course) you can sacrifice CPU cycles to save memory and you can save CPU cycles by sacrificing memory. I'm sure if the code was cleaned, you could get that 768 Megs down to 256 if they tried. But that wouldn't be any fun, would it consider you can buy 256 Megs right at less then 20 bucks.
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They've had that technology for years. The only reason it is not in common use is because it is more expensive(and thus out of the question for the consumer.) Static Ram(not all static remains after the power is shut off, MRAM does(Magneto-resistive Random Access Memory) is Much Much faster than Dynamic RAM(always gone after power shuts off given enough time) but the price is through the roof. As computers get really fast and different forms of static ram emerges and the price drops, more people will buy it.
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You could probably include two power buttons. One that turns off the power without clearing memory and the other that clears memory and then turns off the power. Or you could simply put a jumper switch on the Mobo(or on the back of the computer) that gives the options of (not)clearing the memory when it starts up. I'm sure they would think of something.
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Of course. The Mac is a limited market. If it is such a good technology as they claim, they'll want to expand their market in order to make more money and maybe help pull us out of the rut in the US economy. If the technology isn't as good as they say or cheaper alternatives that work comparably as well then the technology will probably stay on the Macintosh.
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I played two sports in highschool and was a nerd at the same time. Although I'm not into sports now, some are going to join the second. When you not suffering from a concussion(only happened once ;) they actually help people think a little better(stimulate bloodflow?) Anyways, my point is, some are going to join sports, even if it is for a lack lf something better to do. Gamers are certainly less likely to join, certainly true, but certainly shouldn't be discluded.
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This is old news. I read about this several weeks ago. Who ever is at the top needs to review these stories more carefully before posting them.
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