... set up their own wireless network. Access requires registering your laptop's MAC address, and you can reach the network from just about every classroom and dorm on campus. They require the MAC address to block out non-Drexel folk, as the campus is in the middle of Philly.
does my regular machine count? thus when i buy a new harddisk i'm paying an add'l $21/gig? or are they only referring to portable things like the iPod, but then waht about laptops?
the article says they started work in 1992, with an original release of 1994. The article also says the problem dates back to the dawn of computer science, leading me to beleive the problem cannot be solved easily. Somehow I think this will backfire on MS, with the 8 year overdue release being their sign they should've backed out years ago.
rtfa. The netscape software is actually connecting out to a server whenever one does a search from the address bar. The server is not the one the user wants to use for a search. why submitter wrote in google is anyone's guess
Companies like Netscape and AOL and now Sun are just now all sueing MS simply because they have lost faith in the Justice Dept to hand down stiff penalties on Microsoft, so companies harmed by Microsoft are now seeking to send down their own penalties (as in most of these lawsuits will end in MS paying off the plaintiff).
MS Outlook 2000 (and presumably, 97 and XP) requires Outlook Express to be installed first (something like some DLLs are required, IIRC). That's right. The full version requires the light version first.
One can leave OE out of the installation of a Win98 box, but then gets forced to install it anyway in order to install Outlook.
How does one get OE? Download and install IE.
Anyone got any other strange/unusual requirements?
solution - program in multiple metrics, like multiple fingers from each hand, both retinas, etc. Granted, someone can still have a freak accident and lose access, but the types of systems that require that type of authentication generally have multiple administrators. But what if they're all out to lunch and something happens to them? Then have someone from off-site in case of such a scenario. Doesnt even have to be an employee of that company, could be a local priest if all you need is a backup metric for someone to use. Chances of something happening to everyone are incredibly small at this point.
yeah, i can agree with that. just keep in mind that the essay was for those types of offenses, and that things get more serious for second offenders. however, things like underage alcohol in the dorms (at Drexel anyway) are punished with not being allowed to check in guests, you're not allowed to be guests at the other dorms. cause damage, get fined for cleanup&repairs.
I'm a former AOLer. The reps need card#'s in situations when someone wants to make a billing plan change or needs their password reset. The user has to read the rep their card num over the phone. I would assume (based on what's happening) the rep has the card number on his screen to verify the match. Obviously, the solution to that is to have the rep type in the card number as it's read to them and have the system say yay or nay.
(Note: before I get flamed for using AOL, 6 years ago it was the *only* ISP in my area that didnt require a long distance phone call)
beleive it or not, an essay is something a lot of colleges require of students who violate certain policies. IMO, it's better than getting kicked out or jailtime if it was something illegal.
Looking back at what i wrote, I made it sound like everyone had to write an essay, when the reality was only those who emailed to the list had to write the essay in order to restore their email service.
the email list had more than 15,000 addresses in it, combined with an email server that (at the time) couldnt handle the load and wound up delivering messages multiple times. When I said that I got 100 messages in a few minutes, it was actually something like 20 unique messages times 5 copies = 100.
in one article i read about this said that white hatters were blaming script kiddies. They said it was very easy for them to get credit card info from AOL's customer service reps and then duplicate what was happening to these people. See Wired article on this topic.
The problem does go back to AOL, but it's not a software problem like many would be quick to accuse. If it was a software glitch, a *lot* more than 100 people would be victimized by this, it would be more in the thousands. The problem taht AOL has is keeping their customer service reps happy enough to not give out customer info.
back when i was a freshman in college someone managed to assemble an email list of all the students/faculty/staff. It was first used by someone outside the school to spam the entire campus, with all the addresses in the To and Cc fields, making the list available to anyone who received it. So someone attempted to sell their Chem Eng books, and you can picture the hell that broke out.
Quickly the list became nothing but people hitting reply-all and saying "knock it off!" and "get me off the list!" Of course, all those emails and addresses in the emails meant trouble for the mail server, causing mail to get delivered multiple times and DOS'ing normal mail.
It got so bad that I had about 100 emails in a five minute span at one point. It took a Dean's sending out an email to an announcements list pointing out school policy on mass mailings to stop it.
Thankfully, everyone from those trying to sell stuff to those saying "quit it!" all had to write a 500-word essay about why what they did was wrong.
I used to work for the military. Some years ago there were acronyms of "DO-PES" and "PEN15". They're old, maybe 10-15 years, and no one seems to know what those stood for, but they certainly generate laughs.
yeah, i agree that the technology of face recognition currently has a high false-positive rate and is easy to circumvent (eg, beard, nosering, glasses, etc). but one thing people seem to be missing is that technology matures and improves over time, meaning that a face recognition system while not perfect today, will move closer to it over the next 10 years or so. By having cities use it today, feedback on it's effectiveness and annoyances will help further it's development.
Yeah, the ACLU does have a job of sticking up for us. It just annoys me when I hear them disapprove of something because it could be used against a murderer or something. To the ACLU's credit, yes, there instances of their effectiveness. I saw something on the History channel last night about a (at the time) secret commitee in Mississippi back during the 50s that would take measures (often illegal measures) to discredit civil rights activists promoting equal rights for African Americans, and also (illegally) stick up for those who assault or kill and prevent them from going to jail, etc. It wasnt until the late 1980s early 90s that some KKK members got convicted because it was the ACLU who got this committe's records opened to the public, which led to the discovery of jury tampering in a lot of cases.
I'll attest to that. I'm from NJ and in college in PA. I've seen many using forged NJ licenses. One person even went to a NJ DMV claiming to be a friend who had lost his license. All he needed was his friend's mother's maiden name and $5 and he got a photo license in his friend's name. In PA, one just has to call the DMV and they mail you a new one, using a photo stored in a DB from your previous visit.
When I turned 21, my original license expired. DMVs sends people a renewal form about 2 months before expiration, you fill out and send back with a check for the fees, and they send you a non-photo license. Well, I figured I could hang on to the previous license and use the two in conjunction at the liquor store, etc, especially since I was on an internship in MD and couldnt get up to NJ during business hours to get a photo license. Some would take it, others wouldnt, including some that would on some occasions, but not others. Even though the two cards had the same DL numbers on them, same physical info (eyes, height, etc), address, they wouldnt take them.
Now hat I have a photo license, I still have problems on occasion. Every now and then someone will point to the "DUP" marking on it (it means duplicate). They make me see a credit card or my school ID (which used to be faded and tough to make out my face, but I've since gotten a new one).
Now that I've ranted about NJ's problems, it's plainly easy to see how NJ can stop being targeted for fake IDs and stop all the annoyances for the real 21 year olds by simply adopting a PA or MD style system.
I'm curious, what types of things are you instructed to be suspicious about with NJ licenses?
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... set up their own wireless network. Access requires registering your laptop's MAC address, and you can reach the network from just about every classroom and dorm on campus. They require the MAC address to block out non-Drexel folk, as the campus is in the middle of Philly.
they just missed their chance to put it on the hubble. the astronauts returned from there just a couple days ago.
does my regular machine count? thus when i buy a new harddisk i'm paying an add'l $21/gig? or are they only referring to portable things like the iPod, but then waht about laptops?
the article says they started work in 1992, with an original release of 1994. The article also says the problem dates back to the dawn of computer science, leading me to beleive the problem cannot be solved easily. Somehow I think this will backfire on MS, with the 8 year overdue release being their sign they should've backed out years ago.
ya know, i never thought of it that way. that's a very good analogy.
rtfa. The netscape software is actually connecting out to a server whenever one does a search from the address bar. The server is not the one the user wants to use for a search. why submitter wrote in google is anyone's guess
Companies like Netscape and AOL and now Sun are just now all sueing MS simply because they have lost faith in the Justice Dept to hand down stiff penalties on Microsoft, so companies harmed by Microsoft are now seeking to send down their own penalties (as in most of these lawsuits will end in MS paying off the plaintiff).
another odd depency---
MS Outlook 2000 (and presumably, 97 and XP) requires Outlook Express to be installed first (something like some DLLs are required, IIRC). That's right. The full version requires the light version first.
One can leave OE out of the installation of a Win98 box, but then gets forced to install it anyway in order to install Outlook.
How does one get OE? Download and install IE.
Anyone got any other strange/unusual requirements?
but Allchin is a VP of the company. IMO, any high ranking executive speaks for his company when they speak to the press or otherwise speak in public.
dont forget Simpson's Road Rage doesnt mean i dont go the wrong way on one way streets or knock over lampposts to/from work.
solution - program in multiple metrics, like multiple fingers from each hand, both retinas, etc. Granted, someone can still have a freak accident and lose access, but the types of systems that require that type of authentication generally have multiple administrators. But what if they're all out to lunch and something happens to them? Then have someone from off-site in case of such a scenario. Doesnt even have to be an employee of that company, could be a local priest if all you need is a backup metric for someone to use. Chances of something happening to everyone are incredibly small at this point.
how quickly we forget.... http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/03/14 35201
yeah, i can agree with that. just keep in mind that the essay was for those types of offenses, and that things get more serious for second offenders. however, things like underage alcohol in the dorms (at Drexel anyway) are punished with not being allowed to check in guests, you're not allowed to be guests at the other dorms. cause damage, get fined for cleanup&repairs.
yeah, like that would ever work in the real world. ever hear of "unreasonable punishment?"
I'm a former AOLer. The reps need card#'s in situations when someone wants to make a billing plan change or needs their password reset. The user has to read the rep their card num over the phone. I would assume (based on what's happening) the rep has the card number on his screen to verify the match. Obviously, the solution to that is to have the rep type in the card number as it's read to them and have the system say yay or nay.
(Note: before I get flamed for using AOL, 6 years ago it was the *only* ISP in my area that didnt require a long distance phone call)
beleive it or not, an essay is something a lot of colleges require of students who violate certain policies. IMO, it's better than getting kicked out or jailtime if it was something illegal.
Looking back at what i wrote, I made it sound like everyone had to write an essay, when the reality was only those who emailed to the list had to write the essay in order to restore their email service.
the email list had more than 15,000 addresses in it, combined with an email server that (at the time) couldnt handle the load and wound up delivering messages multiple times. When I said that I got 100 messages in a few minutes, it was actually something like 20 unique messages times 5 copies = 100.
in one article i read about this said that white hatters were blaming script kiddies. They said it was very easy for them to get credit card info from AOL's customer service reps and then duplicate what was happening to these people. See Wired article on this topic.
The problem does go back to AOL, but it's not a software problem like many would be quick to accuse. If it was a software glitch, a *lot* more than 100 people would be victimized by this, it would be more in the thousands. The problem taht AOL has is keeping their customer service reps happy enough to not give out customer info.
actually, at most schools punishment for first offenders is an essay for minor offenses. yes, it's childish, but somehow it works.
back when i was a freshman in college someone managed to assemble an email list of all the students/faculty/staff. It was first used by someone outside the school to spam the entire campus, with all the addresses in the To and Cc fields, making the list available to anyone who received it. So someone attempted to sell their Chem Eng books, and you can picture the hell that broke out.
Quickly the list became nothing but people hitting reply-all and saying "knock it off!" and "get me off the list!" Of course, all those emails and addresses in the emails meant trouble for the mail server, causing mail to get delivered multiple times and DOS'ing normal mail.
It got so bad that I had about 100 emails in a five minute span at one point. It took a Dean's sending out an email to an announcements list pointing out school policy on mass mailings to stop it.
Thankfully, everyone from those trying to sell stuff to those saying "quit it!" all had to write a 500-word essay about why what they did was wrong.
i just took the survey. There werent any law questions on there.
I'm in my school's band. Thank god Drexel dont have a football team (and hence a marching band)
Drexel University Marching Band.
Unfortunately, DUMB already exists at some other schools, like Duke or Duquense.
I used to work for the military. Some years ago there were acronyms of "DO-PES" and "PEN15". They're old, maybe 10-15 years, and no one seems to know what those stood for, but they certainly generate laughs.
yeah, i agree that the technology of face recognition currently has a high false-positive rate and is easy to circumvent (eg, beard, nosering, glasses, etc). but one thing people seem to be missing is that technology matures and improves over time, meaning that a face recognition system while not perfect today, will move closer to it over the next 10 years or so. By having cities use it today, feedback on it's effectiveness and annoyances will help further it's development.
Yeah, the ACLU does have a job of sticking up for us. It just annoys me when I hear them disapprove of something because it could be used against a murderer or something. To the ACLU's credit, yes, there instances of their effectiveness. I saw something on the History channel last night about a (at the time) secret commitee in Mississippi back during the 50s that would take measures (often illegal measures) to discredit civil rights activists promoting equal rights for African Americans, and also (illegally) stick up for those who assault or kill and prevent them from going to jail, etc. It wasnt until the late 1980s early 90s that some KKK members got convicted because it was the ACLU who got this committe's records opened to the public, which led to the discovery of jury tampering in a lot of cases.
New Jersey is one of the easier licenses to fake
I'll attest to that. I'm from NJ and in college in PA. I've seen many using forged NJ licenses. One person even went to a NJ DMV claiming to be a friend who had lost his license. All he needed was his friend's mother's maiden name and $5 and he got a photo license in his friend's name. In PA, one just has to call the DMV and they mail you a new one, using a photo stored in a DB from your previous visit.
When I turned 21, my original license expired. DMVs sends people a renewal form about 2 months before expiration, you fill out and send back with a check for the fees, and they send you a non-photo license. Well, I figured I could hang on to the previous license and use the two in conjunction at the liquor store, etc, especially since I was on an internship in MD and couldnt get up to NJ during business hours to get a photo license. Some would take it, others wouldnt, including some that would on some occasions, but not others. Even though the two cards had the same DL numbers on them, same physical info (eyes, height, etc), address, they wouldnt take them.
Now hat I have a photo license, I still have problems on occasion. Every now and then someone will point to the "DUP" marking on it (it means duplicate). They make me see a credit card or my school ID (which used to be faded and tough to make out my face, but I've since gotten a new one).
Now that I've ranted about NJ's problems, it's plainly easy to see how NJ can stop being targeted for fake IDs and stop all the annoyances for the real 21 year olds by simply adopting a PA or MD style system.
I'm curious, what types of things are you instructed to be suspicious about with NJ licenses?