I can't believe that we are going to help this kid out from not doing his homework. Sheesh.
We are? It seems to me that most people here tell the kid to shut the hell up and do his homework. And I agree: the kid should shut up and do the things he's supposed to do. His parents making sure that he does his homework is a GOOD thing! If every parent did that, maybe the world wouldn't be the shithole that it is today.
Of course those Symbian-phones are still a minority. But they sell well enough to increase Nokias market-share in the PDA-business by huge amounts. If I remember correctly the nokia camera-phone was/is the best-selling PDA in Europe
None of this silly, get the source, modify if for a company's purpose, and then complie it. Ah, shit, ok, go find dependancies, complie. Damn, missed one, get that one, compile. Crap, that one had 4 more, ok get those, complie.
Which distro is that? All that compiling would suggest Gentoo. But Gentoo takes care of dependancies automatically. It can't be Mandrake, SuSE or Red Hat, since they use RPM's Debian uses debs.... So what is it? Slackware? Well, there ARE other distros besides Slackware you know?
It's a smart move to replace the relatively expensive Intel CPU's in Sun's low-end cobalt servers and the like with cheaper and better-performing (but hot, which is a bitch for Sun and their amazing RAS -- reliability, accessibility, and serviceability requirements) AMD CPU's.
Intel-chips aren't really any cooler than AMD-chips.
Let's see... Right now Symbian outsells it's MS-rivals. It has all the biggest mobile-phone manufacturers behind it (Nokia, Motorola, SonyEricsson, Samsung, Siemens. And to add insult to injury: the former MS-Smartphone poster-boy, Sendo!). Now, contrast that to MS-offerings: There is one product using it (The Orange smartphone-thingie), it has only Samsung as a licensee (who also has Symbian-license), it's sales are dwarfed by sales of Symbian... And MS-smartphone is supposed to dominate the industry??? I think not!
Either way, SETI is pretty much useless, and should at the very least take a backseat to other more important scientific projects.
Let me guess: you personally run one of those "scientifically more important" projects? And like I said, S@H is used on other projects besides hunting aliens. If I recall correctly, Stephen Hawking uses their findings in his Black Hole research.
Oh please. Do you really think if your precious seti@home hadn't come along, nodody else would have tried to create a distributed computing client? Don't fool yourself.
propably. But the fact is that S@H was first. That alone makes it worthwhile project: for the sole reason of showing that distributed projects of this nature could be done. Whether you like it or not, Folding@home and others owe their existence to Seti@home.
As for your supposed revelation, I'll believe it when I see it. I think it more likely that we'll all be dead before it produces any results.
That may be. So? Seti@home will propably never find aliens. But I don't care. There still is a possibility that they will succeed. Odds are against them, but if they pull through, it is the most important discovery there could be IMO. And that is the reason I do it.
And where are the benefits from Folding@home? I haven't seen any headlines saying "Internet-project finds cure for cancer!". It could very well be that F@H will never achieve anything. Seti@home has acvieved something: it brought projects like these to the limelight and showed that it could be done. And that's alot more than what F@H has achieved.
I don't go around telling others that they should drop the projects they are involved at, and run Seti@home instead. and I would appreciate if you did the same.
What gave you the idea that Seti@home is "waste"? It could bring humanity the greatest revelation there is. And besides, S@H-data is used in variety of scientific projects, not just hunting aliens. And finally: S@H was the forerunner of these kinds of projects. It showed what could be done and how to do it. Without S@H your precious folding@home wouldn't even exist. S@H was the first, it showed others the way.
Let me think about that for a second.... Ummmm... No.
I just hate the people who go around saying "Your distributed computing project sucks! You should run instead!". Why don't you run whatever you want to run, and let others run whatever they want to run? Sounds reasonlable? That's what I thought. Now: Shut the fuck up.
how about making the world a safer, better place (exactly what its being used for now)?
And how do you plan on doing that? Attacking every country that is anti-american? Doing that will only fuel more terrorism. And to counter that terrorism, you attack more countries, which fuels more terrorism ad infinitum
NASA (or someone else, since they're so broken..perhaps the private sector) needs to be told to design a new space vehicle on a Russian-sized budget, instead of a NASA one.
Are you suggesting that they pay the engineers and others Russian-sized salaries as well? Yeah, good luck with that one. Luckily you are not the one deciding these things
How did they lose your trust? What did they do? Provide good drivers for Linux while Ati and others sat around with their collective thumbs up their asses?
It was not my intention to sound like "Great, another useless scientific "discovery"". I was merely curious that are there any tangible benefits to be had from this right now.
Some Asian carriers especially South Korea seem to have gone for CDMA in a big way.
Well whoop-de-fucking-do. So we have US and S-Korea using CDMA. Who uses GSM? Some operators in USA, entire Europe, Africa, large parts of Asia, Australia and (to my knowledge) South-America.
So basically it's US and S-Korea vs. everyone else.
Of course, they claim to have destroyed dozens of our tanks, too, so we know their claims are far from perfect.
How come? I mean, so far things have been going something like this:
Iraq: We shot down an Apache gunship! US: Nope, we haven't lost any helicopters Iraq: Well, here is a video-clip of that downed Apache US: Uhhhhh, yeah we did lose a helicopter
Iraq: Our forces are still fighting in Umm Qasr US: Nope, Umm Qasr is secure Journalists: From what I saw, there's still fierce fighting going on there US: OK, OK. We are still fighting in Umm Qasr
To me it seems that the Coalition denies or plays down any casualties or problems they face, untill they are proven to be wrong one way or the other. So when Iraq says they have destroyed dozen Abrams (we do know for sure that US has lost several tanks) and US denies it, I wouldn't take the word of US as gospel (I wouldn't take the word of Iraq as gospel either).
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Yeah, espesially since the ships in Babylon 5 have such kick-ass shields. No, wait...
"You just don't get it! Mighty Mouse is a cartoon. Superman is a real guy!"
"Yeah, I guess so.... It would be hell of a fight though!"
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We are? It seems to me that most people here tell the kid to shut the hell up and do his homework. And I agree: the kid should shut up and do the things he's supposed to do. His parents making sure that he does his homework is a GOOD thing! If every parent did that, maybe the world wouldn't be the shithole that it is today.
Of course those Symbian-phones are still a minority. But they sell well enough to increase Nokias market-share in the PDA-business by huge amounts. If I remember correctly the nokia camera-phone was/is the best-selling PDA in Europe
Maybe. But since 72.8 x 0 = 0, I don't see the problem
Which distro is that? All that compiling would suggest Gentoo. But Gentoo takes care of dependancies automatically. It can't be Mandrake, SuSE or Red Hat, since they use RPM's Debian uses debs.... So what is it? Slackware? Well, there ARE other distros besides Slackware you know?
Or, are you just talking out of your ass?
I don't know where you are from, but the Nokias-symbian devices are selling REALLY well over here (Finland), and in Europe in general.
Intel-chips aren't really any cooler than AMD-chips.
Let's see... Right now Symbian outsells it's MS-rivals. It has all the biggest mobile-phone manufacturers behind it (Nokia, Motorola, SonyEricsson, Samsung, Siemens. And to add insult to injury: the former MS-Smartphone poster-boy, Sendo!). Now, contrast that to MS-offerings: There is one product using it (The Orange smartphone-thingie), it has only Samsung as a licensee (who also has Symbian-license), it's sales are dwarfed by sales of Symbian... And MS-smartphone is supposed to dominate the industry??? I think not!
Yeah, espesially if he happens to be Conan the Librarian!
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Let me guess: you personally run one of those "scientifically more important" projects? And like I said, S@H is used on other projects besides hunting aliens. If I recall correctly, Stephen Hawking uses their findings in his Black Hole research.
propably. But the fact is that S@H was first. That alone makes it worthwhile project: for the sole reason of showing that distributed projects of this nature could be done. Whether you like it or not, Folding@home and others owe their existence to Seti@home.
That may be. So? Seti@home will propably never find aliens. But I don't care. There still is a possibility that they will succeed. Odds are against them, but if they pull through, it is the most important discovery there could be IMO. And that is the reason I do it.
And where are the benefits from Folding@home? I haven't seen any headlines saying "Internet-project finds cure for cancer!". It could very well be that F@H will never achieve anything. Seti@home has acvieved something: it brought projects like these to the limelight and showed that it could be done. And that's alot more than what F@H has achieved.
I don't go around telling others that they should drop the projects they are involved at, and run Seti@home instead. and I would appreciate if you did the same.
What gave you the idea that Seti@home is "waste"? It could bring humanity the greatest revelation there is. And besides, S@H-data is used in variety of scientific projects, not just hunting aliens. And finally: S@H was the forerunner of these kinds of projects. It showed what could be done and how to do it. Without S@H your precious folding@home wouldn't even exist. S@H was the first, it showed others the way.
Let me think about that for a second.... Ummmm... No.
I just hate the people who go around saying "Your distributed computing project sucks! You should run instead!". Why don't you run whatever you want to run, and let others run whatever they want to run? Sounds reasonlable? That's what I thought. Now: Shut the fuck up.
And how do you plan on doing that? Attacking every country that is anti-american? Doing that will only fuel more terrorism. And to counter that terrorism, you attack more countries, which fuels more terrorism ad infinitum
Are you suggesting that they pay the engineers and others Russian-sized salaries as well? Yeah, good luck with that one. Luckily you are not the one deciding these things
How did they lose your trust? What did they do? Provide good drivers for Linux while Ati and others sat around with their collective thumbs up their asses?
Care to enlighten us, and what is your proposal to fix the situation (apart from Autopackage of course
It was not my intention to sound like "Great, another useless scientific "discovery"". I was merely curious that are there any tangible benefits to be had from this right now.
Are there any?
Well whoop-de-fucking-do. So we have US and S-Korea using CDMA. Who uses GSM? Some operators in USA, entire Europe, Africa, large parts of Asia, Australia and (to my knowledge) South-America.
So basically it's US and S-Korea vs. everyone else.
How come? I mean, so far things have been going something like this:
Iraq: We shot down an Apache gunship!
US: Nope, we haven't lost any helicopters
Iraq: Well, here is a video-clip of that downed Apache
US: Uhhhhh, yeah we did lose a helicopter
Iraq: Our forces are still fighting in Umm Qasr
US: Nope, Umm Qasr is secure
Journalists: From what I saw, there's still fierce fighting going on there
US: OK, OK. We are still fighting in Umm Qasr
To me it seems that the Coalition denies or plays down any casualties or problems they face, untill they are proven to be wrong one way or the other. So when Iraq says they have destroyed dozen Abrams (we do know for sure that US has lost several tanks) and US denies it, I wouldn't take the word of US as gospel (I wouldn't take the word of Iraq as gospel either).
Because they broadcast videos of surrendered coalition forces? How is that different from BBC, CNN etc. showing videos of surrendered Iraqis?
BEcause they show pictures of dead coalition troops? How is that different from the pictures of dead Iraqis we have seen in elsewhere?