The Former Russian Republics are all cash strapped. We should have (in the past) or at the very least, NOW made arrangements to infuse cash into their economies in exchange for the Plutonium
Wait, didn't we already infuse the former USSR with our advanced capitalist ideals? Seems to me the USofA were buidling McDonald's restaurants in the USSR while the Russians were trading nukes on the black market market to the highest bidder:P.
I was in HS in the mid 60s and part of our curriculum was learning to duck and cover our heads in the event (immenent) of nuclear war. Our communities were actually sounding sirens every Saturday night at nine as a drill. The Bay of Pigs was at the top of the news (propoganda) and we all lived for today cause we actually believed there would be no tomorrow.
Now we're more concerned with the rogue state or terrorist nuclear weapon.
If you're that concerned with the rogue state and terrorist nuclear weapons then I suggest you put some pressure on your government to stop creating "ENEMIES" (justification for genocide) throughout the world and stop looking for commies in every closet. In other words --- stop getting your so-called information from the mass media propoganda machine.
I wonder if someone even 10 years younger than I am can understand how much things have changed?
The more things change, the more they remain the same. The only thing that has changed is the mindset (or lack thereof) of the masses who want and demand instant gratification and accept rote learning as the norm. What differs from your generation to mine is simple... we were activists and you are passifists and then you wonder why there's always a supposed threat looming from all corners of the world outside of your backyard. Maybe the REAL threat is in your own backyard?
If I designed a program (or 3) while working at a company (say WB) and they USE those programs in production and in other subsidiary companies internationally, do I hold the copyright as my name is on the programs as the author?
The company was about to patent the software (which saved them millions of dollars) and award that patent to myself and then they dropped the patent dept. and no patents were granted thereafter.
Is that company liable to me if they redistribute/sell my copyrighted (by defacto) programs?
If the 75 yr. copyright hold is accurate then aren't Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny and all those eary cartoon characters from Disney and Warner Bros. open to public domain?
" Wouldn't it be simpler to just put these in a deodorant stick/ball/spray? That way you can apply them direct to your sweaty bits"
Blocking your sweat glands from perspiration has been said to be one of the leading causes of breast cancer. I live in the USA and it's bloody hard to find a deoderant that is not also an anti-perspirant for ladies. I finally found one by Mennen and use it to protect me from breast cancer. Ironically, considering women are the most suseptible to breast cancer, there are numerous deoderants for men available that do not also incluce anti-perspirants.
IMHO any innovation (or product) that can work to reduce the incidents of breast cancer is worth buying. Who knows, it just may save the life of a woman you love.
ACK! I should know better than to post from word-of-mouth before researching first. You are right... it was rumour and heresay. My apologies and thanks for setting the record straight:).
Regards.
Sure, registering an OS is fairly new on the consumer side of things, but companies have been doing this for server OSes for YEARS!
I have a problem with that line of reasoning.Companies that have been registering licenses for YEARS are commercial entities that make a PROFIT (directly or indirectly) by using the servers to run their business operations.
Compare this to let's say a bar that pays much higher prices to the liquor commission for their inventory which they sell at higher prices.
The consumer who buys liquor pays a lower price because it IS for personal use and not for resale.
The problem I have is when the consumer (who realizes no profit or has no COMMERCIAL enterprise) is being unfairly taxed for running the o/s. YET, the business interests are given concessions (bulk licensing schemes and exemption from the PA). How is this fair and equitable business practices on the part of M$?
I believe even Joe home user will recognize the inequities and the scams inherent in this scheme and will jump ship.
I believe Slashdot offers a valuable service to consumers and I applaud them for it. If you want to see a msg board site that doesn't bash all hell outta M$ lately then simply sign on to a pro-M$ msg board site. WARNING: the site may bash the GPL.
While you may be tired of the so-called "bitching" and "whining" about M$ on here, I just might be tired of hearing you moan about it also.:P
Would it be unreasonable under the Consumer Protection Act (differs from country to country)
to require all providers of shrinkwrapped products with this kind of licensing to provide the full license agreement on their websites?
Failing the presence of a website, would it not be reasonable for license agreements to be readily available with such products (included with the packaging but also accessible by opening the box) before the shrinkwrapped cd was opened?
It seems to me that the present license agreements are illegal in the same sense as you would not sign a lease agreement w/o first reading it no? Considering the restriction under XP is it not exactly like a lease agreement?
Now if I could get my tv to RUN. I turned it off in 1994 and it won't come back on! I also typed/deltree winblows in 1996... took me that long huh? heh
First we had seperation of church and state. Now we NEED seperation of corporations and state. Under Bush we are seeing no seperation of either church or corporations from state.
TW has been involved with Juno for at least 5 yrs... insider info. I'm not sure about Earthlink but it's also possible. Don't think AOL only.. investigate the whole link to include TW prior to the AOL takeover.
Too bad we can't throw these pro-business Republicans out of office and replace them with pro-business Democrats that pretend to give a shit.
Too bad you can't open your browser to websites like freedom.org and zmag (for example) once in a while and discover that there are OTHER options available.
he prospect of a real ISP monopoly scares me shitless...
And so it should. T/W used South Africa (for one example) for it's pilot project target offering cable service for ridiculously low rates. Once they choked out ALL the competition from dialup ISPs for a connection monopoly, the prices soared.
That's an example of typical capitalist monopoly tactics. It's up to us to resist while we still have a choice. By supporting your local (community) ISP, you are sending a clear msg to the AOL/TW's of the world that bigger doesn't mean better and certainly not faster in the final analysis.
"In a move that would transform the American economy, Rockefeller set out to
replace a world of independent oilmen with a giant company controlled by him."
And now OPEC controls 40% of the distribution of world oil supplies. The Rockerfellers
of today find this so appauling that they support and indeed instigate hostilities
in the middle east in a desperate struggle to gain back the control they lost. It's a
shame they can't impose US copyright laws on the Arab nations.:P
Isn't it typical of a huge capitalist monopoly corporation (that abuses its monopoly) to rewrite history in their own best interests?
The rights to life, liberty and property as were written in the constitution actually mean the rights OF property.. or top down democracy.
Briefly, the rights OF property means that the wealthy and the powerful (the minority) have rights under the constitution to protect their property (holdings) from the masses.
The growth of the industrial economy, and the rise of corporate forms of economic enterprise, led to a completely new meaning of the term. In a current official document, "Person" is broadly defined to include any individual, branch, partnership, associated group, association, estate, trust,corporation or other organization (whether or not organized under the laws of any State), or any government entity," a concept that
doubtless would have shocked Madison [the leading framer of the constitutional system... an astute and lucid political thinker whose views largely prevailed] and others with intellectual roots in the Enlightenment and classical liberalism--pre-capitalist, and anti-capitalist in spirit
These radical changes in the conception of human rights and democracy were NOT introduced primarily by legislation, but by judicial decisions and intellectual commentary.
Corporations, which previously had been considered artificial entities with no rights, were accorded all the rights of persons, and far more , since they are "immortal persons," and "persons" of
extraordinary wealth and power.
Furthermore, they were no longer bound to the specific purposes designated by state charter, but could act as they chose, with few constraints.
The intellectual backgrounds for granting such extraordinary rights to "collectivist legal entities" lie in neo-Hegelian doctrines that also underlie Bolshevism and fascism: the idea that organic entities have rights over and above those of persons.
In Noam Chomsky: Market Democracy.
Also good reading: Profits Over People, neoliberalism and global order. Noam Chomsky (1999).
Next time your TV goes to commercial, mute it, get up, and go....
Actually what most people do not realize is that the contents on TV are just as bad as the advertising. Think about how many of us live the lifestyles of those portrayed on TV... how do those portrayed lifestyles make you feel?
Do you ever think to yourself that it might be nice to live that lifestyle? I'm not talking soap operas (although they gear those to a specific audience as well), I'm talking prime time shows like Friends, Suddenly Susan, Caroline in the City, Sabrina, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, etc. etc. Now ask yourself how many times you see the actors in these shows vegging out in front of a TV for any length of time. If at all, they are very rare occurances - perhaps 5/100 episodes. Compare this to the TV viewing time of the average American family. How many homes in America have a TV in the kitchen? Hell, we wouldn't want to miss a show while eating supper would we?
Taking it one step further, how many times do you see actors in prime time shows portrayed as spending hours a day on the computer? Do they even portray that at all?
The next time you decide to sit in front of the tube and think you are avoiding advertising just by muting commercials, and walking away to get a drink or a snack, think again. In addition, pay very close attention to the sets, the costumes, namebrands mentioned and/or displayed prominently. All of these things are advertisements. Nothing on TV is an accident. If they aren't directly selling a product in a commercial (often with a storyline in the ad itself), they are selling you a lifestyle in the shows themselves.
By far however, the very worse thing about TV is rote learning. There is noi nteraction whatsoever. You are never viewing anything that has not been meticulously worked out to induce envy and to turn your wants into needs.
Yes it is all information, but ask yourself in whose best interest is the information offered. Then ask yourself if you are ever given enough information to make an informed decision on anything or form an independant opinion. You may now turn off the tube(s) and get on with your life:).
Last time I check, most of the OSS companies had either folded or laid off huge numbers of employees. Just because thousands of Slashdot folks think it is so, don't believe that the rest of the corporate world is going to jump to this business model any time soon.
Actually many are jumping to this business model. Well it depends on what they SELL. The service industry has gobbled up a lot of business due to outsourcing from huge software and mfg corps. Service industries are embracing Linux and the GPL because it makes good sense to have speed, stability, and flexibility. The developers of the GPL are in very high demand precisely because they offer this and are innovative rather being than strapped to one model only.
I think the reason M$ is terrified of Linux and the GPL is that the GPL rings of barterdom and not only M$ is afraid of that.... it terrifies the entire capitalist community.
LOL I had to check your nick to make sure it wasn't my husband that posted that. You took the words right out of his mouth LOL. No wonder the damn dot.com's went belly up. Good post:P
How can we get real free speech to places like China or Saudi Arabia
I agree with most of what you posted with the above exception. We need to respect the social systems of nations like China and Saudi Arabia and stop comparing our social system favorably over other nations. Otherwise your post was very insightful:).
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The Former Russian Republics are all cash strapped. We should have (in the past) or at the very least, NOW made arrangements to infuse cash into their economies in exchange for the Plutonium
:P.
Wait, didn't we already infuse the former USSR with our advanced capitalist ideals? Seems to me the USofA were buidling McDonald's restaurants in the USSR while the Russians were trading nukes on the black market market to the highest bidder
I was in HS in the mid 60s and part of our curriculum was learning to duck and cover our heads in the event (immenent) of nuclear war. Our communities were actually sounding sirens every Saturday night at nine as a drill. The Bay of Pigs was at the top of the news (propoganda) and we all lived for today cause we actually believed there would be no tomorrow.
... we were activists and you are passifists and then you wonder why there's always a supposed threat looming from all corners of the world outside of your backyard. Maybe the REAL threat is in your own backyard?
Now we're more concerned with the rogue state or terrorist nuclear weapon.
If you're that concerned with the rogue state and terrorist nuclear weapons then I suggest you put some pressure on your government to stop creating "ENEMIES" (justification for genocide) throughout the world and stop looking for commies in every closet. In other words --- stop getting your so-called information from the mass media propoganda machine.
I wonder if someone even 10 years younger than I am can understand how much things have changed?
The more things change, the more they remain the same. The only thing that has changed is the mindset (or lack thereof) of the masses who want and demand instant gratification and accept rote learning as the norm. What differs from your generation to mine is simple
If I designed a program (or 3) while working at a company (say WB) and they USE those programs in production and in other subsidiary companies internationally, do I hold the copyright as my name is on the programs as the author?
The company was about to patent the software (which saved them millions of dollars) and award that patent to myself and then they dropped the patent dept. and no patents were granted thereafter.
Is that company liable to me if they redistribute/sell my copyrighted (by defacto) programs?
If the 75 yr. copyright hold is accurate then aren't Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny and all those eary cartoon characters from Disney and Warner Bros. open to public domain?
" Wouldn't it be simpler to just put these in a deodorant stick/ball/spray? That way you can apply them direct to your sweaty bits"
Blocking your sweat glands from perspiration has been said to be one of the leading causes of breast cancer. I live in the USA and it's bloody hard to find a deoderant that is not also an anti-perspirant for ladies. I finally found one by Mennen and use it to protect me from breast cancer. Ironically, considering women are the most suseptible to breast cancer, there are numerous deoderants for men available that do not also incluce anti-perspirants.
IMHO any innovation (or product) that can work to reduce the incidents of breast cancer is worth buying. Who knows, it just may save the life of a woman you love.
ACK! I should know better than to post from word-of-mouth before researching first. You are right ... it was rumour and heresay. My apologies and thanks for setting the record straight :).
Regards.
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Sure, registering an OS is fairly new on the consumer side of things, but companies have been doing this for server OSes for YEARS!
I have a problem with that line of reasoning.Companies that have been registering licenses for YEARS are commercial entities that make a PROFIT (directly or indirectly) by using the servers to run their business operations.
Compare this to let's say a bar that pays much higher prices to the liquor commission for their inventory which they sell at higher prices. The consumer who buys liquor pays a lower price because it IS for personal use and not for resale.
The problem I have is when the consumer (who realizes no profit or has no COMMERCIAL enterprise) is being unfairly taxed for running the o/s. YET, the business interests are given concessions (bulk licensing schemes and exemption from the PA). How is this fair and equitable business practices on the part of M$?
I believe even Joe home user will recognize the inequities and the scams inherent in this scheme and will jump ship.
Capitalism was designed to implode!
I believe Slashdot offers a valuable service to consumers and I applaud them for it. If you want to see a msg board site that doesn't bash all hell outta M$ lately then simply sign on to a pro-M$ msg board site. WARNING: the site may bash the GPL. While you may be tired of the so-called "bitching" and "whining" about M$ on here, I just might be tired of hearing you moan about it also. :P
Would it be unreasonable under the Consumer Protection Act (differs from country to country) to require all providers of shrinkwrapped products with this kind of licensing to provide the full license agreement on their websites? Failing the presence of a website, would it not be reasonable for license agreements to be readily available with such products (included with the packaging but also accessible by opening the box) before the shrinkwrapped cd was opened?
It seems to me that the present license agreements are illegal in the same sense as you would not sign a lease agreement w/o first reading it no? Considering the restriction under XP is it not exactly like a lease agreement?
Now if you could get Linux to run on your TV
:).
/deltree winblows in 1996 ... took me that long huh? heh
Great post that should be mod'd up
Now if I could get my tv to RUN. I turned it off in 1994 and it won't come back on! I also typed
Geezus I guess M$ never experienced an IRC /ctcp flood huh? LOL
First we had seperation of church and state. Now we NEED seperation of corporations and state. Under Bush we are seeing no seperation of either church or corporations from state.
TW has been involved with Juno for at least 5 yrs... insider info. I'm not sure about Earthlink but it's also possible. Don't think AOL only .. investigate the whole link to include TW prior to the AOL takeover.
Too bad we can't throw these pro-business Republicans out of office and replace them with pro-business Democrats that pretend to give a shit.
Too bad you can't open your browser to websites like freedom.org and zmag (for example) once in a while and discover that there are OTHER options available.
he prospect of a real ISP monopoly scares me shitless...
And so it should. T/W used South Africa (for one example) for it's pilot project target offering cable service for ridiculously low rates. Once they choked out ALL the competition from dialup ISPs for a connection monopoly, the prices soared.
That's an example of typical capitalist monopoly tactics. It's up to us to resist while we still have a choice. By supporting your local (community) ISP, you are sending a clear msg to the AOL/TW's of the world that bigger doesn't mean better and certainly not faster in the final analysis.
"In a move that would transform the American economy, Rockefeller set out to replace a world of independent oilmen with a giant company controlled by him."
:P
And now OPEC controls 40% of the distribution of world oil supplies. The Rockerfellers of today find this so appauling that they support and indeed instigate hostilities in the middle east in a desperate struggle to gain back the control they lost. It's a shame they can't impose US copyright laws on the Arab nations.
"speaking their jive French"
I think you may be referring to Acadienne (Acadians) who's dialect was a mixture of French and English.
Happy Independance Day.
Isn't it typical of a huge capitalist monopoly corporation (that abuses its monopoly) to rewrite history in their own best interests?
.. or top down democracy.
... an astute and lucid political thinker whose views largely prevailed] and others with intellectual roots in the Enlightenment and classical liberalism--pre-capitalist, and anti-capitalist in spirit
The rights to life, liberty and property as were written in the constitution actually mean the rights OF property
Briefly, the rights OF property means that the wealthy and the powerful (the minority) have rights under the constitution to protect their property (holdings) from the masses.
The growth of the industrial economy, and the rise of corporate forms of economic enterprise, led to a completely new meaning of the term. In a current official document, "Person" is broadly defined to include any individual, branch, partnership, associated group, association, estate, trust,corporation or other organization (whether or not organized under the laws of any State), or any government entity," a concept that doubtless would have shocked Madison [the leading framer of the constitutional system
These radical changes in the conception of human rights and democracy were NOT introduced primarily by legislation, but by judicial decisions and intellectual commentary.
Corporations, which previously had been considered artificial entities with no rights, were accorded all the rights of persons, and far more , since they are "immortal persons," and "persons" of extraordinary wealth and power.
Furthermore, they were no longer bound to the specific purposes designated by state charter, but could act as they chose, with few constraints. The intellectual backgrounds for granting such extraordinary rights to "collectivist legal entities" lie in neo-Hegelian doctrines that also underlie Bolshevism and fascism: the idea that organic entities have rights over and above those of persons.
In Noam Chomsky: Market Democracy.
Also good reading: Profits Over People, neoliberalism and global order. Noam Chomsky (1999).
Well in Canada they've had the watermark on bills for years now. Maybe it's not just a watermark????
... no watermarks .... equal value of currency :P.
That's ok coz when the going get rough Canadians use Canadian Tire money
Next time your TV goes to commercial, mute it, get up, and go ....
... how do those portrayed lifestyles make you feel?
:).
Actually what most people do not realize is that the contents on TV are just as bad as the advertising. Think about how many of us live the lifestyles of those portrayed on TV
Do you ever think to yourself that it might be nice to live that lifestyle? I'm not talking soap operas (although they gear those to a specific audience as well), I'm talking prime time shows like Friends, Suddenly Susan, Caroline in the City, Sabrina, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, etc. etc. Now ask yourself how many times you see the actors in these shows vegging out in front of a TV for any length of time. If at all, they are very rare occurances - perhaps 5/100 episodes. Compare this to the TV viewing time of the average American family. How many homes in America have a TV in the kitchen? Hell, we wouldn't want to miss a show while eating supper would we?
Taking it one step further, how many times do you see actors in prime time shows portrayed as spending hours a day on the computer? Do they even portray that at all?
The next time you decide to sit in front of the tube and think you are avoiding advertising just by muting commercials, and walking away to get a drink or a snack, think again. In addition, pay very close attention to the sets, the costumes, namebrands mentioned and/or displayed prominently. All of these things are advertisements. Nothing on TV is an accident. If they aren't directly selling a product in a commercial (often with a storyline in the ad itself), they are selling you a lifestyle in the shows themselves.
By far however, the very worse thing about TV is rote learning. There is noi nteraction whatsoever. You are never viewing anything that has not been meticulously worked out to induce envy and to turn your wants into needs.
Yes it is all information, but ask yourself in whose best interest is the information offered. Then ask yourself if you are ever given enough information to make an informed decision on anything or form an independant opinion. You may now turn off the tube(s) and get on with your life
Last time I check, most of the OSS companies had either folded or laid off huge numbers of employees. Just because thousands of Slashdot folks think it is so, don't believe that the rest of the corporate world is going to jump to this business model any time soon.
.... it terrifies the entire capitalist community.
Actually many are jumping to this business model. Well it depends on what they SELL. The service industry has gobbled up a lot of business due to outsourcing from huge software and mfg corps. Service industries are embracing Linux and the GPL because it makes good sense to have speed, stability, and flexibility. The developers of the GPL are in very high demand precisely because they offer this and are innovative rather being than strapped to one model only.
I think the reason M$ is terrified of Linux and the GPL is that the GPL rings of barterdom and not only M$ is afraid of that
LOL I had to check your nick to make sure it wasn't my husband that posted that. You took the words right out of his mouth LOL. No wonder the damn dot.com's went belly up. Good post :P
Taking something out of context and blowing it way out of proportion? Sounds like something the mass media does constantly :P.
How can we get real free speech to places like China or Saudi Arabia I agree with most of what you posted with the above exception. We need to respect the social systems of nations like China and Saudi Arabia and stop comparing our social system favorably over other nations. Otherwise your post was very insightful :).