Oh really, if Whites were so bend to get rid of Blacks all they would have to do is leave them alone in their getthos.
Ever seens crime stats from cities like Chicago ?
Well, the point is you cannot mandate human decency and trying to do so will result in even bigger mess. So what are you going to do, shoot.com CEOs ?
BTW. Your site is full of junk and lies.
If you cared enough you would take a time to research all these alleged "murders" that led to Cincinnati riots instead of calling to "show the pigs who owns the city, "
"I worked for a place that owes me over $20k in back pay, but they have no money. "
This is what I was talking about. Working for a company is almost like an investment. You assume some risks and hope for the best. If you get screwed and owner makes out with 10 millions in his Swiss account then, most likely you have some grounds to take this issues to a court. On the other hand if whole enterprise collapses because of wrong decisions then what are you expect us to do?
I mean, I know these hi-tech workers do feel cheated to who is supposed to pay for that , the taxpayers ?
"intellectual property alone."
Not alone but IP laws are great motivator for people to even start research ( or rather for people who fund them.)
"the legality of reverse engineering allowed the PC revolution to proceed "
Yes, but without IP half of these companies would not spend money on any research. Have you looked inside of your computer lately ? Just about every part is protected by IP laws, you can't just start duplicating G400s and hope that nothing happens.
"- if you don't like the terms of the GPL *don't use any fucking GPL'd code*. "
Sure,but please you stop running around claiming that GPL is a definition of freedom and acusing us commercial developers of deying god-given freedoms to other people.
"creating artificial monopolies without achieving its stated purpose of fostering innovation. "
Are you mad ?
For the last 300 hundred years most of innovation was based and Intellectual property laws and yet you are here claiming it does not work.
Do you know any other model that has been tested over many years and found working or you just are another bragging theoretician just like our friend RMS ?
Nonsense. I cannot have GPL library linked with my software without GPLing the whole thing.
My software is NOT a derivative of anything , it simply uses some of the services provided by this library.
Still, can't do it..
"If you wish to make use of the work of someone else who has already solved your problem, you must be prepared to contribute back to the community. "
Again, that's not freedom.
Of course, I don't have to use GPLed code but I can always bitch that stated goals of GPL and FSF are much different from reality of licensing software under GPL.
Yeah and I will come along and offer the same kind of software for $5,000 assuming standard commercial distribution model.
Who do you think will win on this deal ?
Where do you get that shit from ?
I actually lived in one of these soviet-block countries and I can assure you that 20 years ago economy there was not worth a shit.
Yeah, it sucked like hell being forced to stand in line for 8 hours just to get fucking toilet paper, this being just a top of the iceberg.
The only reason Chinese actually can speak of having some sort of reasonable economy is the fact that they allow private-style enterprise to grow and flourish there.
"You'd be suprised at the number of companies who go belly up every year. "
Well, Goverment run companies rarely go "belly up" for the simple reason that our lovely Democrats in the congress will always have enough money to spend unless somebody stops them from doing so. They can print more.
The question is not if they can be efficient but what is the percentage of these projects that end up being complete fuckups as compared to number of such failed ventures in a private sector.
After all, everyone knows how Soviet state run economy ended up after 50 years of head on competition with US free market style society.
"What is that based on? The fact that big stores have more customers? That's pretty circular. "
Well, true but then you are denying people their free will by insisting that there is no such thing and everything is more-less result of heavy advertising etc...
People did found it more convenient to make their purchases in one place as opposed to trying to find their stuff in 5 different locations. It is a fact.
How in the world did you come up with that idea I might be in support of European style socialism?
As to the original issue.. well, a recovered alcoholic can be an excellent worker but his chances of being such are much lower than somebody who was never involved with excessive drinking.
The question is ; as an employer, Am I allowed to minimize my risks but not hiring people like our recovered alcoholic or would that be against human rights etc.. ?
No, that's bullshit. Do you really believe that software creation process can improved upon by having bunch of governmental paid puppets dispense money based on their beliefs on what good software is about?
BTW. Funding for arts is a complete waste of money as far as government spendings are concerned.
To put it in another way, Government has no business funding arts just like it has no business funding religion.
"he's also not that great of a programmer (ever looked at the emacs code? bloat bloat bloat"
Bloat has nothing to do with quality of software designers who worked on the project.
It is a direct result of faulty planning and if it was done by RMS he might be shitty "business analyst" but it says nothing about his abilities as a programmer.
PS.
I think RMS is a dangerous lunatic as far as his political ideas go but I don't think he is a bad programmer. Got to be fair here.
No, it is not about human rights.
Most of the refugees from Soviet dominated countries escaped because they recognized the lack of any economical future ( specially as compared to western world.)
They refused to live in Communism because it would be a shity life. Simple as that.
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Oh really, if Whites were so bend to get rid of Blacks all they would have to do is leave them alone in their getthos.
Ever seens crime stats from cities like Chicago ?
Well, the point is you cannot mandate human decency and trying to do so will result in even bigger mess. So what are you going to do, shoot .com CEOs ?
BTW. Your site is full of junk and lies.
If you cared enough you would take a time to research all these alleged "murders" that led to Cincinnati riots instead of calling to "show the pigs who owns the city, "
"I worked for a place that owes me over $20k in back pay, but they have no money. "
This is what I was talking about. Working for a company is almost like an investment. You assume some risks and hope for the best. If you get screwed and owner makes out with 10 millions in his Swiss account then, most likely you have some grounds to take this issues to a court. On the other hand if whole enterprise collapses because of wrong decisions then what are you expect us to do?
I mean, I know these hi-tech workers do feel cheated to who is supposed to pay for that , the taxpayers ?
Would you want anarchy to take over the law ?
This what this whole process amounts to.
Viva Franco !
Haga la guerra, no paz.
"Get over it and work for a living or If you any good, you'd get another job. "
.... and there a courts to take this issue to before one resorts to picketing.
BTW. If you go to work for somebody you assume some risks, just like everybody else. Take your time, research and then make more informed decision.
Well, not anything ...
There are milions of Spaniards there so some things are getting done.
Sue me then
For the same reason police can do a lot of things you are not allowed to. It is agency specifically designed to deal with this kind of shit.
"intellectual property alone."
Not alone but IP laws are great motivator for people to even start research ( or rather for people who fund them.)
"the legality of reverse engineering allowed the PC revolution to proceed "
Yes, but without IP half of these companies would not spend money on any research. Have you looked inside of your computer lately ? Just about every part is protected by IP laws, you can't just start duplicating G400s and hope that nothing happens.
"- if you don't like the terms of the GPL *don't use any fucking GPL'd code*. "
Sure,but please you stop running around claiming that GPL is a definition of freedom and acusing us commercial developers of deying god-given freedoms to other people.
"creating artificial monopolies without achieving its stated purpose of fostering innovation. "
Are you mad ?
For the last 300 hundred years most of innovation was based and Intellectual property laws and yet you are here claiming it does not work.
Do you know any other model that has been tested over many years and found working or you just are another bragging theoretician just like our friend RMS ?
Possibly because he CANNOT provide valid or more convincing economical reasons for using open source.
Nonsense. I cannot have GPL library linked with my software without GPLing the whole thing. ..
My software is NOT a derivative of anything , it simply uses some of the services provided by this library.
Still, can't do it
Hell, one more time .....
But then it takes away the right to keep the changes to yourself and still distribute binaries of modified software. So much for freedom.
"If you wish to make use of the work of someone else who has already solved your problem, you must be prepared to contribute back to the community. "
Again, that's not freedom.
Of course, I don't have to use GPLed code but I can always bitch that stated goals of GPL and FSF are much different from reality of licensing software under GPL.
Yeah and I will come along and offer the same kind of software for $5,000 assuming standard commercial distribution model.
Who do you think will win on this deal ?
Where do you get that shit from ?
I actually lived in one of these soviet-block countries and I can assure you that 20 years ago economy there was not worth a shit.
Yeah, it sucked like hell being forced to stand in line for 8 hours just to get fucking toilet paper, this being just a top of the iceberg.
The only reason Chinese actually can speak of having some sort of reasonable economy is the fact that they allow private-style enterprise to grow and flourish there.
"You'd be suprised at the number of companies who go belly up every year. "
Well, Goverment run companies rarely go "belly up" for the simple reason that our lovely Democrats in the congress will always have enough money to spend unless somebody stops them from doing so. They can print more.
The question is not if they can be efficient but what is the percentage of these projects that end up being complete fuckups as compared to number of such failed ventures in a private sector.
After all, everyone knows how Soviet state run economy ended up after 50 years of head on competition with US free market style society.
"What is that based on? The fact that big stores have more customers? That's pretty circular. "
...
Well, true but then you are denying people their free will by insisting that there is no such thing and everything is more-less result of heavy advertising etc
People did found it more convenient to make their purchases in one place as opposed to trying to find their stuff in 5 different locations. It is a fact.
How in the world did you come up with that idea I might be in support of European style socialism?
.. well, a recovered alcoholic can be an excellent worker but his chances of being such are much lower than somebody who was never involved with excessive drinking.
.. ?
As to the original issue
The question is ; as an employer, Am I allowed to minimize my risks but not hiring people like our recovered alcoholic or would that be against human rights etc
No, that's bullshit. Do you really believe that software creation process can improved upon by having bunch of governmental paid puppets dispense money based on their beliefs on what good software is about?
BTW. Funding for arts is a complete waste of money as far as government spendings are concerned.
To put it in another way, Government has no business funding arts just like it has no business funding religion.
"He's not a good businessman"
No argument here.
"he's also not that great of a programmer (ever looked at the emacs code? bloat bloat bloat"
Bloat has nothing to do with quality of software designers who worked on the project.
It is a direct result of faulty planning and if it was done by RMS he might be shitty "business analyst" but it says nothing about his abilities as a programmer.
PS.
I think RMS is a dangerous lunatic as far as his political ideas go but I don't think he is a bad programmer. Got to be fair here.
No, it is not about human rights.
Most of the refugees from Soviet dominated countries escaped because they recognized the lack of any economical future ( specially as compared to western world.)
They refused to live in Communism because it would be a shity life. Simple as that.