Several of the updates to Leopard that Apple issues have to be hacked for people running the Psystar machines. Some people are saying that PsyStar is doing that hacking and redistributing the altered code to its customers. If they are indeed doing that, it's a fair deal more important than saying "I'm an Apple" in the firmware.
I think the trademark issues and damage to Apple's reputation are bigger winners for Apple, though.
So they're offering OS X consulting services? Big deal. I think the whole practice of using Apple's trademarks to damage Apple's reputation is a much bigger issue.
According to this California FAQ list about aftermarket auto parts, you can indeed replace an engine with another engine which is not the same, but it has to meet additional guidelines if it's not the identical replacement part.
Specifically:
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
* The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
* The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
* If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
* All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.
Actually, they weren't rolling their own hardware then, either. My G4 has a Foxconn motherboard. My friend's MacPro has a motherboard from guess who... Foxconn. Apple designs the spec and orders the hardware from companies that make hardware.
GM doesn't make brake lines, either, and I'll bet that the guy who poured my driveway didn't mine the gravel. Companies buy manufactured goods and assemble them all the time.
The problems Apple had with the PowerPC were not problems with building the boards. The G5 (which was fabbed for Apple by IBM) was never cool enough to run in a laptop. There were often shortages of the Power/PowerPC platform due partly to small fab runs and high fault rates. IBM was also using some of the same chips in their own hardware and was rumored to be favoring themselves over Apple for the chips that were manufactured successfully when there were shortages.
The switch to Intel was to find a vendor who had sufficient fab capacity and a strong enough process to meet the availability and design specs Apple needed.
I'd say that's definitely a derivative work, and that if they're calling it Leopard or an Apple product with modified code in it that they're violating the trademarks, too. IANAL, though. That's why someone else is in the courts and we're here jabbering about it like the football fans are talking about Favre's retirement.
I don't see where the person to whom you are responding said Jobs just wants to make cool stuff and doesn't also want to make money. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I think the point was that Jobs prefers to make his money by making cool stuff, whereas Gates never really made anything "cool" (except for Expedia, which MS spun off, and OS/2, which they smothered with a pillow).
By buying a Mac for OS X, they're likely buying it for the reliability and the predictability of the Apple experience across multiple Macs. That's something that is possible for Apple to offer over Microsoft specifically because the hardware configurations, preloaded software (Dell OEM add-on hell, anyone), and such are so closely controlled.
If Apple was dealing with multiple bargain-basement PC configurations, multiple OEMs installing random crapware, and the OEMs providing non-uniform tech support (Apple supports Apple, everyone supports MS), then OS X wouldn't be what it is.
Buying a Mac for what you get with OS X is more of a package deal than most people realize. It's not just that Apple doesn't want to split up that package, but that they'd have a hard time doing so while maintaining the advantages OS X offers.
I'd argue that by doing what Microsoft does and dealing with the problems Microsoft has, Apple would be losing the promise of a seamless experience that differentiates them from Microsoft in the first place. If they're in the same shrink-wrap market as Microsoft and can't do it better than Microsoft, then they'd probably be crushed under heel (or by a flying chair). Apple's practice of being particular about integrating the hardware and software is what makes their segment exist.
The really funny thing is that OS X has really nice drivers for my scroll mouse, yet people complain that the only mouse they can use on a Mac is an Apple mouse. Any USB scroll mouse I've ever plugged into my G4 Mac just worked. Even a PS/2 mouse through an adapter or PS/2 to USB KVM has worked right away. If you don't like the Apple mice, don't use them.
Well, it's all specified by Apple. You don't see too many places to buy EFI-based Xeon motherboards off the shelf. Most PC companies don't manufacture their own motherboards, either.
To be fair, not everyone would opt for Xeons when building, so if you went with 2.83 Ghz Core 2 Quads instead it'd only be $1100 for the processors. I think that's still safe to consider comparable. Damn if you can find a dual-socket LGA 775 motherboard, though, so it's back to Xeons.
So, $1400 for processors and at least $224 for a dual-socket LGA 771 motherboard. 2 GB of DDR2-800 we can get from NewEgg for $40. A 320 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s drive is $65. A Radeon 2600 XT with 256 MB is $67. $24 nets us a 20x dual-layer DVD burner. Let's say you can get a mouse and keyboard for $15 that you can actually stand to use for a day.
So that's $1835 without a case or power supply. Surely someone was missing some parts or was full of shit.
Well, maybe, but then it'd be the iTax, wouldn't it? Or maybe the iTribute. Macs are often worth the sometimes higher price if you need what Apple provides, but they do sometimes gouge a little in the margin.
Actually, while your sentiment is right the direction is often the opposite. Lincoln, with its higher margins and lower market share, is where much of the development is done. The components that are developed for the luxury models which work well are then modified to be cheaper to produce and put into larger runs for Fords.
The tech rolls downhill because if you're going to have a recall, you'd rather have fewer parts to replace on cars that you made more initial profit selling. You never want more parts recalled on slimmer margins.
IANAL, but a cease-and-desist order was probably the first step rather than a way to work out a licensing agreement. That is probably sufficient for minimizing damages, too, since if PsyStar stopped doing what they'd been asked to stop doing, the damages would stop mounting.
Very funny, wikifool. If you're part of the culture at all, you know Apple sued Microsoft over "look and feel" that they stole from Xerox. I'd call that not being afraid to use their lawyers.
I would give a link for that, but since you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by WikiMedia into thinking widely-known facts have to be vetted against random sites by random cites, I'll just let you know that GIYF. Try 'Apple' and 'lawsuit' as keywords.
Perhaps fanboyism is a major part of their consumer market success. I've yet to see anything as nice as Final Cut Pro on Windows. Nothing from Avid, Pinnacle, or anyone else comes close. The color matching between a Mac with a good monitor and print output makes any Adobe or other graphics software a much better value proposition on a Mac than on a Windows PC. The stock sound system on a Mac is superior to what you get with most PCs. As a media creation workstation, I'd say a Mac is far superior to a Windows PC. It's no SGI, but it doesn't carry the even higher premium, either. The professional market might have a trickle-down effect to simple fanboys, but many home Mac customers also use one at the office.
I prefer Linux for my work, as I'm mostly kept busy as a software developer with choice of platform and Linux is very nice for that. I do most of my gaming on Windows, and my accountant uses Windows because our chosen software only works (well, anyway) there. I have two used Macs, one with Linux and one with OS X. The OS X one is around for when I need to do some intense graphics work, as that's the platform for that. Some of my simpler stuff gets done on Linux or Windows, but tougher graphics stuff is on a Mac or outsourced to someone. Most of the people to whom I outsource graphics work also use primarily Macs for that.
Browser that don't support the features... like Netscape 4? You do realize that Microsoft does not support IE 6, marked IE 7 as a critical update, and even pushed IE 7 out to unverified copies of Windows, don't you? Next you'll be wanting YouTube to work in lynx.
Funny. OpenSuse and KDE seem to be two examples, not one.
I submitted a bug to the GNU grep team, and their response was "It's fixed in CVS and it'll be in the next release".
I've submitted bug reports to Mozilla, and they've either been grouped with others as near-dupes or have been fixed eventually (none were show-stoppers).
I've submitted bug reports to many smaller projects, and mostly had to submit patches. This is because smaller projects have fewer resources.
I can't submit a patch to most closed-source projects. Not only is it much more difficult and time consuming to work on the object instead of the source, but most closed-source software companies like to sue people who reverse engineer their stuff.
I think that changing your threshold might refresh something that fixes the appearance. I don't think the specific problem of replies being misrepresented is caused by them being below my -1 threshold, though.
The 64-bit OS part is easy these days. It's better to hope that your hardware all has drivers for the 64-bit OS and that the games your running don't flail and crash on 64-bit OSes.
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... because now the pirates just say "aaahhh'.
Why use it for good when you can use it for awesome?
That's why if the truck needs to stop abruptly, the driver does so by turning sharply and launching the dish riders out into the snow.
Several of the updates to Leopard that Apple issues have to be hacked for people running the Psystar machines. Some people are saying that PsyStar is doing that hacking and redistributing the altered code to its customers. If they are indeed doing that, it's a fair deal more important than saying "I'm an Apple" in the firmware.
I think the trademark issues and damage to Apple's reputation are bigger winners for Apple, though.
So they're offering OS X consulting services? Big deal. I think the whole practice of using Apple's trademarks to damage Apple's reputation is a much bigger issue.
According to this California FAQ list about aftermarket auto parts, you can indeed replace an engine with another engine which is not the same, but it has to meet additional guidelines if it's not the identical replacement part.
Specifically:
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
* The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
* The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
* If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
* All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.
Actually, they weren't rolling their own hardware then, either. My G4 has a Foxconn motherboard. My friend's MacPro has a motherboard from guess who... Foxconn. Apple designs the spec and orders the hardware from companies that make hardware.
GM doesn't make brake lines, either, and I'll bet that the guy who poured my driveway didn't mine the gravel. Companies buy manufactured goods and assemble them all the time.
The problems Apple had with the PowerPC were not problems with building the boards. The G5 (which was fabbed for Apple by IBM) was never cool enough to run in a laptop. There were often shortages of the Power/PowerPC platform due partly to small fab runs and high fault rates. IBM was also using some of the same chips in their own hardware and was rumored to be favoring themselves over Apple for the chips that were manufactured successfully when there were shortages.
The switch to Intel was to find a vendor who had sufficient fab capacity and a strong enough process to meet the availability and design specs Apple needed.
EULAs have been tested in court. Some have not passed that test, though. Google "EULA court case".
I'd say that's definitely a derivative work, and that if they're calling it Leopard or an Apple product with modified code in it that they're violating the trademarks, too. IANAL, though. That's why someone else is in the courts and we're here jabbering about it like the football fans are talking about Favre's retirement.
I don't see where the person to whom you are responding said Jobs just wants to make cool stuff and doesn't also want to make money. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I think the point was that Jobs prefers to make his money by making cool stuff, whereas Gates never really made anything "cool" (except for Expedia, which MS spun off, and OS/2, which they smothered with a pillow).
By buying a Mac for OS X, they're likely buying it for the reliability and the predictability of the Apple experience across multiple Macs. That's something that is possible for Apple to offer over Microsoft specifically because the hardware configurations, preloaded software (Dell OEM add-on hell, anyone), and such are so closely controlled.
If Apple was dealing with multiple bargain-basement PC configurations, multiple OEMs installing random crapware, and the OEMs providing non-uniform tech support (Apple supports Apple, everyone supports MS), then OS X wouldn't be what it is.
Buying a Mac for what you get with OS X is more of a package deal than most people realize. It's not just that Apple doesn't want to split up that package, but that they'd have a hard time doing so while maintaining the advantages OS X offers.
I'd argue that by doing what Microsoft does and dealing with the problems Microsoft has, Apple would be losing the promise of a seamless experience that differentiates them from Microsoft in the first place. If they're in the same shrink-wrap market as Microsoft and can't do it better than Microsoft, then they'd probably be crushed under heel (or by a flying chair). Apple's practice of being particular about integrating the hardware and software is what makes their segment exist.
The really funny thing is that OS X has really nice drivers for my scroll mouse, yet people complain that the only mouse they can use on a Mac is an Apple mouse. Any USB scroll mouse I've ever plugged into my G4 Mac just worked. Even a PS/2 mouse through an adapter or PS/2 to USB KVM has worked right away. If you don't like the Apple mice, don't use them.
Well, it's all specified by Apple. You don't see too many places to buy EFI-based Xeon motherboards off the shelf. Most PC companies don't manufacture their own motherboards, either.
To be fair, not everyone would opt for Xeons when building, so if you went with 2.83 Ghz Core 2 Quads instead it'd only be $1100 for the processors. I think that's still safe to consider comparable. Damn if you can find a dual-socket LGA 775 motherboard, though, so it's back to Xeons.
So, $1400 for processors and at least $224 for a dual-socket LGA 771 motherboard. 2 GB of DDR2-800 we can get from NewEgg for $40. A 320 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s drive is $65. A Radeon 2600 XT with 256 MB is $67. $24 nets us a 20x dual-layer DVD burner. Let's say you can get a mouse and keyboard for $15 that you can actually stand to use for a day.
So that's $1835 without a case or power supply. Surely someone was missing some parts or was full of shit.
Well, maybe, but then it'd be the iTax, wouldn't it? Or maybe the iTribute. Macs are often worth the sometimes higher price if you need what Apple provides, but they do sometimes gouge a little in the margin.
Actually, while your sentiment is right the direction is often the opposite. Lincoln, with its higher margins and lower market share, is where much of the development is done. The components that are developed for the luxury models which work well are then modified to be cheaper to produce and put into larger runs for Fords.
The tech rolls downhill because if you're going to have a recall, you'd rather have fewer parts to replace on cars that you made more initial profit selling. You never want more parts recalled on slimmer margins.
IANAL, but a cease-and-desist order was probably the first step rather than a way to work out a licensing agreement. That is probably sufficient for minimizing damages, too, since if PsyStar stopped doing what they'd been asked to stop doing, the damages would stop mounting.
Very funny, wikifool. If you're part of the culture at all, you know Apple sued Microsoft over "look and feel" that they stole from Xerox. I'd call that not being afraid to use their lawyers.
I would give a link for that, but since you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by WikiMedia into thinking widely-known facts have to be vetted against random sites by random cites, I'll just let you know that GIYF. Try 'Apple' and 'lawsuit' as keywords.
Perhaps fanboyism is a major part of their consumer market success. I've yet to see anything as nice as Final Cut Pro on Windows. Nothing from Avid, Pinnacle, or anyone else comes close. The color matching between a Mac with a good monitor and print output makes any Adobe or other graphics software a much better value proposition on a Mac than on a Windows PC. The stock sound system on a Mac is superior to what you get with most PCs. As a media creation workstation, I'd say a Mac is far superior to a Windows PC. It's no SGI, but it doesn't carry the even higher premium, either. The professional market might have a trickle-down effect to simple fanboys, but many home Mac customers also use one at the office.
I prefer Linux for my work, as I'm mostly kept busy as a software developer with choice of platform and Linux is very nice for that. I do most of my gaming on Windows, and my accountant uses Windows because our chosen software only works (well, anyway) there. I have two used Macs, one with Linux and one with OS X. The OS X one is around for when I need to do some intense graphics work, as that's the platform for that. Some of my simpler stuff gets done on Linux or Windows, but tougher graphics stuff is on a Mac or outsourced to someone. Most of the people to whom I outsource graphics work also use primarily Macs for that.
Browser that don't support the features... like Netscape 4? You do realize that Microsoft does not support IE 6, marked IE 7 as a critical update, and even pushed IE 7 out to unverified copies of Windows, don't you? Next you'll be wanting YouTube to work in lynx.
Or at least not stripping the approved HTML entities people bother to put in manually...
Funny. OpenSuse and KDE seem to be two examples, not one.
I submitted a bug to the GNU grep team, and their response was "It's fixed in CVS and it'll be in the next release".
I've submitted bug reports to Mozilla, and they've either been grouped with others as near-dupes or have been fixed eventually (none were show-stoppers).
I've submitted bug reports to many smaller projects, and mostly had to submit patches. This is because smaller projects have fewer resources.
I can't submit a patch to most closed-source projects. Not only is it much more difficult and time consuming to work on the object instead of the source, but most closed-source software companies like to sue people who reverse engineer their stuff.
I think that changing your threshold might refresh something that fixes the appearance. I don't think the specific problem of replies being misrepresented is caused by them being below my -1 threshold, though.
The 64-bit OS part is easy these days. It's better to hope that your hardware all has drivers for the 64-bit OS and that the games your running don't flail and crash on 64-bit OSes.