Could someone please point out quite what is so good about AOL ? I work for a small internet company that is starting to get moving in the world, but in order to stop those from aol complaining we have to get an account ourselves to check out what the sites look like. It makes our lives such a hassle. Why do they have to do the micros~ and redifine the internet for their own capitalist needs ?
OK so it is a good thing that the (allegedly) simple controls are easy to use, but couldn't AOL at least *try* to explain that the internet is not owned by them ? I have read on many sites that people from AOL have attempted to report them to the "Internet Police" or the "Aol supervisors" for content which is not to their liking. For example "Joke a Day" at http://www.jokeaday.com is a site that features a free joke mailing list in which some of it's jokes are a little controversial. Some are about religian (but *all* religians are subjected to humiliation) some have rude words in. The signup letter shows clear instructions that state such jokes will be said. The guy running it has a letters page from those who write in... guess who complain the most ? Please understand that I am no way affiliated with this site... but take a look for true evidence.
So, to get to the point, AOL *PLEASE* start to get your act together and share a little. Free software is great and as such I am running Linux, but at the end of the day we all need to be fed. Therefore is it too much to ask for a decent service for these people that can point out the relevant infomation as stated above ? I am English so I don't know about elsewhere, but many ISPs websites have a brief guide to netiquette stating the simple request of being polite...
OK then, how do you explain how black holes exist ? Physics certainly does not work at the best of times... just think the actualy process of conception in it's minutist detail is still not understood.
Think of philosophy. What is a human soul ? Is this world an elaborate conception a la The Matrix ? Who can tell. *IF* you exist you may ask yourself the same question... on the other hand you may not and this entire world is a lonely planet...
So the maxim goes... by the vast amounts of posts here you are obviously in a minority. Who cares whethere or not it's techy ? I and the 1000+ posters on this one topic don't appear to each other.
Stuff that matters. Does this topic not particullaly matter or are you to remain ignorant for the rest of your life ?
Please somebody tell me that the Teletubbies havn't invaded computer jargon...
More to the point, which inspiring person came up with theses names... kibibytes... OK computer jargon doesn't sound good at the best of times but even so... kibibytes... kiddybites, the new, tasty snack from Haribo...
Why not invent a new word from bytes ? I'm not known for my imagination, but woulnd't something like kilobets or kilobats (going along the lines of B-i-T-s B-y-T-e-s...
I personally havn't seen the advert, but going by the CNN description the bloke must be pretty stupid to do it in which cash he should be forgiven. However in recent years the stupidity of people is getting, ironically, stupid.
For example, do we really need to be told that food cooked in the microwave is going to be hot... doesn't the definitipon of cooking imply that ?
Warning : Do not use hairdryer in shower.
Warning : Do not insert fingers into blender.
How more times do we have to put up with these phrases ? Whilst I do not consider myself to be of a superior intelligence I can figure out the odd maths question and write essays... averaged school stuff you might say.
However lets assume that this man is not of the stupid variety. Instead he has maken a bit of money and thinks that he has seen a golden oppertunity to make more. How ? Sue Pepsi for non-delivery of an advertised product. Mmm it could work, couln'd it ? And it would certainly help out with the bank loan.
So perhaps the question should change from "Why do we have to put up with stupid people (that sounds nasty... sorry;)" to "Why should the greedy, money-grabbing man make life worse for us"
Warning : Do not use hairdryer in shower, because we know if you do then you will sue us (or maybe your family... *doh*) for lots and lots of money and we won't have a leg to stand on.
I read a while back about a man who had drunk so much at a bar that he fell of his stool and broke his pelvis, also severing the bottom part of his spinal column. He was left paralysed from the waist down. However, he took the nasty, evil, money making bar landlord to court because it certainly wasn't his own fault that he had drunk too much. Oh no, the barman has in fact *forced* him to keep drinking. He tried to go but couldn't. Ok I'm attempting to drip a little sarcasm in, but the paralysed man won the case.
Excuse me ? Netscape is no more ? You what ? Name the number one browser on Linux... hmm... lynx or Netscape... I'd believe it is Netscape. A lot of people still use Netscape... not nearly as many that use IE but still a significant proportion. I'm sure that once Netscape 5 is released things will start to look up for them.
Just for all the transatlantic people reading this I would like to point out that the UK has had free internet access for quite a while now, and it does work. Well.
I have a paid account with Demon Internet and a free one from the largest free isp, Freeserve. Sometimes Demon is faster, sometimes Freeserver, but c'est la vie.
Currently, everyone is setting up free access... even football teams...
The only problem is that here we have to pay for all our phone bills and a local call comes in at 5p/min peak, 1.5p/min off-peak... not much but if you're a heavy user it can add up.
Now, if I were Microsoft, wouldn't an 0800 advert-funded isp be the way to go ahed ? I know that no matter how fast/slow the connection, I would be willing to leave a robot downloading pages overnight...
So, a challenge for Microsoft perhaps. Give us freephone access to the internet along with a free acount and we'll start to like you more. Fair ? Well maybe we can start listening to what you say every once in a while... just maybe.
Microsoft tried with MSN and -lets face it- failed miserably. But hey, that doesn't matter, because we're Microsoft and I'm sure if we chuck some more money at the problem it will soon go away...
Well I must admit that the excuse on the weather is about one notch up on BR's "Wrong type of leaves on the line" excuses...
However, I for one am glad that two of the main news site (for me anyway) have picked up the story and publically denounced. What did Microsoft honestly expect ? A wave of applause and motivation from possibly the most anti-Micros~ group of people ? They chose to ignore the fact that crackers have previously ignored high-profile offers from the media, even with an incentive. Surely the whole point of cracking is for the thrill and the fun of being able to get in ? I wouldn't know, of course, but being paid for it is more likely to make it a chore.
What are the odds that come the press release -
"Windows 2000 stood up to x hackers trying to hack the system blah blah blah"
At last it looks as if Linux (#15) has beaten Window~1 (#17)... and all's fair in love and war. Great these surveys, arn't they ?
Ok I lied. Personally I don't see quite what the point of "Who's the best person in the world ever blah blah " surveys. Whilst in the computing field Linux and Windows (not forgetting the others such as MacOS) have made a significant difference... but how does that compare to the literature of authors ? How can it compare to the musical geniouses that are now around ? Simply. They cannot be compared. Ever had that algebra lesson trying to add apples to pears ? Well, there you have it.
Well I say that the spammers in question deserve everything that they got. It may be a fair bit of money for a relativly small task, but spam is the bane of my email... to the point that I have now started to get mail in spanish to my.co.uk address. Typical.
Hopefully more cases like this will appear and the fines will go up and up - it's the only way to make the spammers stop.
Here's waiting for the day when a cheque for £100,000 comes through for emotional distress... Spanish email really hurts, especially when you don't speak the lingo...
Lets face it that the Communist vs. Capitalist fights have never been well known for their truthful aspects - just look at the Cuban missile crisis which was just a publicity stunt, so to speak.
So... is this fact or is it fiction... *ONE* attack seems to originate from a police station... could it be that there's a Chinese police officer who isn't exactly on terms with the US ? Surely not ! Perish the very thought !
I really do doubt that the Chinese Government would act in this way... do they not realise that the US would strike back ? OK, you may not read that the US is now attempting to hack Chinese machines, but what do you know ? Chinese newspapers will probably be full of stories stating how the Capitalists have tried to deny the Peoples Republic of internet rights and the like... but truth in these times is a rare commodity.
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Whilst the point you are making was not argued, the stuff about knowing your email address and the like is rubbish... the *only* things that are sent when you contact a page are such things are what browser you are using, what page you requested, what OS, your ip address and the like. Yes, they can find out your ISP from your ip address (have you ever done a traceroute ?) but that's no problem... just sign up from a library computer to one of the free isps that is quite happy to allow Mr A B from CDE to have an account.
I run an atari emulation web site. It's not exactly 'good' but it serves its purpose. On the site there is a large of collection of various files. Now whilst I wouldn't mind someone linking to my site, if they were to link to the files directly then that would get to me. Bandwidth would be taken up, and the whole point of running a web site would slowly diminish.
So, if a web site on a slow line links to another site for various downloads, then the slow site is in the wrong... why not ask the webmaster of the fast site if it's alright to do so in the first place ? If they say no then count your losses and link to the main site. Is that too much to ask ?
Nope, you've lost in a big way... and going by the way you take delight in doing so, I would say this must sum up your whole life... "I dream of being a first-poster on Slashdot... perhaps I'll get a friend then... I might even go out..."
Excuse me ? Dave Brubeck pushed the bounderies of jazz ? I'm sorry but that's frankly that's crap. Whilst being a fan of Brubeck's writings, the only innovation done was in the form of his rhythms and emphasis on the beats, but this came mostly from Paul Desmond who started with "Take Five" and then carried on to inspire Brubeck. When the band split, Brubeck went to classical composition... it's only been in the mid-nineties that he has completed a few reunion tours with the rest of the band.
A point that I feel may be relevant. I am not with the ISP in question, and I am not the person in question.
It is a fair point that at the end of the day, there's always going to be someone who's going to stop your site being shown... I bet China and North Korea would *love* to have a piece of software to filter out democractic sites... bye bye Slashdot;-)
Anyway, considering that this is a business that aims to make money (and not via the sex trade) I think that he has a right to compain when one of his potential customers cannot access his site. A customer in the flesh is worth two on the phone...
Slashdot Mirror
Hey all,
I'm sorry to inform you that I have now copyrighted the word "Internet" (c) in all shapes and forms.
Hereby each use of the word in question will be charged a standard rate of £5.
"Internet" and all its derivatives (c) The Jazzmann 1999.
Hey all,
Could someone please point out quite what is so good about AOL ? I work for a small internet company that is starting to get moving in the world, but in order to stop those from aol complaining we have to get an account ourselves to check out what the sites look like. It makes our lives such a hassle. Why do they have to do the micros~ and redifine the internet for their own capitalist needs ?
OK so it is a good thing that the (allegedly) simple controls are easy to use, but couldn't AOL at least *try* to explain that the internet is not owned by them ? I have read on many sites that people from AOL have attempted to report them to the "Internet Police" or the "Aol supervisors" for content which is not to their liking. For example "Joke a Day" at http://www.jokeaday.com is a site that features a free joke mailing list in which some of it's jokes are a little controversial. Some are about religian (but *all* religians are subjected to humiliation) some have rude words in. The signup letter shows clear instructions that state such jokes will be said. The guy running it has a letters page from those who write in... guess who complain the most ? Please understand that I am no way affiliated with this site... but take a look for true evidence.
So, to get to the point, AOL *PLEASE* start to get your act together and share a little. Free software is great and as such I am running Linux, but at the end of the day we all need to be fed. Therefore is it too much to ask for a decent service for these people that can point out the relevant infomation as stated above ? I am English so I don't know about elsewhere, but many ISPs websites have a brief guide to netiquette stating the simple request of being polite...
is it really too much to ask ?
OK then, how do you explain how black holes exist ? Physics certainly does not work at the best of times... just think the actualy process of conception in it's minutist detail is still not understood.
Think of philosophy. What is a human soul ? Is this world an elaborate conception a la The Matrix ? Who can tell. *IF* you exist you may ask yourself the same question... on the other hand you may not and this entire world is a lonely planet...
Slashdot. News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
So the maxim goes... by the vast amounts of posts here you are obviously in a minority. Who cares whethere or not it's techy ? I and the 1000+ posters on this one topic don't appear to each other.
Stuff that matters. Does this topic not particullaly matter or are you to remain ignorant for the rest of your life ?
Please somebody tell me that the Teletubbies havn't invaded computer jargon...
More to the point, which inspiring person came up with theses names... kibibytes... OK computer jargon doesn't sound good at the best of times but even so... kibibytes... kiddybites, the new, tasty snack from Haribo...
Why not invent a new word from bytes ? I'm not known for my imagination, but woulnd't something like kilobets or kilobats (going along the lines of B-i-T-s B-y-T-e-s...
Hey all,
;)" to "Why should the greedy, money-grabbing man make life worse for us"
I personally havn't seen the advert, but going by the CNN description the bloke must be pretty stupid to do it in which cash he should be forgiven. However in recent years the stupidity of people is getting, ironically, stupid.
For example, do we really need to be told that food cooked in the microwave is going to be hot... doesn't the definitipon of cooking imply that ?
Warning : Do not use hairdryer in shower.
Warning : Do not insert fingers into blender.
How more times do we have to put up with these phrases ? Whilst I do not consider myself to be of a superior intelligence I can figure out the odd maths question and write essays... averaged school stuff you might say.
However lets assume that this man is not of the stupid variety. Instead he has maken a bit of money and thinks that he has seen a golden oppertunity to make more. How ? Sue Pepsi for non-delivery of an advertised product. Mmm it could work, couln'd it ? And it would certainly help out with the bank loan.
So perhaps the question should change from "Why do we have to put up with stupid people (that sounds nasty... sorry
Warning : Do not use hairdryer in shower, because we know if you do then you will sue us (or maybe your family... *doh*) for lots and lots of money and we won't have a leg to stand on.
I read a while back about a man who had drunk so much at a bar that he fell of his stool and broke his pelvis, also severing the bottom part of his spinal column. He was left paralysed from the waist down. However, he took the nasty, evil, money making bar landlord to court because it certainly wasn't his own fault that he had drunk too much. Oh no, the barman has in fact *forced* him to keep drinking. He tried to go but couldn't.
Ok I'm attempting to drip a little sarcasm in, but the paralysed man won the case.
What kind of a world does this mean we live in ?
Now that Netscape is no more
Excuse me ? Netscape is no more ? You what ? Name the number one browser on Linux... hmm... lynx or Netscape... I'd believe it is Netscape. A lot of people still use Netscape... not nearly as many that use IE but still a significant proportion. I'm sure that once Netscape 5 is released things will start to look up for them.
Hey all,
Just for all the transatlantic people reading this I would like to point out that the UK has had free internet access for quite a while now, and it does work. Well.
I have a paid account with Demon Internet and a free one from the largest free isp, Freeserve. Sometimes Demon is faster, sometimes Freeserver, but c'est la vie.
Currently, everyone is setting up free access... even football teams...
The only problem is that here we have to pay for all our phone bills and a local call comes in at 5p/min peak, 1.5p/min off-peak... not much but if you're a heavy user it can add up.
Now, if I were Microsoft, wouldn't an 0800 advert-funded isp be the way to go ahed ? I know that no matter how fast/slow the connection, I would be willing to leave a robot downloading pages overnight...
So, a challenge for Microsoft perhaps. Give us freephone access to the internet along with a free acount and we'll start to like you more. Fair ? Well maybe we can start listening to what you say every once in a while... just maybe.
Hey all,
Short but sweet :
Microsoft tried with MSN and -lets face it- failed miserably. But hey, that doesn't matter, because we're Microsoft and I'm sure if we chuck some more money at the problem it will soon go away...
Hey all,
Well I must admit that the excuse on the weather is about one notch up on BR's "Wrong type of leaves on the line" excuses...
However, I for one am glad that two of the main news site (for me anyway) have picked up the story and publically denounced. What did Microsoft honestly expect ? A wave of applause and motivation from possibly the most anti-Micros~ group of people ? They chose to ignore the fact that crackers have previously ignored high-profile offers from the media, even with an incentive. Surely the whole point of cracking is for the thrill and the fun of being able to get in ? I wouldn't know, of course, but being paid for it is more likely to make it a chore.
What are the odds that come the press release -
"Windows 2000 stood up to x hackers trying to hack the system blah blah blah"
Just as well I really ment it then. honest.
Hey all,
At last it looks as if Linux (#15) has beaten Window~1 (#17)... and all's fair in love and war. Great these surveys, arn't they ?
Ok I lied. Personally I don't see quite what the point of "Who's the best person in the world ever blah blah " surveys. Whilst in the computing field Linux and Windows (not forgetting the others such as MacOS) have made a significant difference... but how does that compare to the literature of authors ? How can it compare to the musical geniouses that are now around ? Simply. They cannot be compared. Ever had that algebra lesson trying to add apples to pears ? Well, there you have it.
Well I say that the spammers in question deserve everything that they got. It may be a fair bit of money for a relativly small task, but spam is the bane of my email... to the point that I have now started to get mail in spanish to my .co.uk address. Typical.
Hopefully more cases like this will appear and the fines will go up and up - it's the only way to make the spammers stop.
Here's waiting for the day when a cheque for £100,000 comes through for emotional distress... Spanish email really hurts, especially when you don't speak the lingo...
Lets face it that the Communist vs. Capitalist fights have never been well known for their truthful aspects - just look at the Cuban missile crisis which was just a publicity stunt, so to speak.
So... is this fact or is it fiction... *ONE* attack seems to originate from a police station... could it be that there's a Chinese police officer who isn't exactly on terms with the US ? Surely not ! Perish the very thought !
I really do doubt that the Chinese Government would act in this way... do they not realise that the US would strike back ? OK, you may not read that the US is now attempting to hack Chinese machines, but what do you know ? Chinese newspapers will probably be full of stories stating how the Capitalists have tried to deny the Peoples Republic of internet rights and the like... but truth in these times is a rare commodity.
hear hear.
No, what's the point of having a site other than for my own personal satisfaction at 'doing a good job' ? (or bad in this case ;-)
Whilst the point you are making was not argued, the stuff about knowing your email address and the like is rubbish... the *only* things that are sent when you contact a page are such things are what browser you are using, what page you requested, what OS, your ip address and the like. Yes, they can find out your ISP from your ip address (have you ever done a traceroute ?) but that's no problem... just sign up from a library computer to one of the free isps that is quite happy to allow Mr A B from CDE to have an account.
Fair point. From this day forth I shall duly ignore all first posters...
Society has no obligation to make it easier for you to be a web publisher.
Fair point. If I wasn't so lazy then I would write an anti-leeching script... as it is I doubt I will for another few months, such is life.
It would be nice if we did live in a perfect world where everything was sunshine and bunny rabbits, but unfortunatly it isn't...
Hey all,
I run an atari emulation web site. It's not exactly 'good' but it serves its purpose. On the site there is a large of collection of various files. Now whilst I wouldn't mind someone linking to my site, if they were to link to the files directly then that would get to me. Bandwidth would be taken up, and the whole point of running a web site would slowly diminish.
So, if a web site on a slow line links to another site for various downloads, then the slow site is in the wrong... why not ask the webmaster of the fast site if it's alright to do so in the first place ? If they say no then count your losses and link to the main site. Is that too much to ask ?
Nope, you've lost in a big way... and going by the way you take delight in doing so, I would say this must sum up your whole life... "I dream of being a first-poster on Slashdot... perhaps I'll get a friend then... I might even go out..."
Nope, second...
When will you sad, pathetic, "Look at me, I'm a first-poster" kiddies finally get a life ? You server no purpose but to annoy....
To keep on-topic, perhaps if we are watched by the various American agencies they could at least put an end to the sorry individuals such as below...
I think we should accept it now - our privacy is slowly eroding and will soon be a thing of the past... paranoid ? Not if they really are after you...
Excuse me ? Dave Brubeck pushed the bounderies of jazz ? I'm sorry but that's frankly that's crap. Whilst being a fan of Brubeck's writings, the only innovation done was in the form of his rhythms and emphasis on the beats, but this came mostly from Paul Desmond who started with "Take Five" and then carried on to inspire Brubeck. When the band split, Brubeck went to classical composition... it's only been in the mid-nineties that he has completed a few reunion tours with the rest of the band.
A point that I feel may be relevant. I am not with the ISP in question, and I am not the person in question.
;-)
It is a fair point that at the end of the day, there's always going to be someone who's going to stop your site being shown... I bet China and North Korea would *love* to have a piece of software to filter out democractic sites... bye bye Slashdot
Anyway, considering that this is a business that aims to make money (and not via the sex trade) I think that he has a right to compain when one of his potential customers cannot access his site. A customer in the flesh is worth two on the phone...