If the ISP knew that legit sites were being blocked and chose not to tell their customers (*Business* customers), then why is it not their fault. They have an obligation to deliver the goods. The only reason they didn't is the fact that they knew if they did, then they would loose money from corporations wanting web site hostings.
As per usual it is "Money first, sod the customer".
Please read what he is actually saying... he's not in his post John talks about the fact that HIS ISP DID NOT TELL HIM THAT SITES WERE BLOCKED, *EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW*. Sorry for the capitals, but that way you might actually read the main sentance of this post.
Doesn't this remind you of the old school phrase "Don't let one person ruin it for you all" ? It's a shame that the phrase rings so true here. Thankfully, according to the finger, no harm has been done, but it just goes to show that at the end of the day there are always people out there to harm.
The user in question said that he did it to prove it could be done. Whilst this is the main point of the hacker ethic (as in the true meaning), why did he/she/it decide to actually use the thing ? He could have posted it to distributed net with a little explanation highlighting the weaknesses and thus helping them out no end, I'm sure... although perhaps I wrong...
I personally *adore* writing letters... whilst email is quick and easy (and interesting getting mails from people you'll never meet...), written letters are so much more personal. When writing, I generally spend a lot more time on it than with email, and generally the letters are longer too...even though it's a thrice-weekly experience.
I still feel the same even though my handwriting is worse than a doctors, and I'm young... 17 in fact.
I asked this same question when it was announced that GD would no longer be able to support GIFs.
Rasmus, *the* PHP bloke, replied that it will still be supported because people use it, and most importantly, the fact that PHP is not distributing GD therefore there is no legal case against them. Nice !
It increases maintenance costs tremendously-- there is no division between user interface and application logic!
So what ? Generally I use html with php included at the relevant points.
To define a php area of code, the to close. Anything else is not parsed ( OK other tags, but lets not complicate things here).
You can do clever stuff such as
A bit of HTML
Generally, yes I think you are missing somthing - don't diss it until you've at least tried it. It doesn't take long to set up (about 45 mins on Linux, about fifty on windows) and I guarantee you won't feel the same a week from now if you try it now.
eight ball rules... honest mother
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Is it me or has anyone else become addicted to the magic 8 ball ? The way it seems to be able to predict the right answer with a simple 'yes', 'no', or the occaisional 'maybe'... it's just too good...
Is there really any point to these 'beasts' ? I know that there are reasons to encrypt data, and that MI5 sand-blast their hard drives after use, but surely there must be a limit...
Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but what *precisly* is funny about this site ? Feck all I would put as an appropriate term.
I'm sorry, but I did go to the site with an open mind, raised an eyebrow at the Hashsnot logo and then the journey to huge disapointment began.
Is it not fair to say that if you are simply not funny, *please* don't got to the lengths of trying to be... least of all in such a blantent manner.
One final bit of advice - The writer of this 'paordy' seems to realise the values that some of the./ crowd take, for example about clueless newbies... but rather than just stating that, couldn't s/he have done something with it ? I'm hardly a world class comedian, so I'll decline the option to... just like this person should have.
Well, this may be an alleged parody, but surely the site in question has to be remotely funny in the first place to be classed as such ? Please don't get me wrong - I cliked on the link ready for a quick chuckle... and about thirty seconds later I relised that it just wasn't going to happend. I eventually read the whole site and felt I had to put down the owner of the site. Please, never ever ever try to be remotely funny again - it just doesn't work...
So let me see... this means that all those new people coming to the wonderful language of PHP (http://www.php.net) can no longer create graphics because the file type was patented...
Does this meant that future releases of php will have to drop the gif creation functions as well... I sincerly hope not, as they were *very* useful and at the same time effective and quick.
I think that I like this... although there is one drawback... when one is in an inebreated state in a pub and one of your mates says that they're off the case machine, how are you going to get them to get a tenner out - write a promise or something ?
I don't see what the problem is with this. Everyone seems to be saying "It's so unfair" and the like. Surely if *you* were going on the *first* flight to the moon, you would realise that if something went wrong, not a lot could be done for you. Common sense, surely.
Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it wrong.
By the way, does anyone have the URL of the original memo ?
Yay, BO2K means that at last I will be able to 'remotely administer' my college's NT network... heheh... no seriously, though, anyone who was caught out last time deserves what they get. Too many people are happy to download something and run it only to find out it's a hard-disk trashing virus, or one which goes on to mail itself to every man and his dog. The worst part is that this gets blamed on every hacker the world over. WHY ?!?! IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR DOWNLOADING THE FSCKING THING IN THE FIRST PLACE !!! GET A LIFE AND STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN FAULTS... either that or you need some better friends...
Here's my short story version... try to read the original if you can.
Winston Smith is an average worker for the Outer Party. At this time in history (about 1984 - no one knows for sure) the country is split into three groups - the inner party at the top, outer party at the middle, and the Proles at the bottom.
The Party, whoose figurehead is Big Brother, controls everything and everyone, and anyone that doesn't conform in arrested by the thought police and 'cured' before they are arrested. No heretics or heroes exist here. The thought police monitor the people via telescreens, TV's that can see what you are doing and can hear sensitivly enough for your heartbeat to become aparent. Hidden microphones in other areas are also in use.
The world is split into three powers - Eurasia, Eastasia, and Oceania of which England is a member, except England has become Airstrip 1. At any poing in time Oceana is at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia, but according to the history books and papers (which Winston helps to doctor, or 'correct' as the party puts it) Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia/Eastasia.
Now, Winston realises that the party is a farce and goes about trying to see what he can do about it. The decisive moment comes when he holds a piece of The Times newspaper that contracdicts another issue of the same day in the complete opposite sense. Thus Winston tries to see a way in which the party can be undermined.
Eventually a girl, Julia, passes him a note in a hallway telling him that she loves him. They arrange to meet, and it soon becomes apparent that Julia is also against the party, but only in the aspects that involve her, eg that the party forces her to work 80+ hours one week, whereas she doesn't care that The Party didn't invent aeroplanes as she was taught in school.
There is a man, O'Brian, who Winston dreams about meeting with the words "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness". Seven years later, they do in fact meet, and they discuss how to undermine the party through "The Brotherhood" and the teachings of The Party's arch-nemesis, Goldstein. Winston and Julia both agree to various terms, including to lay down their lives...
As it is the two of them eventually get caught after making love and sleeping through to the next morning (I should mention that by now the 24 hour clock has been standardised). They are arrested by the thought police and taken to the Ministry of Love, beforehand being seperated. There are no Windows in the Ministry of Love (MiniLuv) and eventually Winston meets O'Brian who it turns out never was a member of "The Brotherhood". Winston is now in the place of no darkness and is not happy about it. Eventually he is taken to room 101 which is the room where everyone's most frightening nightmare is. In Winston's case it is rats.
Eventually after being cured, Winston is released and given a highly paid job for which he does in effect no work. He spends his time in a rejects cafe where those who have been arrested tend to hang out, waiting to be eliminated by the party. Soon a news bulliten comes on telling the country that The Party has just won the latest battle... and tears come to Winston's eyes and he relises that he *does* love big brother.
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I know that this is a pretty lame attempt and doesn't even start on the satire or the newspeak dictionarys, but hey, quick version....
Slashdot Mirror
I was not saying that it is under their control. Knowing about such facts and choosing not to disclose them is what I am talking about.
You're right that it is not up to them who blacklists their sites. I never argued that point.
If the ISP knew that legit sites were being blocked and chose not to tell their customers (*Business* customers), then why is it not their fault. They have an obligation to deliver the goods. The only reason they didn't is the fact that they knew if they did, then they would loose money from corporations wanting web site hostings.
As per usual it is "Money first, sod the customer".
Please read what he is actually saying... he's not in his post John talks about the fact that HIS ISP DID NOT TELL HIM THAT SITES WERE BLOCKED, *EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW*. Sorry for the capitals, but that way you might actually read the main sentance of this post.
Hey all,
Doesn't this remind you of the old school phrase "Don't let one person ruin it for you all" ? It's a shame that the phrase rings so true here. Thankfully, according to the finger, no harm has been done, but it just goes to show that at the end of the day there are always people out there to harm.
The user in question said that he did it to prove it could be done. Whilst this is the main point of the hacker ethic (as in the true meaning), why did he/she/it decide to actually use the thing ? He could have posted it to distributed net with a little explanation highlighting the weaknesses and thus helping them out no end, I'm sure... although perhaps I wrong...
Hey all,
I personally *adore* writing letters... whilst email is quick and easy (and interesting getting mails from people you'll never meet...), written letters are so much more personal. When writing, I generally spend a lot more time on it than with email, and generally the letters are longer too...even though it's a thrice-weekly experience.
I still feel the same even though my handwriting is worse than a doctors, and I'm young... 17 in fact.
I asked this same question when it was announced that GD would no longer be able to support GIFs.
Rasmus, *the* PHP bloke, replied that it will still be supported because people use it, and most importantly, the fact that PHP is not distributing GD therefore there is no legal case against them. Nice !
Lets try this again :
To define a php area of code, the . Anything else is not parsed ( OK other tags, but lets not complicatethings here).
You can do clever stuff such as
A bit of HTML
The html bit will only be shown if the if statement is met. Nice !
*doh*... that'll teach me to post without a preview ;-) :
To define a php area of code, the to close.
Anything else is not parsed ( OK other tags, but lets not complicate things here).
You can do clever stuff such as
A bit of HTML
And the bit of HTML will *only* be shown if the if statement is met. Nice !
It increases maintenance costs tremendously--
there is no division between user interface and application logic!
So what ? Generally I use html with php included at the relevant points.
To define a php area of code, the to close. Anything else is not parsed ( OK other tags, but lets not complicate things here).
You can do clever stuff such as
A bit of HTML
Generally, yes I think you are missing somthing - don't diss it until you've at least tried it. It doesn't take long to set up (about 45 mins on Linux, about fifty on windows) and I guarantee you won't feel the same a week from now if you try it now.
Miow...
Is it me or has anyone else become addicted to the magic 8 ball ? The way it seems to be able to predict the right answer with a simple 'yes', 'no', or the occaisional 'maybe'... it's just too good...
-"Does my life suck ?"
-"My sources point to no."
-"Will I get laid next week (;-)"
-"Yes"
*Brilliant*
Paranoia will destroy yah... honest, mum.
Is there really any point to these 'beasts' ? I know that there are reasons to encrypt data, and that MI5 sand-blast their hard drives after use, but surely there must be a limit...
NOOO !!! How could the evil ones blaspheme so upon our Holinous of The Kernel... I can only pray that such an event never happens again.
Is nothing sacred ?
Your point being ? I'm not certain, but it was probably seen in the paper (that is the one made out of) by someone in London and submitted.
>If it could happen, it would have happened billions of years ago
;-)
Perhaps it did... the Big Bang ring any bells
So perhaps all those Year 2000 conspirasists really do have a case...
It's the London issue of the Sunday Times.
Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but what *precisly* is funny about this site ? Feck all I would put as an appropriate term.
./ crowd take, for example about clueless newbies... but rather than just stating that, couldn't s/he have done something with it ? I'm hardly a world class comedian, so I'll decline the option to... just like this person should have.
I'm sorry, but I did go to the site with an open mind, raised an eyebrow at the Hashsnot logo and then the journey to huge disapointment began.
Is it not fair to say that if you are simply not funny, *please* don't got to the lengths of trying to be... least of all in such a blantent manner.
One final bit of advice - The writer of this 'paordy' seems to realise the values that some of the
Hey all,
Well, this may be an alleged parody, but surely the site in question has to be remotely funny in the first place to be classed as such ? Please don't get me wrong - I cliked on the link ready for a quick chuckle... and about thirty seconds later I relised that it just wasn't going to happend. I eventually read the whole site and felt I had to put down the owner of the site. Please, never ever ever try to be remotely funny again - it just doesn't work...
So let me see... this means that all those new people coming to the wonderful language of PHP (http://www.php.net) can no longer create graphics because the file type was patented...
Does this meant that future releases of php will have to drop the gif creation functions as well... I sincerly hope not, as they were *very* useful and at the same time effective and quick.
Damn shame IMHO.
Being a musicicen *and* a programer, I think this might just mean I can run up the stairs without getting out of breath...
Hey all,
I think that I like this... although there is one drawback... when one is in an inebreated state in a pub and one of your mates says that they're off the case machine, how are you going to get them to get a tenner out - write a promise or something ?
I don't see what the problem is with this. Everyone seems to be saying "It's so unfair" and the like. Surely if *you* were going on the *first* flight to the moon, you would realise that if something went wrong, not a lot could be done for you. Common sense, surely.
Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it wrong.
By the way, does anyone have the URL of the original memo ?
Yay, BO2K means that at last I will be able to 'remotely administer' my college's NT network... heheh... no seriously, though, anyone who was caught out last time deserves what they get. Too many people are happy to download something and run it only to find out it's a hard-disk trashing virus, or one which goes on to mail itself to every man and his dog. The worst part is that this gets blamed on every hacker the world over. WHY ?!?! IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR DOWNLOADING THE FSCKING THING IN THE FIRST PLACE !!! GET A LIFE AND STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN FAULTS... either that or you need some better friends...
Here's my short story version... try to read the original if you can.
....
Winston Smith is an average worker for the Outer Party. At this time in history (about 1984 - no one knows for sure) the country is split into three groups - the inner party at the top, outer party at the middle, and the Proles at the bottom.
The Party, whoose figurehead is Big Brother, controls everything and everyone, and anyone that doesn't conform in arrested by the thought police and 'cured' before they are arrested. No heretics or heroes exist here. The thought police monitor the people via telescreens, TV's that can see what you are doing and can hear sensitivly enough for your heartbeat to become aparent. Hidden microphones in other areas are also in use.
The world is split into three powers - Eurasia, Eastasia, and Oceania of which England is a member, except England has become Airstrip 1. At any poing in time Oceana is at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia, but according to the history books and papers (which Winston helps to doctor, or 'correct' as the party puts it) Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia/Eastasia.
Now, Winston realises that the party is a farce and goes about trying to see what he can do about it. The decisive moment comes when he holds a piece of The Times newspaper that contracdicts another issue of the same day in the complete opposite sense. Thus Winston tries to see a way in which the party can be undermined.
Eventually a girl, Julia, passes him a note in a hallway telling him that she loves him. They arrange to meet, and it soon becomes apparent that Julia is also against the party, but only in the aspects that involve her, eg that the party forces her to work 80+ hours one week, whereas she doesn't care that The Party didn't invent aeroplanes as she was taught in school.
There is a man, O'Brian, who Winston dreams about meeting with the words "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness". Seven years later, they do in fact meet, and they discuss how to undermine the party through "The Brotherhood" and the teachings of The Party's arch-nemesis, Goldstein. Winston and Julia both agree to various terms, including to lay down their lives...
As it is the two of them eventually get caught after making love and sleeping through to the next morning (I should mention that by now the 24 hour clock has been standardised). They are arrested by the thought police and taken to the Ministry of Love, beforehand being seperated. There are no Windows in the Ministry of Love (MiniLuv) and eventually Winston meets O'Brian who it turns out never was a member of "The Brotherhood". Winston is now in the place of no darkness and is not happy about it. Eventually he is taken to room 101 which is the room where everyone's most frightening nightmare is. In Winston's case it is rats.
Eventually after being cured, Winston is released and given a highly paid job for which he does in effect no work. He spends his time in a rejects cafe where those who have been arrested tend to hang out, waiting to be eliminated by the party. Soon a news bulliten comes on telling the country that The Party has just won the latest battle... and tears come to Winston's eyes and he relises that he *does* love big brother.
-------
I know that this is a pretty lame attempt and doesn't even start on the satire or the newspeak dictionarys, but hey, quick version