Wrong. When nearly all banking and bill paying is now done online (which the creditors push hard for), when corporations use the Internet for their communications for everything , it becomes a critical element to living. People can't live without money to buy to gas, electricity and food.
I don't see what purpose this could serve. LEOs already have CAD and radio communications to support each other, and usually a crime scene is cleared of onlookers, who could wind up getting in the way, or even hurt. They actually want civilians to get involved now? Then there's the very real possibility of BLM or cop haters rushing to the scene to get a pot shot in. I could see this being useful if an officer is missing, but for anything else, a real time fistfight or shootout, it seems like a dicey idea.
If you're outsourcing your IT, that's already true.
Good point. We don't outsource much, but I can't say we don't do it at all; we have vendors manage only a couple of many systems, but they're critical ones.
I started looking into that a little last week. Some higher-ups frequently flirt with the idea of going cloud at my workplace (not federal but still gov't), which given the nature of our work, gives most of us the willies - especially me since I'm the storage admin. Even if Amazon really has a new, more secure system (what's that say about their main cloud storage?), the fact remains that your data is no longer really in your hands, and will likely never be under your control again. OTOH, we constantly struggle with a crap budget, and a lack of space, lack of personnel, and equipment.
But that's the $64000 question: will congress step up to (re)enact net neutrality proper? Or sit on their laurels? As someone who typically votes republican, I have to admit it will probably be democrats who step up first, though I'd like to see a bipartisan bill. I do however, except someone to step up in congress, because the sponsor of that bill has "hero" written all over him to the people. What congress critter would want to pass up that kind of fame and PR?
Technically, the Internet was created for the military (DARPA), who have deep pockets. It was only later that it expanded from the military and the Universities that helped develop the protocols to public use. Not defending the FCC decision by any means, but that's the why of it's creation.
That's just it, there is no "elsewhere" for most US citizens. Most regions' ISPs are a virtual monopoly. Capitalism can't work as intended in that environment.
Just don't jump to conclusions that something is "bad" because it's discriminatory. When you start doing that, you become unreasonable.
Waaaay too late for that. Social Justice shall be avenged! I wonder why no one complains that not enough women are garbage collectors, mechanics, construction workers, or were subject to the draft during the Vietnam war though..
I've casually used Ubuntu post-systemd though not as a server, haven't seen the problem. Maybe it's there, maybe I just haven't run into it yet but...
Well there you go. It's not that it doesn't work, it's that it's overly complex and difficult to troubleshoot when you do have a problem, which is especially critical on a production server. You're only using it for a workstation. I have OpenSuSE Leap for my workstation, which is also Systemd, and it works for me as well, but I've kept all our servers at SLES11 and not SLES12 because 11 is still sysinit based and that's much more stable for our organization. I can almost guarantee my supervisors reasonably short troubleshooting outages; not just because I know it better, but also because it's structure is more simple to navigate. I'm holding out as long as I can, until Novell drops support for it. (In the meantime, I suppose I'll have to stand up a nonproduction SLES12 server just to start tinkering with systemd, for when that day inevitably comes).
It seems like an unfortunate choice of name in any case: all it will take is one public failure in it's deployment (if it gets around to that) and it'll forever be known as "CHUMP".
This. I learned to do that the hard way, after someone in Toyko charged my account $500 for a hotel room 3 years ago. So now I have a separate checking account which I keep nearly empty; I have it tied to the bank account via a MAC card rather than the account routing number, that's much easier to cancel and change my bank told me. Then when I want to buy something with Paypal, I log into my bank, do a quick transfer of just the funds that I need, and then make the purchase. This way, scammers are going to be trying to get blood from a stone unless they have miraculous timing.
I just saw this used on Penn & Teller's "Fool Us" last week; that's best looking money print gimmick I've ever seen. I had one in an Adams Magic Set when I was little but of course it was a rinky dinky plastic thing.
You can lose faith or trust in humans, but who creates and maintains the technology you've decided to trust instead?
It's a new missile sent by the bugs, they just missed with their first shot. Expect more incoming.
Why not use 'sic' to denote it's not a typo..? TM looks like Trademark to me.
Actually there were four or more if you count the animated Animatrix..
Wrong. When nearly all banking and bill paying is now done online (which the creditors push hard for), when corporations use the Internet for their communications for everything , it becomes a critical element to living. People can't live without money to buy to gas, electricity and food.
*Irish priests, m'lad.
I don't see what purpose this could serve. LEOs already have CAD and radio communications to support each other, and usually a crime scene is cleared of onlookers, who could wind up getting in the way, or even hurt. They actually want civilians to get involved now? Then there's the very real possibility of BLM or cop haters rushing to the scene to get a pot shot in.
I could see this being useful if an officer is missing, but for anything else, a real time fistfight or shootout, it seems like a dicey idea.
Only because the windings of Australian generator coils all go counter clockwise...
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If you're outsourcing your IT, that's already true.
Good point. We don't outsource much, but I can't say we don't do it at all; we have vendors manage only a couple of many systems, but they're critical ones.
I started looking into that a little last week. Some higher-ups frequently flirt with the idea of going cloud at my workplace (not federal but still gov't), which given the nature of our work, gives most of us the willies - especially me since I'm the storage admin. Even if Amazon really has a new, more secure system (what's that say about their main cloud storage?), the fact remains that your data is no longer really in your hands, and will likely never be under your control again. OTOH, we constantly struggle with a crap budget, and a lack of space, lack of personnel, and equipment.
Must we take it there? Politics in this place have already encroached into every discussion, relevant or not.
Humans weren't 7 times smaller back then. More likely this is a result of mass production, and demand.
But that's the $64000 question: will congress step up to (re)enact net neutrality proper? Or sit on their laurels? As someone who typically votes republican, I have to admit it will probably be democrats who step up first, though I'd like to see a bipartisan bill.
I do however, except someone to step up in congress, because the sponsor of that bill has "hero" written all over him to the people. What congress critter would want to pass up that kind of fame and PR?
Technically, the Internet was created for the military (DARPA), who have deep pockets. It was only later that it expanded from the military and the Universities that helped develop the protocols to public use. Not defending the FCC decision by any means, but that's the why of it's creation.
That's just it, there is no "elsewhere" for most US citizens. Most regions' ISPs are a virtual monopoly. Capitalism can't work as intended in that environment.
Hunhh? I don't know that! AAaaaiieeeeeee.....
Even if men pushed them out, they still "left". Who writes this stuff?
SJWs, obviously.
Just don't jump to conclusions that something is "bad" because it's discriminatory. When you start doing that, you become unreasonable.
Waaaay too late for that. Social Justice shall be avenged!
I wonder why no one complains that not enough women are garbage collectors, mechanics, construction workers, or were subject to the draft during the Vietnam war though..
I've casually used Ubuntu post-systemd though not as a server, haven't seen the problem. Maybe it's there, maybe I just haven't run into it yet but...
Well there you go. It's not that it doesn't work, it's that it's overly complex and difficult to troubleshoot when you do have a problem, which is especially critical on a production server.
You're only using it for a workstation. I have OpenSuSE Leap for my workstation, which is also Systemd, and it works for me as well, but I've kept all our servers at SLES11 and not SLES12 because 11 is still sysinit based and that's much more stable for our organization. I can almost guarantee my supervisors reasonably short troubleshooting outages; not just because I know it better, but also because it's structure is more simple to navigate.
I'm holding out as long as I can, until Novell drops support for it. (In the meantime, I suppose I'll have to stand up a nonproduction SLES12 server just to start tinkering with systemd, for when that day inevitably comes).
It seems like an unfortunate choice of name in any case: all it will take is one public failure in it's deployment (if it gets around to that) and it'll forever be known as "CHUMP".
It would likely be seen as a gift from the gods, if they saw it fall and tracked it down.. That would be the stuff of legend.
I have no sockpuppets, I'm actually happy I got an answer for a change. Thank you.
The arguments sound valid so far, I'll have to look into it.
Where is Slashdot and what have you done with it?!? ;)
This. I learned to do that the hard way, after someone in Toyko charged my account $500 for a hotel room 3 years ago.
So now I have a separate checking account which I keep nearly empty; I have it tied to the bank account via a MAC card rather than the account routing number, that's much easier to cancel and change my bank told me. Then when I want to buy something with Paypal, I log into my bank, do a quick transfer of just the funds that I need, and then make the purchase.
This way, scammers are going to be trying to get blood from a stone unless they have miraculous timing.
I just saw this used on Penn & Teller's "Fool Us" last week; that's best looking money print gimmick I've ever seen. I had one in an Adams Magic Set when I was little but of course it was a rinky dinky plastic thing.