Pharmacutical costs are mostly marketing and administration. Research costs are large when not placed in context, but consider how condensed the supply side is and then look at it as a pie chart of total costs.
Going to a movie is an event. Its more than the content, its the ambiance. Its part of dating tradition. Compare a fine restaurant to the doggie bag you take home. Which one gets you laid?
Way back when I first clued in I tried to download and install FreeBSD. When the install failed miserably, I downloaded and installed Debian. It worked. Took me a day to get Xwindows running. Took a couple days to get my sound working. But it worked. If that FreeBSD install hadn't crapped out 2/3s of the way through I'd be doing the FreeBSD thing now, I'm sure. Alot of it comes down to personal history and what we have spendt the time with to gain experience.
Sounds like you had a bad experience with authority, and that colored your impressions. Is there a reason why you thought you'd have any input as to liscensing a class assignment? You don't think you owned it, did you? I think everyone should make an informed decision and liscence their code as they see fit. You confuse me because while a student (for material submitted as homework) you don't own that code. Rather as if I tried to argue with Bill Gates about how to liscense windows.
(The listings were there to make the machine hacker-friendly.) The IBM publications were not "open source" by any means -- using IBM's ROM code would have required a licence.
Open source means the source is made available, not that one can use it without a licence. Open source != Free. The fact that IBM published the source is what makes it "open".
The only issue of anonymous information is whether any of that may have come from people who have signed NDAs. Trade secrets are like patents (covering ideas) but with copyright style rules for when they apply (if you rediscover it, someone's trade secret doesn't apply).
But then the people to sue are those who violate the NDA, yes? If you never signed an NDA and someone gives you the information (who is violating the NDA and hence could be sued) then aren't you clear to scream it from the rooftops?
Using a clean room is no guarentee that you are "clean". Its about patterns in the code. If you independently arrive at the same code you are screwed. Independence of discovery is no defense.
But is there a legal distinction? I can't see any. Unless one assumes that individuals are always only wanting to steal, and corporations are mature enough to want to stay within the bounds. Bullshit!
It doesn't matter what it says if the courts say that such a restriction is illegal. You can add a clause to the front of a book that states "transends fair use", or even "transends US Constitution". That doesn't mean it *does*.
Real art is like unto sacred. Its the "design" portrayed as "art" that gets me. I like a nice design and style is cool, but art is more than just looking cool.
I don't think individuals doing an Aqua theme are doing anything wrong. But I agree with you that its not the "skin", its the "Quartz rendering engine, the built-in transparency, the animations, how great the text looks, quicktime channels playing in the background", and BSD/Mach. And even G4s if they get to 1Ghz and are sold as quads. The floating pt. on those G4s and BSD/Mach had be thinking about an apple in my future. Look and feel? Its supposed to be *fun*...but thats not where I *work*.
Unless Apple wants to make skins illegal? Or user customizable skins? Since the themes *could* be used to make something look like something else, then it *might* be in conflict...
I wouldn't say that Apple is not innovating. My respect for Apple's hardware extends back to days of 68000 vs 8086. I also think this level of theming (sp?) has never been seen on MS systems. It too is truely innovative and deserving of respect. So who is deserving of litigation? The poor smuck who spendt the weekends in his home theming up an Apple look alike? Should a hobbiest be held accountable to the same levels as a competitor? Is Jobs really saying that any kid with a scripting sense of theming can make OSX out of windows?
Its not like a professional group here, though. Imagine if Sting tried to sue people who hummed his music on their way home from work. This is individual creation and use and sharing of a theme, for God's sake, not commercial distribution.
Everything you say is true. But if I went over to the other side of campus and used the Plastics Technology equipment and built a look alike for myself (with Athlon guts) I don't think Apple should have any rights to say my personal case is illegal or immoral. If I setup shop to produce them for market consumption thats different.
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No. You can find abstracts and layperson paraphrases, but the PhD level content is locked up and costs more than a mere grad student could spend.
Pharmacutical costs are mostly marketing and administration. Research costs are large when not placed in context, but consider how condensed the supply side is and then look at it as a pie chart of total costs.
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Can you say "Modern Enlightenment Period"? I knew you couldn't afford to...
Going to a movie is an event. Its more than the content, its the ambiance. Its part of dating tradition. Compare a fine restaurant to the doggie bag you take home. Which one gets you laid?
Way back when I first clued in I tried to download and install FreeBSD. When the install failed miserably, I downloaded and installed Debian. It worked. Took me a day to get Xwindows running. Took a couple days to get my sound working. But it worked. If that FreeBSD install hadn't crapped out 2/3s of the way through I'd be doing the FreeBSD thing now, I'm sure. Alot of it comes down to personal history and what we have spendt the time with to gain experience.
Does anybody really support the one button mouse? Why? Three buttons with the middle a scroll wheel is my prefered mouse.
"We" includes users. Its an inclusive community.
To say nothing of placing 16th out of the 16 industrialized nations in terms of basic literacy and math skills.
Sounds like you had a bad experience with authority, and that colored your impressions. Is there a reason why you thought you'd have any input as to liscensing a class assignment? You don't think you owned it, did you? I think everyone should make an informed decision and liscence their code as they see fit. You confuse me because while a student (for material submitted as homework) you don't own that code. Rather as if I tried to argue with Bill Gates about how to liscense windows.
It doesn't care if it's free or not.
Then why does everthing tend to a greater degree of entropy? The universe longs to be free.
(The listings were there to make the machine hacker-friendly.) The IBM publications were not "open source" by any means -- using IBM's ROM code would have required a licence.
Open source means the source is made available, not that one can use it without a licence. Open source != Free. The fact that IBM published the source is what makes it "open".
Since they had an open book with the original source code, that's not "reverse engineering," that's "re-engineering."
What you call "re-engineering" *is* reverse engineering.
The only issue of anonymous information is whether any of that may have come from people who have signed NDAs. Trade secrets are like patents (covering ideas) but with copyright style rules for when they apply (if you rediscover it, someone's trade secret doesn't apply).
But then the people to sue are those who violate the NDA, yes? If you never signed an NDA and someone gives you the information (who is violating the NDA and hence could be sued) then aren't you clear to scream it from the rooftops?
Using a clean room is no guarentee that you are "clean". Its about patterns in the code. If you independently arrive at the same code you are screwed. Independence of discovery is no defense.
But is there a legal distinction? I can't see any. Unless one assumes that individuals are always only wanting to steal, and corporations are mature enough to want to stay within the bounds. Bullshit!
Perhaps He choose not to apply for a patent?
It doesn't matter what it says if the courts say that such a restriction is illegal. You can add a clause to the front of a book that states "transends fair use", or even "transends US Constitution". That doesn't mean it *does*.
Real art is like unto sacred. Its the "design" portrayed as "art" that gets me. I like a nice design and style is cool, but art is more than just looking cool.
I don't think individuals doing an Aqua theme are doing anything wrong. But I agree with you that its not the "skin", its the "Quartz rendering engine, the built-in transparency, the animations, how great the text looks, quicktime channels playing in the background", and BSD/Mach. And even G4s if they get to 1Ghz and are sold as quads. The floating pt. on those G4s and BSD/Mach had be thinking about an apple in my future. Look and feel? Its supposed to be *fun*...but thats not where I *work*.
Apple promoted Java more/better than Sun? OR OpenGl more/better than SGI? Come on!
Unless Apple wants to make skins illegal? Or user customizable skins? Since the themes *could* be used to make something look like something else, then it *might* be in conflict...
I wouldn't say that Apple is not innovating. My respect for Apple's hardware extends back to days of 68000 vs 8086. I also think this level of theming (sp?) has never been seen on MS systems. It too is truely innovative and deserving of respect. So who is deserving of litigation? The poor smuck who spendt the weekends in his home theming up an Apple look alike? Should a hobbiest be held accountable to the same levels as a competitor? Is Jobs really saying that any kid with a scripting sense of theming can make OSX out of windows?
Its not like a professional group here, though. Imagine if Sting tried to sue people who hummed his music on their way home from work. This is individual creation and use and sharing of a theme, for God's sake, not commercial distribution.
Nope: its for win95, win98, winNT, and win2000. The "Next" look actually looks pretty good, too. Virtual desktops on windows...who'd have thunk it?
Everything you say is true. But if I went over to the other side of campus and used the Plastics Technology equipment and built a look alike for myself (with Athlon guts) I don't think Apple should have any rights to say my personal case is illegal or immoral. If I setup shop to produce them for market consumption thats different.