If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Red Hat 7.3 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Windows 95 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Solaris 6 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed FreeBSD 2.0 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
You can say that about ANY software that has significantly aged and is left unpatched. Of course: The only thing all this proves is that operating systems have bugs... ALL of them do, including OpenBSD and a major OpenSSH root exploit in the default install last year.
In most cases it's not the operating system, but the stuff running on top of it. You can't exactly say the same about Blaster, now can ya? This one has been a long time coming. Someone just finally did it.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones No glass house here, more like reinforced steel. Your average joe schmoe has the ability to get a hardware firewall from your local best buy or fry's electronics. They just don't do it.
One sentence pretty much does away with your entire argument. And here it is...
Home users are not sysadmins.
I'll add another just for clarity in case you thought this was referring to the business world: Anyone who's in the business realm already should realize the advantages of using Linux in the business world.
It all boils down to people going "I don't wanna/can't pay for a high-speed internet connection, and gee.. high speed would be so much nicer than dialup.... this is slow, the government should do something about this, like they do with my unemployed medical insurance sponsored by the state"
Interesting how learning, communicating with others, access to government resources and medical information, etc., aren't part of your list. A little bias perhaps?
You can do all of those things off-line. It's just more convenient online.
(very soon we will see one Gigabit speeds on copper - sooner than you think).
We just got a NetApp in at work, and it uses Gigabit copper. We picked up a blade to go into our HP Procurve switch that has 4 1-Gig copper ports on it.
"broadband" is a catchy little term that really has no technical merit. Basically it just takes the idea of bandwidth, slaps the word broad on the front and drops the technical "width" word.
No, dialup is not a form of broadband, dialup is modulated/demodulated signal that is transferred to/from the remote machine you are connecting to. "broadband" is pretty much anything *but* that.
A DS3 is a form of broadband, but it doesn't use analog transmission.
You know, I've heard people talk about this copyright protection stuff, I've seen examples of it on TechTV (hey, I get bored sometimes...), I've even seen websites devoted to the listing of these copy protected cd's, but I have yet to really run into one. Even the ones listed on the websites... Maybe they are using some *real* poor copy protection schemes, or I just haven't ran into the right movement of my arm or twitch of my neck to make it work, I don't know. I've ripped my CDs, listened to the originals in both my car and my wife's car, and played them on my real old DVD player, and my computer.
Dispite what the industry "experts" say, you have every right to copy your music to other media and listen to it in another location, however you wish. There is a law (in America at least) that hasn't been repealed yet which gives consumers the ability to do that type of thing.
Quite a few have tried to teach us lessons in the past. The British Empire burned our capitol, the German empire sunk our ships, and the Japanese empire bombed our harbor. Hell, the Soviet Empire even tried to teach us a lesson in economics and you see where that got them.
And now we have the British Empire with a quasi-democracy, Germany with a proliferating economy in the midst of being a formidable power politically, and most of our electronics made in Japan.
The Soviet Union.. well... they tried. I gotta give it to them. Democracy didn't exactly sit well with their economic stability.
I agree with you though, I'm not trolling you or anything. I just find it funny that in the beginning of the next century after the great wars, the opposing countries are in that form.
Slashdot Mirror
wget http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/Apple.1984.mo v
heheh... ahhh yes.. memories!
It's kinda nice to see IBM in a new light, actually.
I've used Minix way back when... he definately did not clone it, thank god.
Redhat 8 gives you the option in the beginning as to what type of firewall you want.
Yeah.. it's that simple.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Red Hat 7.3 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Windows 95 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed Solaris 6 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
If you were to go take a vanilla fresh installed FreeBSD 2.0 machine and stick it on the Internet it'd be hacked in under an hour.
You can say that about ANY software that has significantly aged and is left unpatched.
Of course:
The only thing all this proves is that operating systems have bugs... ALL of them do, including OpenBSD and a major OpenSSH root exploit in the default install last year.
In most cases it's not the operating system, but the stuff running on top of it. You can't exactly say the same about Blaster, now can ya? This one has been a long time coming. Someone just finally did it.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
No glass house here, more like reinforced steel. Your average joe schmoe has the ability to get a hardware firewall from your local best buy or fry's electronics. They just don't do it.
One sentence pretty much does away with your entire argument.
And here it is...
Home users are not sysadmins.
I'll add another just for clarity in case you thought this was referring to the business world:
Anyone who's in the business realm already should realize the advantages of using Linux in the business world.
Hypocracy because he doesn't wanna pay for someone else to wank?
I doubt it... that's considered smart.
Let them pay for their own wanking material.
It all boils down to people going "I don't wanna/can't pay for a high-speed internet connection, and gee.. high speed would be so much nicer than dialup.... this is slow, the government should do something about this, like they do with my unemployed medical insurance sponsored by the state"
Interesting how learning, communicating with others, access to government resources and medical information, etc., aren't part of your list. A little bias perhaps?
You can do all of those things off-line. It's just more convenient online.
No oppression here, move along.
However, what part of the country, no matter how rural is unable to get satelite broadband from DirecTV?
Certain parts of Alaska can't get it because of the placement of the satellite (a little below Texas) and the bend of the earth.
I've had residential broadband access for about 10 years,
Wait.. you've had residential broadband access while others were still using 2400 baud modems in 1993?
Man, that's just scary, you know?
Brings new meaning to a ping flood....
I never trusted that technology, even on paper.
Nope... DirecTV has bidirectional. :)
You need a seperate dish specifically for the DirecPC or whatever they call it.
Just thought I'd chime in
Too bad it requires an ISDN and DSL subscription.
Which in itself is a lost cause.
ISDN was ditched by most because of it's cost.
(very soon we will see one Gigabit speeds on copper - sooner than you think).
We just got a NetApp in at work, and it uses Gigabit copper.
We picked up a blade to go into our HP Procurve switch that has 4 1-Gig copper ports on it.
"broadband" is a catchy little term that really has no technical merit.
Basically it just takes the idea of bandwidth, slaps the word broad on the front and drops the technical "width" word.
No, dialup is not a form of broadband, dialup is modulated/demodulated signal that is transferred to/from the remote machine you are connecting to.
"broadband" is pretty much anything *but* that.
A DS3 is a form of broadband, but it doesn't use analog transmission.
You know, I've heard people talk about this copyright protection stuff, I've seen examples of it on TechTV (hey, I get bored sometimes...), I've even seen websites devoted to the listing of these copy protected cd's, but I have yet to really run into one. Even the ones listed on the websites...
Maybe they are using some *real* poor copy protection schemes, or I just haven't ran into the right movement of my arm or twitch of my neck to make it work, I don't know. I've ripped my CDs, listened to the originals in both my car and my wife's car, and played them on my real old DVD player, and my computer.
Dispite what the industry "experts" say, you have every right to copy your music to other media and listen to it in another location, however you wish. There is a law (in America at least) that hasn't been repealed yet which gives consumers the ability to do that type of thing.
Not theft, copyright violation.
Stealing the cd from the store on the other hand, that's theft.
Wow...
I've heard stories of people like you, but I thought they were urban legends.
Welcome to the 21st century.. this is a lighter... look, I can make fire with a flick of my finger.
With 10+% unemployment (and still in recession), good luck !
Holy christ, are you serious?
I didn't realize that!
Quite a few have tried to teach us lessons in the past. The British Empire burned our capitol, the German empire sunk our ships, and the Japanese empire bombed our harbor. Hell, the Soviet Empire even tried to teach us a lesson in economics and you see where that got them.
And now we have the British Empire with a quasi-democracy, Germany with a proliferating economy in the midst of being a formidable power politically, and most of our electronics made in Japan.
The Soviet Union.. well... they tried. I gotta give it to them. Democracy didn't exactly sit well with their economic stability.
I agree with you though, I'm not trolling you or anything. I just find it funny that in the beginning of the next century after the great wars, the opposing countries are in that form.
Umm.. yes it is.
:)
Even though we technically don't claim Michigan, it's still a part of the USA.
Well, the servers are in California...
Maybe that does make it a Non-US site?
Dude, thanks alot for that link!
I've been looking for a relatively inexpensive 24-hour analog watch for a while now.
THANK you.
I'm glad someone else caught this, also.
I guess the reconstruction after WW2 DID mean something to American citizens after all!
We'll have a safe haven to plan the next allied liberation....:/
I can only hope our European friends will be willing to help us in our time of need, when that time comes.