from the French "Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen":
Article 9 - As all persons are presumed innocent until declared guilty, force used in making indispensable arrests which exceeds that needed, shall be severely punished by law.
Once again, please excuse my ignorance of the actual policy.
My point still remains, though, that while it might not be constitutional under American law, it is within the bounds of decency and respect for Yahoo to remove any auctions that might affect any person or persons in France, especially if such action is formally requested by the French government. Again, i'm not saying that they should have to remove it, but i'm saying that they should voluntarily remove it.
you'll have to forgive my presumption, then. The "guilty until proven innocent" remark was taken from a source which I thought to be reliable, but apparently is not.
Thank you for correcting me...my apologies if anyone was offended.
you'll have to forgive my presumption, then. The "guilty until proven innocent" remark was taken from a source which I thought to be reliable, but apparently is not.
Thank you for correcting me...my apologies if anyone was offended.
I think the big problem that most of us have with this issue is the fact that we aren't very familiar with a legal system that allows such hindrance of "free speech".
The french legal system is ENTIRELY different from that of the US, UK, and Canada. Their views on "inalienable rights" are far more limited than ours, and it reflects in this particular situation. For example, did you know that in the french criminal justice system, all suspects are GUILTY until PROVEN INNOCENT? Sounds backwards, doesn't it? That's because from our point of view, it IS backwards.
In this case, we're also dealing with a nation that that was affected IMMENSELY by Nazi occupation. The region that was known as Vichy France was home to countless extermination camps, most of which were implemented in killing French dissidents. So you have to remember that their memories and opinions of Nazism (and thus all related artifacts) are FAR more deep-seated than our own; this is especially true for US citizens.
So while it may seem like the french courts are overstepping their bounds, or are trying to impede the free speech of others, Yahoo must still use some good judgement and draw the line somewhere. After all, they ARE running a business, and the worst thing a business can do is alienate its customer base.
i never thought i would live to see the day when ANYONE with a technical background would limit his computer-buying choices to DELL and GATEWAY.
Seriously, the world must be ending. By the way, are there pigs flying out of my ass? Are the legions of Hell engaged in a snowball fight? Did Christina Aguilera write a song????
this is true...
however, my point was not that STB or Liberate were not in a position to really turn this product out...my point was that they are not yet investing as much as ATI or Tivo. Again, i was simply giving a more accurate definition of the word "irrelevant" (a word that was somewhat poorly chosen by the author of the post).
now that was irrelevant.
I simply stated a fact, not some flamebait. I understand that motorola could profit from this venture, as could several of the other companies...but that wasn't my POINT. My point was that they are not yet as INTERESTED in investing as heavily as ATI and TiVo, and thus are not RELEVANT at this point in the game.
Now crawl back in your little hole and take your pathetic attempts at starting a conflict with you.
i've already given this same response to a subsequent thread, but i'll reply to you in the same respect, just to clarify what seems to be a poor choice of words...
the companies that are referred to as "irrelevant" in this article are only "irrelevant" in the fact that they are less involved than ATI and TiVo...they don't stand to gain as much from such a venture, and so they are not lending as much support.
the companies listed as "irrelevant" are irrelevant only in terms of this particular venture...meaning, quite simply, that their roles in its implementation are very small compared to the other more involved companies.
the same supreme court panel also voted 8-to-1 in favor of anal probing as a means of gathering evidence.
personally, i'll take the infrared scanning any day.
that little/. bug is intended to merely collect your anatomical information and take a little something we like to call a "DNA fingerprint".
makes it easier for everyone to know what kind of As-Seen-On-TV products you might wanna buy.
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it's quite simple...
Sony will sell licenses to third-party software manufacturers, who will produce software for office/communications/productivity/etc.
Then they'll return 10% of their profits to Sony.
It's called market expansion...the company broadens their target audience, and thus sells more software titles. And everyone knows that software is the moneymaker...any console manufacturer would gladly take a $100 loss on every console they sell, if they know they're going to sell 5 million units of every title they produce or license.
not to defend microsoft, but rather to set the record straight...
the WSJ article that is referenced uses some fairly misleading terms, in saying that a webpage is "edited" or "changed"...basically, IE is simply filtering out certain key words, and providing links to more information on those terms. While it is true that this feature may seem invasive, keep in mind that there are no changes made to the actual web page...the browser simply allows you to further complement the material through other sites.
And besides, if it sucks, you can always turn it off...
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from the French "Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen":
Article 9 - As all persons are presumed innocent until declared guilty, force used in making indispensable arrests which exceeds that needed, shall be severely punished by law.
Once again, please excuse my ignorance of the actual policy.
My point still remains, though, that while it might not be constitutional under American law, it is within the bounds of decency and respect for Yahoo to remove any auctions that might affect any person or persons in France, especially if such action is formally requested by the French government. Again, i'm not saying that they should have to remove it, but i'm saying that they should voluntarily remove it.
you'll have to forgive my presumption, then. The "guilty until proven innocent" remark was taken from a source which I thought to be reliable, but apparently is not. Thank you for correcting me...my apologies if anyone was offended.
you'll have to forgive my presumption, then. The "guilty until proven innocent" remark was taken from a source which I thought to be reliable, but apparently is not. Thank you for correcting me...my apologies if anyone was offended.
you were beaten a quite often during your childhood, weren't you?
I think the big problem that most of us have with this issue is the fact that we aren't very familiar with a legal system that allows such hindrance of "free speech".
The french legal system is ENTIRELY different from that of the US, UK, and Canada. Their views on "inalienable rights" are far more limited than ours, and it reflects in this particular situation. For example, did you know that in the french criminal justice system, all suspects are GUILTY until PROVEN INNOCENT? Sounds backwards, doesn't it? That's because from our point of view, it IS backwards.
In this case, we're also dealing with a nation that that was affected IMMENSELY by Nazi occupation. The region that was known as Vichy France was home to countless extermination camps, most of which were implemented in killing French dissidents. So you have to remember that their memories and opinions of Nazism (and thus all related artifacts) are FAR more deep-seated than our own; this is especially true for US citizens.
So while it may seem like the french courts are overstepping their bounds, or are trying to impede the free speech of others, Yahoo must still use some good judgement and draw the line somewhere. After all, they ARE running a business, and the worst thing a business can do is alienate its customer base.
i never thought i would live to see the day when ANYONE with a technical background would limit his computer-buying choices to DELL and GATEWAY.
Seriously, the world must be ending. By the way, are there pigs flying out of my ass? Are the legions of Hell engaged in a snowball fight? Did Christina Aguilera write a song????
awwwww, now now... anal probing a touchy subject for you? sorry for bringing it up... (whiner...)
this is true... however, my point was not that STB or Liberate were not in a position to really turn this product out...my point was that they are not yet investing as much as ATI or Tivo. Again, i was simply giving a more accurate definition of the word "irrelevant" (a word that was somewhat poorly chosen by the author of the post).
now that was irrelevant. I simply stated a fact, not some flamebait. I understand that motorola could profit from this venture, as could several of the other companies...but that wasn't my POINT. My point was that they are not yet as INTERESTED in investing as heavily as ATI and TiVo, and thus are not RELEVANT at this point in the game. Now crawl back in your little hole and take your pathetic attempts at starting a conflict with you.
i've already given this same response to a subsequent thread, but i'll reply to you in the same respect, just to clarify what seems to be a poor choice of words... the companies that are referred to as "irrelevant" in this article are only "irrelevant" in the fact that they are less involved than ATI and TiVo...they don't stand to gain as much from such a venture, and so they are not lending as much support.
the companies listed as "irrelevant" are irrelevant only in terms of this particular venture...meaning, quite simply, that their roles in its implementation are very small compared to the other more involved companies.
the same supreme court panel also voted 8-to-1 in favor of anal probing as a means of gathering evidence. personally, i'll take the infrared scanning any day.
you forgot to mention "the deed to my immortal soul".
CNet is partially owned by Intel, so I am pleased that they said anything good about OSX
don't you mean "partially owned by Microsoft"?
that little /. bug is intended to merely collect your anatomical information and take a little something we like to call a "DNA fingerprint".
makes it easier for everyone to know what kind of As-Seen-On-TV products you might wanna buy.
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it's quite simple... Sony will sell licenses to third-party software manufacturers, who will produce software for office/communications/productivity/etc. Then they'll return 10% of their profits to Sony. It's called market expansion...the company broadens their target audience, and thus sells more software titles. And everyone knows that software is the moneymaker...any console manufacturer would gladly take a $100 loss on every console they sell, if they know they're going to sell 5 million units of every title they produce or license.
not to defend microsoft, but rather to set the record straight... the WSJ article that is referenced uses some fairly misleading terms, in saying that a webpage is "edited" or "changed"...basically, IE is simply filtering out certain key words, and providing links to more information on those terms. While it is true that this feature may seem invasive, keep in mind that there are no changes made to the actual web page...the browser simply allows you to further complement the material through other sites. And besides, if it sucks, you can always turn it off... _________________________________________________