Right, of all the things about him, those are the ones that define him. To you.
What's your problem? He was a peace activist, the government's war-time activities include spying on peace activists, you question their motives by reducing a significant historical figure of the time to two negative characteristics without any supporting evidence, you CLEARLY have an agenda and no shred of honesty. So what's your beef with Lenon?
Let's ask a very basic question here: Assuming the U.S. Government has such devices, why the hell would they [test] them "spying" on a public protest [...] Why would the government [test] expensive, rare devices on a low value target like a public protest? Because if they don't test them out in their own territory then they can't rely on them to work in hostile situations.
Think rationally for a minute. What benefit can a supposed micro-UAV provide in this kind of gathering? Tracking an individual moving in a large crowd where direct visual contact and subtle shadowing is made impossible by the mass of people around the target.
Testing such a technology on a peaceful demonstration in a location under your jurisdiction and over a crowd where you can easily place agents to A)be tracked and B)recover the experimental device should it fail makes perfect sense to me.
Sure, the gov't has limitless budget/captive genius scientists, etc... but really.. the technical hurdles to such a product are enormous... for starters.... Batteries - this would be very difficult to make work for a long time when it has to fly by way of flapping wings! Control system - Airplanes are *relatively* easy to make a control system for, because they're well studied and time tested(and even this is hard and requires pounds upon pounds of circuitry (yes, the redundancy isn't necessary for a spy bug, but even the smallest processors/accelerometers/gyroscopes weigh more than a fsking bug!). A robot with flapping wings we don't understand well on the original nature-made product? not happening yet! Reproducing a convincing style of flight When someone caught/"killed" one, the jig would be up!
What's much more likely is All those hurdles have been overcome. Work toward this goal has been conducted under a grant from the U.S. Air Force (see reduced size versions of the Reciprocating Chemical Muscle second, third, and fourth generations)
Demonstration of a "milli-scaled" Entomopter was the highest rated project for internal funding by the Georgia Tech Research Institute during the 1998 fiscal year. Applications for patents on the various components of Michelson's research have been submitted with the first having been granted for the overall Entomopter concept on July 4, 2000 and another being granted for the propulsion system September 10, 2002.
why would they be "wasted" on a group of protesters? There are MUCH more low-tech ways of surveillance, if that's their goal. It's only logical that the spooks would save these for places where traditional surveillance wasn't possible, or was impractical. The Apollo program was a human spaceflight program undertaken by NASA during the years 1961 - 1975 with the goal of conducting manned moon landing missions. John F. Kennedy announced this goal in 1961, and it was accomplished on July 20, 1969 by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin during the Apollo 11 mission.
Why would they waste 10 Apollo rockets? These things are incredibly complex and expensive to launch, it makes no sense that they would test them out in dress rehearsals! It's only logical that they would save these for the main event.
John Lennon a drug addict who was possibly mentally ill. What an accurate and unbiased description!
John Winston Ono Lennon, MBE (9 October 1940 - 8 December 1980), was an English songwriter, singer, musician, graphic artist, author and peace activist who gained worldwide fame as one of the founders of The Beatles. Lennon and Paul McCartney formed a critically acclaimed and commercially successful partnership writing songs for The Beatles and other artists.[1] Lennon, with his cynical edge and knack for introspection, and McCartney, with his storytelling optimism and gift for melody, complemented each other.[2] In his solo career, Lennon wrote and recorded songs such as "Imagine" and "Give Peace a Chance".
Lennon revealed his rebellious nature and irreverent wit on television, in films such as A Hard Day's Night (1964), in books such as In His Own Write, and in press conferences and interviews. He channelled his fame and penchant for controversy into his work as a peace activist, artist, and author.
Yeah, why would the military-industrial-congress complex waste their ressources on a simple, run of the mill insane drug addict? They must t3h dumb!
I'm a computer science major and I've wiki'd some really advanced topics that appear on there but hardly anywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying that because a computerized knowledge base, owned, operated, and edited by people with computers, has a lot of stuff about computers in it, that it must therefore have a lot of stuff about everything in it? What about needlepoint? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needlepoint Seems pretty well researched. Huh, lookadat... didn't know they had an "embroidery" category:)
The *reality* of what happens when you to try grow crops in low gravity is totally unknown, and all arrogance in the world is not going to change that. http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/shared/news2003/plants/plants4.jpg Expedition Five Science Officer Peggy Whitson examines plants on the International Space Station.
Mission 15 and 16 include multi-generation plant experiments in low-gravity simulations in centrifuges. The fact that actual plants have actually been grown in actual micro and low gravity situations is reality which I, for one, do not ignore.
Now, again, tell me why it is obvious that a clinostat cannot be used to grow plants, only unicellular organism. I know why you said that: Because the page I linked only talked about cells, not plants, you had to click deeper in the site to find out about plants. But do go on, tell me why it's obvious that what has been done (unbeknown to you) for hundreds of years cannot be done.
The Democrats couldn't impeach Bush if they tried. They have a slim majority, that's all. It's not nearly enough to impeach or pass veto-proof bills without Republican support. So they don't try because it would be hard? That's some good leadership there, Lou.
A clinostat averages the pull of gravity around an axis.
Yes, you FINALLY read the link I provided, but you said clinostats only worked on cell cultures, not plants, for obvious reasons. Stop repeating what was in the link I gave you and tell me your bvious reasons why plants can be put in clinostats. Or stop wasting your time pretending you weren't wrong and go look up what experiments have been done in microgravity hydroponics instead of pretending like no one ever studied it.
Also, if you have a place to stay anyway, long-term low gravity experiments. We know you get screwed up in microgravity, we know you do fine in full gravity. But what about a little gravity? You know what Heinlein said about women on the moon, don't you?;-)
2047: in the event of worldwide internet outage, GoogleMicrosoftApple will deploy nuclear warheads to silence virus spewing nodes. the circle is complete I would have said "GooApploSoft", but:)
Could someone please remind me how patenting something obvious is not evil? When you patent it but allow anyone to use it free of charge, preventing someone else from patenting it and restricting its use.
I have no idea if that is what's going on, but that answer your question about "how":)
Can anyone explain, by way of analogy, what having four time-like dimensions and no time-like dimensions would entail? Would everything just . . . stop? Would our current motion through time carry forward through Newton's Laws, so that we don't even notice the switch? I did RTFA, and it's light on details. I attempted to RTF paper, and immediately zoned out. So, anyone understand this well enough to attempt to clarify? Clearly, this means you will end up sleeping with your grandma and becoming your own grandfather. It is... inevitable.
and that still disproves nothing. my post was purely in response to someone saying historical evidence of a man named jesus did not exist. There were plenty of guys by that name, in that place, at that time. BUT: Historical evidence of that Jesus does not exist. You misrepresented that fact.
Brain surgeons have long known that stimulation of the temporal lobe can make people hear voices. That doesn't count as proof that 'voices' don't really exist, though. It means those voices come from within, not from outside their head.
One could just as well ask why such a center exists in the brain if nothing exists to stimulate it. One would reply that orgasms exist to stimulate it.
"No reason to suspect [God] might exist" - you don't think your existance is a good reason to at least contemplate it? You mean, maybe my existence proves that the first human was Väinämöinen, and that he was born from the maiden of air Ilmatar that was made pregnant by the sea?
Kinda makes me wonder how many of the prophecies and martyrdoms that the the various religions were based on, well, were just the result of hallucinations. If you read the bible, you'll notice that a LOT of it happens in dreams. Most of the angel visitations, the whole apocalypse, it's all dreams. And we're expected to put our faith in them.
I'm just pointing out that the amount of disinformation around is staggering http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/01/13/drugs/print.html With this deal in place, government officials and their contractors began approving, and in some cases altering, the scripts of shows before they were aired to conform with the government's anti-drug messages. "Script changes would be discussed between ONDCP and the show -- negotiated," says one participant.
Rick Mater, the WB network's senior vice president for broadcast standards, acknowledges: "The White House did view scripts. They did sign off on them -- they read scripts, yes."
The arrangement, uncovered by a six-month Salon News investigation, is known to only a few insiders in Hollywood, New York and Washington. Almost none of the producers and writers crafting the anti-drug episodes knew of the deal. And top officials from the five networks involved last season -- NBC, ABC, CBS, the WB and Fox -- for the most part refused to discuss it.
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Right, of all the things about him, those are the ones that define him. To you.
What's your problem? He was a peace activist, the government's war-time activities include spying on peace activists, you question their motives by reducing a significant historical figure of the time to two negative characteristics without any supporting evidence, you CLEARLY have an agenda and no shred of honesty. So what's your beef with Lenon?
Testing such a technology on a peaceful demonstration in a location under your jurisdiction and over a crowd where you can easily place agents to A)be tracked and B)recover the experimental device should it fail makes perfect sense to me.
Batteries - this would be very difficult to make work for a long time when it has to fly by way of flapping wings!
Control system - Airplanes are *relatively* easy to make a control system for, because they're well studied and time tested(and even this is hard and requires pounds upon pounds of circuitry (yes, the redundancy isn't necessary for a spy bug, but even the smallest processors/accelerometers/gyroscopes weigh more than a fsking bug!). A robot with flapping wings we don't understand well on the original nature-made product? not happening yet!
Reproducing a convincing style of flight
When someone caught/"killed" one, the jig would be up!
What's much more likely is All those hurdles have been overcome.
Work toward this goal has been conducted under a grant from the U.S. Air Force (see reduced size versions of the Reciprocating Chemical Muscle second, third, and fourth generations)
Demonstration of a "milli-scaled" Entomopter was the highest rated project for internal funding by the Georgia Tech Research Institute during the 1998 fiscal year. Applications for patents on the various components of Michelson's research have been submitted with the first having been granted for the overall Entomopter concept on July 4, 2000 and another being granted for the propulsion system September 10, 2002.
Why would they waste 10 Apollo rockets? These things are incredibly complex and expensive to launch, it makes no sense that they would test them out in dress rehearsals! It's only logical that they would save these for the main event.
John Winston Ono Lennon, MBE (9 October 1940 - 8 December 1980), was an English songwriter, singer, musician, graphic artist, author and peace activist who gained worldwide fame as one of the founders of The Beatles. Lennon and Paul McCartney formed a critically acclaimed and commercially successful partnership writing songs for The Beatles and other artists.[1] Lennon, with his cynical edge and knack for introspection, and McCartney, with his storytelling optimism and gift for melody, complemented each other.[2] In his solo career, Lennon wrote and recorded songs such as "Imagine" and "Give Peace a Chance".
Lennon revealed his rebellious nature and irreverent wit on television, in films such as A Hard Day's Night (1964), in books such as In His Own Write, and in press conferences and interviews. He channelled his fame and penchant for controversy into his work as a peace activist, artist, and author.
Yeah, why would the military-industrial-congress complex waste their ressources on a simple, run of the mill insane drug addict? They must t3h dumb!
Are you saying that because a computerized knowledge base, owned, operated, and edited by people with computers, has a lot of stuff about computers in it, that it must therefore have a lot of stuff about everything in it? What about needlepoint? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needlepoint
Seems pretty well researched. Huh, lookadat... didn't know they had an "embroidery" category
Expedition Five Science Officer Peggy Whitson examines plants on the International Space Station.
Mission 15 and 16 include multi-generation plant experiments in low-gravity simulations in centrifuges.
The fact that actual plants have actually been grown in actual micro and low gravity situations is reality which I, for one, do not ignore.
Now, again, tell me why it is obvious that a clinostat cannot be used to grow plants, only unicellular organism. I know why you said that: Because the page I linked only talked about cells, not plants, you had to click deeper in the site to find out about plants. But do go on, tell me why it's obvious that what has been done (unbeknown to you) for hundreds of years cannot be done.
That's some good leadership there, Lou.
Care to list your obvious reasons?
A clinostat averages the pull of gravity around an axis.
Yes, you FINALLY read the link I provided, but you said clinostats only worked on cell cultures, not plants, for obvious reasons. Stop repeating what was in the link I gave you and tell me your bvious reasons why plants can be put in clinostats. Or stop wasting your time pretending you weren't wrong and go look up what experiments have been done in microgravity hydroponics instead of pretending like no one ever studied it.Erm, that only works for cells, for obvious reasons.
http://www.dolphinexim.com/prod_78_1_1.htm (a clinostat for sale with a potted plant fitted into it in the demo picture)Care to list your obvious reasons?
Will plants grow well in 1/6th gravity? Who knows?
These guys, maybe? Ronald J. Anderson, Thomas M. Crabb, John G. Frank, Steven M. Guetschow, Jeffrey T Iverson, Olaf Meding, Robert C. Morrow, E. Don Peissig, Ross W Remiker, Robert C. Richter, David Smith, Jon D. Van Roo, Anton G. Vermaak, and John C. Vignali of Orbital Technologies Corp. for Kennedy Space Center.Or anyone with access to a working clinostat, really.
I have no idea if that is what's going on, but that answer your question about "how"
It is... inevitable.
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Problem solved!
eBay, feel free to send me a few millions as a reward. KTHXbye.
You misrepresented that fact.
Sure, why not?
Most of the angel visitations, the whole apocalypse, it's all dreams. And we're expected to put our faith in them.
With this deal in place, government officials and their contractors began approving, and in some cases altering, the scripts of shows before they were aired to conform with the government's anti-drug messages. "Script changes would be discussed between ONDCP and the show -- negotiated," says one participant.
Rick Mater, the WB network's senior vice president for broadcast standards, acknowledges: "The White House did view scripts. They did sign off on them -- they read scripts, yes."
The arrangement, uncovered by a six-month Salon News investigation, is known to only a few insiders in Hollywood, New York and Washington. Almost none of the producers and writers crafting the anti-drug episodes knew of the deal. And top officials from the five networks involved last season -- NBC, ABC, CBS, the WB and Fox -- for the most part refused to discuss it.