Apparently it's now legal for the government to kidnap and torture anyone and there's nothing the courts can do about it if the government calls "state secret". Horrible. Just... horrible.
I like that it contributes to the accountability but it frightens me that I believe wikileaks.
Improve accountability? No, all this will do is force the decision-making process further away from the prying eyes of public scrutiny. Arguments and discussions will only take place "off the record" and in ways that can be immediately destroyed. No decisions will be documented - at least not in a way that can be used against anyone. Don't like the amount of paper that a bureaucracy produces? You won't have to worry about that much longer...
And you believe wikileaks caused that preexisting condition? With what, tachyons and quantums?
It seems, to you, that they are only picking on You, but does it seem to you that You are overrepresented in the World series of baseball? Maybe wikileaks isn't picking on the US more than it deserves, maybe you're paying less attention to the rest of the world than it deserves.
Not being able to express what you wish to discuss is not a sign of high intelligence, is it?
You can piss off with your bullshit "politeness". You sucked at faking it about as much you do at being clear about what it is you want to argue about. Feel free to fuck yourself in the ass with it, though. Being the good guy I am, I do want you to be able to get the only action you can.
lol! you know what? Please ignore all dating advice I give, it's better for the gene pool.
This is why they want him to step aside. If Assange truly is this hero fight to cast light on a dark world he would step aside and allow wikileaks to go on without him.
He has to stand his ground: If he steps aside at the first attack, he's no hero, he's just getting out of the way of the attackers so they can get to his friends.
If it is one variable at a time, then we are comparing being rich to being poor which was not the point under debate.
Your point was that physical appearance was the driving factor when deciding attractiveness, and I called bullshit on that. My experiment tests for that by keeping physical attractiveness as a constant.
The comparison you wanted was someone with one out of three main factors VS two out of three. That is a contribution that I think can only be motivated by low intelligence or low honesty. Frankly, we're riding the edge of my politeness at this point.
I don't think Assange should use Wikileaks for anything more than a short and comprehensive statement about his innocence (if he still has the confidence of the rest of the Wikileaks organisation).
If he uses the Wikileaks web site to promote the idea of a government conspiracy against himself. it may backfire and hurt the credibility of the entire organisation.
Why do you talk about things that could be instead of going to see how things are?
You googled for "rape", you will get search results with "rape". You can't draw any conclusions out of that.
If I google for wikileaks rape, I want to know what kind of rape coverups have had their whistle blown. Is the congo-war-weapon rape thing being facilitated by a multinational because it serves their resource-harvesting scheme? Stuff like that.
But there are others who's purposes will best be suited if I have to wade through talk of Assange's improper condom maintenance instead.
wing dancing is very fun in the sense that you kind of make it up as you go along. However, there are a core set of moves and basics that every dancer must know for the "making stuff up" thing to work (the swing out comes to mind for example).
Dancing is like programming, there's a few basic moves and techniques you have to learn, and then you make of them what you can. Dancing is NOT like programming in that the more you dance, the healthier you get.;-)
I think Spock's head would explode if he tried to analyze female 'logic'
I hypothesize that women are instinctually driven to cryptic behavior in order to promote high social intelligence in their mates: They're confusing for the good of the species.
As for the two types of dances shown in TFA, one was a submissive pose (shoulders hunched, head down, slow and predictable centripetal movement), the other was dominant behavior (open stance, chin up, unpredictable high-amplitude movements, isotropic gaze).
If Assange is no longer claiming "cia!" why are people still claiming diversion and conspiracy.
Even if he did nothing he may have just ticked off the wrong woman!
Because it made the news too fast. Because Assange never "claimed CIA" but you say that he did (I claimed CIA, but he just said he was 'warned of dirty tricks').
Because if I google...
Wikileaks rape
About 2,730,000 results (0.41 seconds) Search Results
1.
News for wikileaks rape
2. Icelandic WikiLeaks associate says founder should step aside - 17 hours ago
... I find out it's working: Wikileaks isn't about the bad things the US (et al.) has done, it's now about the bad things its spokesperson may have done. The threat has successfully been disarmed, now they'll never get to tell their message without being interrupted to talk about Julian's sex life.
Neave says pilot studies by his group found that asking women who's a good dancer is the same as asking who's attractive.
Does this not undermine their argument? When actual men are involved, it boils down to who is better looking. So how he moves is of little importance as long as the women find him attractive.
You... you don't actually think that male attractiveness is directly related to physical appearance, do you? That would be very sad, that you'd genuinely know so very little about women. I mean, it's one of the variables involved, but it's far from being the leading factor (the big three are Money, Assertiveness and Muscles, in that order). I've had girls tell me the lead singers of Aerosmith and the Rolling Stones are very attractive, and you know those guys look like road kill, but they are rich and famous, and so they are very attractive.
Also, women seem to believe that how a man dances is a proxy for his sexual prowess. Which I know for a fact to be a false belief because the dance classes I took had a very big impact on how I dance but no impact on how I screw (it had an effect on 'how often', but not on 'how').
Regardless, that doesn't mean he should use the Wikileaks site for promoting his own innocence.
You think the spokesperson of a website shouldn't proclaim his innocence on said website when the press accuses him of an odious crime? What color is the sky on your world?
Yeah, because the US government has no history of doing anything to people that try to undermine it or piss off those within it.
Seriously, where have you been these last two years? Obama is running the white house and is commander in chief of the US military. These neo-con conspiracy theories don't work right now.
The military-industrial-congress complex stays in power no matter what label their current frontman is associated with. Different branch, same tree.
A member of Iceland's parliament and prominent organiser for whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks has turned on the site's founder, Julian Assange, demanding that he step down over rape allegations made against him in Sweden.
Jonsdottir, who speaks Swedish, said that she had reviewed Swedish police records and disputed Assange's claim that the allegations were politically motivated, suggesting instead that they may be the result of cultural misunderstanding.
How is it that a politician is reviewing the evidence in an ongoing police case and furthermore, commenting on it in public? In most civilized countries that would be cause for an investigation into the police, and the firing of the prosecutor for not running a tight ship with a clear separation between the judiciary and the executive brances.
A politician from Iceland is commenting on a Swedish case, the separation is quite complete.
It is sad that mere accusations are enough to demand that people step down from just about anything. His life is going to be forever altered for the simple fact that he was accused, even if there ends up being no basis for it. Even if it turns out that it was just the manufactured story of a ruthless reporter and a pissed off chick.
It has been mentioned that he has been dragging wikileaks into this personal situation, for example using the wikileaks twitter feed to promote the idea that he is innocent and the US is running a smear campaign. I do not think he would be asked to step down, especially so publicly, if he had kept his personal life and wikileaks separate.
Yes, HE has mixed wikileaks with this rape charge. Not the newspaper that published the story in the less-than-24h time period during which the charges stood. The guy who hadn't even been told there were charges against him before the article was published. It's all his fault. He was clearly asking for it... the way he dresses...
There is a bit of a problem with not enough information about this case, so I'll try to summary what I know so far.
1: Two women who had sex with Assange went to the police and were adviced to file charges of rape 2: A prosecutor releases the accusations publicly to the press (not a common thing here in Sweden afaik) 3: The case is withdrawn because they realize Assange cannot be nailed for rape. The remaining charge is something akin to sexual harassment. 4: The rape charges are revived 5:... 6: Profit?
No seriously I'm starting to wonder what the fuck is up with the swedish legal system.
ftfa: "He acknowledges that the allegations might complicate his plans to obtain a residency permit to remain in Sweden, which has broad press freedom laws that could be used to shield WikiLeaks from American prosecutors."
You want to have legal protection in Sweden? We'll give you legal TROUBLES in Sweden! Your move, skinny boy.
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Improve accountability? No, all this will do is force the decision-making process further away from the prying eyes of public scrutiny.
How I wish you were wrong - but this weeks major, (incredible, unbelievable, and under-reported) news proves you very very right....
Apparently it's now legal for the government to kidnap and torture anyone and there's nothing the courts can do about it if the government calls "state secret". Horrible. Just... horrible.
Improve accountability? No, all this will do is force the decision-making process further away from the prying eyes of public scrutiny. Arguments and discussions will only take place "off the record" and in ways that can be immediately destroyed. No decisions will be documented - at least not in a way that can be used against anyone. Don't like the amount of paper that a bureaucracy produces? You won't have to worry about that much longer...
And you believe wikileaks caused that preexisting condition? With what, tachyons and quantums?
He also seems to specifically target the US and only the US, as if no other country is currently doing dubious shit.
"RT @wikileaks Outcry in Belgium Over WikiLeaks publications of Dutroux dossier http://bit.ly/9RBPI2"
It seems, to you, that they are only picking on You, but does it seem to you that You are overrepresented in the World series of baseball? Maybe wikileaks isn't picking on the US more than it deserves, maybe you're paying less attention to the rest of the world than it deserves.
I don't really know, perhaps someone can explain better, but I just get this bad feeling the way they are going about this.
Yeah, it's all... rapey.
Makes me want to take a shower.
Not being able to express what you wish to discuss is not a sign of high intelligence, is it?
You can piss off with your bullshit "politeness". You sucked at faking it about as much you do at being clear about what it is you want to argue about. Feel free to fuck yourself in the ass with it, though. Being the good guy I am, I do want you to be able to get the only action you can.
lol! you know what? Please ignore all dating advice I give, it's better for the gene pool.
This is why they want him to step aside. If Assange truly is this hero fight to cast light on a dark world he would step aside and allow wikileaks to go on without him.
The Russians call it Kompromat - the use by the state of sexual accusations to destroy a public figure.
He has to stand his ground: If he steps aside at the first attack, he's no hero, he's just getting out of the way of the attackers so they can get to his friends.
You assume that there is something to work, which is an unsupported, and most likely false, assumption.
You assume, unsupported, that it is "most likely false"...
You googled for "rape", you will get search results with "rape". You can't draw any conclusions out of that.
And here's something I got from the wikileaks twitter: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5395830/Abu-Ghraib-abuse-photos-show-rape.html
See, I should be able to find horrible things like those with that google search :(
If it is one variable at a time, then we are comparing being rich to being poor which was not the point under debate.
Your point was that physical appearance was the driving factor when deciding attractiveness, and I called bullshit on that. My experiment tests for that by keeping physical attractiveness as a constant.
The comparison you wanted was someone with one out of three main factors VS two out of three. That is a contribution that I think can only be motivated by low intelligence or low honesty. Frankly, we're riding the edge of my politeness at this point.
I don't think Assange should use Wikileaks for anything more than a short and comprehensive statement about his innocence (if he still has the confidence of the rest of the Wikileaks organisation).
If he uses the Wikileaks web site to promote the idea of a government conspiracy against himself. it may backfire and hurt the credibility of the entire organisation.
Why do you talk about things that could be instead of going to see how things are?
So ugly, pussy rich guy vs. good looking, assertive poorer guy?
No, same guy, same bar, same table, just change the prop lying on he table from bus pass to luxury car keys.
One variable at a time.
You googled for "rape", you will get search results with "rape". You can't draw any conclusions out of that.
If I google for wikileaks rape, I want to know what kind of rape coverups have had their whistle blown. Is the congo-war-weapon rape thing being facilitated by a multinational because it serves their resource-harvesting scheme? Stuff like that.
But there are others who's purposes will best be suited if I have to wade through talk of Assange's improper condom maintenance instead.
Money is mostly only important for exciting long term interest.
Who gets more pussy at the bar: The guy with the Ferrari keychain or the guy with the bus pass?
wing dancing is very fun in the sense that you kind of make it up as you go along. However, there are a core set of moves and basics that every dancer must know for the "making stuff up" thing to work (the swing out comes to mind for example).
Dancing is like programming, there's a few basic moves and techniques you have to learn, and then you make of them what you can. ;-)
Dancing is NOT like programming in that the more you dance, the healthier you get.
I think Spock's head would explode if he tried to analyze female 'logic'
I hypothesize that women are instinctually driven to cryptic behavior in order to promote high social intelligence in their mates: They're confusing for the good of the species.
As for the two types of dances shown in TFA, one was a submissive pose (shoulders hunched, head down, slow and predictable centripetal movement), the other was dominant behavior (open stance, chin up, unpredictable high-amplitude movements, isotropic gaze).
If Assange is no longer claiming "cia!" why are people still claiming diversion and conspiracy.
Even if he did nothing he may have just ticked off the wrong woman!
Because it made the news too fast.
Because Assange never "claimed CIA" but you say that he did (I claimed CIA, but he just said he was 'warned of dirty tricks').
Because if I google...
Wikileaks rape
About 2,730,000 results (0.41 seconds)
Search Results
1.
News for wikileaks rape
2. Icelandic WikiLeaks associate says founder should step aside - 17 hours ago
Neave says pilot studies by his group found that asking women who's a good dancer is the same as asking who's attractive.
Does this not undermine their argument? When actual men are involved, it boils down to who is better looking. So how he moves is of little importance as long as the women find him attractive.
You... you don't actually think that male attractiveness is directly related to physical appearance, do you? That would be very sad, that you'd genuinely know so very little about women. I mean, it's one of the variables involved, but it's far from being the leading factor (the big three are Money, Assertiveness and Muscles, in that order). I've had girls tell me the lead singers of Aerosmith and the Rolling Stones are very attractive, and you know those guys look like road kill, but they are rich and famous, and so they are very attractive.
Also, women seem to believe that how a man dances is a proxy for his sexual prowess. Which I know for a fact to be a false belief because the dance classes I took had a very big impact on how I dance but no impact on how I screw (it had an effect on 'how often', but not on 'how').
What, no analysis of social dancing? Ya know, dancing with girls? With a lead and a follow?
I guess that kind of research will have to wait for a scientist willing to ask a girl to dance... might take a while.
Regardless, that doesn't mean he should use the Wikileaks site for promoting his own innocence.
You think the spokesperson of a website shouldn't proclaim his innocence on said website when the press accuses him of an odious crime? What color is the sky on your world?
Yeah, because the US government has no history of doing anything to people that try to undermine it or piss off those within it.
Seriously, where have you been these last two years? Obama is running the white house and is commander in chief of the US military. These neo-con conspiracy theories don't work right now.
The military-industrial-congress complex stays in power no matter what label their current frontman is associated with. Different branch, same tree.
How is it that a politician is reviewing the evidence in an ongoing police case and furthermore, commenting on it in public? In most civilized countries that would be cause for an investigation into the police, and the firing of the prosecutor for not running a tight ship with a clear separation between the judiciary and the executive brances.
A politician from Iceland is commenting on a Swedish case, the separation is quite complete.
It is sad that mere accusations are enough to demand that people step down from just about anything. His life is going to be forever altered for the simple fact that he was accused, even if there ends up being no basis for it. Even if it turns out that it was just the manufactured story of a ruthless reporter and a pissed off chick.
It has been mentioned that he has been dragging wikileaks into this personal situation, for example using the wikileaks twitter feed to promote the idea that he is innocent and the US is running a smear campaign. I do not think he would be asked to step down, especially so publicly, if he had kept his personal life and wikileaks separate.
Yes, HE has mixed wikileaks with this rape charge. Not the newspaper that published the story in the less-than-24h time period during which the charges stood. The guy who hadn't even been told there were charges against him before the article was published. It's all his fault. He was clearly asking for it... the way he dresses...
There is a bit of a problem with not enough information about this case, so I'll try to summary what I know so far.
1: Two women who had sex with Assange went to the police and were adviced to file charges of rape ...
2: A prosecutor releases the accusations publicly to the press (not a common thing here in Sweden afaik)
3: The case is withdrawn because they realize Assange cannot be nailed for rape. The remaining charge is something akin to sexual harassment.
4: The rape charges are revived
5:
6: Profit?
No seriously I'm starting to wonder what the fuck is up with the swedish legal system.
ftfa: "He acknowledges that the allegations might complicate his plans to obtain a residency permit to remain in Sweden, which has broad press freedom laws that could be used to shield WikiLeaks from American prosecutors. "
You want to have legal protection in Sweden? We'll give you legal TROUBLES in Sweden! Your move, skinny boy.
Or is it more of a revenge thing?
There are many who think it's an "in Assange's head" thing.
There's one born every minute.
I don't see how I'm meant to hold it for prolonged periods, e.g. for watching a movie
look here http://www.truthbook.com/images/site_images/Pierre_Auguste_Renoir_Young_Woman_Reading_a_Book_350%20.jpg