There is an actual claim being made in the article that they are finding him in investigations, but how much is not known.
If they are investigatin based on the assumption that pedobear pictures means real pedos, then they will find pedobear pictures in their investigations of pedobear pictures. And they are not above using this tautological vicious cycle as justification for itself.
something I heard in a 4chan thread so it could be bullshit but it certainly sounds plausible enough.
The thing is that pedobear is used to EXPOSE (and mock... ok, mostly mock) any hint of pedoness, so real pedos would be reaaaaaaly dumb to hide their pedobooty with a tech trick and then stamp a big "hey everyone, this shit is pedoshit" picture on it.
Then again, cops like to set up honeypots for really dumb criminals, so maybe this is the new "you've won a free boat!" trick.
I'll fully admit I have no knowledge of whether the real pedophile community has adopted the image to communicate with each other. If (and its a big if) the police have real (i.e. not hypothetical) knowledge that real pedophiles use the image to communicate with each other, then the warning is appropriate (maybe they have undercovers in pedophile forums?). [...] I can't really dispute because I have no idea what those guys are doing!
So, despite your uncertainty and your doubts, you fear that hypothetical danger?
*sigh*, it's such a depressingly efficacious public relations technique.
have you been hanging out in REAL pedophile forums?
And that video is a video of people talking about cats in a store, with a few quick shots of cats. It is NOT a video of cats loose in a store, so it's viral FALSE advertising. I loved Ikea before, now I like them less.
This summary is blatantly false after even only thirty seconds of looking at its links - for example:
The Pedo Bear began as an online Japanese cartoon character, and is known for his "lecherous nature" towards prepubescent children. Recently, pedophiles have adopted the bear as a mascot.
The summary omits that transition part, wherein the only valid application of Pedobear is that of a joke, and pedophiles haven't picked it up and ran with it.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Which pedophiles, when, and where? Be precise, name names. Once you're done with that, look up what "FUD" means, you'll obviously learn new things.
So to recap, in three rounds of replies you've gone from:
"What's wrong with editing for impact?"
to
"He doesn't edit anything! You're a liar!"
No, I know that every bit of news, ever, has been edited, and therefore know that one news source saying "OMG that other guy has done editing" is a distraction tactic to stop you from hearing what's being said. I will know you're an idiot so long as you fail to explain what -=exactly=- has been done as part of this "editing" process you hate with such a passion, and how exactly those things are a)not ok and b)not done by your own sources? Be very careful about b), you've quote Fox News (winners of the "we're allowed to knowingly lie in the news" lawsuit).
"OMG your sources are bullshit!" + Grammar Nazi.
Your sources ARE bullshit! You should be ashamed of trotting them out. Seriously.
They're guilty of =intentionally misleading= editing. They do it routinely. And you, in your blatant jingo bias, want other people to dismiss wikileaks because of those shameless liars accusing wikileaks of "editing". Mysterious, ominous editing.
Fine. Here's an interview of Assange saying explicitlythat he edited that video and presented that edited video to the public
Again, editing a video and showing it to the public is NOT A BAD THING. It's perfectly normal, good and honest behavior for someone who wants the world to know something. And further more, you're showing me a video of the guy honestly saying he did it, and you think that's going to make me think he's dishonest...
What you defend in your shrill, babyish cries of "but but but he edited the video for impact!" is the continued murder of thousands upon thousands of people, and the lies of the pentagon told to justify their murders, lies that I don't claim vaguely they may have possibly implied through mysterious editing (as you would), lies I can quote verbatim: ''There is no question that coalition forces were clearly engaged in combat operations against a hostile force,'' said Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl, a spokesman for the multinational forces in Baghdad.
And if you go and watch the videos (edited or unedited) you will not find a hostile force clearly engaged in combat with that helicopter.
But you'll defend that too, because you are dishonestly 'patriotic', whatever wrongs your side does you'll say didn't happen, and when someone points out those murderous lies, you'll whine "editing" rejoice when the spokesperson for the truth is being kompromat.
So, when you complain about "editing", the other idiots in your echo chamber will pat you on the back for catapulting the propaganda, but you out yourself as a brainless idiot to anyone capable of critical thinking, because intelligent people know that "editing" is part of the normal process of news disclosure, and you're pretending it isn't (or more likely, ignorantly parroting the lines you were fed without the intelligence needed to actively pretend).
Only in the broadest, generic sense of plot and character type.
If I talk about the feared ruler of a desert planet who feeds people to a giant worm as punishment, and I tell you that character has the body of a worm with a humanoid torso/head up top... I'm describing Leto II, god-emperor of Dune. Or Jabba the hut, whichever.
And a galactic empire's capital planet, covered by a world-wide city, is that place named Coruscant or Trantor?
etc.
Everything in SW was borrowed, recycled, and then claimed as Lucas' own. That's what made him great (a billionaire) where others remained obscure: Taking from the greats, and passing it off as his own.
It take a bit of a leap involving original content creation to take Flash Gordon and a movie set in feudal japan about two farmers and a general getting the princess her crown back and end up with the entire universe that is Star Wars.
If those are the only two things you know he ripped off, you're severely lacking in sci-fi culture.
Now kindly stop sucking Assange's dick for a few minutes
The atlantic right and fox news? You're projecting your own dick sucking on other people.
I bet you think Jeff Gannon is the most reliable name in news.
Maybe - just maybe - you're also bias.
Maybe, just maybe, I'm also biased; but you, you are indubitably biased. Get out of your far-right echo chamber once in a while, take a breather from all the hate and the fear.
How the flying fuck do you get 'honesty' from "SF Weekly says interviews conducted with several former Zynga workers indicate that the practice of stealing other companies' game ideas — and then using Zynga's market clout to crowd out the games' originators — was business as usual."?
Former employees revealing a company's theft of IP != honesty in business.
And none of that addresses the fact that he admits to editing documents and videos for impact.
Oh noes! For impact! That's the worse thing someone can do with powerful material, presenting it for maximum impact! No one but the evil Wikileaks does it, too!
We live in a democracy, and we need to know what is happening in order to make democratic choices.
In Propaganda (1928), Bernays argued that the manipulation of public opinion was a necessary part of democracy:
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country....We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society....In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind. "
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Oh, pretty pictures, how nice! Now how about you don't failwhale every fucking 20 minutes and you always let me tweet, you unstable piece of fei-yu?
Curmudgeonly yours,
Scram.
Perhaps you should visit 4chan sometime.
What a mean thing to say! Shame on you.
There is an actual claim being made in the article that they are finding him in investigations, but how much is not known.
If they are investigatin based on the assumption that pedobear pictures means real pedos, then they will find pedobear pictures in their investigations of pedobear pictures.
And they are not above using this tautological vicious cycle as justification for itself.
It's unsubstantiated claims all the way down.
something I heard in a 4chan thread so it could be bullshit but it certainly sounds plausible enough.
The thing is that pedobear is used to EXPOSE (and mock... ok, mostly mock) any hint of pedoness, so real pedos would be reaaaaaaly dumb to hide their pedobooty with a tech trick and then stamp a big "hey everyone, this shit is pedoshit" picture on it.
Then again, cops like to set up honeypots for really dumb criminals, so maybe this is the new "you've won a free boat!" trick.
I'll fully admit I have no knowledge of whether the real pedophile community has adopted the image to communicate with each other. If (and its a big if) the police have real (i.e. not hypothetical) knowledge that real pedophiles use the image to communicate with each other, then the warning is appropriate (maybe they have undercovers in pedophile forums?). [...] I can't really dispute because I have no idea what those guys are doing!
So, despite your uncertainty and your doubts, you fear that hypothetical danger?
*sigh*, it's such a depressingly efficacious public relations technique.
have you been hanging out in REAL pedophile forums?
(nice try, officer)
My favorite is from the show How It's Made.
They said, "when complete it weighs 10 pounds, about the weight of a full-grown cat."
For the next 2 years, my roomates and I refered to weights in terms of full-grown cats.
I've been using the Standard Midget as a way to describe volumes since college: "That suitcase can hold two midgets..."
Thanks for godwining a perfectly good topic.
Yeah? Well that's like... your opinion, man.
That posts really held the thread together.
And that video is a video of people talking about cats in a store, with a few quick shots of cats. It is NOT a video of cats loose in a store, so it's viral FALSE advertising. I loved Ikea before, now I like them less.
PEDO BEAR is becoming a tool for pedophile to use.
I have doubts about the certainty of your fears. Do you have proof? You wouldn't just be saying that based on absolutely nothing, would you?
Nice that the Sheriff does issue at least an explanation with appropriate warning.
You misspelled "hysterical".
This summary is blatantly false after even only thirty seconds of looking at its links - for example:
The Pedo Bear began as an online Japanese cartoon character, and is known for his "lecherous nature" towards prepubescent children.
Recently, pedophiles have adopted the bear as a mascot.
The summary omits that transition part, wherein the only valid application of Pedobear is that of a joke, and pedophiles haven't picked it up and ran with it.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Which pedophiles, when, and where? Be precise, name names.
Once you're done with that, look up what "FUD" means, you'll obviously learn new things.
So to recap, in three rounds of replies you've gone from:
"What's wrong with editing for impact?"
to
"He doesn't edit anything! You're a liar!"
No, I know that every bit of news, ever, has been edited, and therefore know that one news source saying "OMG that other guy has done editing" is a distraction tactic to stop you from hearing what's being said. I will know you're an idiot so long as you fail to explain what -=exactly=- has been done as part of this "editing" process you hate with such a passion, and how exactly those things are a)not ok and b)not done by your own sources? Be very careful about b), you've quote Fox News (winners of the "we're allowed to knowingly lie in the news" lawsuit).
"OMG your sources are bullshit!" + Grammar Nazi.
Your sources ARE bullshit! You should be ashamed of trotting them out. Seriously.
They're guilty of =intentionally misleading= editing. They do it routinely. And you, in your blatant jingo bias, want other people to dismiss wikileaks because of those shameless liars accusing wikileaks of "editing". Mysterious, ominous editing.
Fine. Here's an interview of Assange saying explicitly that he edited that video and presented that edited video to the public
Again, editing a video and showing it to the public is NOT A BAD THING. It's perfectly normal, good and honest behavior for someone who wants the world to know something. And further more, you're showing me a video of the guy honestly saying he did it, and you think that's going to make me think he's dishonest...
What you defend in your shrill, babyish cries of "but but but he edited the video for impact!" is the continued murder of thousands upon thousands of people, and the lies of the pentagon told to justify their murders, lies that I don't claim vaguely they may have possibly implied through mysterious editing (as you would), lies I can quote verbatim: ''There is no question that coalition forces were clearly engaged in combat operations against a hostile force,'' said Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl, a spokesman for the multinational forces in Baghdad.
And if you go and watch the videos (edited or unedited) you will not find a hostile force clearly engaged in combat with that helicopter.
But you'll defend that too, because you are dishonestly 'patriotic', whatever wrongs your side does you'll say didn't happen, and when someone points out those murderous lies, you'll whine "editing" rejoice when the spokesperson for the truth is being kompromat.
So, when you complain about "editing", the other idiots in your echo chamber will pat you on the back for catapulting the propaganda, but you out yourself as a brainless idiot to anyone capable of critical thinking, because intelligent people know that "editing" is part of the normal process of news disclosure, and you're pretending it isn't (or more likely, ignorantly parroting the lines you were fed without the intelligence needed to actively pretend).
Only in the broadest, generic sense of plot and character type.
If I talk about the feared ruler of a desert planet who feeds people to a giant worm as punishment, and I tell you that character has the body of a worm with a humanoid torso/head up top... I'm describing Leto II, god-emperor of Dune. Or Jabba the hut, whichever.
And a galactic empire's capital planet, covered by a world-wide city, is that place named Coruscant or Trantor?
etc.
Everything in SW was borrowed, recycled, and then claimed as Lucas' own. That's what made him great (a billionaire) where others remained obscure: Taking from the greats, and passing it off as his own.
It take a bit of a leap involving original content creation to take Flash Gordon and a movie set in feudal japan about two farmers and a general getting the princess her crown back and end up with the entire universe that is Star Wars.
If those are the only two things you know he ripped off, you're severely lacking in sci-fi culture.
Now kindly stop sucking Assange's dick for a few minutes
The atlantic right and fox news? You're projecting your own dick sucking on other people.
I bet you think Jeff Gannon is the most reliable name in news.
Maybe - just maybe - you're also bias.
Maybe, just maybe, I'm also biased; but you, you are indubitably biased. Get out of your far-right echo chamber once in a while, take a breather from all the hate and the fear.
i figure he meant being honest about the fact that they're corrupt.
Of course that's what the fool meant, but it's someone else denouncing them.
It's refreshing to hear some honesty in business.
How the flying fuck do you get 'honesty' from "SF Weekly says interviews conducted with several former Zynga workers indicate that the practice of stealing other companies' game ideas — and then using Zynga's market clout to crowd out the games' originators — was business as usual."?
Former employees revealing a company's theft of IP != honesty in business.
You know there is nothing original in Star Wars, or in Avatar? It's all recycled material lifted from earlier, less rich&famous sources.
It's the same for inventions, the guy who ends up with the patent isn't necessarily the guy who innovated.
Surely you jest - this site shows the beauty that is out there ;)
GOD HATES EPILEPTICS!
So you don't care that what you're being given may not be the whole story?
I care that they always give the whole unedited material, and that you claim publicly that they do not.
Lies lies lies, it's what you spew.
Most criminals who get caught are just not that bright.
ftfy
And none of that addresses the fact that he admits to editing documents and videos for impact.
Oh noes! For impact! That's the worse thing someone can do with powerful material, presenting it for maximum impact! No one but the evil Wikileaks does it, too!
If you believe I'm mistaken, just provide a link which supports your contention.
You're all "oh noes, he COULD do something" and now you want me to provide a link proving that that thing hasn't happened? Eat a bowl of dicks.
Damn partisan morons.
Said the guy who made this partisan.
We live in a democracy, and we need to know what is happening in order to make democratic choices.
In Propaganda (1928), Bernays argued that the manipulation of public opinion was a necessary part of democracy:
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind. "