it was changed to prevent confusion with Star Trek II: The Revenge of Khan, which was in production at the same time.
Not at all. Lucas has said that he decided to change it because "revenge" was not something a proper Jedi would pursue.
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The first problem's not that hard, but the storage for it is a big problem. You have to keep around all of the pi digits prior to the end of your most distant dataset instance
Nope. I forget if it was mentioned in the article, but I know it's been mentioned in discussion here multiple times and there was a slashdot article a few days back about the algorithm that can find any digit of pi without knowing the digits before it. "Give me digit 93284720983472830 of pi", it performs a computation, and you got it.
That's why this is a (potentially) cool deal. You give me the position to start at and the length of the message, and I'll pump it through my algorithm and recreate the message. I don't need a preexisting copy of pi.
The really problem is the SEARCHING for the data, which you seemed to blow off in your theorizing-remarks...;)
Nope.
Has to be RANDOM for that to happen - completely normalized. Which is the point of this theory.
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but anything infinite already contains everything finite
So, 1/3 written as an infinite, repeating decimal in base 10 (.333333...) contains the source code to the Linux kernal? or the base 10 number 4, for that matter?
The key to the theory is not that pi is infinite, because infinite don't mean squat - it's that it is infinite, completely random, and completely normal.
THAT's how you contain everything infinite. If the theory is correct, the source code to kernal 2.4 is in there, somewhere, but maybe not somewhere where we'd EVERY find it in our lifetime even via a large scale exhaustive search. If the theory is INCORRECT, the source may not be in there at all...
Define intelligence - on what level are you speaking? "Intelligence," as it refers to Artificial Intelligence, does NOT mean sentience. The media has twisted the term to the point where the random passer-by hears the term "Artificial Intelligence" and automatically thinks of human-like robots running around trying to compete with mankind. A certain summer movie this year has perpetuated that myth.
There IS "artificial intelligence" in computer software all over. Whatever o/s or browser you're using right now has some level of A.I. built into it. The phrase means much more than you're giving it credit.
I guess, to conclude, yes, imitation of intelligent acts IS infact intelligence - of the artificial variety. Sentience.... we could talk about the logistics of that one for years....;)
I'm concentrating on Artificial Intellgience in my MS. Computer Science, and in day one of the first A.I. class years ago, we spent 2 hours "defining" A.I. We looked at different books, websites, etc etc. Here's the conclusion we stuck with in every class in every A.I. sequence since then -
"Artificial Intelligence is the field of computing in which we program computers to automatically accomplish tasks that most humans consider to require "intelligence""
We had our def. of A.I. down, but spent a further few weeks trying to define "intelligence.":) But it's always been widely accepted that Expert Systems is a niche field of the broader "Artificial Intelligence", so that guy a few posts back needs to chill.
I live in Fresno, California where most of the summer is spent in triple digit temperatures. Most of us don't have the money lying around to run the A/C all day so we rely on ceiling fans and window fans at such. As you may imagine, taking "cold showers" on such days, when it's still north of 90 degrees at 9pm, feels VERY nice. I, for one, turn the faucet all the way cold, see the temp is in the 70's based on the digital thermometer in the shower plumbing, and enjoy. With ambient temperature in the stuffy, closed up bathroom easily North of 90 degrees, one can use the chimney effect philosophy to assume that the temp. difference should draw the air DOWN and plaster that curtain up against the tub.
But it doesn't.:)
I for one am a believer in the hurricane effect and applaud this gentleman's curiosity and his ability to get up and do something about it other than assume that past theories are correct, with no real research.
What's hilarious is that I am currently logged into Morpheus, which is a free, distributed network client that does all the media you just described, and there's almost the exact same number of people logged in (440k) and gigabytes shared (208k GB).
Morpheus is wonderful. If it finds that more than one person has the exact same file you're trying to download, it will download it from everyone who has it at once so your 200kps DSL doesn't have to wait for one person's 56k modem.
A step in the right direction - but it's still legal to track cars with GPS? How about a system like Lojack or what not that can be used by law enforcement only when needed instead of gratuitously tracking renter's every move?
Though they're obviously jumping the gun by giving the "Corpus" this psych test, the people at Mindpixel never claimed that GAC was AI. The whole point of the "Mindpixel corpus" that is GAC is merely to construct a knowledge base of human knowledge.
I did a report on Artificial Consciousness a few months ago the plan isn't for the corpus to wake up one day and be intelligent, but rather to be able to train a neural network with the knowledge.
Since they didn't plan to do that till 2010, one wonders what exactly they're going test...
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it was changed to prevent confusion with Star Trek II: The Revenge of Khan, which was in production at the same time.
Not at all. Lucas has said that he decided to change it because "revenge" was not something a proper Jedi would pursue.
The first problem's not that hard, but the storage for it is a big problem. You have to keep around all of the pi digits prior to the end of your most distant dataset instance
;)
Nope. I forget if it was mentioned in the article, but I know it's been mentioned in discussion here multiple times and there was a slashdot article a few days back about the algorithm that can find any digit of pi without knowing the digits before it. "Give me digit 93284720983472830 of pi", it performs a computation, and you got it.
That's why this is a (potentially) cool deal. You give me the position to start at and the length of the message, and I'll pump it through my algorithm and recreate the message. I don't need a preexisting copy of pi.
The really problem is the SEARCHING for the data, which you seemed to blow off in your theorizing-remarks...
Nope.
Has to be RANDOM for that to happen - completely normalized. Which is the point of this theory.
but anything infinite already contains everything finite
So, 1/3 written as an infinite, repeating decimal in base 10 (.333333...) contains the source code to the Linux kernal? or the base 10 number 4, for that matter?
The key to the theory is not that pi is infinite, because infinite don't mean squat - it's that it is infinite, completely random, and completely normal.
THAT's how you contain everything infinite. If the theory is correct, the source code to kernal 2.4 is in there, somewhere, but maybe not somewhere where we'd EVERY find it in our lifetime even via a large scale exhaustive search. If the theory is INCORRECT, the source may not be in there at all...
Who cares if it runs Linux. I'm not programming on my PDA.
:)
I think the point is not programming ON your PDA, but programming FOR your PDA in the environment we all know and love.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
Define intelligence - on what level are you speaking? "Intelligence," as it refers to Artificial Intelligence, does NOT mean sentience. The media has twisted the term to the point where the random passer-by hears the term "Artificial Intelligence" and automatically thinks of human-like robots running around trying to compete with mankind. A certain summer movie this year has perpetuated that myth.
;)
There IS "artificial intelligence" in computer software all over. Whatever o/s or browser you're using right now has some level of A.I. built into it. The phrase means much more than you're giving it credit.
I guess, to conclude, yes, imitation of intelligent acts IS infact intelligence - of the artificial variety. Sentience.... we could talk about the logistics of that one for years....
I'm concentrating on Artificial Intellgience in my MS. Computer Science, and in day one of the first A.I. class years ago, we spent 2 hours "defining" A.I. We looked at different books, websites, etc etc. Here's the conclusion we stuck with in every class in every A.I. sequence since then -
:) But it's always been widely accepted that Expert Systems is a niche field of the broader "Artificial Intelligence", so that guy a few posts back needs to chill.
"Artificial Intelligence is the field of computing in which we program computers to automatically accomplish tasks that most humans consider to require "intelligence""
We had our def. of A.I. down, but spent a further few weeks trying to define "intelligence."
I live in Fresno, California where most of the summer is spent in triple digit temperatures. Most of us don't have the money lying around to run the A/C all day so we rely on ceiling fans and window fans at such.
:)
As you may imagine, taking "cold showers" on such days, when it's still north of 90 degrees at 9pm, feels VERY nice. I, for one, turn the faucet all the way cold, see the temp is in the 70's based on the digital thermometer in the shower plumbing, and enjoy. With ambient temperature in the stuffy, closed up bathroom easily North of 90 degrees, one can use the chimney effect philosophy to assume that the temp. difference should draw the air DOWN and plaster that curtain up against the tub.
But it doesn't.
I for one am a believer in the hurricane effect and applaud this gentleman's curiosity and his ability to get up and do something about it other than assume that past theories are correct, with no real research.
What's hilarious is that I am currently logged into Morpheus, which is a free, distributed network client that does all the media you just described, and there's almost the exact same number of people logged in (440k) and gigabytes shared (208k GB).
Morpheus is wonderful. If it finds that more than one person has the exact same file you're trying to download, it will download it from everyone who has it at once so your 200kps DSL doesn't have to wait for one person's 56k modem.
www.musiccity.com is where you'll find it.
I did a report on Artificial Consciousness a few months ago the plan isn't for the corpus to wake up one day and be intelligent, but rather to be able to train a neural network with the knowledge.
Since they didn't plan to do that till 2010, one wonders what exactly they're going test...