Dude I ran OS/2 2.0 on a 386 DX/40 machine with 8 megs of ram and it ran perfectly. OS/2 2.1 raised the bar, but it wasn't that bad.
I ran a multi-node BBS on a 486 DX2/66 with 12 megs of ram for at least 2 years. I was able to run Wordperfect 6.0 in a seamless session and two dos sessions simultaneously all the time on that machine. It ran just fine.
So, what you're saying here is, when the minority of people in Paris are white, the majority of people are going to vote themselves out of the country? Who's bullshitting, again?
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the significance Paris plays in the history of France. When that city becomes minority white, and that is projected to occur in 10-20 years, people will realize much more so that their civilization is on the way out. That is what conquering groups do, they displace the native inhabitants. Your sentence is incomprehsnsible to me, but I hope this clarifies things for you.
Twenty percent doesn't sound like much of a majority to me.
Did I say it was a majority? It is a start, and that is the LAST election which occurred just over a year ago.
Are Nazi assholes. If your race is so damned masterful, then why do you feel the need to spout these racist fantasies? Does it help you sleep better at night? Don't worry about it. When you people are a mere 1-2% of the population, we'll still let you work the drive-thru window. Or maybe you can pick tomatoes for us.
No, I am not a racist. Nor do I feel that white people are "masterful" as you put it. If that were the case, they would not be in danger of losing their homeland. What I do believe is white people have a right to their small continent, just as Jews have a right to Israel and Arabs have a right to (without that sliver of Israel I suppose). The foreign population of France has no reason to be there, they have their own countries. They should pursue their own destiny there. Why is that so much to ask?
If the vision you have is one of enslaving the white race, I am sure you will be met with resistence. Isn't it better to not allow the opportunity for groups to exploit one another? Why should races coexist where the majority exploits the minority? What I do know is that any time a foreign people displace the original inhabitants of a particular land, the result is full of bloodshed. People do not give up their homeland without a fight.
It should give you pause when a solid fifth of a country aggrees with me. What happens when that fifth becomes a half? Right now, there is a sufficient number of young frenchman who see their 1000 year history disappearing before their eyes. These frenchman are tired of their sisters being raped, the high taxes to pay for foreigners, and the lack of low end jobs that shift to the minority races. They walk down the streets of their historic capital and they don't even feel like they are in their own country.
It is amazing what several million young men can do, given the impetus. I think you will be surprised what happens.
Maybe it is destined for the people of Europe to be displaced, but I can assure you it won't happen without a fight.
Um... are you sure you're talking about France? Sorry, but you Nazi assholes already had your chance, and you blew it. People are going to remember that shit for a lot longer than ten or twenty years
Why don't you read up on French Politics. You are quite mistaken. The simple fact is a solid 30% of the French citizenry outside of Paris voted for the man whose party platform is anti-egalitarian. Whatever else you may be bullshitting about, the simple fact is France is not the egalitarian paradise the parent-poster seems to believe.
Let's be honest. France, and Europe in general, is much more egalitarian and pays much more attention to human rights than America does these days.
Tell that to Jean-Marie Le Pen. France is going to be the beginning of the ethnic nationalism once more, as people fed up with egalitarian bullshit. People realize that all people are NOT equal. It was a myth created as a tool of social control, it is as unnatural as green blood.
Paris is not at all representative of France as a whole, and I guarantee you within the next 10-20 years, every non-white person will be forced back to their country of origin. A solid 20% of the French population supports such a policy, when Paris becomes minority white in the next 10-20 years that percentage will rise even higher.
The same thing is true in the Netherlands.
Only someone subjected to years of propaganda could possibly admit that egalitarianism has done anything but destroy Europe. Fascism is the only possible savior of Europe, people are tired of the endless conflict, corruption, and decadence associated with democracy, nevermind sick egalitarian visions.
Europe is dying, its culture is dead, its people look with fondness on a past that seems but a distant memory. Their hearts yearn for the greatness and purpose of the days of old. White people are going to be a slight 1-2% of the world's popluation in just 50 years. In the heartland of Europe, England and France, white people will be a minority in their own homelands in that time. If you think egalitarianism is going to surmount those statistics, I think you are gravely mistaken.
No, I think the future is going to be very surprising for people such as yourself.
It was never in the constitution to begin with. It was a precedent set by George Washington. In 1951 the 22nd amendment was ratified setting a two term limit.
Thanks for the history lesson. This is relevent how?
The parent poster was simply stating to the grantparent that congress doesn't have the power to change term limits, who cares if there was a tradition which lead to the constitution being changed? It has been changed, and thats it.
Also, Article 21 repeals article 18(prohibition) so obviously the constitution can be changed.
Amendments can be repealed but that is not something CONGRESS can do. That is the entire reason for this discussion.
True, but a lot of people thought Einstein and Newton were crazy too
What are you talking about. Newton's Principia was recognized as a monumental work in his lifetime. He became an international celebrity as a result of that work. That is the book which discusses the motion of planets and from which Newton basically invented differential calculus (not too discussed in the book).
Oh, Newton's famous laws are in there too.
Einstein was perhaps controversial in his lifetime, but no one thought the man was crazy. Maybe he was a little dishonest and failed to acknolwedge the source of many of his ideas, but his theories were fundamentally sound. The only controversey was the conflict between him and the irrationality of quantum mechanics.
I think you may be confusing Newton and Eistein with Copernicus and Galileo? I don't know. But they were hardly martyrs, and they enjoyed fame for much of their lives.
I'm sure that in Africa where they eat one meal a day they weight more than American white males who eat 4000-5000 calories a day. How do you figure?
I am not familiar with Diabetes in Africa, but I can tell you that someone who eats 5000 calories a day will have to expend a great deal amount of energy to stay thin. I don't know why you are using those numbers, but an hour of vigorous bike riding only requirs 500-700 calories. Someone who consumes 5000 calories a day would have to work out several hours a day otherwise excess calories will be stored as fat.
Why are there more black basketball players, more black track stars, more black marathon runners and atheletes?
That is primarily an American phenomenon. The state of the American negro is caused directly by selective breeding and is the best evidence we have that eugenics works. I mean, you wrote Mein Kampf didn't you? You talk about this same subject! Does anyone really think slave buyers would buy a weak slave? No, you would buy the strongest one and encourage his breeding.
Eating habits yes, because but my point is diabetes has more to do with eating habits than weight. Thank you for supporting my arguement. Its also not rare amoung Asians. Diabetes is rare amoung whites.
Did you not read my link? Are you that fucking stupid? I just provided you with conclusive evidence YOU ARE WRONG. 75% of the world's oriental population is in China, and they have a diabetes rate 1/6 that of the US. How the fuck can you possibly say they have a higher incidence of diabetes? Are you living in a fantasy world?
Again, you have to clarify. If you mean "asian" in the way the US census means asian, as in far east and south east asian slant eyes, then you are clearly wrong. If you mean asian by the continent upon which people live... I don't know, diabetes does exist with western frequency in Russia and Arabia, but I couldn't be sure and it will take too much time to find out.
Now for the proof to shut you up once and for all.
Diabetes Gene
That gene is a gene which mostly effects hispanics.
When you aquire metobolic syndrome is 100% genetic.
http://www.advanceforal.com/common/editorial/edi to rial.aspx?CC=27116
This is the syndrome which throws your metabolism off balance to allow you to enter pre-diabetes stage.
You think a 100 word article is going to provide proof?
Sheesh...
Try and cite a major medical journal I can look up in the National Library of Medicine at least. Then i can at least see some basics behind the study.
And look at the very first sentence taken from the second link you have posted "Specific genetic markers may influence whether a person develops metabolic syndrome"
That is hardly what I call proof.
Our understanding of genetics is so weak right now all they can do is search for genes in population tests they believe occurr at a greater frequency than normal. They then test the frequency of those genes in an affected population. They have no understanding of the process by which those genes can have any effect on any disease, thus it is purely a statistical analysis which for the forseeable future is useless (Until the protein folding problem is solved)
I am not saying there is not a genetic factor per se, but it is a preliminary theory as is our entire theory of genetics. We are talking about a science that is only a few years old, and there are a lot of unknowns.
The point is just this, 111 kilos is vastly superior to your presumed normal weight of 75 kilos.
You admit there is a relationship between weight and the onset of diabetes. The problem of causation you mention is very interesting... I hope you give that some more though.
Looks like you have made substantial progress, good luck to you and I hope you can eventually reach 75 kg.
Why don't you try and expend some brain energy there and explain to me what the fuck you are talking about.
Without knowing for sure, all I can say is that it is a proven fact that caloric restriction results in longer life. Routinely starving yourself is the only known path to longer life. Sorry if you can't accept that, but anorexia is hardly the problem fat people wish it was.
Never the less, I don't understand why you brought that up.
That may very well be the case. One thing I didn't want to get into is the issue of caloric density. It is clear our ancestors consumed sugar in the form of fruit, not starches found in plants. The caloric density in an apple is far less than a potato for instance.
But still, such a theory is difficult to prove. It also doesn't help in conveying why sugar is not de fact the cause of type II diabetes.
I personally believe the lack of fat in our diets is the cause more than anything, the bread without the butter. Perhaps it isnt the peak of the spike in blood sugar but the corresponding "valley" which occurs when fat is not consumed. When you consume fat with a meal, the delay absorbtion of the calories due to the time it takes bile to break down the fat results in a blood sugar level that doesn't drop as quickly.
In order to successfully argue that theory however, you need to believe that humans evolved to be preadtors, because fat is only found in abundance in nature in other animals. This is very difficult for many to accept.
I don't know how this turned into a racial discussion, but your facts are ridiculous. Negroes on average weigh more than Whites. That is a fact. This is apparent to anyone who cares to walk around a major US city in which they reside. Best bet, check out Manhattan. There, the dichotomy is most severe.
I am not familiar with other racial studies, but from what I see on the streets orientals are rarely overweight.
Perhaps there is a genetic disorder that causes type II diabetes, but the frequency of this disease has increased far too rapidly in the last 10 years alone to be explained by that alone. I have read studies regarding populations of orientals, and there is a much higher incidence of Type II diabetes in Hong Kong than the rest of China. That supports a dietary difference, and not a genetic one. This same study I read just recently highly contradicts your statements regarding orientals. Diabetes is rare amongst them . Of course, you could be using term "asian" to apply to all people on that continent of which the minority are orientals. If that is the case, you could be right. I don't know. I am not familiar with statistics regarding Arabia for instance.
But even though I don't know it off the top of my head, I am smart enough to check the World Health Organization's Website. As you can see, there are 20,756,772 people in China with the disorder. That is out of a population of over 1 billion. Now look at the United States with over 17,701,942 cases, out of a population of 280 million.
Think about that chief. Clearly, you have not gotten your facts from any reputable source. I will accept your challenge, only because I am an ardent National Socialist. But first, you will have to revise your criteria. I can't explain why Asians get diabetes with greater frequency BECAUSE IT ISN'T TRUE.
The genetic argument is also JUST A THEORY. No specific gene has been identified that can be proven in a large scale test.
Are you aware that what we know as human civilization rose to further the production of refined carbohydrates? Would cities ever have been formed if agriculture had not been invented? Where would the western world be without bread?
The refined carbohydrates you believe are the cause of Type II diabetes have been consumed now for over 5000 years. This is a disorder that did not even exist 100 years ago, and barely existed 40 years ago. What has changed? Until you explain THAT, everything you think you know is completely irrelevent.
I don't need to do a study because it is very clear to me that the problem is fundamentally more complicated than "refined sugars". If what you say is true, human civilization would be vastly different from what it has been. Now, I do believe that the lack of fat in the diet is related to this. It is not the type of sugar, but the abscence of fat which destablizes blood sugar levels. There is a reason why its always been bread and butter and not just bread.
Honestly, I have at least 50 studies which can back what I am saying, but I am not going to bother. This is fucking slashdot, its not like anyone bothers to check citations. But go on ignoring human history... I don't give a fuck. The example you give is total bullshit. People eat rice every morning all over the world. People used to eat bread every morning as well. If you want to argue that behavior is the cause, go for it. Ultimately YOU WILL BE WRONG. Remember this post in a few years when people finally give up arguing such ridiculous theories that are completely contradictory to tradition and history.
PS: I meant to say 15% body fat... I still stand by that number. the VERY FEW people who have diabetes in that range have some other disease of the pancreas. Either that, or they have Type I diabetes and people are mistaken.
Actually, I have gone through heroin withdrawal. THAT is withdrawal. I have gone on and off consuming caffeine and cigarettes here and there, but less frequently these days.
Nicotine and caffeine withdrawal is bullshit in comparison.
You think headaches are a problem? try not being able to sleep for days, incredible body aches, not being able to sit still for more than a minute, not being able to think clearly even for a moment... the worst flue you have ever had (of which headache is just one aspect). The worst torture you can imagine, that can be cured with a tiny amount of powder that costs you about $20.
No, I can tell you with absolute certainty it is YOU that have no conception of what withdrawal can really be, otherwise we would not even be having this discussion.
After 30 years of messing with people's diets, the average citizen is now keenly aware that the medical establishment doesn't know jack shit about what they should eat. People will try anything now.
There is some truth to the Atkins diet, but its now some sick industry. People should just go back to eating the way we did 50 years ago. Just watch a 50's TV show sometime. Get some Depression era photographs. People LOOKED healthy back then. It is very clear.
Remember, the same bureaucrats who created dietary guidelines also revolutionized the educational system and thought housing projects would eliminate poverty. The sad fact is diet fads are one of the last idealistic trends of the 1960's. Like everything else of that era, it was wrong and destructive.
You are addicted to air but no one is complaining.
The difference is coffee has no conclusive health risks, whereas cigarettes have many definite health risks.
Addiction in and of itself only matters when the addiction can become a problem in and of itself. Not drinking coffee one day will not result in your completely losing your mind and screaming for hours on end like heroin withdrawal can. In fact, it won't even make you as obtuse as nicotine withdrawal.
Type II diabetes is not caused by "refined sugar" it is caused by excess consumption of food in general, irrespective of the source. All food is broken down into glucose, even fat. That glucose then exists in your blood stream where it is used, and excess glucose is stored as fat. This is the function of insulin, it is the opposite of adrenalin. Rather that convert stored fat to energy, it does the opposite.
The problem is there is a finite amount of insulin that can be produced, and it appears that with excessive food consumption, the body loses its ability to accurately determine how much insulin is necessary at a given time. No one knows how or why this happens.
What is known is it is impossible to acquire Type II diabetes if you have less than 5% body fat. A person of normal weight has zero chance of acquiring the disorder.
All the discussion of refined sugar is simply a way to mask the simple fact Type II diabetes is a disease caused by vice, and that vice is gluttony.
fuck you. Just go see a doctor for some cream to put on that swollen penis of yours. The redness will go away, and you won't be such a bitchy prick anymore. You should stop masturbating 10 times a day to avoid that kind of rash in the future however.
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I can tell you from personal experience that it is the intoxication that keeps alcohol from completeing destroying our society. The vast majority of people in this world would not even consider being drunk all the time.
Heroin and cocaine however leave you feeling completely in control, MORE in control than alcohol or even sobriety. Cocaine makes you think clearly and feel awake, heroin makes you feel like you are in heaven. Someone could tell you your mother was just shot and you would still think the world was beautiful.
Hate your job? Can't stand being there? Can't focus long enough to get anything done? You could EASILY convince yourself its no problem to do heroin at work and take a bump of coke when you feel a little tired. You would probably do your job BETTER and no one would notice.
Except when you tried to quit, and you missed work all the time because you were too sick to go.
All modern processors since the Pentium II NexGen Nx586 and the subsequent AMD K6 have stopped using CISC instructions in the actual microcode. They are all risc processors that translate the instructions into the native format.
The NexGen processor was really the first to do this, and it did have a mode to switch from 386 mode to its native risc mode. That was removed after AMD purchased the company.
This was a big deal back in the day, because everyone was complaining about how CISC was doomed to failure and that RISC was the future. If the idea of emulating an architecture was never implimented, they would have been right.
Perhaps thats true.
But don't you think Windows compatibility would greatly affect linux adoption in corporate america?
Linux suffers from the same fate OS/2 did, a serious lack of high quality apps.
Dude I ran OS/2 2.0 on a 386 DX/40 machine with 8 megs of ram and it ran perfectly. OS/2 2.1 raised the bar, but it wasn't that bad.
I ran a multi-node BBS on a 486 DX2/66 with 12 megs of ram for at least 2 years. I was able to run Wordperfect 6.0 in a seamless session and two dos sessions simultaneously all the time on that machine. It ran just fine.
So, what you're saying here is, when the minority of people in Paris are white, the majority of people are going to vote themselves out of the country? Who's bullshitting, again?
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the significance Paris plays in the history of France. When that city becomes minority white, and that is projected to occur in 10-20 years, people will realize much more so that their civilization is on the way out. That is what conquering groups do, they displace the native inhabitants. Your sentence is incomprehsnsible to me, but I hope this clarifies things for you.
Twenty percent doesn't sound like much of a majority to me.
Did I say it was a majority? It is a start, and that is the LAST election which occurred just over a year ago.
Are Nazi assholes. If your race is so damned masterful, then why do you feel the need to spout these racist fantasies? Does it help you sleep better at night? Don't worry about it. When you people are a mere 1-2% of the population, we'll still let you work the drive-thru window. Or maybe you can pick tomatoes for us.
No, I am not a racist. Nor do I feel that white people are "masterful" as you put it. If that were the case, they would not be in danger of losing their homeland. What I do believe is white people have a right to their small continent, just as Jews have a right to Israel and Arabs have a right to (without that sliver of Israel I suppose). The foreign population of France has no reason to be there, they have their own countries. They should pursue their own destiny there. Why is that so much to ask?
If the vision you have is one of enslaving the white race, I am sure you will be met with resistence. Isn't it better to not allow the opportunity for groups to exploit one another? Why should races coexist where the majority exploits the minority? What I do know is that any time a foreign people displace the original inhabitants of a particular land, the result is full of bloodshed. People do not give up their homeland without a fight.
It should give you pause when a solid fifth of a country aggrees with me. What happens when that fifth becomes a half? Right now, there is a sufficient number of young frenchman who see their 1000 year history disappearing before their eyes. These frenchman are tired of their sisters being raped, the high taxes to pay for foreigners, and the lack of low end jobs that shift to the minority races. They walk down the streets of their historic capital and they don't even feel like they are in their own country.
It is amazing what several million young men can do, given the impetus. I think you will be surprised what happens.
Maybe it is destined for the people of Europe to be displaced, but I can assure you it won't happen without a fight.
Just think of how much better the 1990's could have been if the entire IBM organization pre-empted Windows 95 by 3.5 solid years.
Um... are you sure you're talking about France? Sorry, but you Nazi assholes already had your chance, and you blew it. People are going to remember that shit for a lot longer than ten or twenty years
Why don't you read up on French Politics. You are quite mistaken. The simple fact is a solid 30% of the French citizenry outside of Paris voted for the man whose party platform is anti-egalitarian. Whatever else you may be bullshitting about, the simple fact is France is not the egalitarian paradise the parent-poster seems to believe.
Let's be honest. France, and Europe in general, is much more egalitarian and pays much more attention to human rights than America does these days.
Tell that to Jean-Marie Le Pen. France is going to be the beginning of the ethnic nationalism once more, as people fed up with egalitarian bullshit. People realize that all people are NOT equal. It was a myth created as a tool of social control, it is as unnatural as green blood.
Paris is not at all representative of France as a whole, and I guarantee you within the next 10-20 years, every non-white person will be forced back to their country of origin. A solid 20% of the French population supports such a policy, when Paris becomes minority white in the next 10-20 years that percentage will rise even higher.
The same thing is true in the Netherlands.
Only someone subjected to years of propaganda could possibly admit that egalitarianism has done anything but destroy Europe. Fascism is the only possible savior of Europe, people are tired of the endless conflict, corruption, and decadence associated with democracy, nevermind sick egalitarian visions.
Europe is dying, its culture is dead, its people look with fondness on a past that seems but a distant memory. Their hearts yearn for the greatness and purpose of the days of old. White people are going to be a slight 1-2% of the world's popluation in just 50 years. In the heartland of Europe, England and France, white people will be a minority in their own homelands in that time. If you think egalitarianism is going to surmount those statistics, I think you are gravely mistaken.
No, I think the future is going to be very surprising for people such as yourself.
It was never in the constitution to begin with. It was a precedent set by George Washington. In 1951 the 22nd amendment was ratified setting a two term limit.
Thanks for the history lesson. This is relevent how?
The parent poster was simply stating to the grantparent that congress doesn't have the power to change term limits, who cares if there was a tradition which lead to the constitution being changed? It has been changed, and thats it.
Also, Article 21 repeals article 18(prohibition) so obviously the constitution can be changed.
Amendments can be repealed but that is not something CONGRESS can do. That is the entire reason for this discussion.
True, but a lot of people thought Einstein and Newton were crazy too
What are you talking about. Newton's Principia was recognized as a monumental work in his lifetime. He became an international celebrity as a result of that work. That is the book which discusses the motion of planets and from which Newton basically invented differential calculus (not too discussed in the book).
Oh, Newton's famous laws are in there too.
Einstein was perhaps controversial in his lifetime, but no one thought the man was crazy. Maybe he was a little dishonest and failed to acknolwedge the source of many of his ideas, but his theories were fundamentally sound. The only controversey was the conflict between him and the irrationality of quantum mechanics.
I think you may be confusing Newton and Eistein with Copernicus and Galileo? I don't know. But they were hardly martyrs, and they enjoyed fame for much of their lives.
I'm sure that in Africa where they eat one meal a day they weight more than American white males who eat 4000-5000 calories a day. How do you figure?
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I am not familiar with Diabetes in Africa, but I can tell you that someone who eats 5000 calories a day will have to expend a great deal amount of energy to stay thin. I don't know why you are using those numbers, but an hour of vigorous bike riding only requirs 500-700 calories. Someone who consumes 5000 calories a day would have to work out several hours a day otherwise excess calories will be stored as fat.
Why are there more black basketball players, more black track stars, more black marathon runners and atheletes?
That is primarily an American phenomenon. The state of the American negro is caused directly by selective breeding and is the best evidence we have that eugenics works. I mean, you wrote Mein Kampf didn't you? You talk about this same subject! Does anyone really think slave buyers would buy a weak slave? No, you would buy the strongest one and encourage his breeding.
Eating habits yes, because but my point is diabetes has more to do with eating habits than weight. Thank you for supporting my arguement. Its also not rare amoung Asians. Diabetes is rare amoung whites.
Did you not read my link? Are you that fucking stupid? I just provided you with conclusive evidence YOU ARE WRONG. 75% of the world's oriental population is in China, and they have a diabetes rate 1/6 that of the US. How the fuck can you possibly say they have a higher incidence of diabetes? Are you living in a fantasy world?
Again, you have to clarify. If you mean "asian" in the way the US census means asian, as in far east and south east asian slant eyes, then you are clearly wrong. If you mean asian by the continent upon which people live... I don't know, diabetes does exist with western frequency in Russia and Arabia, but I couldn't be sure and it will take too much time to find out.
Now for the proof to shut you up once and for all.
Diabetes Gene
That gene is a gene which mostly effects hispanics.
When you aquire metobolic syndrome is 100% genetic.
http://www.advanceforal.com/common/editorial/ed
This is the syndrome which throws your metabolism off balance to allow you to enter pre-diabetes stage.
You think a 100 word article is going to provide proof?
Sheesh...
Try and cite a major medical journal I can look up in the National Library of Medicine at least. Then i can at least see some basics behind the study.
And look at the very first sentence taken from the second link you have posted "Specific genetic markers may influence whether a person develops metabolic syndrome"
That is hardly what I call proof.
Our understanding of genetics is so weak right now all they can do is search for genes in population tests they believe occurr at a greater frequency than normal. They then test the frequency of those genes in an affected population. They have no understanding of the process by which those genes can have any effect on any disease, thus it is purely a statistical analysis which for the forseeable future is useless (Until the protein folding problem is solved)
I am not saying there is not a genetic factor per se, but it is a preliminary theory as is our entire theory of genetics. We are talking about a science that is only a few years old, and there are a lot of unknowns.
I don't think that is correct, at least according to NASA's Site
The entire rover only has 128 megs ram and 3 megs on rom.
Never the less, it is interesting isn't it.
The point is just this, 111 kilos is vastly superior to your presumed normal weight of 75 kilos.
You admit there is a relationship between weight and the onset of diabetes. The problem of causation you mention is very interesting... I hope you give that some more though.
Looks like you have made substantial progress, good luck to you and I hope you can eventually reach 75 kg.
Why don't you try and expend some brain energy there and explain to me what the fuck you are talking about.
Without knowing for sure, all I can say is that it is a proven fact that caloric restriction results in longer life. Routinely starving yourself is the only known path to longer life. Sorry if you can't accept that, but anorexia is hardly the problem fat people wish it was.
Never the less, I don't understand why you brought that up.
That may very well be the case. One thing I didn't want to get into is the issue of caloric density. It is clear our ancestors consumed sugar in the form of fruit, not starches found in plants. The caloric density in an apple is far less than a potato for instance.
But still, such a theory is difficult to prove. It also doesn't help in conveying why sugar is not de fact the cause of type II diabetes.
I personally believe the lack of fat in our diets is the cause more than anything, the bread without the butter. Perhaps it isnt the peak of the spike in blood sugar but the corresponding "valley" which occurs when fat is not consumed. When you consume fat with a meal, the delay absorbtion of the calories due to the time it takes bile to break down the fat results in a blood sugar level that doesn't drop as quickly.
In order to successfully argue that theory however, you need to believe that humans evolved to be preadtors, because fat is only found in abundance in nature in other animals. This is very difficult for many to accept.
ACHTUNG!!!
I don't know how this turned into a racial discussion, but your facts are ridiculous. Negroes on average weigh more than Whites. That is a fact. This is apparent to anyone who cares to walk around a major US city in which they reside. Best bet, check out Manhattan. There, the dichotomy is most severe.
I am not familiar with other racial studies, but from what I see on the streets orientals are rarely overweight.
Perhaps there is a genetic disorder that causes type II diabetes, but the frequency of this disease has increased far too rapidly in the last 10 years alone to be explained by that alone. I have read studies regarding populations of orientals, and there is a much higher incidence of Type II diabetes in Hong Kong than the rest of China. That supports a dietary difference, and not a genetic one. This same study I read just recently highly contradicts your statements regarding orientals. Diabetes is rare amongst them . Of course, you could be using term "asian" to apply to all people on that continent of which the minority are orientals. If that is the case, you could be right. I don't know. I am not familiar with statistics regarding Arabia for instance.
But even though I don't know it off the top of my head, I am smart enough to check the World Health Organization's Website. As you can see, there are 20,756,772 people in China with the disorder. That is out of a population of over 1 billion. Now look at the United States with over 17,701,942 cases, out of a population of 280 million.
Think about that chief. Clearly, you have not gotten your facts from any reputable source. I will accept your challenge, only because I am an ardent National Socialist. But first, you will have to revise your criteria. I can't explain why Asians get diabetes with greater frequency BECAUSE IT ISN'T TRUE.
The genetic argument is also JUST A THEORY. No specific gene has been identified that can be proven in a large scale test.
Seig Heil.
I have to live with the disease. Funny... I can eat more rice than I can bread. It doesn't get digested as fast.
What is your age, weight, and height?
Are you aware that what we know as human civilization rose to further the production of refined carbohydrates? Would cities ever have been formed if agriculture had not been invented? Where would the western world be without bread?
The refined carbohydrates you believe are the cause of Type II diabetes have been consumed now for over 5000 years. This is a disorder that did not even exist 100 years ago, and barely existed 40 years ago. What has changed? Until you explain THAT, everything you think you know is completely irrelevent.
I don't need to do a study because it is very clear to me that the problem is fundamentally more complicated than "refined sugars". If what you say is true, human civilization would be vastly different from what it has been. Now, I do believe that the lack of fat in the diet is related to this. It is not the type of sugar, but the abscence of fat which destablizes blood sugar levels. There is a reason why its always been bread and butter and not just bread.
Honestly, I have at least 50 studies which can back what I am saying, but I am not going to bother. This is fucking slashdot, its not like anyone bothers to check citations. But go on ignoring human history... I don't give a fuck. The example you give is total bullshit. People eat rice every morning all over the world. People used to eat bread every morning as well. If you want to argue that behavior is the cause, go for it. Ultimately YOU WILL BE WRONG. Remember this post in a few years when people finally give up arguing such ridiculous theories that are completely contradictory to tradition and history.
PS: I meant to say 15% body fat... I still stand by that number. the VERY FEW people who have diabetes in that range have some other disease of the pancreas. Either that, or they have Type I diabetes and people are mistaken.
Dude, its called a typo. Sorry I forgot the 1.
Thanks for the clarification.
Actually, I have gone through heroin withdrawal. THAT is withdrawal. I have gone on and off consuming caffeine and cigarettes here and there, but less frequently these days.
Nicotine and caffeine withdrawal is bullshit in comparison.
You think headaches are a problem? try not being able to sleep for days, incredible body aches, not being able to sit still for more than a minute, not being able to think clearly even for a moment... the worst flue you have ever had (of which headache is just one aspect). The worst torture you can imagine, that can be cured with a tiny amount of powder that costs you about $20.
No, I can tell you with absolute certainty it is YOU that have no conception of what withdrawal can really be, otherwise we would not even be having this discussion.
After 30 years of messing with people's diets, the average citizen is now keenly aware that the medical establishment doesn't know jack shit about what they should eat. People will try anything now.
There is some truth to the Atkins diet, but its now some sick industry. People should just go back to eating the way we did 50 years ago. Just watch a 50's TV show sometime. Get some Depression era photographs. People LOOKED healthy back then. It is very clear.
Remember, the same bureaucrats who created dietary guidelines also revolutionized the educational system and thought housing projects would eliminate poverty. The sad fact is diet fads are one of the last idealistic trends of the 1960's. Like everything else of that era, it was wrong and destructive.
You are addicted to air but no one is complaining.
The difference is coffee has no conclusive health risks, whereas cigarettes have many definite health risks.
Addiction in and of itself only matters when the addiction can become a problem in and of itself. Not drinking coffee one day will not result in your completely losing your mind and screaming for hours on end like heroin withdrawal can. In fact, it won't even make you as obtuse as nicotine withdrawal.
Type II diabetes is not caused by "refined sugar" it is caused by excess consumption of food in general, irrespective of the source. All food is broken down into glucose, even fat. That glucose then exists in your blood stream where it is used, and excess glucose is stored as fat. This is the function of insulin, it is the opposite of adrenalin. Rather that convert stored fat to energy, it does the opposite.
The problem is there is a finite amount of insulin that can be produced, and it appears that with excessive food consumption, the body loses its ability to accurately determine how much insulin is necessary at a given time. No one knows how or why this happens.
What is known is it is impossible to acquire Type II diabetes if you have less than 5% body fat. A person of normal weight has zero chance of acquiring the disorder.
All the discussion of refined sugar is simply a way to mask the simple fact Type II diabetes is a disease caused by vice, and that vice is gluttony.
fuck you. Just go see a doctor for some cream to put on that swollen penis of yours. The redness will go away, and you won't be such a bitchy prick anymore. You should stop masturbating 10 times a day to avoid that kind of rash in the future however.
I can tell you from personal experience that it is the intoxication that keeps alcohol from completeing destroying our society. The vast majority of people in this world would not even consider being drunk all the time.
Heroin and cocaine however leave you feeling completely in control, MORE in control than alcohol or even sobriety. Cocaine makes you think clearly and feel awake, heroin makes you feel like you are in heaven. Someone could tell you your mother was just shot and you would still think the world was beautiful.
Hate your job? Can't stand being there? Can't focus long enough to get anything done? You could EASILY convince yourself its no problem to do heroin at work and take a bump of coke when you feel a little tired. You would probably do your job BETTER and no one would notice.
Except when you tried to quit, and you missed work all the time because you were too sick to go.
All modern processors since the Pentium II NexGen Nx586 and the subsequent AMD K6 have stopped using CISC instructions in the actual microcode. They are all risc processors that translate the instructions into the native format.
The NexGen processor was really the first to do this, and it did have a mode to switch from 386 mode to its native risc mode. That was removed after AMD purchased the company.
This was a big deal back in the day, because everyone was complaining about how CISC was doomed to failure and that RISC was the future. If the idea of emulating an architecture was never implimented, they would have been right.
Meets my needs for EverQuest and BF-1942. Never crashes during those 12 hour EQ sessions.
12 hour sessions?
No offense, but you have some needs that no Microsoft product will ever address.