Pandora is looking after Pandora's interests. I'd barely heard of this pithy organisation before last week and now they're all over the news. Just get back in your box. We don't want or need you.
You truly mustn't have a life. I'm not stressed by fat jokes. I've endured them for as long as I can remember. I'm laughing at you. You literally have nothing better to do than hold a grudge over a conversation from days ago and amuse yourself trying to annoy people. That makes you a complete joke.
I think you've horribly missed the point. The goal isn't to find a good way to teach kids science... get a textbook for that. The goal is to find a way to get kids interested in science, and Mythbusters can do that very nicely. Once their interest is captured, then teach them how it actually works.
The trouble is it's not science. They're interested in things being blown up. Once you try to introduce kids to real science they see it as "boring" because it's not as exciting as Mythbusters blowing stuff up was.
If you want to teach kids to appreciate science stop trying crappy bait and switch tactics and actually let them know about the complexities and intricacies of nature and of the processes you have to use to uncover them.
They teach the heart of the Scientific Method and show it as being FUN. Test the hypothesis - then retest it, just like Jaime and Adam do every episode.
I realise this will be modded down but it has to be said - the Mythbusters are a horrible, horrible influence. They demonstrate the misuse and sloppy application of the scientific method, and how to jump to a generalised conclusion based on insufficient evidence. Many if not most of their shows should end with "insufficient data", not "busted", "proven" and "plausible".
They are good entertainment value if you like to see wild ideas tested or see things blown up, but I honestly believe that introducing kids to such sloppy science does more harm than good.
Now watch me get modded down by fans of all things blown up.
We need to teach our kids to get away from the idea of having "heroes" per se. Have a look at some of the greats of the past and you'll find they had character flaws that you do not want children emulating. Read biographies on Newton (sociopath who enjoyed humilating and disgracing others), Einstein (mysogynist who refused to accept QM), Feynman (womaniser who enjoyed conning people). Teach them to admire and focus the work and aspire to doing great work, not to have fuzzy hair and charisma but patchy people skills.
I never once asserted that I was a special case. You've clearly either read nothing or your comprehension skills are lacking. My entire argument is on the premise that fat people are fat because they have trouble losing weight, and worse the long term success rate for those that do manage to get it off in the first place is abysmal.
Attitudes need to change so that a fat person doesn't come onto a site like/. and read that perhaps if more fatties drop dead due to swine flu it'll provide incentive for them to lose weight. Nor do fat people need to be guilted into extreme diets and excercise that only serve to waste their time and money. I have no idea what you think you're defending but all I see is a bunch of horseshit from people that should know better.
25% were maintaining a weight loss of 10% at 7 years.
So 1 in 4 managed to keep off 10% after losing over 30kg. Think about that. People like you wouldn't even notice the difference if an obese person lost 10%
Additionally: It's easy to find abstracts which seem like they agree with you. Science is a constantly changing field and one abstract does not open or shut a case.
Well take a look. Find some more. There are very few long term weight loss studies. You can't sell weight loss products by telling people they'll fail after all that hardship. The few that exist and aren't sponsored by a weight loss company, gym manufacturer etc. show terrible results.
25% of the participants succeeded.
Your definition of success is asinine. 1 in 4 barely making a difference to their weight sounds like a fucking dismal failure to me.
Hope you can see past your anger to understand what's actually being said here.
I'm not angry. I'm frustrated at the stupidity of people allowing the weight loss "industry" milk them while whipping themselves for a condition that they have very little control over while people ridicule, belittle, criticise and bully. it's pathetic.
I do not hate you. You are not a victim of fat bashing.
Pure horsehit. Fat people are an easy target and get fat bashed all the time. We've made progress on women's rights, gay rights, race issues etc. But it's still the popular misconception that fat = lazy and stupid. It's still completely acceptable in most circles to make fat jokes.
Sounds to me like you're trying to cover up your own weak will with excuses
Sounds to me like you don't have my interests at heart and you're just looking for an excuse to fat bash.
Face it, there's plenty you could do to help yourself. If you really believe that you can't, you're lying to yourself (whether conciously or sub-conciously) because you're afraid or resistant of the work involved. Nobody said it was *convenient* to lose weight.
Yes because long term weight loss is such an easy thing, isn't it.
You have to give up things you enjoy. You have so little to enjoy as is with your wife's allergies. I get that. That doesn't mean you can't do something about it. Your rationalizations boil down to "I'm happy being fat". If that's true, then just fucking say it and get it over with. That's something I can respect.
So I'm suppose to give up even more in order to satisify someone like you that I'm doing enough. So do I have to go to a monastery, beat myself to keep myself awake, and be celibate to satisfy you too?
No one is happy being fat. It's a question of how difficult and how much you have to give up to lose the weight.
What I can't respect is you coming up with bullshit excuses left and right about how it's impossible when plenty of people (400lbs+) likely larger than you have lost significant weight.
Congratulations for being brainwashed by an industry that thrives on lies.
Thank you! At least one other person here gets it!
I will reap the consequences of being fat whether I make another huge go at losing weight again. It's the long term consequences (putting it on and more) plus other priorities and responsibilities that make it hard to even contemplate. Regardless of what happens medically I could do with people not assuming I'm FAT because I'm lazy or stupid. Only idiots try to bully people into losing weight. Only uncompassionate morons have no sympathy for a person struggling with an issue just because it's easier than them. You've proven you're neither uncompassionate nor an idiot.
You do understand that the different hunger feeling comes from the fact how much people have got used to eat, right?
No. It's not. When I lost weight and was having a large bowl of salad and a piece of lean chicken or steak (no bread or other carbs) I would always go around feeling hungry. ALL THE TIME. FOR MONTHS ON END. Now after a while your stomach can't take the food. If you eat a little more than you usually do, or if you eat anything with a tiny bit of fat or oil you feel ill the rest of the day. BUT YOU STILL FEEL HUNGRY. That's how it was for me. I kept that up for maybe 8 months. I took an extra day off work every week (Try working when you're hungry to the point of distraction).
I'm tired of fools who automatically assume every fat person that's had trouble simply hasn't tried hard enough.
I've done periods of just FREE weights over the months and benching by itself and *it works*, there are many ways to use free weights and you really REALLY look stupid, you're talking to someone who is the evidence.
You're just another loser who thinks that everyone's body must work exactly as yours does and if they say it doesn't they must be lying. You want to feel good about what you've done. That's fine. But you want to put others down and feel superior for not managing the same. That's just weak.
It DOES NOT take a suspension of the laws of physics for people's metabolisms to work very differently. Food is very energy dense.
It DOES NOT take a suspension of the laws of physics for people's hunger drives to be very different. Hunger is a huge motivator. It has had to be for the human race to survive.
And who is RESPONSIBLE for being overweight?
Who's responsible for you having two arms and two legs? NATURE.
It's not a simple matter of responsibility. That's like telling an alcoholic to just get over it. Idiotic.
You are the one who must overcome your weaknesses, no one said it was easy but if someone has a tendency to murder, rape or kill, or has pedophelic tendencies, does that JUSTIFY them indulging in their weaknesses or are they held responsible?
So now you're comparing being overweight to being a murderer or rapist. Real nice.
The difference of course is that we all have to eat. You try telling an alcoholic that they have to have 1 and only 1 drink a day and see how far they get!
For that matter, try curing a murderer or rapist of the compulsion just by having them excercise some self control. There's a reason we lock these people up.
Your pushing the limits of your credibility with this paragraph, people who make excuses for things they have control over. The biggest barrier to get over is the psychological one, and doctors are NOT fitness buffs, or specialists. Doctors are not gods.
I'm only pushing my credibility with someone narrow minded, who thinks they know better than everyone else and has a chip on their shoulder.
Aparently you know more than doctors about the human body, weight loss and fitness, but _I'm_ the one without the credibility huh? You're the one reaching buddy.
Since we're deciding we're better than the professionals here's a little amateur psychology for you. The trouble with you is you use to hate yourself as a fat person so you feel the need to distance yourself by vilifying anyone else who hasn't chosen to do everything humanly possible to lose every bit of weight. Why else would you waste so much time arguing with me. Absolutely classic.
eat less exercise more that's it. that's the magic. everything else is bloviating
Translation: I have no trouble losing weight so I'll make the assumption that you're lying when you say you do.
Take a look. I'm not the only one having trouble losing weight. Do you have any freaking idea what the stats on long term weight loss (5 years, 10 years out) are like? No I didn't think so.
Maybe you should get a life and get a clue how to deal with people instead of playing the rather easy and obvious game of vilifying and fat bashing. Do you feel good about yourself playing the bully? Do you think I'm going to take advice from a self absorbed fool who gets his kicks putting down people because they are fat? Do you think I'm stupid enough or have low enough self esteem to care what someone that behaves as you just have thinks? If you cared a damn about my well being you'd never even contemplate being that way. You don't want me to play the victim. Fine. I won't. So go fly a kite, you loser.
Who said anything about politics/politicians/corruption? Not me. You started out awfully defensive. I don't care why.
You said: "The video tells a completely different story from that still. Believe what you want to believe though." Clearly you're implying that I'm believing a fantasy and/or I'm out to attack the man's credibility. I explained my position. I'm sorry you found it "defensive" but that isn't really my problem. I was defending nothing. I was explaining to you that it was a joke, which you clearly didn't get in the first place. Others did and it got modded funny.
Anyone who "can not" lose weight is, quite simply, doing something wrong. Sure, they could be part of the.001% of people with a gland problem but let's be serious and talk about the overwhelming majority.
Take a look at the 5 or 10 year outlook for weight loss. It's certainly not.001% of the population that has a problem keeping weight off.
There are a TON of other excuses and all of them are just that - excuses. If you want to be healthy, in shape, or just plain old 'not fat' then make it a priority
If it were that simple there'd be a hell of a lot of people doing a lot better than they are.
Sorry, but all I hear from you is excuses excuses excuses. I weighed 280lbs at one point. I decided I was sick of my self image and through DIET ALONE, I am now down to 220lbs, and still decreasing a few pounds every month. This is while on medical steroids, prednisone, which increases your appetite. The only thing holding you back is excuses, and the fact you really don't want to try.
I'm tired of the "I lost weight therefore you can too or else you're a fat lazy slob stories". All it does is make stupid people feel good about themselves at the expense of others. Please take a look at the long term statistics for weight loss. Come back and tell me how well you're doing in 10 years.
I'm going to call bullshit on this, it's fucking impossible to NOT lose weight in a week if you are "working your ass off", you're certainly not working you ass off if you're not losing even half a pound or 1 pound in 7 days. Losing weight DOES require some amount of willpower and definitely requires a commitment hence (by and large) one is responsible for one's weight.
EVEN on the nonsense reality TV shows contestants do work hard for the week (and are constantly monitored so cheating is unlikely) and STILL manage to sometimes put on weight. You can cry BS until you go blue but you've clearly never had major weight issues. You don't seem to understand that the body can use the few calories it gets a day first, and that some of the components of that energy burning come from water and air. It's not magic and these people don't violate conservation of energy. It's just that food - fat and carbs - is ONE component in the way the human body works. That's an evolutionary development. It takes a LONG time to starve. Your body doesn't simply give out in a day because you're not fed.
One cannot just excuse oneself unless one has a serious medical condition, but even those that are sick (your arthritis in your leg/angle) can do other exercises. For instance when I was lifting free weights and benching you still burn and awful lot of fat without having to move around that much. What matters is expending energy.
Benching weights increases muscle mass which will actually raise your BMI. You need a cardiovascular workout. To burn energy you need something that increases your breathing and makes you sweat and burn calories quickly. Suggesting benching weights as a way to lose weight is insane.
Now do I take some responsibility for my weight. Sure. Absolutely. Do I think that it's as easy for me to lose weight as a good portion of the population. Hell no.
The biggest thing is monitoring your appetite, no amount of exercise will help if you're over-eating and taking in more energy then you're burning off. The army did a study a long while back that showed just this: Taking in too much energy negates the weight loss benefits of exercise and you don't have to starve youself either, just limit yourself to 1500-1800 cals/day and keep track of it on a site like http://www.fitday.com/
Yes, and most of us want to join the freaking army, eat rabbit food and excercise 2-3 hours a day for the rest of our lives. Yeah, that's real sustainable.
You clearly know nothing about weight loss.
The truth is many people who are overweight have never been thin for most of their life and got fat fairly young and developed a victim psychology because of bullying/social prejudice.
Yet the bullying is socially accepted as you're proving right this instance. Not only that but as they get older they're preyed upon by the weight loss industry etc. In other words you're beating people down then wondering why they don't raise themselves by the bootstraps and make a huge effort just to lead semi-normal lives.
There's only so much you can do to excuse yourself from being overweight.. I agree there are many different body types and some of us store fat easily on the smallest amounts of food, but many of us that store easily barely exercise.
A doctor once was giving a talk about lecturing other doctors with regard to telling their patients they must lose weight to avoid the various complications that arise from being obese. He told them that they know about long hours and hard work, so they should strap an extra 20kg to themselves, and go about their 12-16 hour days, then when they get home try and put in 30-60 minutes of excercise and see how much they feel like excercise.
It's a viscious circle. The more weight you put on, the harder it is to start and continue a weight loss regime. And the older you get the more your body starts creaking (especially if you're unfit) responsibility you have and the less likely you are to k
Yeah, I know. However, we're talking about morbid obesity, not the fact that not everyone is going to be an Olympic gymnast.
Yeah we're also talking about bodies that work very differently.
Yes, because when talking about a problem, you always talk solely about the edge cases and never the vast, vast majority.
Have you taken a look at the stats? We're not just talking about edge cases. THAT is the problem. THAT is why obesity itself is being called an epidemic. Don't let facts distract your ranting though.
How much compassion do you feel for someone who just is too lazy to do the simplest things to keep themselves healthy?
Your car analogy stinks. People are not cars, and if they were they wouldn't be the same make model and wouldn't require the same fuel or maintenance. People who go to great lengths to be healthy are often thwarted by things beyond their own control including their lot in life (circumstances) and their own biology. YOU have a body that works well and no issues with apetite or excercise so you refuse to even consider that others might find it not only more difficult but near impossible.
Sure, syousef, no email or website given. Since you apparently care so much about usernames, I'll go with "root."
STILL posting as AC. And still coming up with this. Then you're casting aspersions because I won't give you my home address. You're completely irrational and unreasonable.
The video tells a completely different story from that still. Believe what you want to believe though.
The video indeed tells a different story. I have nothing against Obama, except that he is a politician and they are all prone to corruption and self-serving nonsense. I do not follow a U.S. party and I am not a U.S. citizen. The photo is still funny as hell.
It takes months or years to become morbidly obese in the first place. Cry me a fricken river. The longer you wait to take action, the longer it'll take.
Well I got obese around the age of 3 asshole. You going to hold a child accountable for that? Even holding the parents accountable has its problems. Not all our bodies work the same way dipshit.
And that's a valid reason. However, since that's a fraction of a percent of obese people, it's really not worth considering.
Of course you know everyone's complete medical history and have statistics to back up your abhorrent decision that this "fraction of a percent" of people isn't "worth considering". Your choice to ignore those who most need help is repugnant and a general indicator of your lack of compassion. Fuck you.
How about walking 10 minutes every couple of hours, then? There are low-impact ways to exercise. Find them out.
Yeah that'll work. You wanna be the one to explain to my boss what the fuck I'm doing. Asshole.
Maybe because for the vast majority of obese people, it in fact is their own fault?!
So what you're saying is that a huge percentage of the population are just weak willed. Doesn't the fact that it's such a wide spread thing that goes across all demographics when it comes to socio-economic status and education tell you any fucking thing? Are you really that obtuse?
It takes years to go from a bit chubby to morbidly obese. That's years of ignoring the problem, years of refusing to take action. It doesn't just suddenly happen.
I don't have compassion for people who whine about how tired they are after staying up watching movies and drinking all night. Their choice, their consequence.
Well it's clear that you have no compassion period. Why don't you post with your actual name instead of being such a coward to boot? Trying to explain anything as complex as how to change a tyre on you is clearly wasted, let alone how and why people "allow" themselves to put on weight.
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Pandora is looking after Pandora's interests. I'd barely heard of this pithy organisation before last week and now they're all over the news. Just get back in your box. We don't want or need you.
You truly mustn't have a life. I'm not stressed by fat jokes. I've endured them for as long as I can remember. I'm laughing at you. You literally have nothing better to do than hold a grudge over a conversation from days ago and amuse yourself trying to annoy people. That makes you a complete joke.
In this case the lawyers really are the only winners!
I think you've horribly missed the point. The goal isn't to find a good way to teach kids science... get a textbook for that. The goal is to find a way to get kids interested in science, and Mythbusters can do that very nicely. Once their interest is captured, then teach them how it actually works.
The trouble is it's not science. They're interested in things being blown up. Once you try to introduce kids to real science they see it as "boring" because it's not as exciting as Mythbusters blowing stuff up was.
If you want to teach kids to appreciate science stop trying crappy bait and switch tactics and actually let them know about the complexities and intricacies of nature and of the processes you have to use to uncover them.
They teach the heart of the Scientific Method and show it as being FUN. Test the hypothesis - then retest it, just like Jaime and Adam do every episode.
I realise this will be modded down but it has to be said - the Mythbusters are a horrible, horrible influence. They demonstrate the misuse and sloppy application of the scientific method, and how to jump to a generalised conclusion based on insufficient evidence. Many if not most of their shows should end with "insufficient data", not "busted", "proven" and "plausible".
They are good entertainment value if you like to see wild ideas tested or see things blown up, but I honestly believe that introducing kids to such sloppy science does more harm than good.
Now watch me get modded down by fans of all things blown up.
We need to teach our kids to get away from the idea of having "heroes" per se. Have a look at some of the greats of the past and you'll find they had character flaws that you do not want children emulating. Read biographies on Newton (sociopath who enjoyed humilating and disgracing others), Einstein (mysogynist who refused to accept QM), Feynman (womaniser who enjoyed conning people). Teach them to admire and focus the work and aspire to doing great work, not to have fuzzy hair and charisma but patchy people skills.
How about "NASA has Found the Lost Tapes"? Right now the title tells me that NASA is in ownership of the tapes, but just can't find them.
Well if you're going to be pedantic, on slashdot the correct title would be "NASA can haz Lost Tapes pleaz?"
...and you keep posting as AC and rubbishing people you don't know. Have fun. Must be a pathetic life if that's what floats your boat.
I never once asserted that I was a special case. You've clearly either read nothing or your comprehension skills are lacking. My entire argument is on the premise that fat people are fat because they have trouble losing weight, and worse the long term success rate for those that do manage to get it off in the first place is abysmal.
Attitudes need to change so that a fat person doesn't come onto a site like /. and read that perhaps if more fatties drop dead due to swine flu it'll provide incentive for them to lose weight. Nor do fat people need to be guilted into extreme diets and excercise that only serve to waste their time and money. I have no idea what you think you're defending but all I see is a bunch of horseshit from people that should know better.
25% were maintaining a weight loss of 10% at 7 years.
So 1 in 4 managed to keep off 10% after losing over 30kg. Think about that. People like you wouldn't even notice the difference if an obese person lost 10%
Additionally: It's easy to find abstracts which seem like they agree with you. Science is a constantly changing field and one abstract does not open or shut a case.
Well take a look. Find some more. There are very few long term weight loss studies. You can't sell weight loss products by telling people they'll fail after all that hardship. The few that exist and aren't sponsored by a weight loss company, gym manufacturer etc. show terrible results.
25% of the participants succeeded.
Your definition of success is asinine. 1 in 4 barely making a difference to their weight sounds like a fucking dismal failure to me.
Hope you can see past your anger to understand what's actually being said here.
I'm not angry. I'm frustrated at the stupidity of people allowing the weight loss "industry" milk them while whipping themselves for a condition that they have very little control over while people ridicule, belittle, criticise and bully. it's pathetic.
I do not hate you. You are not a victim of fat bashing.
Pure horsehit. Fat people are an easy target and get fat bashed all the time. We've made progress on women's rights, gay rights, race issues etc. But it's still the popular misconception that fat = lazy and stupid. It's still completely acceptable in most circles to make fat jokes.
Sounds to me like you're trying to cover up your own weak will with excuses
Sounds to me like you don't have my interests at heart and you're just looking for an excuse to fat bash.
Face it, there's plenty you could do to help yourself. If you really believe that you can't, you're lying to yourself (whether conciously or sub-conciously) because you're afraid or resistant of the work involved. Nobody said it was *convenient* to lose weight.
Yes because long term weight loss is such an easy thing, isn't it.
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/6/620
You have to give up things you enjoy. You have so little to enjoy as is with your wife's allergies. I get that. That doesn't mean you can't do something about it. Your rationalizations boil down to "I'm happy being fat". If that's true, then just fucking say it and get it over with. That's something I can respect.
So I'm suppose to give up even more in order to satisify someone like you that I'm doing enough. So do I have to go to a monastery, beat myself to keep myself awake, and be celibate to satisfy you too?
No one is happy being fat. It's a question of how difficult and how much you have to give up to lose the weight.
What I can't respect is you coming up with bullshit excuses left and right about how it's impossible when plenty of people (400lbs+) likely larger than you have lost significant weight.
Congratulations for being brainwashed by an industry that thrives on lies.
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/6/620 ...and congratultions for fat bashing. Hope it makes you feel like a big man....pun intended
Nah, people are just lazy. Look at you. You're so fat your ankles are buckling under your massive girth and you still make excuses.
Ironically it was an ice skating injury that caused my ankle to "buckle". Don't let facts get in the way of being an abusive troll.
Have fun with diabeetus! ;-D
Guess what, in 70 years you'll be just as dead as me. Have a nice life, tool.
Thank you! At least one other person here gets it!
I will reap the consequences of being fat whether I make another huge go at losing weight again. It's the long term consequences (putting it on and more) plus other priorities and responsibilities that make it hard to even contemplate. Regardless of what happens medically I could do with people not assuming I'm FAT because I'm lazy or stupid. Only idiots try to bully people into losing weight. Only uncompassionate morons have no sympathy for a person struggling with an issue just because it's easier than them. You've proven you're neither uncompassionate nor an idiot.
You do understand that the different hunger feeling comes from the fact how much people have got used to eat, right?
No. It's not. When I lost weight and was having a large bowl of salad and a piece of lean chicken or steak (no bread or other carbs) I would always go around feeling hungry. ALL THE TIME. FOR MONTHS ON END. Now after a while your stomach can't take the food. If you eat a little more than you usually do, or if you eat anything with a tiny bit of fat or oil you feel ill the rest of the day. BUT YOU STILL FEEL HUNGRY. That's how it was for me. I kept that up for maybe 8 months. I took an extra day off work every week (Try working when you're hungry to the point of distraction).
I'm tired of fools who automatically assume every fat person that's had trouble simply hasn't tried hard enough.
Here are some long term stats for you:
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/6/620
I've done periods of just FREE weights over the months and benching by itself and *it works*, there are many ways to use free weights and you really REALLY look stupid, you're talking to someone who is the evidence.
You're just another loser who thinks that everyone's body must work exactly as yours does and if they say it doesn't they must be lying. You want to feel good about what you've done. That's fine. But you want to put others down and feel superior for not managing the same. That's just weak.
It DOES NOT take a suspension of the laws of physics for people's metabolisms to work very differently. Food is very energy dense.
It DOES NOT take a suspension of the laws of physics for people's hunger drives to be very different. Hunger is a huge motivator. It has had to be for the human race to survive.
And who is RESPONSIBLE for being overweight?
Who's responsible for you having two arms and two legs? NATURE.
It's not a simple matter of responsibility. That's like telling an alcoholic to just get over it. Idiotic.
You are the one who must overcome your weaknesses, no one said it was easy but if someone has a tendency to murder, rape or kill, or has pedophelic tendencies, does that JUSTIFY them indulging in their weaknesses or are they held responsible?
So now you're comparing being overweight to being a murderer or rapist. Real nice.
The difference of course is that we all have to eat. You try telling an alcoholic that they have to have 1 and only 1 drink a day and see how far they get!
For that matter, try curing a murderer or rapist of the compulsion just by having them excercise some self control. There's a reason we lock these people up.
Your pushing the limits of your credibility with this paragraph, people who make excuses for things they have control over. The biggest barrier to get over is the psychological one, and doctors are NOT fitness buffs, or specialists. Doctors are not gods.
I'm only pushing my credibility with someone narrow minded, who thinks they know better than everyone else and has a chip on their shoulder.
Aparently you know more than doctors about the human body, weight loss and fitness, but _I'm_ the one without the credibility huh? You're the one reaching buddy.
Since we're deciding we're better than the professionals here's a little amateur psychology for you. The trouble with you is you use to hate yourself as a fat person so you feel the need to distance yourself by vilifying anyone else who hasn't chosen to do everything humanly possible to lose every bit of weight. Why else would you waste so much time arguing with me. Absolutely classic.
But here you go. Have a look at your future:
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/6/620
Or just google long term weight loss. You'll find the only ones that claim to enable it have something to sell you.
I guess everyone with a weight problem is just weaker than you.
eat less
exercise more
that's it. that's the magic. everything else is bloviating
Translation: I have no trouble losing weight so I'll make the assumption that you're lying when you say you do.
Take a look. I'm not the only one having trouble losing weight. Do you have any freaking idea what the stats on long term weight loss (5 years, 10 years out) are like? No I didn't think so.
Go fly a kite.
Maybe you should get a life and get a clue how to deal with people instead of playing the rather easy and obvious game of vilifying and fat bashing. Do you feel good about yourself playing the bully? Do you think I'm going to take advice from a self absorbed fool who gets his kicks putting down people because they are fat? Do you think I'm stupid enough or have low enough self esteem to care what someone that behaves as you just have thinks? If you cared a damn about my well being you'd never even contemplate being that way. You don't want me to play the victim. Fine. I won't. So go fly a kite, you loser.
Who said anything about politics/politicians/corruption? Not me. You started out awfully defensive. I don't care why.
You said: "The video tells a completely different story from that still. Believe what you want to believe though." Clearly you're implying that I'm believing a fantasy and/or I'm out to attack the man's credibility. I explained my position. I'm sorry you found it "defensive" but that isn't really my problem. I was defending nothing. I was explaining to you that it was a joke, which you clearly didn't get in the first place. Others did and it got modded funny.
Anyone who "can not" lose weight is, quite simply, doing something wrong. Sure, they could be part of the .001% of people with a gland problem but let's be serious and talk about the overwhelming majority.
Take a look at the 5 or 10 year outlook for weight loss. It's certainly not .001% of the population that has a problem keeping weight off.
There are a TON of other excuses and all of them are just that - excuses. If you want to be healthy, in shape, or just plain old 'not fat' then make it a priority
If it were that simple there'd be a hell of a lot of people doing a lot better than they are.
Sorry, but all I hear from you is excuses excuses excuses. I weighed 280lbs at one point. I decided I was sick of my self image and through DIET ALONE, I am now down to 220lbs, and still decreasing a few pounds every month. This is while on medical steroids, prednisone, which increases your appetite. The only thing holding you back is excuses, and the fact you really don't want to try.
I'm tired of the "I lost weight therefore you can too or else you're a fat lazy slob stories". All it does is make stupid people feel good about themselves at the expense of others. Please take a look at the long term statistics for weight loss. Come back and tell me how well you're doing in 10 years.
I'm going to call bullshit on this, it's fucking impossible to NOT lose weight in a week if you are "working your ass off", you're certainly not working you ass off if you're not losing even half a pound or 1 pound in 7 days. Losing weight DOES require some amount of willpower and definitely requires a commitment hence (by and large) one is responsible for one's weight.
EVEN on the nonsense reality TV shows contestants do work hard for the week (and are constantly monitored so cheating is unlikely) and STILL manage to sometimes put on weight. You can cry BS until you go blue but you've clearly never had major weight issues. You don't seem to understand that the body can use the few calories it gets a day first, and that some of the components of that energy burning come from water and air. It's not magic and these people don't violate conservation of energy. It's just that food - fat and carbs - is ONE component in the way the human body works. That's an evolutionary development. It takes a LONG time to starve. Your body doesn't simply give out in a day because you're not fed.
One cannot just excuse oneself unless one has a serious medical condition, but even those that are sick (your arthritis in your leg/angle) can do other exercises. For instance when I was lifting free weights and benching you still burn and awful lot of fat without having to move around that much. What matters is expending energy.
Benching weights increases muscle mass which will actually raise your BMI. You need a cardiovascular workout. To burn energy you need something that increases your breathing and makes you sweat and burn calories quickly. Suggesting benching weights as a way to lose weight is insane.
Now do I take some responsibility for my weight. Sure. Absolutely. Do I think that it's as easy for me to lose weight as a good portion of the population. Hell no.
The biggest thing is monitoring your appetite, no amount of exercise will help if you're over-eating and taking in more energy then you're burning off. The army did a study a long while back that showed just this: Taking in too much energy negates the weight loss benefits of exercise and you don't have to starve youself either, just limit yourself to 1500-1800 cals/day and keep track of it on a site like http://www.fitday.com/
Yes, and most of us want to join the freaking army, eat rabbit food and excercise 2-3 hours a day for the rest of our lives. Yeah, that's real sustainable.
You clearly know nothing about weight loss.
The truth is many people who are overweight have never been thin for most of their life and got fat fairly young and developed a victim psychology because of bullying/social prejudice.
Yet the bullying is socially accepted as you're proving right this instance. Not only that but as they get older they're preyed upon by the weight loss industry etc. In other words you're beating people down then wondering why they don't raise themselves by the bootstraps and make a huge effort just to lead semi-normal lives.
There's only so much you can do to excuse yourself from being overweight.. I agree there are many different body types and some of us store fat easily on the smallest amounts of food, but many of us that store easily barely exercise.
A doctor once was giving a talk about lecturing other doctors with regard to telling their patients they must lose weight to avoid the various complications that arise from being obese. He told them that they know about long hours and hard work, so they should strap an extra 20kg to themselves, and go about their 12-16 hour days, then when they get home try and put in 30-60 minutes of excercise and see how much they feel like excercise.
It's a viscious circle. The more weight you put on, the harder it is to start and continue a weight loss regime. And the older you get the more your body starts creaking (especially if you're unfit) responsibility you have and the less likely you are to k
Yeah, I know. However, we're talking about morbid obesity, not the fact that not everyone is going to be an Olympic gymnast.
Yeah we're also talking about bodies that work very differently.
Yes, because when talking about a problem, you always talk solely about the edge cases and never the vast, vast majority.
Have you taken a look at the stats? We're not just talking about edge cases. THAT is the problem. THAT is why obesity itself is being called an epidemic. Don't let facts distract your ranting though.
How much compassion do you feel for someone who just is too lazy to do the simplest things to keep themselves healthy?
Your car analogy stinks. People are not cars, and if they were they wouldn't be the same make model and wouldn't require the same fuel or maintenance. People who go to great lengths to be healthy are often thwarted by things beyond their own control including their lot in life (circumstances) and their own biology. YOU have a body that works well and no issues with apetite or excercise so you refuse to even consider that others might find it not only more difficult but near impossible.
Sure, syousef, no email or website given. Since you apparently care so much about usernames, I'll go with "root."
STILL posting as AC. And still coming up with this. Then you're casting aspersions because I won't give you my home address. You're completely irrational and unreasonable.
The video tells a completely different story from that still. Believe what you want to believe though.
The video indeed tells a different story. I have nothing against Obama, except that he is a politician and they are all prone to corruption and self-serving nonsense. I do not follow a U.S. party and I am not a U.S. citizen. The photo is still funny as hell.
It takes months or years to become morbidly obese in the first place. Cry me a fricken river. The longer you wait to take action, the longer it'll take.
Well I got obese around the age of 3 asshole. You going to hold a child accountable for that? Even holding the parents accountable has its problems. Not all our bodies work the same way dipshit.
And that's a valid reason. However, since that's a fraction of a percent of obese people, it's really not worth considering.
Of course you know everyone's complete medical history and have statistics to back up your abhorrent decision that this "fraction of a percent" of people isn't "worth considering". Your choice to ignore those who most need help is repugnant and a general indicator of your lack of compassion. Fuck you.
How about walking 10 minutes every couple of hours, then? There are low-impact ways to exercise. Find them out.
Yeah that'll work. You wanna be the one to explain to my boss what the fuck I'm doing. Asshole.
Maybe because for the vast majority of obese people, it in fact is their own fault?!
So what you're saying is that a huge percentage of the population are just weak willed. Doesn't the fact that it's such a wide spread thing that goes across all demographics when it comes to socio-economic status and education tell you any fucking thing? Are you really that obtuse?
It takes years to go from a bit chubby to morbidly obese. That's years of ignoring the problem, years of refusing to take action. It doesn't just suddenly happen.
I don't have compassion for people who whine about how tired they are after staying up watching movies and drinking all night. Their choice, their consequence.
Well it's clear that you have no compassion period. Why don't you post with your actual name instead of being such a coward to boot? Trying to explain anything as complex as how to change a tyre on you is clearly wasted, let alone how and why people "allow" themselves to put on weight.
...Obama checking out some 17 year old girl's ass?