Yes, thanks for quoting the article I linked to back at me. Now what was your point?
Mine was that the Chandrasekhar limit is important to any discussion on black holes. >1.4 solar masses - possible black hole 1.4 solar masses - not enough mass to collapse the thing.
Now there is a way a black hole can form then lose mass - Hawking radiation.
I've studied Astronomy. The Chandrasekhar limit is a classic piece of Astrophysics that should be part of any popular article discussing the limiting size of an object becoming a black hole. I don't know of a mechanism that might cause a smaller body to form a black hole. That force would need to be applied in such a way as to overcome electron degeneracy pressure.
1.4 solar masses is much smaller than the masses we're observing for black holes. My point was we haven't approached this yet. There are other forces acting but 1.4 is the absolute limit for a black hole at time of formation.
Now there is one way a black hole can be smaller and that is if it loses mass. Stephen Hawking and Jacob Bekenstein found a way that this could happen that involves quantum mechanics.
I'm a software developer and have my own wireless and wired lan set up at home. I've run Linux at home in the past (though these days I don't bother...something which may soon change due to my hate of Vista).
Most of the developers I work with have at least one computer and we trade advice about config when we configure new equipment at home.
Now if I had to scratch build a computer I might have issues - I don't like messing with installing the CPU, but adding disks, DVD drives, memory, power supply etc are all things I have done. That's probably a little beyond some of my colleagues, but not all - there are a couple who've scratch built gaming rigs.
I imagine this could work and work well in an IT shop full of software developers. However it isn't going to work if the users don't know an operating system from an aardvark. You'd still want some minimal rules like keeping the PC patched and good A/V software if you're running Windows. but I'd say it's doable.
What it isn't going to do is reduce your costs. You might have a very minimal help desk and no specialized staff installing those desktops but that knowledge, time and effort must be spread through the organization. You may also find it harder to get good deals on bulk purchasing depending on how you do it.
For realism there should be a vessel that accepts beer, weighs it or otherwise monitors its level, and a slow leak into another container (preferably a toilet bowl). The more full the first container, and the later in the night it is, the more aesthetically pleasing every woman becomes. Once the beer bottle is sufficiently full the algorithm should emulate sleep by pausing until morning, at which time scores return to normal. As a bonus a scream should be heard when the algorithm wakes, particularly if the woman's daytime score is low. Hell fit wheels to it and have it run away in the morning, and you've got the ultimate female rating robot. If the female is sufficiently plastered herself she may not be able to tell the difference!
Isn't this kind of hand waving. Beauty is subjective and qualitative. People will rank others differently and for different reasons. So along comes a computer scientist and applies and algorithm and states that it rates people's beauty. Well sure it does, but whose idea of attractiveness is being emulated. The computer can never be "wrong". At best they might claim that within a particular culture or population, averaged results will match their algorithm. If something isn't testable and falsifiable it's not science.
Yeah if by someday they mean since about 1988 for Apple and since they killed of Altavista for Google (when was that around '98?) for Google. I can't stand the fanaticism around those 2 companies. It's irrational. They've done plenty of bad shit.
Are you, or have you ever been, a whiner. No engineering firm wants a whiner. No intelligent person who has a choice of where to work wants to work with whiners. Nearly every other social malady is acceptable. Be arrogant, rude, or even borderline psychotic. Be a managed druggy. By if you are whiner, don't waste you time in engineering. No one cares
Ah yes because firms are lining up to hire arrogant assholes who can't work in a team, are rude "or even borderline psychotic".
It's possible to do a job you don't like. It's even possible to do one you don't like without whining. In fact most successful people do. The number of people that will actually tell you they love their job and that would pass that question on a lie detector test is abysmally small.
There are kids who don't develop a passion for anything until they're a little older and they too can tend to succeed - Not every brilliant engineer spent their entire childhood in a basement. Then there are kids who spent their lives in the basement tinkering that haven't got the brains to do the job - I remember a friend of a friend who spent a lot of time tinkering but thought star trek warp drives were just around the corner. I'd love to drive across a bridge that fugknuckle designed.
Beyond telling people they should find something they enjoy if they truly hate their course, your advice is crud.
Want better advice. Take something you do enjoy that's a viable career. Now envision doing it for 50 years straight. Imagine having the passion drained out of you bit by bit as you jump hurdles set by small minded bureaucratic middle managers. If you can stand for that to happen, and if you can still be civil to your work friends and still love life despite it, then make that passion your career. If you love it too much to see that or if having that passion ripped away will drive you insane, make it your hobby and choose your next passion to kill. There's a very good chance your job's going to be 5% fantastic 80% drudgery and boring crud and 15% awful. That's why they pay people to do the job.
A whole article, with very informative and concise information about support and sales cycles of XP, but in the end the conclusion is you can put it off but you will bend over and take it.
THIS is what's wrong with proprietary software. If Vista were better - more compatible with existing software, less buggy, less DRM crap, I would WANT to move. I don't, but in the long run I don't have a choice. If you'd told me 3 years ago I'd be fighting to keep XP, and buying older hardware to ensure support for it, I'd have laughed at you.
What a wally! The irony of someone with your abrasive attitude lecturing me on attitude is just delicious. Go back to worshiping Steve Jobs. He needs another holiday house and a shiny new car this month.
So you're a troll who's learnt the word "remedial" and thinks it's funny to use it repeatedly in the same insult instead of actually debating the point. You're the one that has to live with yourself buddy. Fuck, if your intellect is such that you find your stupid repeated insult endlessly amusing and l33t n3t typ1ng l1k3 "id10t" makes you feel superior you're to be pitied.
Another hint: understand the topic being discussed. It isn't whether CEOs should be good people.
Go take another look at what was being discussed and you'll see it doesn't match your revisionist interpretation. The sweet irony of someone as inarticulate and socially awkward as you telling me I need remedial reading lessons is just priceless.
You accused me of misquoting you. I showed that you had clearly implied exactly what I'd accused you of and you respond with this immature shit. All the rest of your points are about what you intended to say. You didn't make yourself clear. If you weren't trying to say Steve Jobs is okay to act this way because he's so good at what he does, you did a piss poor job of making your argument. Your childish responses just make you look like a moron. Get a life man. Its hard to get upset at someone abusing you when What they're doing is so pathetic.
Am I missing something here? Windows XP (I pretty much only run SP2 now) gives me the same warning - Something like "This device could operate faster"...when I plug something USB 2 into a USB 1.1 port.
The people most responsible for the extreme number of hardware variations for the PC today? IBM. they allowed people to clone their architecture (not without a token fight, though, if I recall). Now we have two major cpu manufacturers, 3 major motherboard chipset manufacturers, 3 major video card manufacturers, millions of extra peripheral devices, and the end result is an impossibly large number of hardware configurations.
It's also the reason that PCs became so affordable - competition. You can't have it both ways. I for one am glad we have a variety of hardware to choose from. I wish we had such variety in the operating systems.
As for the complexity, we have standards to deal with that....or at least they should.
What we have here is a person who is good enough with product development, deal making and personal leadership that he can overcome his absolutely craptastic management skills. Jobs is not a manager, he is a dictator. Just because he is a good one doesn't mean that you become good by emulating him. You need the rest of his skills as well.
I'm sorry but as I read this it clearly implies that if you've got the wonderful magical skills of Steve Jobs, it's okay to emulate his dictatorial style. Only if you're good enough though.
Perhaps instead of personal attacks and sarcastic remarks about sending me off to remedial reading classes, you should learn to express yourself more clearly.
You might find, on the other hand, that my point is that the success of Apple is in spite of his personal flaws, and that they are not to be emulated.
Or I might find that you've said they are "not to be emulated" UNLESS you're as good as he is - ie. "have the rest of his skills".
Kind of like saying "If only Hitler were a more skilled military leader". There you go I've handed you Godwin on a platter. Have fun with it.
You can be a douche bag about it, or you can recongize that you didn't make your point at all well. That's up to you.
b) I just moved from UK to USA and the amount of alcohol people drink in UK is completely unheard of in USA. Basically, we used to have three British pints 4 times a week. Properly drunk. In USA I can convince my colleagues to have one beer (over two hours!!) once a week. And yet, UK is THE most scientifically successful country per dollar spent.
Isn't that because American beer tastes like watered down piss?
Disclaimer: I don't drink. It all tastes awful to me, and I stopped drinking socially when I realized it's a waste of money and effort (thinking about whether or not I'm safe to drive etc) when I just don't like the stuff.
So your entire argument is that Steve Jobs is a genius and that we therefore should excuse the fact that he acts like a mean spirited ego-centric ass? The word "Fanboi" was just made for people like you. Go and Google "myth of genius" some time. The man's an asshole, his taste sucks but appeals to a niche crowd, and he, like all entrepreneurs has had a lot of luck as well as business sense to get where he is. Whether you consider him privelleged, lucky, or brilliant, he should be held to HIGHER standards because of the position of responsibility he holds within the IT community, not lower ones.
Joe-mainland probably owns the resorts on the island so joe-island-boy is shit out of luck if he's in hospital because he won't see a cent of that tourism cash. Joe-mainland will be happy to employ Joe-island-boy for minimum wage (or less if he can find a way around it!) but only if Joe-island-boy is fit and healthy. Sorry no health benefits.
It is different from a patent troll in much the same way a football is different from space rocket - by having no properties in common!
Now I object to that. It simply isn't true. They have lots in common
The rocket is made of matter, and the football team is made of matter. The rocket has no brains and neither does the football team. The rocket overcomes the enemy (gravity) by means of brute force and so does the football team. The rocket going up may generate interest among females, and unlike the typical slashdotter so will the football team. The rocket is dangerous and must be treated with respect to avoid injury. Likewise the football team. The rocket will launch you into the straosphere, and so will the football team if you're not careful.
What do you mean that's not real life? I don't understand! That can't be right. If it is how can I ever aspire to having sex in zero G with a gorgeous Russian spy?
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Yes, thanks for quoting the article I linked to back at me. Now what was your point?
Mine was that the Chandrasekhar limit is important to any discussion on black holes.
>1.4 solar masses - possible black hole
1.4 solar masses - not enough mass to collapse the thing.
Now there is a way a black hole can form then lose mass - Hawking radiation.
I've studied Astronomy. The Chandrasekhar limit is a classic piece of Astrophysics that should be part of any popular article discussing the limiting size of an object becoming a black hole. I don't know of a mechanism that might cause a smaller body to form a black hole. That force would need to be applied in such a way as to overcome electron degeneracy pressure.
1.4 solar masses is much smaller than the masses we're observing for black holes. My point was we haven't approached this yet. There are other forces acting but 1.4 is the absolute limit for a black hole at time of formation.
Now there is one way a black hole can be smaller and that is if it loses mass. Stephen Hawking and Jacob Bekenstein found a way that this could happen that involves quantum mechanics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation
For those of you who haven't done any Astrophysics...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit
You must work with very different developers.
I'm a software developer and have my own wireless and wired lan set up at home. I've run Linux at home in the past (though these days I don't bother...something which may soon change due to my hate of Vista).
Most of the developers I work with have at least one computer and we trade advice about config when we configure new equipment at home.
Now if I had to scratch build a computer I might have issues - I don't like messing with installing the CPU, but adding disks, DVD drives, memory, power supply etc are all things I have done. That's probably a little beyond some of my colleagues, but not all - there are a couple who've scratch built gaming rigs.
I imagine this could work and work well in an IT shop full of software developers. However it isn't going to work if the users don't know an operating system from an aardvark. You'd still want some minimal rules like keeping the PC patched and good A/V software if you're running Windows. but I'd say it's doable.
What it isn't going to do is reduce your costs. You might have a very minimal help desk and no specialized staff installing those desktops but that knowledge, time and effort must be spread through the organization. You may also find it harder to get good deals on bulk purchasing depending on how you do it.
A cold shark huh? Well I knew the politicians would come in handy for something someday.
Me make tree fall. Cross river. Get food and sex.
For realism there should be a vessel that accepts beer, weighs it or otherwise monitors its level, and a slow leak into another container (preferably a toilet bowl). The more full the first container, and the later in the night it is, the more aesthetically pleasing every woman becomes. Once the beer bottle is sufficiently full the algorithm should emulate sleep by pausing until morning, at which time scores return to normal. As a bonus a scream should be heard when the algorithm wakes, particularly if the woman's daytime score is low. Hell fit wheels to it and have it run away in the morning, and you've got the ultimate female rating robot. If the female is sufficiently plastered herself she may not be able to tell the difference!
Isn't this kind of hand waving. Beauty is subjective and qualitative. People will rank others differently and for different reasons. So along comes a computer scientist and applies and algorithm and states that it rates people's beauty. Well sure it does, but whose idea of attractiveness is being emulated. The computer can never be "wrong". At best they might claim that within a particular culture or population, averaged results will match their algorithm. If something isn't testable and falsifiable it's not science.
Yeah if by someday they mean since about 1988 for Apple and since they killed of Altavista for Google (when was that around '98?) for Google. I can't stand the fanaticism around those 2 companies. It's irrational. They've done plenty of bad shit.
Are you, or have you ever been, a whiner. No engineering firm wants a whiner. No intelligent person who has a choice of where to work wants to work with whiners. Nearly every other social malady is acceptable. Be arrogant, rude, or even borderline psychotic. Be a managed druggy. By if you are whiner, don't waste you time in engineering. No one cares
Ah yes because firms are lining up to hire arrogant assholes who can't work in a team, are rude "or even borderline psychotic".
It's possible to do a job you don't like. It's even possible to do one you don't like without whining. In fact most successful people do. The number of people that will actually tell you they love their job and that would pass that question on a lie detector test is abysmally small.
There are kids who don't develop a passion for anything until they're a little older and they too can tend to succeed - Not every brilliant engineer spent their entire childhood in a basement. Then there are kids who spent their lives in the basement tinkering that haven't got the brains to do the job - I remember a friend of a friend who spent a lot of time tinkering but thought star trek warp drives were just around the corner. I'd love to drive across a bridge that fugknuckle designed.
Beyond telling people they should find something they enjoy if they truly hate their course, your advice is crud.
Want better advice. Take something you do enjoy that's a viable career. Now envision doing it for 50 years straight. Imagine having the passion drained out of you bit by bit as you jump hurdles set by small minded bureaucratic middle managers. If you can stand for that to happen, and if you can still be civil to your work friends and still love life despite it, then make that passion your career. If you love it too much to see that or if having that passion ripped away will drive you insane, make it your hobby and choose your next passion to kill. There's a very good chance your job's going to be 5% fantastic 80% drudgery and boring crud and 15% awful. That's why they pay people to do the job.
A whole article, with very informative and concise information about support and sales cycles of XP, but in the end the conclusion is you can put it off but you will bend over and take it.
THIS is what's wrong with proprietary software. If Vista were better - more compatible with existing software, less buggy, less DRM crap, I would WANT to move. I don't, but in the long run I don't have a choice. If you'd told me 3 years ago I'd be fighting to keep XP, and buying older hardware to ensure support for it, I'd have laughed at you.
What a wally! The irony of someone with your abrasive attitude lecturing me on attitude is just delicious. Go back to worshiping Steve Jobs. He needs another holiday house and a shiny new car this month.
So you're a troll who's learnt the word "remedial" and thinks it's funny to use it repeatedly in the same insult instead of actually debating the point. You're the one that has to live with yourself buddy. Fuck, if your intellect is such that you find your stupid repeated insult endlessly amusing and l33t n3t typ1ng l1k3 "id10t" makes you feel superior you're to be pitied.
Another hint: understand the topic being discussed. It isn't whether CEOs should be good people.
Go take another look at what was being discussed and you'll see it doesn't match your revisionist interpretation. The sweet irony of someone as inarticulate and socially awkward as you telling me I need remedial reading lessons is just priceless.
You accused me of misquoting you. I showed that you had clearly implied exactly what I'd accused you of and you respond with this immature shit. All the rest of your points are about what you intended to say. You didn't make yourself clear. If you weren't trying to say Steve Jobs is okay to act this way because he's so good at what he does, you did a piss poor job of making your argument. Your childish responses just make you look like a moron. Get a life man. Its hard to get upset at someone abusing you when What they're doing is so pathetic.
Am I missing something here? Windows XP (I pretty much only run SP2 now) gives me the same warning - Something like "This device could operate faster"...when I plug something USB 2 into a USB 1.1 port.
The people most responsible for the extreme number of hardware variations for the PC today? IBM. they allowed people to clone their architecture (not without a token fight, though, if I recall). Now we have two major cpu manufacturers, 3 major motherboard chipset manufacturers, 3 major video card manufacturers, millions of extra peripheral devices, and the end result is an impossibly large number of hardware configurations.
It's also the reason that PCs became so affordable - competition. You can't have it both ways. I for one am glad we have a variety of hardware to choose from. I wish we had such variety in the operating systems.
As for the complexity, we have standards to deal with that....or at least they should.
You said the following:
What we have here is a person who is good enough with product development, deal making and personal leadership that he can overcome his absolutely craptastic management skills. Jobs is not a manager, he is a dictator. Just because he is a good one doesn't mean that you become good by emulating him. You need the rest of his skills as well.
I'm sorry but as I read this it clearly implies that if you've got the wonderful magical skills of Steve Jobs, it's okay to emulate his dictatorial style. Only if you're good enough though.
Perhaps instead of personal attacks and sarcastic remarks about sending me off to remedial reading classes, you should learn to express yourself more clearly.
You might find, on the other hand, that my point is that the success of Apple is in spite of his personal flaws, and that they are not to be emulated.
Or I might find that you've said they are "not to be emulated" UNLESS you're as good as he is - ie. "have the rest of his skills".
Kind of like saying "If only Hitler were a more skilled military leader". There you go I've handed you Godwin on a platter. Have fun with it.
You can be a douche bag about it, or you can recongize that you didn't make your point at all well. That's up to you.
b) I just moved from UK to USA and the amount of alcohol people drink in UK is completely unheard of in USA. Basically, we used to have three British pints 4 times a week. Properly drunk. In USA I can convince my colleagues to have one beer (over two hours!!) once a week. And yet, UK is THE most scientifically successful country per dollar spent.
Isn't that because American beer tastes like watered down piss?
Disclaimer: I don't drink. It all tastes awful to me, and I stopped drinking socially when I realized it's a waste of money and effort (thinking about whether or not I'm safe to drive etc) when I just don't like the stuff.
So your entire argument is that Steve Jobs is a genius and that we therefore should excuse the fact that he acts like a mean spirited ego-centric ass? The word "Fanboi" was just made for people like you. Go and Google "myth of genius" some time. The man's an asshole, his taste sucks but appeals to a niche crowd, and he, like all entrepreneurs has had a lot of luck as well as business sense to get where he is. Whether you consider him privelleged, lucky, or brilliant, he should be held to HIGHER standards because of the position of responsibility he holds within the IT community, not lower ones.
You're thinking of The Spy Who Loved Me. Holly Goodhead was CIA.
Way to ruin a perfectly good fantasy! Can't I combine a couple of movies and choose my own adventure? *smirk*
Joe-mainland probably owns the resorts on the island so joe-island-boy is shit out of luck if he's in hospital because he won't see a cent of that tourism cash. Joe-mainland will be happy to employ Joe-island-boy for minimum wage (or less if he can find a way around it!) but only if Joe-island-boy is fit and healthy. Sorry no health benefits.
In a single day? Man, that's no challenge. I've had the lot in a single post!!!
It is different from a patent troll in much the same way a football is different from space rocket - by having no properties in common!
Now I object to that. It simply isn't true. They have lots in common
The rocket is made of matter, and the football team is made of matter.
The rocket has no brains and neither does the football team.
The rocket overcomes the enemy (gravity) by means of brute force and so does the football team.
The rocket going up may generate interest among females, and unlike the typical slashdotter so will the football team.
The rocket is dangerous and must be treated with respect to avoid injury. Likewise the football team.
The rocket will launch you into the straosphere, and so will the football team if you're not careful.
Larabee was the Chief's dumbass assistant.
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/larabee.html
Hymie was the robot
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/hymie.html
Are you telling me Moonraker wasn't real???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonraker_(film)
WHAT? But Roger Moore is British! It even says so in Wikipedia, so he's been up in space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Moore
It's on Wikipedia. It must be real!
What do you mean that's not real life? I don't understand! That can't be right. If it is how can I ever aspire to having sex in zero G with a gorgeous Russian spy?