This is the Tragedy of the commons, a result of selfish use of a common resource by selfish individuals. It's not just spammers and marketers: If my server is getting pounded I might have to take an arguably selfish action by withdrawing it.
I like to think there's an answer out there in game theory, but with the players numbering in the hundreds of millions if not billions, may be unsolvable.
Are you running an AV program, some seem to take their sweet, sweet time sniffing every file that crosses its path.
I should add in my experience, XP is slower than 2000 in transerring files, particularly from flash cards & such. So it wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be an OS issue.
I'm not seeing that problem, it seems to run fine for me with saved emails dating back to 1998 (imported thru Navigator 3 on) split into folders in six-month increments with about 4000 mails in each (a lot of those mails with attachments).
After deleting, you have to compress the folders (something dating back to the Navigator 3 days) & do not interrupt while it's doing so even if it seems locked or you will lose your mail. If you have a lot of mail it might take some time.
The major bug for me is you still often get a blank window when trying to reply to an email, it didn't happen in Mozilla Suite.
Once again you try to flame me by implying that I have nothing better to do than sit here in cordial discussion with you.
You're forgetting that you called me dim four times. You said I need professional help for misunderstanding a point you didn't make. You said I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about whan I'm on point and when your posts were absolutely free of all content except insults.
All this over Outlook 2007 not rendering HTML email.
If you think this post is a flame, you're wrong. Your move.
OK, to recap. GGP: I filter all HTML email. This Outlook 2007 thing is awesome. To hell with HTML email You: OH noes! How can you do that? Selfish bastard, think of the spammers! & if you dare do that, I'll stuff large jpegs down your throat! Me: He filters his email, not yours. You are still free to send that crap to others You: You're Dim! What I told him is that personal preferences are immaterial here! Me: That's not what you said, and apparently they DO matter judging by your reaction You: You're Dim! Dim Dim Dim! Get professional help! Me: Again you fail to respond. Spammers suck. I'm filtering HTML, deal with it. Look into another line of work. You: I told you THREE TIMES (that I'm Dim I guess). Your arguments have nothing to do with what I've written (that I'm dim I guess). Stop it you Bot!
You can't even deliver a proper response, only insults. I can only assume, in light of your superior intellect, is that you are distracted by this issue that threatens your livelihood.
Since you keep sidestepping the topic I raised, here are the facts about your little issue. Only junk mailers care about it. Only spammers think their right to send outweighs the rights of millions to be left alone. Anything that makes spamming harder makes the rest of our lives easier. Threatening to jam giant jpegs down our throats because Outlook won't render HTML with CSS anymore only serves to point out your desperation. You're absolutely right, I honestly don't care how hard your life's going to be now that Outlook won't render your spams. Boo frickin hoo, call the waaambulance.
To get back to the topic OF THIS THREAD that set you off so dramatically, what does it matter to you if I filter MY HTML emails. Why the emotional overreaction, as if I didn't know. I'm not getting into and filtering your inbox. How you manage your email is of no interest to anyone on the planet, why the kneejerk reaction when the GGP stated his? Why does my filtering policy concern you, unless you're sending junk I don't want to read. I never buy or act on any information received in an unsolicited message, so why do you so desperately want me to read it?
I recommend finding another line of work. If you want a shoulder to cry on, go look in a marketing forum, Slashdot is not the place for it.
The point you responded to is people filtering HTML mails straight to dev/null. You jumped on him like your livelihood was threatened, and now you call me names like some 8th grader.
Here's all you need to know: It does not matter whether Outlook renders your spams or not, if HTML is filtered out before it can render.
His point is HE filters HIS html email. He does not filter yours. You are still free to read and enjoy those newsletters, just don't upgrade Outlook. How does his habits concern you unless you are worried he cannot open marketing messages youre' sending.
He's not going to be opening unrenderable mail because he filters HTML mail like I do. Also he is unlikely to upgrade to the latest Outlook much less use it to read mail. If large jpegs suddenly start arriving, those are one filter away from joining.gif in dev/null.
Newsletters should be a clickable link to a website, it shouldn't be megabytes of HTMl stuffed down user's throats.
Any news that makes spammers and marketers hair turn gray is happy news indeed.
There's the difference between a person's "right of publicity" and the "newsworthy use" of images (particularly of a public person). Since even tabs can claim they are distributing "news" information, they are protected by several Supreme Court precedents, except in the case of the most blatant lies and even then, it would be over the words and not the pictures unless it was the photos that were doctored in a defamatory manner.
This is opposed to unauthorized usage of likeness for-profit, especially of public persons whose endorsement would be considerable (in products (including film production)) or in the ads for the movie.
Though Han Solo belongs to Lucasfilm, Harison Ford's face still belongs to him.
If a reasonable person were to view the CGI character and identify it as Harrison Ford, and the filmmaker had not secured prior permission from Ford for the use of his likeness, then Ford would have grounds for a right-of-publicity action against the filmmakers.
I'm fairly sure Apple will have iChat functionality available by release.
That does not seem likely, Cingular would set a horrible precedent by allowing this alternative to their pay-per-SMS system that they make gazillion$ of dollars from.
FYI, two stroke bikes get horrid mileage. I have a 500cc dirtbike that gets maybe 10mpg. Admittedly, it might have something to do with the way I ride.
It does not seem likely that anyone - even the gov't - is going to run some time-consuming, million-dollar data recovery effort over some random ebay flash card.
GP is correct insofar that Landis (not Millar as he had it) was raised strict Mennonite and was forbidden to wear shorts. He eventually moved to California to get out of his parent's umbra, train, and presumably that's where he found out about drugs.
Look, they don't want to be 1337 like us. Personally I revel in being a geek, but for many, turning into a geek would be more scary than being pwned. They just want their myspace and pr0n, they don't have the time or brains or the interest to learn the computer workings. Me, I just want them to stop calling when they get browser jacked. Therefore it would behoove us & the intire Internet to see to it that they surf safely.
My XP machine never BSODs either -- it just freezes cursor in place like an unpatched 95 box. I can make my win2k boxes BSOD on restore if I remove USB devices while it's hibernating.
It's never been an honor, with the likes of Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden nominated or winning. I think Time finally noticed the atrocities of myspace users, in terms of damage to the internet not to mention each other.
Google is a part of your lifestyle? You can't be for real unless you're some marketing droid. But the fact is there are people out there who say "I won't change, it is teh easy," but they need to realize Google records every search they make. http://www.dummysoftware.com/gzapper.html
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This is the Tragedy of the commons, a result of selfish use of a common resource by selfish individuals. It's not just spammers and marketers: If my server is getting pounded I might have to take an arguably selfish action by withdrawing it.
I like to think there's an answer out there in game theory, but with the players numbering in the hundreds of millions if not billions, may be unsolvable.
Are you running an AV program, some seem to take their sweet, sweet time sniffing every file that crosses its path.
I should add in my experience, XP is slower than 2000 in transerring files, particularly from flash cards & such. So it wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be an OS issue.
I'm not seeing that problem, it seems to run fine for me with saved emails dating back to 1998 (imported thru Navigator 3 on) split into folders in six-month increments with about 4000 mails in each (a lot of those mails with attachments).
After deleting, you have to compress the folders (something dating back to the Navigator 3 days) & do not interrupt while it's doing so even if it seems locked or you will lose your mail. If you have a lot of mail it might take some time.
The major bug for me is you still often get a blank window when trying to reply to an email, it didn't happen in Mozilla Suite.
Once again you try to flame me by implying that I have nothing better to do than sit here in cordial discussion with you.
You're forgetting that you called me dim four times. You said I need professional help for misunderstanding a point you didn't make. You said I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about whan I'm on point and when your posts were absolutely free of all content except insults.
All this over Outlook 2007 not rendering HTML email.
If you think this post is a flame, you're wrong. Your move.
OK, to recap.
GGP: I filter all HTML email. This Outlook 2007 thing is awesome. To hell with HTML email
You: OH noes! How can you do that? Selfish bastard, think of the spammers! & if you dare do that, I'll stuff large jpegs down your throat!
Me: He filters his email, not yours. You are still free to send that crap to others
You: You're Dim! What I told him is that personal preferences are immaterial here!
Me: That's not what you said, and apparently they DO matter judging by your reaction
You: You're Dim! Dim Dim Dim! Get professional help!
Me: Again you fail to respond. Spammers suck. I'm filtering HTML, deal with it. Look into another line of work.
You: I told you THREE TIMES (that I'm Dim I guess). Your arguments have nothing to do with what I've written (that I'm dim I guess). Stop it you Bot!
PS I'm a Bot
You can't even deliver a proper response, only insults. I can only assume, in light of your superior intellect, is that you are distracted by this issue that threatens your livelihood.
Since you keep sidestepping the topic I raised, here are the facts about your little issue. Only junk mailers care about it. Only spammers think their right to send outweighs the rights of millions to be left alone. Anything that makes spamming harder makes the rest of our lives easier. Threatening to jam giant jpegs down our throats because Outlook won't render HTML with CSS anymore only serves to point out your desperation. You're absolutely right, I honestly don't care how hard your life's going to be now that Outlook won't render your spams. Boo frickin hoo, call the waaambulance.
To get back to the topic OF THIS THREAD that set you off so dramatically, what does it matter to you if I filter MY HTML emails. Why the emotional overreaction, as if I didn't know. I'm not getting into and filtering your inbox. How you manage your email is of no interest to anyone on the planet, why the kneejerk reaction when the GGP stated his? Why does my filtering policy concern you, unless you're sending junk I don't want to read. I never buy or act on any information received in an unsolicited message, so why do you so desperately want me to read it?
I recommend finding another line of work. If you want a shoulder to cry on, go look in a marketing forum, Slashdot is not the place for it.
The point you responded to is people filtering HTML mails straight to dev/null. You jumped on him like your livelihood was threatened, and now you call me names like some 8th grader.
Here's all you need to know: It does not matter whether Outlook renders your spams or not, if HTML is filtered out before it can render.
Heavens Gate II Electric Boogaloo
His point is HE filters HIS html email. He does not filter yours. You are still free to read and enjoy those newsletters, just don't upgrade Outlook. How does his habits concern you unless you are worried he cannot open marketing messages youre' sending.
.gif in dev/null.
He's not going to be opening unrenderable mail because he filters HTML mail like I do. Also he is unlikely to upgrade to the latest Outlook much less use it to read mail. If large jpegs suddenly start arriving, those are one filter away from joining
Newsletters should be a clickable link to a website, it shouldn't be megabytes of HTMl stuffed down user's throats.
Any news that makes spammers and marketers hair turn gray is happy news indeed.
There's the difference between a person's "right of publicity" and the "newsworthy use" of images (particularly of a public person). Since even tabs can claim they are distributing "news" information, they are protected by several Supreme Court precedents, except in the case of the most blatant lies and even then, it would be over the words and not the pictures unless it was the photos that were doctored in a defamatory manner.
This is opposed to unauthorized usage of likeness for-profit, especially of public persons whose endorsement would be considerable (in products (including film production)) or in the ads for the movie.
Though Han Solo belongs to Lucasfilm, Harison Ford's face still belongs to him.
If a reasonable person were to view the CGI character and identify it as Harrison Ford, and the filmmaker had not secured prior permission from Ford for the use of his likeness, then Ford would have grounds for a right-of-publicity action against the filmmakers.
I'm fairly sure Apple will have iChat functionality available by release.
That does not seem likely, Cingular would set a horrible precedent by allowing this alternative to their pay-per-SMS system that they make gazillion$ of dollars from.
FYI, two stroke bikes get horrid mileage. I have a 500cc dirtbike that gets maybe 10mpg. Admittedly, it might have something to do with the way I ride.
send pics to meee tooo sample@example.com
It does not seem likely that anyone - even the gov't - is going to run some time-consuming, million-dollar data recovery effort over some random ebay flash card.
Maybe I'll finally be able to get my Minority Report display (sans Aero interface, hopefully)
i mages/media.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/caroledanforth/tomcruise/
SeaMonkey. Ubuntu. Gimp.
Great applications. Totally unacceptable in corporate settings, just because of their names.
I would wager adoption rates would double if Open Source apps weren't being named by 7-year-olds.
GP is correct insofar that Landis (not Millar as he had it) was raised strict Mennonite and was forbidden to wear shorts. He eventually moved to California to get out of his parent's umbra, train, and presumably that's where he found out about drugs.
OT:This is my 2,000th Slashdot comment...
Damn. I only received 337 of them, my filter must have caught the rest!
We need to educate users
Look, they don't want to be 1337 like us. Personally I revel in being a geek, but for many, turning into a geek would be more scary than being pwned. They just want their myspace and pr0n, they don't have the time or brains or the interest to learn the computer workings. Me, I just want them to stop calling when they get browser jacked. Therefore it would behoove us & the intire Internet to see to it that they surf safely.
My XP machine never BSODs either -- it just freezes cursor in place like an unpatched 95 box. I can make my win2k boxes BSOD on restore if I remove USB devices while it's hibernating.
It's never been an honor, with the likes of Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden nominated or winning. I think Time finally noticed the atrocities of myspace users, in terms of damage to the internet not to mention each other.
Google is a part of your lifestyle? You can't be for real unless you're some marketing droid.
But the fact is there are people out there who say "I won't change, it is teh easy," but they need to realize Google records every search they make.
http://www.dummysoftware.com/gzapper.html
Also, they need to dump the useless "supplemental results" or at least let us turn that crap off.
I remember when XM radio was ad free & I was born in 1974, so there.