Then you'll have to wait until we figure out how a biological brain actually 'thinks' because that's what's necessary for this to work, and we're nowhere NEAR knowing how 'thinking' works -- and so-called 'deep learning algorithms' are NOT 'thinking' and never will be. Total fantasy.
Nope. They'll never really work right and people will die needlessly and in utter horror being totally incapable of stopping the vehicle from killing them.
The whole approach is wrong. 'Deep learning algorithms' CANNOT 'THINK'. Never will either. Wrong approach. To drive a car you need a brain that THINKS.
Don't buy cars with microphones and cameras on the inside. If for some gods-be-damned reason the car won't function without them (why the hell wouldn't it?) then don't buy that model car.
Additionally: don't want to be tracked everywhere via GPS? Easy enough to locate a GPS antenna, cut the wire, and cap the receiver end of the cable with a 50-ohm resistor, so it doesn't come off as a 'fault' that makes some idiot light turn on.
Then they're dumb and they'll get what they deserve.
By the way what happens when 'some stranger' is a pedophile who managed to hack into things and is listening to your kids? What then?
Or how about if it's criminals who want to listen for when you're not home, so they can rob you blind?
Or how about if it's some shitty government agency that thinks it should have the right to listen in on whatever they choose, and have machines sift it for trigger words? You find you're on the no-fly list for no valid reason, and are being investigated for sedition, or terrorism, or child porn, or whatever, because of something out-of-context your so-called 'voice assistant' happened to record. What then?
There's any number of reasons why your personal privacy in your own home should be sacred, and if someone ignores that then they're dumb.
I wouldn't call it their 'best thing going', it's been massively bloated for quite some time now. You shouldn't need a quad-core 3GHz processor just to look at a fucking map.
Listen buddy I think you need to go review what a 'Luddite' is, you're not even getting that right. There's damned good reasons why the scientific community by far and large shy away from modifying the human genome, and you're clearly and objectively not smart enough to say you know better than they do. China is being reckless, plain and simple. Of course I'm hoping they're just lying about all this like they tend to do, but it doesn't change the fact that you don't understand what you're talking about.
"Obviously the first applications should be self driving Buses, Long Haul 18 wheelers, Garbage Trucks, etc. etc."
Those vehicles have so much more mass than a passenger car so they'll do so much more damage and kill so many more people when (not if, when) they fuck up. A 'self driving bus' full of people when it fucks up will kill dozens.
Also the market for those is much smaller. Less profit to be made.
Invest billions in what execs think is 'Just another new product R&D cycle'
Get sold the idea that 'deep learning algorithms' are enough, just keep throwing more and more data at it!
Discover you can't get it over the finish line because NO ONE has any fucking idea how a brain 'thinks'
Legal department's analysis shows the risk/benefit ratio is so high that you'd be nuts to actually launch this hot mess
Like I've been saying all along.
The approach of the current crop of so-called, inaccurately named 'AI' is all wrong. You need a fully thinking brain behind the wheel, not just some shitty half-assed 'learning algorithm' that doesn't know the difference between a living being and a lamppost, or a real stop-sign from one painted on the back of a T-shirt, or that just because a stop-sign has some graffiti or a sticker on it doesn't mean it's not a stop-sign anymore.
If your so-called 'self driving car' needs to pull over in the middle of a trip and 'phone home' so a remote HUMAN operator can 'guide it through' whatever it is that's making it vapor-lock on you, then it's not suitable 'technology' for public roads. Period.
When you say 'slashdot commenters' that's just code for 'religious nutjobs', right? They're the ones who are trying to convince everyone that all science is of The Devil and therefore should be rejected. Except science that benefits them, of course, that's perfectly okay. Science they don't understand or don't agree with is Satanic and intended to tempt the Faithful to stray from the True Path; things like human-caused climate change, or that the Earth is older than 6000 years.
Seeing the Chinese track record concerning human rights they probably are developing this as a backup plan in case they fail at turning their own citizens into good little obedient robots; create a slave race of smarter simians, then kill off the human population (except for The Rich and The Ruling Class, that is).
This is what happens when your species doesn't have any natural predators: You create your own extinction-level events.
Now let's see, which extinction-level event is going to get us?
o Nuclear war
o Runaway GMOs
o Runaway AIs
o Global pandemic
o MRSAs (created by our own antibiotics)
o Human-caused climate change
o Chinese-created human-level-intellect simians (how convenient, the replacement for us)
o All the above
???
Racists and bigots have the same right to Freedom of Speech as everyone else, and everyone else also has the same right to Freedom of Speech to tell them to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out, too.
Similarly you have the right to attempt to troll me or anyone else -- and I have the right to tell you "0/10, lurk moar", and also "YOU HAVE TO GO BACK: https://boards.4chan.org/pol " when you post utter and complete drivel like you just did.
Oh and I'm not infringing on your right to Freedom of Speech -- I'm just telling you where you can take it. xD
So is everyone else. xD
Oh my how did we ever survive before the 1990's when we started having the Internet? It was all stone knives and bearskins living in caves then BOOM, Internet!
No, see, they *do* get it, but what they 'get' is learned from drug dealers: 'first taste is free'. They start you out free or cheap, then jack up the price once you're hooked.
They saw all you so-called 'cord cutters' coming a mile away.
Want off the treadmill? Get an antenna on your house and buy a TiVo, and be happy with OTA broadcast.
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Then you'll have to wait until we figure out how a biological brain actually 'thinks' because that's what's necessary for this to work, and we're nowhere NEAR knowing how 'thinking' works -- and so-called 'deep learning algorithms' are NOT 'thinking' and never will be. Total fantasy.
Nope. They'll never really work right and people will die needlessly and in utter horror being totally incapable of stopping the vehicle from killing them.
The whole approach is wrong. 'Deep learning algorithms' CANNOT 'THINK'. Never will either. Wrong approach. To drive a car you need a brain that THINKS.
Geez, how dumb are some of you? Unplug it from power! Now it's OFF! There was that so damned hard?
Unplug it from power. Now you're sure it's off.
Transceiver antennas can be disconnected and the cables shunted into a dummy load. End of 'external connectivity' problem.
Don't buy cars with microphones and cameras on the inside. If for some gods-be-damned reason the car won't function without them (why the hell wouldn't it?) then don't buy that model car.
Additionally: don't want to be tracked everywhere via GPS? Easy enough to locate a GPS antenna, cut the wire, and cap the receiver end of the cable with a 50-ohm resistor, so it doesn't come off as a 'fault' that makes some idiot light turn on.
Step 0.1: If you really, really insist you can't live without this Alexa piece of shit, unplug the gods-be-damned thing when you're not using it.
Then they're dumb and they'll get what they deserve.
By the way what happens when 'some stranger' is a pedophile who managed to hack into things and is listening to your kids? What then?
Or how about if it's criminals who want to listen for when you're not home, so they can rob you blind?
Or how about if it's some shitty government agency that thinks it should have the right to listen in on whatever they choose, and have machines sift it for trigger words? You find you're on the no-fly list for no valid reason, and are being investigated for sedition, or terrorism, or child porn, or whatever, because of something out-of-context your so-called 'voice assistant' happened to record. What then?
There's any number of reasons why your personal privacy in your own home should be sacred, and if someone ignores that then they're dumb.
I wouldn't call it their 'best thing going', it's been massively bloated for quite some time now. You shouldn't need a quad-core 3GHz processor just to look at a fucking map.
Listen buddy I think you need to go review what a 'Luddite' is, you're not even getting that right. There's damned good reasons why the scientific community by far and large shy away from modifying the human genome, and you're clearly and objectively not smart enough to say you know better than they do. China is being reckless, plain and simple. Of course I'm hoping they're just lying about all this like they tend to do, but it doesn't change the fact that you don't understand what you're talking about.
"..very unlikely..
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
*poke poke poke*
*Murphy wakes up*
Get off it.
"Obviously the first applications should be self driving Buses, Long Haul 18 wheelers, Garbage Trucks, etc. etc."
Those vehicles have so much more mass than a passenger car so they'll do so much more damage and kill so many more people when (not if, when) they fuck up. A 'self driving bus' full of people when it fucks up will kill dozens.
Also the market for those is much smaller. Less profit to be made.
Invest billions in what execs think is 'Just another new product R&D cycle'
Get sold the idea that 'deep learning algorithms' are enough, just keep throwing more and more data at it!
Discover you can't get it over the finish line because NO ONE has any fucking idea how a brain 'thinks'
Legal department's analysis shows the risk/benefit ratio is so high that you'd be nuts to actually launch this hot mess
Like I've been saying all along.
The approach of the current crop of so-called, inaccurately named 'AI' is all wrong. You need a fully thinking brain behind the wheel, not just some shitty half-assed 'learning algorithm' that doesn't know the difference between a living being and a lamppost, or a real stop-sign from one painted on the back of a T-shirt, or that just because a stop-sign has some graffiti or a sticker on it doesn't mean it's not a stop-sign anymore.
If your so-called 'self driving car' needs to pull over in the middle of a trip and 'phone home' so a remote HUMAN operator can 'guide it through' whatever it is that's making it vapor-lock on you, then it's not suitable 'technology' for public roads. Period.
When you say 'slashdot commenters' that's just code for 'religious nutjobs', right? They're the ones who are trying to convince everyone that all science is of The Devil and therefore should be rejected. Except science that benefits them, of course, that's perfectly okay. Science they don't understand or don't agree with is Satanic and intended to tempt the Faithful to stray from the True Path; things like human-caused climate change, or that the Earth is older than 6000 years.
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK: https://boards.4chan.org/pol
What could possibly go wrong!
Go on keep invoking Murphy, fool.
Seeing the Chinese track record concerning human rights they probably are developing this as a backup plan in case they fail at turning their own citizens into good little obedient robots; create a slave race of smarter simians, then kill off the human population (except for The Rich and The Ruling Class, that is).
This is what happens when your species doesn't have any natural predators: You create your own extinction-level events.
Now let's see, which extinction-level event is going to get us?
o Nuclear war
o Runaway GMOs
o Runaway AIs
o Global pandemic
o MRSAs (created by our own antibiotics)
o Human-caused climate change
o Chinese-created human-level-intellect simians (how convenient, the replacement for us)
o All the above
???
Keep cherrypicking, just like Powerball you can't win if you don't play! xD xD xD
Racists and bigots have the same right to Freedom of Speech as everyone else, and everyone else also has the same right to Freedom of Speech to tell them to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out, too.
Similarly you have the right to attempt to troll me or anyone else -- and I have the right to tell you "0/10, lurk moar", and also "YOU HAVE TO GO BACK: https://boards.4chan.org/pol " when you post utter and complete drivel like you just did.
Oh and I'm not infringing on your right to Freedom of Speech -- I'm just telling you where you can take it. xD
So is everyone else. xD
0/10 lurk moar.
Trolling used to be a art, now any room-temperature IQ idiot with an internet connection thinks they can do it. Sad, sad, sad.
Oh my how did we ever survive before the 1990's when we started having the Internet? It was all stone knives and bearskins living in caves then BOOM, Internet!
Can you put an antenna on your roof and get a DVR? One-time expense.
No, see, they *do* get it, but what they 'get' is learned from drug dealers: 'first taste is free'. They start you out free or cheap, then jack up the price once you're hooked.
They saw all you so-called 'cord cutters' coming a mile away.
Want off the treadmill? Get an antenna on your house and buy a TiVo, and be happy with OTA broadcast.