Stop making doom-and-gloom assumptions. Nobody wants to wreck the economy (except a certain sitting POTUS, who is so inept at business that he doesn't understand 'the economy' at all). Being a Negative Nelly doesn't serve anyone, including yourself.
"Waah, I don't like people talking about things I don't like hearing about!
Blow me. Shushing people up because what they're saying doesn't suit your agenda is Page One from the Authoritarian Playbook. Bugger off.
"Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease."
The 'disease' may be FATAL; you really want to deal with that? The 'cure' is NOT FATAL. At worst it'll be a little inconvenient. But if someone (You?) can't be bothered to change even ONE THING about the way you live, in order to ensure the Human Species gets to continue and the Earth remains habitable, then you're the problem, not the 'cure'.
We do not NEED to keep using fossil fuels. There are viable alternatives, including nuclear power.
We can all move to plug-in electric vehicles.
Those two alone would mitigate a big percentage of human CO2 release into the atmosphere, and it would be more or less painless.
..no, I have to disagree with you.
The problem with 'interacting' with people on the Internet ('interacting' in quotes because it's more like ersatz-interaction) is that there is no real accountability or consequences to what you say to people. It's easy to be a flaming asshole to someone when you don't have to do it to them face-to-face, where you'll be called out in a very personal way for being an asshole -- and that's even when people use their actual, in-real-life name; when people use an alias or are completely anonymous, their behavior can be at least an order of magnitude worse than just being an asshole to someone, vis-a-vis trolls that literally dogpile on someone to the point where a sensitive person has their life ruined and are driven to suicide.
Note that this isn't even a new problem; in pre-Internet days, during the dialup BBS (Bulletin Board System, for those of you too young to know what I'm talking about) era, the problem existed then, too, but since nothing was networked, each BBS being a standalone system, the behavior of some wasn't as noticeable.
Note that so far as I'm concerned what I'm talking about here is just human nature. When all you're 'relating' to is text on a screen, there's no sense of connectedness to other human beings, unless you actually know them in real life and have some sort of relationship to them. A complete stranger, who is just a name and some text on a screen? So far as your brain is concerned, that may as well be just some computer code spitting out text to you. It's only the Value and Norms associated with Social Order that keeps people in check, and as we can see that breaks down fairly easily in many peoples' cases. Consequently, like a virus, some people disregarding these Values and Norms eventually drives some people to likewise abandon Values and Norms -- and the viscious cycle continues, until either people are driven away, or people join the fray. Thus we have the Internet of 2019.
Note that none of which I speak even begins to touch on what I'll refer to as 'Intentional Bad Actors': paid trolls, political organizations, State actors, intelligence organizations, and so on, leveraging the Internet in ways similar to what I've already spoken of, but for political or monetary gain -- or even as a form of warfare.
Sadly, so-called 'social media', which ironically is rather anti-social, acts like a petrie dish for breeding all the above. As with many things, social media sites were originated in many cases with the best and brightest of intentions, but without any inkling that abuses could become so rampant and toxic, and having no real effective 'immune system' in place to prevent such abuses, other than human moderators and end-user self-policing, bad behavior, trolls, and intentional 'gaming' of the social-media system is now running out of control, and the future of social media is unclear: how do you fix this system without completely destroying any of the original value and original intent that it held? Would humanity be better off without it entirely? Or do we institute a system of legislation whereby everyone must use a legal name, prove who they are, and thus provide accountability, but at the cost of any anonymity whatsoever? Or do we insist that social media sites engage in the endless game of Whack-a-Mole that moderation of content has already become? Or some other solution yet to be devised?
Your all-or-nothing thinking shows you're not smart. We don't have to """dismantle""" society. We have to CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS. Fucking deal with it.
Or, you know, we, as a species, could stop being pants-on-head stupid about this, get our collective fingers out of our collective ears, uncover our collective eyes, actually acknowledge this shit is happening and it's at least in part our fault, and actually DO something about it.
Just sayin'..
Say the AC who gets modded down to negative one on a daily basis. If you had anything worthwhile to say you'd log in and put your name to it. Go back to 4chan and fap to trap porn, that's where you belong.
Are you kidding me? 'People' can't accept 'risks' they aren't even aware of. The average person has no idea that all the personal information they willingly feed Facebook is being sold off to parties unknown, and many of them when shown *evidence* of this still wouldn't believe it, all because of Facebooks' and social medias' long-standing campaign of propaganda, programming people to believe that 'sharing everything is normal and good' and that 'people who want privacy and hide things are bad and wrong'.
It's time for Facebook to be eliminated. Burn it to the ground. Every hard drive, every SSD, every backup tape. Drop Zuckerberg into an oubliette. Enough is enough.
I can sum you up in one or two ways: either "alternative facts" or "moving the goalposts". So-called 'AI' is GARBAGE, plain and simple, it's no better than it was back in the 90's, they just run it on bigger faster hardware and stick a "New! Improved!" sign on it. You're stupid if you trust your life to it.
The entire tech industry in many cases employ more 'contingent workers' than they do direct-hire employees, and quite frankly as one getting the hell off the 'contigent worker' treadmill: it's a shitty way to live. While their calls for better minimum wages and actual benefits for contingent workers sounds good on the surface, they're still 'second class citizens' compared to the direct-hire workers, and in some cases that's literal not figurative.
I don't give a shit. If you want to go with bullshit excuses for reasoning like that then you probably believe your computer is 'alive' and 'awake' and 'self aware' and 'has a soul' or whatever it is you believe. The shit they keep calling 'AI' isn't 'intelligent' in the human sense. It's not even very good software compared to all the hype. Calling this crap 'AI' is nonsense. IDGAF about 'imitating' anything. It either is or is not 'intelligent', there is no middle ground. What they keep trotting out can't 'think' and never will. The approach is wrong, no amount of 'imitating' will fix that. You can't build machines that do what our brains do without understanding how the total system that is the human brain actually functions. No arguing semantics will get around that.
If you're so fucking smart then why haven't you mapped out in realtime all detailed workings of a living human brain then written software/built hardware to emulate that, thus creating the first real self-aware, cognitive, sentient AI? Because you can't, you are dumb, and you're too dumb to even know you're dumb.
You are dumb. Programming a computer to play a game does not require it to be 'intelligent' and does not impress anyone with above room-temperature IQ. Get correct.
Maybe we ought to be thinking more about how to teach these virtual children to be "good" instead of figuring out how to handicap them so that we can feel superior.
They're not 'virtual children', they're shitty pieces of software that can't think, have no capacity for 'understanding' and overall are CRAP. Stop anthropomorphizing shitty software algorithms.
Considering how often we're on opposing sides of whatever issue, I found it remarkable that I had to check the by-line of your comment to be sure it wasn't me who wrote it.
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Stop making doom-and-gloom assumptions. Nobody wants to wreck the economy (except a certain sitting POTUS, who is so inept at business that he doesn't understand 'the economy' at all). Being a Negative Nelly doesn't serve anyone, including yourself.
"Waah, I don't like people talking about things I don't like hearing about!
Blow me. Shushing people up because what they're saying doesn't suit your agenda is Page One from the Authoritarian Playbook. Bugger off.
"Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease."
The 'disease' may be FATAL; you really want to deal with that? The 'cure' is NOT FATAL. At worst it'll be a little inconvenient. But if someone (You?) can't be bothered to change even ONE THING about the way you live, in order to ensure the Human Species gets to continue and the Earth remains habitable, then you're the problem, not the 'cure'.
We do not NEED to keep using fossil fuels. There are viable alternatives, including nuclear power.
We can all move to plug-in electric vehicles.
Those two alone would mitigate a big percentage of human CO2 release into the atmosphere, and it would be more or less painless.
Don't be such a big baby about this.
..no, I have to disagree with you.
The problem with 'interacting' with people on the Internet ('interacting' in quotes because it's more like ersatz-interaction) is that there is no real accountability or consequences to what you say to people. It's easy to be a flaming asshole to someone when you don't have to do it to them face-to-face, where you'll be called out in a very personal way for being an asshole -- and that's even when people use their actual, in-real-life name; when people use an alias or are completely anonymous, their behavior can be at least an order of magnitude worse than just being an asshole to someone, vis-a-vis trolls that literally dogpile on someone to the point where a sensitive person has their life ruined and are driven to suicide.
Note that this isn't even a new problem; in pre-Internet days, during the dialup BBS (Bulletin Board System, for those of you too young to know what I'm talking about) era, the problem existed then, too, but since nothing was networked, each BBS being a standalone system, the behavior of some wasn't as noticeable.
Note that so far as I'm concerned what I'm talking about here is just human nature. When all you're 'relating' to is text on a screen, there's no sense of connectedness to other human beings, unless you actually know them in real life and have some sort of relationship to them. A complete stranger, who is just a name and some text on a screen? So far as your brain is concerned, that may as well be just some computer code spitting out text to you. It's only the Value and Norms associated with Social Order that keeps people in check, and as we can see that breaks down fairly easily in many peoples' cases. Consequently, like a virus, some people disregarding these Values and Norms eventually drives some people to likewise abandon Values and Norms -- and the viscious cycle continues, until either people are driven away, or people join the fray. Thus we have the Internet of 2019.
Note that none of which I speak even begins to touch on what I'll refer to as 'Intentional Bad Actors': paid trolls, political organizations, State actors, intelligence organizations, and so on, leveraging the Internet in ways similar to what I've already spoken of, but for political or monetary gain -- or even as a form of warfare.
Sadly, so-called 'social media', which ironically is rather anti-social, acts like a petrie dish for breeding all the above. As with many things, social media sites were originated in many cases with the best and brightest of intentions, but without any inkling that abuses could become so rampant and toxic, and having no real effective 'immune system' in place to prevent such abuses, other than human moderators and end-user self-policing, bad behavior, trolls, and intentional 'gaming' of the social-media system is now running out of control, and the future of social media is unclear: how do you fix this system without completely destroying any of the original value and original intent that it held? Would humanity be better off without it entirely? Or do we institute a system of legislation whereby everyone must use a legal name, prove who they are, and thus provide accountability, but at the cost of any anonymity whatsoever? Or do we insist that social media sites engage in the endless game of Whack-a-Mole that moderation of content has already become? Or some other solution yet to be devised?
So is mine, but I'm saying *WE* need to do something not sit on our hands and ignore it.
Your all-or-nothing thinking shows you're not smart. We don't have to """dismantle""" society. We have to CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS. Fucking deal with it.
Your nearsightedness is showing. Please read up on the subject to discover how many things you're ignoring.
..or, you know, we could stop dumping so much goddamned CO2 into the atmosphere.
Just sayin'..
Or, you know, we, as a species, could stop being pants-on-head stupid about this, get our collective fingers out of our collective ears, uncover our collective eyes, actually acknowledge this shit is happening and it's at least in part our fault, and actually DO something about it.
Just sayin'..
Say the AC who gets modded down to negative one on a daily basis. If you had anything worthwhile to say you'd log in and put your name to it. Go back to 4chan and fap to trap porn, that's where you belong.
Are you kidding me? 'People' can't accept 'risks' they aren't even aware of. The average person has no idea that all the personal information they willingly feed Facebook is being sold off to parties unknown, and many of them when shown *evidence* of this still wouldn't believe it, all because of Facebooks' and social medias' long-standing campaign of propaganda, programming people to believe that 'sharing everything is normal and good' and that 'people who want privacy and hide things are bad and wrong'.
TROLLOLOLOL.
You have to go back.
It's time for Facebook to be eliminated. Burn it to the ground. Every hard drive, every SSD, every backup tape. Drop Zuckerberg into an oubliette. Enough is enough.
I can sum you up in one or two ways: either "alternative facts" or "moving the goalposts". So-called 'AI' is GARBAGE, plain and simple, it's no better than it was back in the 90's, they just run it on bigger faster hardware and stick a "New! Improved!" sign on it. You're stupid if you trust your life to it.
Blame social media, and how it's leveraged by (for lack of a better overall term for them) Bad People to affect society in bad ways.
The entire tech industry in many cases employ more 'contingent workers' than they do direct-hire employees, and quite frankly as one getting the hell off the 'contigent worker' treadmill: it's a shitty way to live. While their calls for better minimum wages and actual benefits for contingent workers sounds good on the surface, they're still 'second class citizens' compared to the direct-hire workers, and in some cases that's literal not figurative.
Go troll somewhere else.
I don't give a shit. If you want to go with bullshit excuses for reasoning like that then you probably believe your computer is 'alive' and 'awake' and 'self aware' and 'has a soul' or whatever it is you believe. The shit they keep calling 'AI' isn't 'intelligent' in the human sense. It's not even very good software compared to all the hype. Calling this crap 'AI' is nonsense. IDGAF about 'imitating' anything. It either is or is not 'intelligent', there is no middle ground. What they keep trotting out can't 'think' and never will. The approach is wrong, no amount of 'imitating' will fix that. You can't build machines that do what our brains do without understanding how the total system that is the human brain actually functions. No arguing semantics will get around that.
Put the bong down, stop being a stoner, and rejoin reality.
If you're so fucking smart then why haven't you mapped out in realtime all detailed workings of a living human brain then written software/built hardware to emulate that, thus creating the first real self-aware, cognitive, sentient AI? Because you can't, you are dumb, and you're too dumb to even know you're dumb.
You are dumb. Programming a computer to play a game does not require it to be 'intelligent' and does not impress anyone with above room-temperature IQ. Get correct.
Maybe we ought to be thinking more about how to teach these virtual children to be "good" instead of figuring out how to handicap them so that we can feel superior.
They're not 'virtual children', they're shitty pieces of software that can't think, have no capacity for 'understanding' and overall are CRAP. Stop anthropomorphizing shitty software algorithms.
Considering how often we're on opposing sides of whatever issue, I found it remarkable that I had to check the by-line of your comment to be sure it wasn't me who wrote it.
Yeah sure because everywhere else is just such a Utopia for intelligent people.
No, it's utter and complete shit, but you don't seem to be smart enough to see that.