LOL no, you can't trust your VPN either. At current, you can't trust the Internet at all. Regardless of how you're connecting to it, always assume at all times that you're being monitored, all traffic logged, analyzed, sniffed at, and scrutinized, for one purpose or another, and that you're constantly under either direct (as in from live hackers) or indirect (as in from a 'bot or bot-net or hacked website) attack. Think of it this way: The Internet may or may not have AIDS, so you're taking a risk consorting with it.
Oh fuck off already. This whole subject is about people working at Google who did not sign up to work on weapons systems for the military leaving their jobs on ethical and moral grounds. They have EVERY RIGHT to do so and so far as I'm concerned they made the RIGHT decision, especially considering that the fake-ass garbage they're calling 'AI' these days will just fuck it up anyway and get innocent people killed in a drone strike. IDGAF about any of the rest of it.
Humans have to correct so-called 'AI' mistakes all the time. Remember that the so-called 'AI' we have now isn't much different from what we had in the late 90's.
At least with a human making a mistake, there's someone to hold responsible, and someone to have a real conversation with. The real danger from the so-called 'AI' everyone is so hot about lately is that they'll be fooled into trusting it too much because 'it's a machine and machines don't make mistakes' -- until they make a big fat glaring mistake, which in this case means someone gets killed who doesn't deserve it.
And for what it's worth lower middle class and poor are often enough lower middle class and poor because they're targeted by the police, the criminal judicial system, put into prison, then when they get out and have a criminal record, are excluded from opportunities that might allow them to elevate themselves out of being lower-middle-class or poor.
Well I guess if you have no principles or moral compass to begin with, then it's probably not possible for you to understand someone who does. Are you a sociopath?
Indeed what they were supporting before was vastly more harmful to more people than any weapon system.
I'd strongly dispute that. While I am a strong advocate for privacy rights, having Google scrape your personal data doens't make you bleed out or lose limbs. I find your argument to be invalid.
Every week there is at least one report like this one of a data breach of electronic payment systems -- which is why I've been paying cash for everything I do in-person for more than a year now, to reduce the chances of getting my banking information stolen in one of these breaches.
Nervous Nellies, Doomsayers, and Chicken-Littles need not comment; I don't care about all your pants-peeing nightmare scenarios about some masked stranger robbing me, heard it all before, literally don't give a fuck, don't waste your time. Similarly, I don't need or want anyone's 'advice' on how to 'keep myself safe' while still using plastic. I'm perfectly happy doing things the way I'm doing them.
The day that they actually manage to properly secure electronic payment systems to the point where breaches are rare or never happen will be the day I re-think my cash-only policy. Until that day comes this is so far as I'm concerned the best way to prevent being compromised in a payment system breach, and I furthermore encourage others to adopt a cash-whenever-possible policy themselves.
Fact of the matter is, that's how people on average react, and that's who he's referring to. You're probably upper-middle-class with an education, can see past the end of your own nose, and have upper-middle-class friends, who likewise have an education and can see past the end of their own noses; the 'average' person is not you or your friends, the 'average' person doesn't think enough moves ahead to really consider what the long-term effects of anything is, and they think with their emotions more often than not and not their intellect, so you get knee-jerk reactions to 'criminals' ("lock 'em up for good!"). Sad but true.
I'd also like to say that I too have thought that the entire healthcare and pharmaceutical industry should be not-for-profit by law in the U.S., to prevent profiteering at the expense of peoples' continued existence. Take someone like the infamous 'Pharma-Bro' and make him pay $100 a gallon for drinking water and see if he gets the point.
In your headlong rush into you forgot to mention that it's the blacks and latinos and brown people (you know the words the usually use to refer to them, of course; I won't use them here even to make a point) and other undesirables who are all criminals according to Some People, and therefore they should all be rounded and put into 'prison' (read as: work camps, or perhaps plantations, if you prefer a more traditional reference). It's a distortion and warping of our legal system and the founding principles of this Country.
This AC pretty much covered it; isolating people in the violent and abnormal environment of a prison is just going to de-humanize them even more, cause them to deviate farther and farther from what we consider 'normal', and of course that sort of conditioning isn't going to rehabilitate anyone. The point of emprisonment for committing crimes may be punishment, but in the case of extended incarceration it needs to also be rehabilitation to turn these people's lives around so they're not resorting to crime again. Otherwise we may as well just shove them all into a woodchipper and make mulch out of them, it'd be less cruel to them and less cruel to the rest of society. I exaggerate of course but I think I've made my point.
Allow me to explain this to those of you who don't get it: These people are 'quitting in protest' because they didn't sign up to work on weapons of war, and they have every right to quit over this because otherwise they're not living according to their own conscience. Having worked in the defense industry (by the way, what we worked on was training systems, not weapons systems; what we developed helped keep soldiers safe) it's far from the first time someone has made a decision like this, and in fact people who have objections to contributing to the development of deadly weapons of war very often make this clear when they're interviewing for a job. These people clearly did not forsee this and are now acting accordingly and do not deserve to be criticized for that.
..oh, and by the way: It's inevitable that the so-called 'AI' (inaptly named; is really not much more than 'pseudo-intelligence' at best) will make mistakes, and those mistakes will likely mean non-combatants becoming collateral damage. That's at the core of why they're quitting, and I for one don't blame them one bit.
Thye don't want their work being used for weapons systems, that's not what they signed up for, and their moral compass dictates that leaving is the right move. Are you actually claiming that they should be punished for not living according to their own conscience, that their employer or the government should have the right to force them to do work that goes against their own conscience? If so then how un-American of you.
..oh, and never mind the fact that these so-called 'AIs' (which are pseudo-intelligent at best, not real Artificial Intelligence) will inevitably make mistakes, which will lead to non-combatants being targeted and killed. That's at the core of why these people are 'quitting in protest', and that's why people make a moral choice to not work on weapons of war.
Yeah, and once Facebook crumbles : where are you going to run to ?
I'll do the same thing I'm doing right now: sitting back with a beer and some popcorn, watching all the fools who participate in so-called 'social media' make worse fools of themselves, flitting here and there like dry leaves in the wind to whatever the next 'social media sensation' is. So they can be exploited some more, getting nothing of value in return. It's great entertainment in a schadenfreude sort of way, but also very, very sad.
We won't have real, self-aware, conscious, truly sentient and cognitive Artifician Intelligence anytime soon, because we still have no idea how the human brain (or any brain for that matter) achieves these phenomena. Until we can know that, we CANNOT build machines that are capable of the same -- just low-quality fakes, 'pseudo-intelligence' at best. Therefore you cannot 'predict' any such thing.
What's next? Facebook housing? Zuckerberg buys an island (or a small country somewhere), renames it "Zuckerbergland" or "Facebookland" or something, and everything there is Facebook owned and Facebook branded? Cameras and microphones everywhere, including in your bedroom and bathroom, so everything you do 24/7/365 is posted automatically on Facebook? Your entire life logged and tracked and sold to 'partner companies'? And, of course, Facebook money, in the form of cryptocurrency. Fuck that, fuck all that sideways with a rusty chainsaw. Facebook and Zuckerberg and the whole gods-be-damned mess needs to die and go away forever, and all of 'social media' with it. It's a CANCER infecting our entire species.
Transactions with financial institutions or consumer to consumer non-business transactions will not be affected.
..and if you were going to a car dealership to purchase a new vehicle outright (no financing) you'd be nuts to walk around with $30-40-50k (or more) in a suitcase. I can't imagine anyone would even accept that much cash. You'd get a certified check (or equiv. for Australia) to pay them with -- and they'd verify it with the bank before giving you the keys.
Really I see what you were concerned about: Australia comes off as rather authoritarian in the extreme.
..okay, but this isn't the 1980's anymore, this is 2018, hybrid, electric, and high efficiency ICE vehicles are what there is now, and that's driving people using less fuel, which means less tax revenue, which means less money for highway maintenance, which means raising fuel taxes. Put a penny on your tonearm, you're skipping.
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All their trolling and stalking accounts have been deleted, oh noes! xD xD xD
You're either mistaken or English isn't your primary language and you're confused; it's your mom that brings me beer for my lunch. xD
Second the motion on Thunderbird. Perfectly happy with it. Reminds me a bit of Pegasus back in the Win3/MSDOS days.
Monetization, monetization everywhere!
..of course, is anyone really finding this to be a revelation? xD
Trust your VPN, not your ISP.
LOL no, you can't trust your VPN either.
At current, you can't trust the Internet at all. Regardless of how you're connecting to it, always assume at all times that you're being monitored, all traffic logged, analyzed, sniffed at, and scrutinized, for one purpose or another, and that you're constantly under either direct (as in from live hackers) or indirect (as in from a 'bot or bot-net or hacked website) attack. Think of it this way: The Internet may or may not have AIDS, so you're taking a risk consorting with it.
Fuck off.
Oh fuck off already. This whole subject is about people working at Google who did not sign up to work on weapons systems for the military leaving their jobs on ethical and moral grounds. They have EVERY RIGHT to do so and so far as I'm concerned they made the RIGHT decision, especially considering that the fake-ass garbage they're calling 'AI' these days will just fuck it up anyway and get innocent people killed in a drone strike. IDGAF about any of the rest of it.
Humans have to correct so-called 'AI' mistakes all the time. Remember that the so-called 'AI' we have now isn't much different from what we had in the late 90's.
At least with a human making a mistake, there's someone to hold responsible, and someone to have a real conversation with. The real danger from the so-called 'AI' everyone is so hot about lately is that they'll be fooled into trusting it too much because 'it's a machine and machines don't make mistakes' -- until they make a big fat glaring mistake, which in this case means someone gets killed who doesn't deserve it.
And for what it's worth lower middle class and poor are often enough lower middle class and poor because they're targeted by the police, the criminal judicial system, put into prison, then when they get out and have a criminal record, are excluded from opportunities that might allow them to elevate themselves out of being lower-middle-class or poor.
Well I guess if you have no principles or moral compass to begin with, then it's probably not possible for you to understand someone who does. Are you a sociopath?
Indeed what they were supporting before was vastly more harmful to more people than any weapon system.
I'd strongly dispute that. While I am a strong advocate for privacy rights, having Google scrape your personal data doens't make you bleed out or lose limbs. I find your argument to be invalid.
Every week there is at least one report like this one of a data breach of electronic payment systems -- which is why I've been paying cash for everything I do in-person for more than a year now, to reduce the chances of getting my banking information stolen in one of these breaches.
Nervous Nellies, Doomsayers, and Chicken-Littles need not comment; I don't care about all your pants-peeing nightmare scenarios about some masked stranger robbing me, heard it all before, literally don't give a fuck, don't waste your time. Similarly, I don't need or want anyone's 'advice' on how to 'keep myself safe' while still using plastic. I'm perfectly happy doing things the way I'm doing them.
The day that they actually manage to properly secure electronic payment systems to the point where breaches are rare or never happen will be the day I re-think my cash-only policy. Until that day comes this is so far as I'm concerned the best way to prevent being compromised in a payment system breach, and I furthermore encourage others to adopt a cash-whenever-possible policy themselves.
Fact of the matter is, that's how people on average react, and that's who he's referring to. You're probably upper-middle-class with an education, can see past the end of your own nose, and have upper-middle-class friends, who likewise have an education and can see past the end of their own noses; the 'average' person is not you or your friends, the 'average' person doesn't think enough moves ahead to really consider what the long-term effects of anything is, and they think with their emotions more often than not and not their intellect, so you get knee-jerk reactions to 'criminals' ("lock 'em up for good!"). Sad but true.
I'd also like to say that I too have thought that the entire healthcare and pharmaceutical industry should be not-for-profit by law in the U.S., to prevent profiteering at the expense of peoples' continued existence. Take someone like the infamous 'Pharma-Bro' and make him pay $100 a gallon for drinking water and see if he gets the point.
In your headlong rush into you forgot to mention that it's the blacks and latinos and brown people (you know the words the usually use to refer to them, of course; I won't use them here even to make a point) and other undesirables who are all criminals according to Some People, and therefore they should all be rounded and put into 'prison' (read as: work camps, or perhaps plantations, if you prefer a more traditional reference). It's a distortion and warping of our legal system and the founding principles of this Country.
Hear, hear. For-profit prisons are about as dystopian as you can get, approaching the level of some Hell-dimension. Needs to be abolished.
This AC pretty much covered it; isolating people in the violent and abnormal environment of a prison is just going to de-humanize them even more, cause them to deviate farther and farther from what we consider 'normal', and of course that sort of conditioning isn't going to rehabilitate anyone. The point of emprisonment for committing crimes may be punishment, but in the case of extended incarceration it needs to also be rehabilitation to turn these people's lives around so they're not resorting to crime again. Otherwise we may as well just shove them all into a woodchipper and make mulch out of them, it'd be less cruel to them and less cruel to the rest of society. I exaggerate of course but I think I've made my point.
Allow me to explain this to those of you who don't get it: These people are 'quitting in protest' because they didn't sign up to work on weapons of war, and they have every right to quit over this because otherwise they're not living according to their own conscience. Having worked in the defense industry (by the way, what we worked on was training systems, not weapons systems; what we developed helped keep soldiers safe) it's far from the first time someone has made a decision like this, and in fact people who have objections to contributing to the development of deadly weapons of war very often make this clear when they're interviewing for a job. These people clearly did not forsee this and are now acting accordingly and do not deserve to be criticized for that.
..oh, and by the way: It's inevitable that the so-called 'AI' (inaptly named; is really not much more than 'pseudo-intelligence' at best) will make mistakes, and those mistakes will likely mean non-combatants becoming collateral damage. That's at the core of why they're quitting, and I for one don't blame them one bit.
"Legitimate aims of government" indeed.
..oh, and never mind the fact that these so-called 'AIs' (which are pseudo-intelligent at best, not real Artificial Intelligence) will inevitably make mistakes, which will lead to non-combatants being targeted and killed. That's at the core of why these people are 'quitting in protest', and that's why people make a moral choice to not work on weapons of war.
Thye don't want their work being used for weapons systems, that's not what they signed up for, and their moral compass dictates that leaving is the right move. Are you actually claiming that they should be punished for not living according to their own conscience, that their employer or the government should have the right to force them to do work that goes against their own conscience? If so then how un-American of you.
Yeah, and once Facebook crumbles : where are you going to run to ?
I'll do the same thing I'm doing right now: sitting back with a beer and some popcorn, watching all the fools who participate in so-called 'social media' make worse fools of themselves, flitting here and there like dry leaves in the wind to whatever the next 'social media sensation' is. So they can be exploited some more, getting nothing of value in return. It's great entertainment in a schadenfreude sort of way, but also very, very sad.
We won't have real, self-aware, conscious, truly sentient and cognitive Artifician Intelligence anytime soon, because we still have no idea how the human brain (or any brain for that matter) achieves these phenomena. Until we can know that, we CANNOT build machines that are capable of the same -- just low-quality fakes, 'pseudo-intelligence' at best. Therefore you cannot 'predict' any such thing.
What's next? Facebook housing? Zuckerberg buys an island (or a small country somewhere), renames it "Zuckerbergland" or "Facebookland" or something, and everything there is Facebook owned and Facebook branded? Cameras and microphones everywhere, including in your bedroom and bathroom, so everything you do 24/7/365 is posted automatically on Facebook? Your entire life logged and tracked and sold to 'partner companies'? And, of course, Facebook money, in the form of cryptocurrency. Fuck that, fuck all that sideways with a rusty chainsaw. Facebook and Zuckerberg and the whole gods-be-damned mess needs to die and go away forever, and all of 'social media' with it. It's a CANCER infecting our entire species.
Transactions with financial institutions or consumer to consumer non-business transactions will not be affected.
..and if you were going to a car dealership to purchase a new vehicle outright (no financing) you'd be nuts to walk around with $30-40-50k (or more) in a suitcase. I can't imagine anyone would even accept that much cash. You'd get a certified check (or equiv. for Australia) to pay them with -- and they'd verify it with the bank before giving you the keys.
Really I see what you were concerned about: Australia comes off as rather authoritarian in the extreme.
..okay, but this isn't the 1980's anymore, this is 2018, hybrid, electric, and high efficiency ICE vehicles are what there is now, and that's driving people using less fuel, which means less tax revenue, which means less money for highway maintenance, which means raising fuel taxes. Put a penny on your tonearm, you're skipping.
Could it be that Congresscritters are finally starting to actually listen to their tech advisers? Is Hell freezing over?