Yes I did. SQLite has an even less restrictive license than postgresql. SQLite has no advertising clause. postgresql does.
but i was simply responding to OP's chest thumping about how php "ditched" mysql because the license was so evil. and his smug "but we all know the REAL reason they switched, wink wink nudge nudge" comment.
to OP, PHP moving to SQLite can't possibly be due to technical reasons -- it's due to ideological ones. so he's using it to justify his ideological switch to postgresql.
as you pointed out, his reasoning is bogus -- PHP moved to sqlite for technical reasons. the zero-config of SQLite being a major one. not even 5up4r-1337 postgresql can boast that.
if it was about licensing and the law then he should have picked sqlite like PHP did, instead of postgresql. the sqlite license is even less restrictive than postgresql's and so there's less risk.
PHP and others revolted and dumped MySQL for SQLite as the default database for PHP 5. Some could argue it was due to library mixup hell, with multiple versions of libraries on the system, but we all know the main reason was behind the license.
yeah, they picked SQLite because they had problems with MySQL and postgresql. I think it's very telling that they didn't pick postgresql.
have you tried mantis? yes, i'm plugging it. but i like it a lot. it has an excellent interface out of the box. it is also very snappy and responsive.
a lot of the bugzillas I use (redhat, gnu) are very creaky and slow -- dunno if that's due to bugzilla or just huge databases on underpowered hardware though. but the bugzilla interface on top of that just makes me go blah.
i agree. bugzilla is ugly and dated. it is functional, but in that kind of way that 3270 terminals hooked up to an ancient 1970s mainframe is "functional":-)
bugzilla is rather top heavy, and the interface is pretty cumbersome (and ugly as sin). i don't know if the servers are underpowered or if the database is just too large, but redhat and gnu's bugzillas are very creaky and slow.
bugzilla does work, it's relatively stable, but it's very bleah-inducing. sort of like the bugtracker of choice for curmudgeons:-)
for almost all projects i prefer mantis. it's much lighter and the interface is much more straightforward.
actually speaker for the dead is regularly criticized by osc fans ("nowhere near as good as ender's game","ender's game was classic", etc). if osc fans think speaker for the dead is a lesser story than ender's game, well... bleh.
and xenocide is usually called the weakest of the series.
oddly enough i might actually bother to watch ender's game as a movie if it ever gets made. not because it's a particularly great SF story, but because it will probably suck less than most other SF movies -- it's a pretty simple, straightforward story and should be hard to fuck up too badly. and if osc has the passion to force production values as high as serenity, well... it should make a decent movie.
i'd really rather see a niven or greg bear movie made though.
osc definitely knew his target audience -- angsty teens. i guess thats why so many people say they liked ender's game because they personally "identified" with ender as a kid.
as far as original, i disagree. osc exploited the fad of the time -- video games -- as a basis for his story. however, the fad was already old and tired by the time he got to it.
Ok, since you find 1) 2) and 3) "tiresome", I'll give you a fresh new angle you will find interesting.
"I thought ender's game was a pile of doggie poo and osc was a mediocre hack, many many many years before I ever found out any single thing about osc's ego or political or sociological or economic opinions or anything else about osc personally. i stopped reading osc after ender's game because osc fans promoted ender's game as the pinnacle of his work. if thats the best he can do then quite frankly everything else by him is a complete waste of my time. there are many great SF writers and SF stories, osc and ender's game are neither."
there. a completely brand new fresh approach for you to enjoy.
hugo and nebula winners simply indicate they were voted by the most fans. this does not mean they are a good story. popular authors may win awards on mediocre stories simply due to their name alone.
"ringworld" won a hugo, though it was really not a very good niven story. but niven's name helped carry the award. the competition at the time was also not terribly strong.
a hugo does not mean a book is excellent and stands the test of time, only that it was the least suck for that year;)
fortunately i don't judge a book on its hugo, i judge a book by its contents.
As I stated before, I thought ender's game was incredibly shallow and unimpressive long, long, long before that "article" you refer to was ever published.
If you're implying the only reason I am criticizing ender's game is because of that article, you're dead wrong. Simple as that.
And FWIW I thought clarke's "3001" was a pile of doggie poo also. If something is shit, I call it like I see it. I'm so terribly sorry if that offends you, but shit is shit.
I care not if OSC is a blathering idiot, but a good writer he most definitely is not -- regardless of his political/economic/sociological leanings.
ender's game won awards, big deal. those were dry years and slim pickings. ender's game was the least shit of the piles of shit at the time. but it still doesn't mean ender's game isn't shit.
I took enough lisp in CS to determine it's a language for people like you who see the world in black and white, where all the world is a nail and lisp is the hammer.
Your appeal "you're unqualified to criticize lisp until you really 'know' it" is like how christians assert you can't criticize christianity until you really "know" jesus.
ringworld wasn't all that good either imo (but it was better than enders game). there are other known space novels which are far better. not to mention to really "get" ringworld you need a good background of known space and all the races.
better yet, make the mini-stories in 'neutron star' into a miniseries. each chapter being an episode. that would rock.
Slashdot Mirror
just because you don't consider it a risk doesn't mean someone else might not. some business models depend on misrepresenting the origin of code :)
Yes I did. SQLite has an even less restrictive license than postgresql. SQLite has no advertising clause. postgresql does.
but i was simply responding to OP's chest thumping about how php "ditched" mysql because the license was so evil. and his smug "but we all know the REAL reason they switched, wink wink nudge nudge" comment.
to OP, PHP moving to SQLite can't possibly be due to technical reasons -- it's due to ideological ones. so he's using it to justify his ideological switch to postgresql.
as you pointed out, his reasoning is bogus -- PHP moved to sqlite for technical reasons. the zero-config of SQLite being a major one. not even 5up4r-1337 postgresql can boast that.
if it was about licensing and the law then he should have picked sqlite like PHP did, instead of postgresql. the sqlite license is even less restrictive than postgresql's and so there's less risk.
PHP and others revolted and dumped MySQL for SQLite as the default database for PHP 5. Some could argue it was due to library mixup hell, with multiple versions of libraries on the system, but we all know the main reason was behind the license.
yeah, they picked SQLite because they had problems with MySQL and postgresql. I think it's very telling that they didn't pick postgresql.
have you tried mantis? yes, i'm plugging it. but i like it a lot. it has an excellent interface out of the box. it is also very snappy and responsive.
a lot of the bugzillas I use (redhat, gnu) are very creaky and slow -- dunno if that's due to bugzilla or just huge databases on underpowered hardware though. but the bugzilla interface on top of that just makes me go blah.
i agree. bugzilla is ugly and dated. it is functional, but in that kind of way that 3270 terminals hooked up to an ancient 1970s mainframe is "functional" :-)
sounds like you might want to look at mantis.
i agree with you. bugzilla is functional, but it is ugly as sin. it kinda screams "this application was made for ncsa mosaic".
sounds like you should try mantis.
Yeah but when the 80s look came back, I found the ripped jeans I wore when I was 12 no longer fit :-(
bugzilla is rather top heavy, and the interface is pretty cumbersome (and ugly as sin). i don't know if the servers are underpowered or if the database is just too large, but redhat and gnu's bugzillas are very creaky and slow.
:-)
bugzilla does work, it's relatively stable, but it's very bleah-inducing. sort of like the bugtracker of choice for curmudgeons
for almost all projects i prefer mantis. it's much lighter and the interface is much more straightforward.
so basically your decision was a religious one and absolutely not an engineering one. nice.
actually speaker for the dead is regularly criticized by osc fans ("nowhere near as good as ender's game","ender's game was classic", etc). if osc fans think speaker for the dead is a lesser story than ender's game, well... bleh.
and xenocide is usually called the weakest of the series.
oddly enough i might actually bother to watch ender's game as a movie if it ever gets made. not because it's a particularly great SF story, but because it will probably suck less than most other SF movies -- it's a pretty simple, straightforward story and should be hard to fuck up too badly. and if osc has the passion to force production values as high as serenity, well... it should make a decent movie.
i'd really rather see a niven or greg bear movie made though.
osc definitely knew his target audience -- angsty teens. i guess thats why so many people say they liked ender's game because they personally "identified" with ender as a kid.
as far as original, i disagree. osc exploited the fad of the time -- video games -- as a basis for his story. however, the fad was already old and tired by the time he got to it.
Ok, since you find 1) 2) and 3) "tiresome", I'll give you a fresh new angle you will find interesting.
"I thought ender's game was a pile of doggie poo and osc was a mediocre hack, many many many years before I ever found out any single thing about osc's ego or political or sociological or economic opinions or anything else about osc personally. i stopped reading osc after ender's game because osc fans promoted ender's game as the pinnacle of his work. if thats the best he can do then quite frankly everything else by him is a complete waste of my time. there are many great SF writers and SF stories, osc and ender's game are neither."
there. a completely brand new fresh approach for you to enjoy.
thanks for stopping, you were getting rather tiresome.
why don't you try writing some applications in lisp before you whine about other people's criticisms of the language.
hugo and nebula winners simply indicate they were voted by the most fans. this does not mean they are a good story. popular authors may win awards on mediocre stories simply due to their name alone.
;)
"ringworld" won a hugo, though it was really not a very good niven story. but niven's name helped carry the award. the competition at the time was also not terribly strong.
a hugo does not mean a book is excellent and stands the test of time, only that it was the least suck for that year
fortunately i don't judge a book on its hugo, i judge a book by its contents.
osc apologists hail ender's game s _the_ pinnacle of osc's works. if that's the best he can do then quite frankly i'm not interested in the rest.
hugos and nebulas are as meaningful as grammys. just because britney spears won a grammy doesn't mean she isn't shit.
hugos are like emmys. they mean fuck all.
britney spears won a grammy, does that somehow mean she's not shit?
but you go keep on quoting wikipedia since it makes you feel better.
As I stated before, I thought ender's game was incredibly shallow and unimpressive long, long, long before that "article" you refer to was ever published.
If you're implying the only reason I am criticizing ender's game is because of that article, you're dead wrong. Simple as that.
And FWIW I thought clarke's "3001" was a pile of doggie poo also. If something is shit, I call it like I see it. I'm so terribly sorry if that offends you, but shit is shit.
I care not if OSC is a blathering idiot, but a good writer he most definitely is not -- regardless of his political/economic/sociological leanings.
ender's game won awards, big deal. those were dry years and slim pickings. ender's game was the least shit of the piles of shit at the time. but it still doesn't mean ender's game isn't shit.
I took enough lisp in CS to determine it's a language for people like you who see the world in black and white, where all the world is a nail and lisp is the hammer.
Your appeal "you're unqualified to criticize lisp until you really 'know' it" is like how christians assert you can't criticize christianity until you really "know" jesus.
i didn't particularly like ringworld. it's one of the weakest known space novels imo.
the other known space novels are pretty good. the collection of stories in neutron star is almost completely devoid of sex, so you're safe there.
ringworld wasn't all that good either imo (but it was better than enders game). there are other known space novels which are far better. not to mention to really "get" ringworld you need a good background of known space and all the races.
better yet, make the mini-stories in 'neutron star' into a miniseries. each chapter being an episode. that would rock.
soft updates sounds exactly like what reiserfs does.
ok, so he won hugo and nebula awards. must have been dry years.
the wizard
"i love ender's game. it's so bad "