"Was it perhaps because your belief in their goodness and rightness is not very strong?
"
I do not think they are "right and good".
I believe government should keep its hands as far removed as possible and that includes subsidies as well as excessive regulations.
Subsidies are natural consequence of excessive regulations. You cannot have one without the other.
"industry were allowed to pollute unchecked. That might be good for industry, but would not be good for society.?"
So you think that lumber industry would simply go rampart and completely destroy its own source of revenue?
You think they are that stupid and bunch of government officials that smart and caring?
Whatever...
Semantics aside, do you see people migrating in large numbers FROM the countries with huge private ( or corporate) enterprise or is it the other way around ?
"No, government is supposed to support growth of society. Despite whatever corporatist BS you've swallowed, SOCIETY INDUSTRY."
Please, show me strong, healthy and rich society WITHOUT correspondingly strong and rich industry?
"You seem unable to make up your mind on this point.
"
These kinds of subsidies are common all over the world, especially for industries considered vital.
On the other hand, considering fact that greater part of the price of fuel is cost of tax then this subsidy does not look so innocent anymore.
Oh really, so now we are required to follow certain interpretation of the history...
Please, whatever you learn in your history schoolbooks was written by the victors and surely reflects their biases. Trying to deny or even prosecute any other view does not make it more believable.
Yeah, it was on request of the people. It was not government sponsored like it was in Nazi Germany.
People genuinely thought blacks were not as worthy as white people.
"but no person should be able to steal $5-10-200 million while people starve all over the world"
Please...
Being smarter or more able does not equal stealing.
US is as powerful and rich as it is , precisely because it does not impose artificial limits ( or imposes less of them) on how much individual can earn as long as he/she operates within limits set by our law.
How do you determine how much is enough ?
Who is to set that limit ? You ?
"I will not end the struggle until the world is as i wish - I may be wrong in some respects, but I am principled."
Why do you assume it is laziness and complacency on my part ?
Maybe , for the most part, I do think that current US system is pretty much what I want...
"It is easily provable that the present 'free-market Capitalist system is failing to deliver the goals of the majority"
It might be so but I will join your fight as soon as you provide me with something provably better.
No, it is not enough to demand equality and fair share for everyone.
It would be hard to find any sort of revolution that did not include calls like that.
Most of them were terrible mistakes costing millions of lives and introducing even greater misery and chaos.
"There is no reason to let 99% of your country to suffer while a few become increasingly powerful and wealthy."
That is simply untrue.
You know, I was not born here, I came to this country (from Europe) about 10 years ago and I can tell you that what you call misery is a joke.
I am yet to see true misery in this country.
To summarize, US system might not be perfect one but I am yet to see anything better...
Yeah, right.
Just last week they released data which shows that unemployment is around 4.9 which is what it was in 1997.
You are talking out of your ass... AA ass.
If it weren't for that war , your stupid ass would end up paying $5 per gallon.
Of course, then you would bitch about these "greedy" republicans and their oil industry even more.
Systemic? Are you nuts? It was popular racism, perpetrated by the very people you want to fight for, not some governmental agency.
Get your facts straight.
"Join them. Support them. Defend their ideals "
These people are against "something" without offering any alternatives whatsoever.
This is anarchy or at least immaturity at its best.
Why would I join people like that?
"were effectual regulation that prevented"
These sorts of regulations and increased intrusion of the government into our lives will be our downfall, not corporations.
"and 'open-ness' can really be at the fore-front of this modern delusion. "
No, it is you who is delusional.
Every looked at this whole "mess" from that angle ?
"and proves that they're at least as good at running a bureaucracy as a government is, and even better at making sure as few benefits as possible get to the people who pay for them. "
That is why countries with majority GDP generated by private enterprises generally do much worse than government-controlled economies...
Yeah, right...
"Ever noticed how the Win9x series is full of 16-bit user interface code"
Windows95 design team had clear objectives:
1. We need OS with protected memory etc...
2. It MUST run 99% apps from Win 3.11
The only way to accomplish that was to retain tons of old 16 bit code and wrap it around with 32 bit stuff. Windows 95 is actually one of the most amazing pieces of software ever written.
Consider the fact that average RH has problem running most apps written mere year before that particular version was released.
"Or how only half of the NT kernel objects are supported under Win9x"
That is genuinely MS fault. They had communication problems between NT and Win 95 teams.
These are not layers.
MS has tendency of introducing new calls like CreateWindowEx etc...
It makes system DLLs bigger but does not affect performance like layering system does.
"this process makes their applications harder to automate except if you use their tools (wscript, Win API, ASDI, etc.). "
That does not make much sense.
Any application is hard to automate unless you try to do it using methods provided by the developers of that application.
MS apps ( or should we say Windows apps) have amazing automation capabilities far beyond simple in/out available on Unix.
You just don't know enough about them.
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"Or course the roads have turned into an unintended subsidy to the trucking companies which allowed them to put the hurt on the railroads. "
Hell, if it were the other way around you would have people complainig about railroads killing trucking industry.
"Was it perhaps because your belief in their goodness and rightness is not very strong?
"
I do not think they are "right and good".
I believe government should keep its hands as far removed as possible and that includes subsidies as well as excessive regulations.
Subsidies are natural consequence of excessive regulations. You cannot have one without the other.
"industry were allowed to pollute unchecked. That might be good for industry, but would not be good for society.?"
So you think that lumber industry would simply go rampart and completely destroy its own source of revenue?
You think they are that stupid and bunch of government officials that smart and caring?
Whatever...
Semantics aside, do you see people migrating in large numbers FROM the countries with huge private ( or corporate) enterprise or is it the other way around ?
"No, government is supposed to support growth of society. Despite whatever corporatist BS you've swallowed, SOCIETY INDUSTRY."
Please, show me strong, healthy and rich society WITHOUT correspondingly strong and rich industry?
"You seem unable to make up your mind on this point.
"
These kinds of subsidies are common all over the world, especially for industries considered vital.
On the other hand, considering fact that greater part of the price of fuel is cost of tax then this subsidy does not look so innocent anymore.
Hell, that is what we need. ...
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Oh really, so now we are required to follow certain interpretation of the history ...
Please, whatever you learn in your history schoolbooks was written by the victors and surely reflects their biases. Trying to deny or even prosecute any other view does not make it more believable.
"Recent studies have suggested that the Standard of living is higher in Europe."
Conducted by UN using their own (biased toward socialized economy) set of criteria.
What is wrong with government supporting growth of the industry?
Isn't that what is all about ?
"it was certainly institutionalized "
...
...
...
Yeah, it was on request of the people. It was not government sponsored like it was in Nazi Germany.
People genuinely thought blacks were not as worthy as white people.
"but no person should be able to steal $5-10-200 million while people starve all over the world"
Please
Being smarter or more able does not equal stealing.
US is as powerful and rich as it is , precisely because it does not impose artificial limits ( or imposes less of them) on how much individual can earn as long as he/she operates within limits set by our law.
How do you determine how much is enough ?
Who is to set that limit ? You ?
"I will not end the struggle until the world is as i wish - I may be wrong in some respects, but I am principled."
Why do you assume it is laziness and complacency on my part ?
Maybe , for the most part, I do think that current US system is pretty much what I want
"It is easily provable that the present 'free-market Capitalist system is failing to deliver the goals of the majority"
It might be so but I will join your fight as soon as you provide me with something provably better.
No, it is not enough to demand equality and fair share for everyone.
It would be hard to find any sort of revolution that did not include calls like that.
Most of them were terrible mistakes costing millions of lives and introducing even greater misery and chaos.
"There is no reason to let 99% of your country to suffer while a few become increasingly powerful and wealthy."
That is simply untrue.
You know, I was not born here, I came to this country (from Europe) about 10 years ago and I can tell you that what you call misery is a joke.
I am yet to see true misery in this country.
To summarize, US system might not be perfect one but I am yet to see anything better
"Unemployment is at a 30 year high."
... AA ass.
Yeah, right.
Just last week they released data which shows that unemployment is around 4.9 which is what it was in 1997.
You are talking out of your ass
"ould cost without the massive government subsidies currently being used to depress pump prices"
.. it simply costs more to live there.
And you are talking about what ?
Knowing that greater part of that $1.80 ends up in government hands (tax) I find your claim quite surprising.
"Maybe then alternative energy and mass transit wouldn't look like such a bad idea. "
Does it look as such a good idea in Europe?
Hardly,
What is wrong with denying the holocaust?
...
As long as it is done in the frame of questioning historical event then everything is ok.
After all, this is what historians do
You are not supposed to have fun in this place.
It is for your kids and if they do enjoy this place then who are you to argue ?
If it weren't for that war , your stupid ass would end up paying $5 per gallon.
Of course, then you would bitch about these "greedy" republicans and their oil industry even more.
" Now, they'll just get a slap on the wrist."
Great, I thought breakup order was completely unfair.
" Now, they'll just get a slap on the wrist."
Does everyone who doesn't share your views , is branded as a simpleton by you ?
"Oh well, better luck in 2004, guys."
Hehe. I sure hope so.
I will vote for Bush in 2004 as well.
Hopefully he won't have to deal with thieves like Gore and Daley anymore.
"aggression in Vietnam && systemic racism.. "
Systemic? Are you nuts? It was popular racism, perpetrated by the very people you want to fight for, not some governmental agency.
Get your facts straight.
"Join them. Support them. Defend their ideals "
These people are against "something" without offering any alternatives whatsoever.
This is anarchy or at least immaturity at its best.
Why would I join people like that?
"were effectual regulation that prevented"
These sorts of regulations and increased intrusion of the government into our lives will be our downfall, not corporations.
"and 'open-ness' can really be at the fore-front of this modern delusion. "
No, it is you who is delusional.
Every looked at this whole "mess" from that angle ?
He won fair and square.
Isn't that what democracy is all about ?
"and proves that they're at least as good at running a bureaucracy as a government is, and even better at making sure as few benefits as possible get to the people who pay for them. "
...
...
That is why countries with majority GDP generated by private enterprises generally do much worse than government-controlled economies
Yeah, right
"the whole apt-get packaging depends on continous feedback from informed users"
Or , to put it in other way, users unnecessarily burdened with completely irrelevant to the task at hand, issues.
"Ever noticed how the Win9x series is full of 16-bit user interface code"
...
Windows95 design team had clear objectives:
1. We need OS with protected memory etc
2. It MUST run 99% apps from Win 3.11
The only way to accomplish that was to retain tons of old 16 bit code and wrap it around with 32 bit stuff. Windows 95 is actually one of the most amazing pieces of software ever written.
Consider the fact that average RH has problem running most apps written mere year before that particular version was released.
"Or how only half of the NT kernel objects are supported under Win9x"
That is genuinely MS fault. They had communication problems between NT and Win 95 teams.
I know some people from India and they definately do not work for less.
In fact , it varies just like among natives.
These are not layers. ...
MS has tendency of introducing new calls like CreateWindowEx etc
It makes system DLLs bigger but does not affect performance like layering system does.
Long time ago they used to have pure Win Help file for all Win32 APIs with usefull index capabilities.
...
It was a thing of beauty
"this process makes their applications harder to automate except if you use their tools (wscript, Win API, ASDI, etc.). "
That does not make much sense.
Any application is hard to automate unless you try to do it using methods provided by the developers of that application.
MS apps ( or should we say Windows apps) have amazing automation capabilities far beyond simple in/out available on Unix.
You just don't know enough about them.
"You have a facist government!"
You don't know what the fuck are you talking about.
It is just a stupid proposal, hundreds of which are being discarded or voted down every year.