I find section 1201(a)(2)(A) to be pointless with regaurd to CSS.
If I use a compliant DVD player and play a DVD, then capture the out put in digital form. I could easily distrubute the digital recording. CSS would not stop me and I would have incurred only degradation related to one conversion to analog.
If the Judge Kaplan believes that DivX does not perceptably change the movie, I would suspect he would feel the same about this method. The DMCA would not come into play in this senario, but effective pirating would be accomplished, because of this I do not believe CSS is effective at all.
You do not have to crack CSS to pirate.
They are not using C or C++. They are using Python.
What changes would you make to the language to make a better build tool? Whether a language has a "good module based interface" has little to do with a good build tool. A build tool keep track of dependancy between modules and builds the modules that need to be built during developement. There are several good solutions to these problems, but I doubt that a change in the language will make any significant difference.
The COM/ActiveX problems are/were caused because Microsoft did not know what the hell they were doing. Look at CORBA for a better solution.
He said they got two machines. One worked fine and the other did not. The sent the one that did not work back. After two weeks they got the broken machine back, with parts missing.
He bought two machines. One worked and one did not. He sent the one that did not back to VA. Who kept the machine for two weeks and sent it back with parts missing. This has nothging to do with your example.
A more apt example would be. You buy a Ford vehicle and decide to put a delco battery in it. The vehicle will not start, so you take it to the Ford dealer and they return it to you with the alternator missing.
VA Linux had a responsibility to provide working hardware. They were not obligated to support Mandrake. They failed to provide working hardware.
You worked for an ISP that bought many boxes. Probably spent a large sum of money. VA wanted to keep you happy so they could sell more boxes. Like that is a surprise. I wonder if they would have answered your questions, if you were just an individual not working for an ISP.
You suggestion that the disto is what broke the hardware is silly.
Wrong analogy. In your analogy, putting jet fuel in a car would likely damage the car (jet fuel is very similar to diesel fuel). Putting a different disto on the hardware did not break it. The hardware was broken. He sent it in for repairs and it came back missing parts and still broken. VA screwed up. They should fix the hardware. In your anology, if "the shop" returned a car missing pieces, whether it had repaired anything or not, would have committed theft.....
Please think about things before you make a non-sensical comparison.
It appears he is having a hardware problem. It would not matter which distro it is if the hardware is broke.
You reply is indicative of the type of service that is often experienced today. "You did not do it our way. Screw You!" Hardly the kind of service that will get repeat customers.
Any one of the links between you and slashdot could be saturated and preventing you from speedy replies. I have on many occasition just let the browser spin on the link and eventually the page appears. You have made the supposition that everytime you can not access slashdot, that it is their fault. Sorry to tell you, but there is a lot of equipment between you and them. Any of which might be preventing you from accessing them.
DiVX is not the issue. It is CSS on DVDs and the DeCSS program written by Jon and company. I have seen no proof that the MPAA has produced to show and piracy related to DeCSS.
Where did you go to law school? I believe the whole point of the trial is to determine what if anything has been do wrong. Your supposition that Jon Jensenson has done something wrong, or that 2600 has done something wrong is based on what? Your opinion? Well, your opinion is not the one of importance here. The courts will decide and even they may be wrong, in which case the law may need to be changed.
mostly from maintenance contracts to support their software and hardware and equipment purchases. So, I suspect they are not so concerned as to whether they support Linux or AIX, just as long as they get those maintenance contracts.
Give me a break!! Apache was started and is primarily developed on *NIX boxen. IPv6 a standard that was first implemented on a *NIX box as part of the reference implementation for the IETF.
Linux maybe playing catch up for journaling file systems, but not *NIX as a whole. Does NT even have a journaling file system??? I think not.
You know very little about the reality of the developement of the technologies you mention.
The reason OOP does not deliver some imaged advantage in reuse is that most of the classes built are not well thought out. To build truely reusable classes one has to have the same expertise a good code librarian has. Most programmers have no training in building good libraries with the intent of reuse, so they don't do a good job. The same goes for class reuse, most have not been designed for reuse very well and so they are not reused.
Because it is all written in assembly. The entire microkernel is written in X86 assembly by hand. That is why it only runs on intel architecture.
If you write a OS with a small team in assembly, it can be very small. Witness Unix in it's first incarnation on a PDP11, before the rewrite in C.
As far as other graphical systems being significantly more effecient. Windows does not count, It is large a bloated. Millions of lines of code that are unstable. The Mac is better, but neither the Mac or Windows is network transparent. I personally like the fact that X is.
Please, give me a break. A cow raised for the purpose of becoming a meal is not tortured. Until there death they live well. I know because I was raised on a cattle farm. A cow is dispatched quickly (usually a blow to the head).
As far as regulating video games, why do you think that they should be regulated differently the violent film? It seems to me, if it contains the same kind of violence as a film, then it makes sense to regulate it just like a film.
Really, I could image a game based on a film that actually used the same scenes as the film.
I believe parents are ultimately responsible for the childrens viewing habit, but I see no contridiction in regulating video games the same as films.
This continued belief in the online community that somehow things on computer make them different than other media amazes me. Do you truely believe music distrubuted as MP3's is different than a CD? Should it be treated different in the law? Violent images in print or in movies is significantly different than violence in a video game?
Truely, this bifurcated view of the world is laughable. Violence is violence in print, in a movie, or in a video game.
This guy is like a cheap movie no "cyberspace". He talks like it is something more than information and organization. Check this out:
Cyberspace - Information and interface to make it useful for a user. Though today the web is rather unorganized.
Cybershere - Cyberspace
Cyberbody - Your own little Cyberspace
Swarm - Nonsensical blather
Life stream - a cyberspace arranged chronologically
Just out of curiousity, I wonder were executables are stored in a life stream.
He acts almost like he invented the idea of history. Asking what is left when the physical parts of it are destroyed.
3D scanners are not new, I have personally been at a demostration of one about 5 years ago. So, why doesn't everybody have one? They are expensive and complex to build.
I could continue, but I found little in the form of concrete solutions to any real problem. Mostly just a bunch of hand waving and using the word cyber a lot. Whoopy.
Your comments seem to have little of nothing to do with the article you quoted.
Irradiating food is a different topic the sanitation issues. The point of irradiating food is to reduce the number of live bacteria.
It in no way would make shit a healthy consumable. The fecal matter on chicken is a sanitation issue and should be controlled stingently. I suggest until that happens 1) Don't eat chicken or 2) wash the chicken before you use it. This of course wont help in the salimanila situation, but irradiating the chicken does.
... have been going bankrupt in the United States at an alarming rate. The small family farm is nearly extinct in the US, but we would still prosecute a vandal. Truely the economic fortunes of the a particular business do not give the practitioners of that business any additional rights. If you are running a business (farm) and it is not making money, then change your business. Pick a new crop or get out of farming, but don't go down the road and destroy the corporate farm or business.
The fact is that large scale farming in the US is more economically efficient. So, family farms must get bigger, find a new market (organic), or parish. This is the way our system works, as does the global economy.
None of this justifies violence. As soon as you begin to allow this, what stops you from saying individuals should use violence for other economically difficult situations? A new grocery opens and you find yourself (also a grocer) under new competition. Can you justify destroying the competition's propery? If it is owned by a multinational corp?
I don't think so. Bove' is just a vandal and should be treated as such.
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I find section 1201(a)(2)(A) to be pointless with regaurd to CSS.
If I use a compliant DVD player and play a DVD, then capture the out put in digital form. I could easily distrubute the digital recording. CSS would not stop me and I would have incurred only degradation related to one conversion to analog.
If the Judge Kaplan believes that DivX does not perceptably change the movie, I would suspect he would feel the same about this method. The DMCA would not come into play in this senario, but effective pirating would be accomplished, because of this I do not believe CSS is effective at all.
You do not have to crack CSS to pirate.
This whole case is annoying.
Troy
Your analogy is a good one. It is legal to publish information about picking locks. There are many books on the subject.
The rest of your comments are uninformed. Read the story; read the depositions; read the transcripts, then tell me they did not prove their case.
Troy
The "quiet period" is in relation to the companies finances, not its products.
This has been pointed out about a million times.....
MAPS and Harris are both in the US, so like US laws apply to them.
Pull you head out and look around.
Moron.
They are not using C or C++. They are using Python.
What changes would you make to the language to make a better build tool? Whether a language has a "good module based interface" has little to do with a good build tool. A build tool keep track of dependancy between modules and builds the modules that need to be built during developement. There are several good solutions to these problems, but I doubt that a change in the language will make any significant difference.
The COM/ActiveX problems are/were caused because Microsoft did not know what the hell they were doing. Look at CORBA for a better solution.
Troy
He said they got two machines. One worked fine and the other did not. The sent the one that did not work back. After two weeks they got the broken machine back, with parts missing.
Hardly, a distro problem.
troy
You seem to have made a few assumptions:
1. That VA sent a machine with no OS.
2. The distro was the problem.
He bought two machines. One worked and one did not. He sent the one that did not back to VA. Who kept the machine for two weeks and sent it back with parts missing. This has nothging to do with your example.
A more apt example would be. You buy a Ford vehicle and decide to put a delco battery in it. The vehicle will not start, so you take it to the Ford dealer and they return it to you with the alternator missing.
VA Linux had a responsibility to provide working hardware. They were not obligated to support Mandrake. They failed to provide working hardware.
Troy
You worked for an ISP that bought many boxes. Probably spent a large sum of money. VA wanted to keep you happy so they could sell more boxes. Like that is a surprise. I wonder if they would have answered your questions, if you were just an individual not working for an ISP.
You suggestion that the disto is what broke the hardware is silly.
Wrong analogy. In your analogy, putting jet fuel in a car would likely damage the car (jet fuel is very similar to diesel fuel). Putting a different disto on the hardware did not break it. The hardware was broken. He sent it in for repairs and it came back missing parts and still broken. VA screwed up. They should fix the hardware. In your anology, if "the shop" returned a car missing pieces, whether it had repaired anything or not, would have committed theft.....
Please think about things before you make a non-sensical comparison.
Troy
He is having a HARDWARE problem. He sent it back and when returned, part of the server was missing and it was still broke.
Sheese.....This has nothing to do with the distro.
Moron.
It appears he is having a hardware problem. It would not matter which distro it is if the hardware is broke.
You reply is indicative of the type of service that is often experienced today. "You did not do it our way. Screw You!" Hardly the kind of service that will get repeat customers.
Troy
COPA's purpose is to evaluate software for use in public situations.
Troy
already exist. If they had patented the algorithm, then the case would be much differant.
The CSS algorithm was a trade secret and as such has little protection under the law. That is why they are use attempting DMCAs provisions.
Any one of the links between you and slashdot could be saturated and preventing you from speedy replies. I have on many occasition just let the browser spin on the link and eventually the page appears. You have made the supposition that everytime you can not access slashdot, that it is their fault. Sorry to tell you, but there is a lot of equipment between you and them. Any of which might be preventing you from accessing them.
DiVX is not the issue. It is CSS on DVDs and the DeCSS program written by Jon and company. I have seen no proof that the MPAA has produced to show and piracy related to DeCSS.
Jon,
Where did you go to law school? I believe the whole point of the trial is to determine what if anything has been do wrong. Your supposition that Jon Jensenson has done something wrong, or that 2600 has done something wrong is based on what? Your opinion? Well, your opinion is not the one of importance here. The courts will decide and even they may be wrong, in which case the law may need to be changed.
mostly from maintenance contracts to support their software and hardware and equipment purchases. So, I suspect they are not so concerned as to whether they support Linux or AIX, just as long as they get those maintenance contracts.
Troy
Give me a break!! Apache was started and is primarily developed on *NIX boxen. IPv6 a standard that was first implemented on a *NIX box as part of the reference implementation for the IETF.
Linux maybe playing catch up for journaling file systems, but not *NIX as a whole. Does NT even have a journaling file system??? I think not.
You know very little about the reality of the developement of the technologies you mention.
Troy
The reason OOP does not deliver some imaged advantage in reuse is that most of the classes built are not well thought out. To build truely reusable classes one has to have the same expertise a good code librarian has. Most programmers have no training in building good libraries with the intent of reuse, so they don't do a good job. The same goes for class reuse, most have not been designed for reuse very well and so they are not reused.
Troy
Your little description at the end is all possible and already designed and implemented as part of CORBA.
Because it is all written in assembly. The entire microkernel is written in X86 assembly by hand. That is why it only runs on intel architecture.
If you write a OS with a small team in assembly, it can be very small. Witness Unix in it's first incarnation on a PDP11, before the rewrite in C.
As far as other graphical systems being significantly more effecient. Windows does not count, It is large a bloated. Millions of lines of code that are unstable. The Mac is better, but neither the Mac or Windows is network transparent. I personally like the fact that X is.
Troy
Please, give me a break. A cow raised for the purpose of becoming a meal is not tortured. Until there death they live well. I know because I was raised on a cattle farm. A cow is dispatched quickly (usually a blow to the head).
As far as regulating video games, why do you think that they should be regulated differently the violent film? It seems to me, if it contains the same kind of violence as a film, then it makes sense to regulate it just like a film.
Really, I could image a game based on a film that actually used the same scenes as the film.
I believe parents are ultimately responsible for the childrens viewing habit, but I see no contridiction in regulating video games the same as films.
This continued belief in the online community that somehow things on computer make them different than other media amazes me. Do you truely believe music distrubuted as MP3's is different than a CD? Should it be treated different in the law? Violent images in print or in movies is significantly different than violence in a video game?
Truely, this bifurcated view of the world is laughable. Violence is violence in print, in a movie, or in a video game.
Troy
This guy is like a cheap movie no "cyberspace". He talks like it is something more than information and organization. Check this out:
Cyberspace - Information and interface to make it useful for a user. Though today the web is rather unorganized.
Cybershere - Cyberspace
Cyberbody - Your own little Cyberspace
Swarm - Nonsensical blather
Life stream - a cyberspace arranged chronologically
Just out of curiousity, I wonder were executables are stored in a life stream.
He acts almost like he invented the idea of history. Asking what is left when the physical parts of it are destroyed.
3D scanners are not new, I have personally been at a demostration of one about 5 years ago. So, why doesn't everybody have one? They are expensive and complex to build.
I could continue, but I found little in the form of concrete solutions to any real problem. Mostly just a bunch of hand waving and using the word cyber a lot. Whoopy.
Troy
Your comments seem to have little of nothing to do with the article you quoted.
Irradiating food is a different topic the sanitation issues. The point of irradiating food is to reduce the number of live bacteria.
It in no way would make shit a healthy consumable. The fecal matter on chicken is a sanitation issue and should be controlled stingently. I suggest until that happens 1) Don't eat chicken or 2) wash the chicken before you use it. This of course wont help in the salimanila situation, but irradiating the chicken does.
Troy
... have been going bankrupt in the United States at an alarming rate. The small family farm is nearly extinct in the US, but we would still prosecute a vandal. Truely the economic fortunes of the a particular business do not give the practitioners of that business any additional rights. If you are running a business (farm) and it is not making money, then change your business. Pick a new crop or get out of farming, but don't go down the road and destroy the corporate farm or business.
The fact is that large scale farming in the US is more economically efficient. So, family farms must get bigger, find a new market (organic), or parish. This is the way our system works, as does the global economy.
None of this justifies violence. As soon as you begin to allow this, what stops you from saying individuals should use violence for other economically difficult situations? A new grocery opens and you find yourself (also a grocer) under new competition. Can you justify destroying the competition's propery? If it is owned by a multinational corp?
I don't think so. Bove' is just a vandal and should be treated as such.
Troy