Unfortuntely there seems to be two important errors in the paper leading to results being plainly wrong (uhm, hyped). There are: * inability to notice that dns server is visible under many different ips (thats very often the case in Europe, and that leaded to false assumption about average of 100 hosts used blah blah blah) * glue records attached to dns reply doesnot increase average of 100 hosts used blah blah
It's important, but far lesser than stated in paper.
it can't be refraction, because experiment with coin (or rolled paper or your thumb) wouldnt (if it was refraction) revert the effect. but this expermients instantly revert the big size.
You dont believe that refraction can be disabled by your thumb or coin, do You?;)
What about RedHat linking to Linux? Apache? and the whole bunch of other opensource apps. I see, they can do it, but we can not? Do we call it an equal treatment? i think not...
RedHat is now on my 'talk-badly-about-it-on-any-meeting' list.
Och, and please dont give me the shit 'they have right to earn money' etc. Information wants to be free, and either RedHat gets its money on support etc, or it should bite the dust. RedHat grew using opensource to the deep. prohibiting the opposite is just unfair.
shortly speaking: Yes it is, aside from all this pseudo-physics hype;)
long answer is: it depends, if its a preshared secret connection type (then its not vulnerable, but you HAVE to got ANOTHER(!), ESATBLISHED mean of negotiate this secret) or if its no (Diffie Helman for example, when IT IS VULNERABLE to MitM attack).
so in field of cryptography its rather weak result (need of preshared secret, or Youre MitM vulnerable). beeing that, rather than spending 50k $, I prefer the same (!!) level of security with ssh protocol 2.0.
he thinks that OC12 is enough for /. ;)
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From their forum: <BLOCKQUOTE> #7 - BOFH - Aug 7, 2003 00:52<BR> Eek... I think we're on an OC12, though, so we should be okay...:: prays:: I hope that b/w limit doesn't kick in </BLOCKQUOTE>
apache 2 supports prechild MPM:
"Multi-Processing Module allowing for daemon processes serving requests to be assigned a variety of different userids"
Here is link: perchild
It solves your uids permission part of a problem.
What You describe is called "lack of knowledge" and has _nothing_ to do with word viral ( btw its meaning you can check on dict.org, seriously). Does it enlighten you enough? if not, sorry, wrong addres, basic school is on the second floor;)
Anyway, analogy to cholera is completly wrong because GPL does NOT spread without your previous approval and concious act of using it (GPL software). More, you can simply reverse it without medical treatment, which afaik is propably necessary..;)
Its strange that nobody pointed it yet. For me, most distributions (except some, which I name later) are very bad at good and appropiate management of distro-based software _and_ user (administrator) add-ons _togheter_.
Lets look at RH (which I also use on other machines). You can have quite good desktop or server just out of the box. But power users always have other software which need to be installed by hand. from sources, from rpmfind.net, from custom build rpms - doesnt matter.
the hell starts at the moment, when admin wants to _seamless_ update _everything_ - I mean his own packages, and also distro packages. and this is the point where distros differs very much.
My personal winner here is Gentoo, where I can do 'emerge world' and BE SURE that everything will be correctly updated.
Of course, smart admin can achieve this with his homemade scripts on every distro, but its often risky, time consuming, non portable, need complicated knowledge etc. why the heck all this trouble? simple 'emerge world' should be enough;-)
I think that source based distros with SIMPLE but powerfull portage/package system are a big-winner here.
my suggestion: give it a try, you're gonna be suprised!
Article states that its not possible to listen to such coded transmission, and gives us an example why. its totaly bullshit. they based example on the fact that eaves dropper would retransmit the same photons after interception. phew. any wise guy would not retransmit it, but build a NEW photon chain between him and final recipient. So it would look like this: SENDER<--A-->HACKER<--B-->RECEIVER And A and B are different links. Hacker cannot replay A on B (due to physics), but nothing prevents him for respondig to SENDER (to establish A channel) and send NEW photons to RECEIVER to establish their NEW B channel.
This encryption scheme is nothing new. its cleary that it can be attack by Man In THe Middle method.
by setting source port of their packets to the UDP53 or TCP20, and/or penetrating target network for destination set at TCP113.
Whole thread is right, but please do not forget that smart 'hacker' will (and in fact _IS_) using this knowledge.
As well as http which is enabled (in->out) at _every_ place so very often tunel through -the-big-and-great-firewall is a matter of setting http-ip tunel at one http location...
the moral: do not throw the child with a bath (sth like that;-)
Do not forget that Japan is not USA. Ive never been there actually, but after reading some books Japan shows to me as a completly different country. Their whole lives passes under the motto: group is more important than You. It's completly normal for them, and thats the way they live!
BTw, does anybody know that life of typical (80..90% of female population) woman looks like this:
a. childhood
b. basic school
c. high school
d. about 2..4 year of some stupid job (for which You don't need almost any education)
e. marriage
f. end of work!
g. being housewife to the end of life!
while under g) relation between Her and Him, compared to USA/Europa ones are almost weird (at least for me).
What I'm saying is that Japan _is_ different so slashdot is for sure not the place to discuss this topic. get go to library and buy some books about Japan, or, better, go there for year or two.
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Unfortuntely there seems to be two important errors in the paper leading to results being plainly wrong (uhm, hyped). There are:
* inability to notice that dns server is visible under many different ips (thats very often the case in Europe, and that leaded to false assumption about average of 100 hosts used blah blah blah)
* glue records attached to dns reply doesnot increase average of 100 hosts used blah blah
It's important, but far lesser than stated in paper.
You're plain wrong, and sadly, You're Dad too :)
;)
it can't be refraction, because experiment with coin (or rolled paper or your thumb) wouldnt (if it was refraction) revert the effect. but this expermients instantly revert the big size.
You dont believe that refraction can be disabled by your thumb or coin, do You?
What about RedHat linking to Linux? Apache? and the whole bunch of other opensource apps. I see, they can do it, but we can not? Do we call it an equal treatment? i think not... RedHat is now on my 'talk-badly-about-it-on-any-meeting' list. Och, and please dont give me the shit 'they have right to earn money' etc. Information wants to be free, and either RedHat gets its money on support etc, or it should bite the dust. RedHat grew using opensource to the deep. prohibiting the opposite is just unfair.
shortly speaking: Yes it is, aside from all this pseudo-physics hype ;)
long answer is: it depends, if its a preshared secret connection type (then its not vulnerable, but you HAVE to got ANOTHER(!), ESATBLISHED mean of negotiate this secret) or if its no (Diffie Helman for example, when IT IS VULNERABLE to MitM attack).
so in field of cryptography its rather weak result (need of preshared secret, or Youre MitM vulnerable). beeing that, rather than spending 50k $, I prefer the same (!!) level of security with ssh protocol 2.0.
From their forum: :: prays :: I hope that b/w limit doesn't kick in
<BLOCKQUOTE>
#7 - BOFH - Aug 7, 2003 00:52<BR>
Eek... I think we're on an OC12, though, so we should be okay...
</BLOCKQUOTE>
apache 2 supports prechild MPM: "Multi-Processing Module allowing for daemon processes serving requests to be assigned a variety of different userids" Here is link: perchild It solves your uids permission part of a problem.
glad to hear that you finally agreed that cholera analogy was wrong.
As to so called viral aspect, was corectly pointed, that:
List l = new LGPLList(); is illegal
List l = (List) Class.forName("org.gnu.LGPLList").ewINstance(); is ok.
anything left? no? glad to hear. EOT from me.
Yes it did in fact.
;)
;)
What You describe is called "lack of knowledge" and has _nothing_ to do with word viral ( btw its meaning you can check on dict.org, seriously). Does it enlighten you enough? if not, sorry, wrong addres, basic school is on the second floor
Anyway, analogy to cholera is completly wrong because GPL does NOT spread without your previous approval and concious act of using it (GPL software). More, you can simply reverse it without medical treatment, which afaik is propably necessary..
Score 5? Insightful? Whats the #$(*#$(#*$
ANalogy to cholera is completly misguided. Because You can not "catch GPL" without your actions (using code). While you can catch cholera without it.
So again and again, until you get it...
Its strange that nobody pointed it yet.
;-)
For me, most distributions (except some, which I name later) are very bad at good and appropiate management of distro-based software _and_ user (administrator) add-ons _togheter_.
Lets look at RH (which I also use on other machines). You can have quite good desktop or server just out of the box. But power users always have other software which need to be installed by hand. from sources, from rpmfind.net, from custom build rpms - doesnt matter.
the hell starts at the moment, when admin wants to _seamless_ update _everything_ - I mean his own packages, and also distro packages. and this is the point where distros differs very much.
My personal winner here is Gentoo, where I can do 'emerge world' and BE SURE that everything will be correctly updated.
Of course, smart admin can achieve this with his homemade scripts on every distro, but its often risky, time consuming, non portable, need complicated knowledge etc. why the heck all this trouble? simple 'emerge world' should be enough
I think that source based distros with SIMPLE but powerfull portage/package system are a big-winner here.
my suggestion: give it a try, you're gonna be suprised!
Article states that its not possible to listen to such coded transmission, and gives us an example why. its totaly bullshit. they based example on the fact that eaves dropper would retransmit the same photons after interception. phew. any wise guy would not retransmit it, but build a NEW photon chain between him and final recipient. So it would look like this:
SENDER<--A-->HACKER<--B-->RECEIVER
And A and B are different links. Hacker cannot replay A on B (due to physics), but nothing prevents him for respondig to SENDER (to establish A channel) and send NEW photons to RECEIVER to establish their NEW B channel.
This encryption scheme is nothing new. its cleary that it can be attack by Man In THe Middle method.
by setting source port of their packets to the UDP53 or TCP20, and/or penetrating target network for destination set at TCP113.
;-)
Whole thread is right, but please do not forget that smart 'hacker' will (and in fact _IS_) using this knowledge.
As well as http which is enabled (in->out) at _every_ place so very often tunel through -the-big-and-great-firewall is a matter of setting http-ip tunel at one http location...
the moral: do not throw the child with a bath (sth like that
Do not forget that Japan is not USA. Ive never been there actually, but after reading some books Japan shows to me as a completly different country. Their whole lives passes under the motto: group is more important than You. It's completly normal for them, and thats the way they live!
BTw, does anybody know that life of typical (80..90% of female population) woman looks like this:
a. childhood
b. basic school
c. high school
d. about 2..4 year of some stupid job (for which You don't need almost any education)
e. marriage
f. end of work!
g. being housewife to the end of life!
while under g) relation between Her and Him, compared to USA/Europa ones are almost weird (at least for me).
What I'm saying is that Japan _is_ different so slashdot is for sure not the place to discuss this topic. get go to library and buy some books about Japan, or, better, go there for year or two.