The self defence point is a good one. I wonder if it would change the legality of it depending on how its executed. If you were to set up a script that would clean any machine that asked for default.ida off yours, then is it still illegal? You're not going out and actively searching for and patching servers, you're just hosting a file on your webserver, and if someone else requests that file from you, then its their problem what happens as a result. This passive approach just might be legal. This is all gross assumption however, since IANAL.
IKE, for instance (the key exchange mechanism used by the IPsec security protocol) has also been pronounced "bad" and is going to be replaced or modified.
Well I can see how that would happen. They think they're starting to get to know Jenny, then all of a sudden, they realize it wasn't really Jenny at all...
I think the only advertising on the net that has ever really caught my attention is Thinkgeek. Why? Because they sell products that interest me. Simple as that.
Consider too for a second the difference between a little banner for Thinkgeek at the top of Slashdot to a pop-up spycam ad. The banner sits up there all the time, unobtrusively, but yet still eye-catching. The pop-up ads however, I can't close fast enough, and once closed their gone. I never actually look at those ads save to gawk at the hot girl for a couple seconds. And if I do catch the name or logo of the company reponsible it just incites an ire in me for them. Now which do you think is more effective?
The same goes for radio ads. The ones that make me laugh or think or enjoy them in some way create a happy image of that company in my mind. On the other hand, the crappy, overplayed ads cause me great irritation. I usually end up switching stations if one comes on, and have been tempted to call the radio station and tell them to stop playing those horrible ads or they'll lose more listenership like myself.
I think that the old theory of getting a company's name into the heads of the masses at all costs is severely flawed. People make associations with those names which can later affect them. How many people say to themselves "Hmm... I need a long distance carrier... AT&T keeps phoning me and pestering me during supper, I think I'll go with them"? Compare that to how many people are pleasantly surprised when the telemarketer from X company actually respects your response of "I'm not interested". The latter company establishes a good image in the consumer's mind, and will be more likely to get their business down the road.
How could you have a free Linux party without free beer? Or is this just another attempt to get people to understand what the "free" in Free Software really means?
At the very least, the existence of Ogg Vorbis means that Fraunhoffer will have to behave. If they tried to control mp3s more they'd be shooting themselves in the foot with another, better, codec trying to break through.
Creating an Apache script that patches any infected hosts would be pretty cool, but I'll be impressed when someone writes a script that installs Linux/Apache on infected hosts.
Ironic that you should refer to Apple users as the "lunatic fringe" when just the other day I saw a commercial for WindowsXP with the song Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider playing in the background while this guy at a desk is blasting across the salt flats a la recent Maxima commercials (which I love to watch).
That's really hard to say, because a new "version", if you can call it that, is released every night. Larger releases are released once every couple months (such as 0.9.2, 0.9.3 etc.) I remember back to when versions were listed by Milestone releases (I think the first one I used was M17), although I guess every 0.0.1 gain is still considered another milestone.
So to answer your question, I guess you could count milestones and apply v1, v2 etc to each one. Unfortunately I don't actually know how many milestones have been hit. I think M18 was the last one labelled like that, before we got into 0.8.x, but I'm just going from vague memory.
I think the key to remember though is that Mozilla is constantly improving, with new, slightly improved builds being released several times a day. I'm currently runnning build 2001062815 (old, I know) which was the 15th build of June 28th, the date that 0.9.2 was release, I believe.
Since Microsoft has broken the law, they should be placed on parole. They shouldn't be allowed to release software without it first being approved by the government to ensure they will not continue to break the law.
I thought we had this all sorted out. This worm/virus does not spread because of insecure software, it spreads because people are dumb enough to run attachments.
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Why would anyone use Netscape when there's Mozilla? What advantages are there?
The self defence point is a good one. I wonder if it would change the legality of it depending on how its executed. If you were to set up a script that would clean any machine that asked for default.ida off yours, then is it still illegal? You're not going out and actively searching for and patching servers, you're just hosting a file on your webserver, and if someone else requests that file from you, then its their problem what happens as a result. This passive approach just might be legal. This is all gross assumption however, since IANAL.
That's an odd pronunciation...
Well I can see how that would happen. They think they're starting to get to know Jenny, then all of a sudden, they realize it wasn't really Jenny at all...
This is discriminatory against those who read slowly. I mean, why should they have to pay more?
You forgot about text and images too. Those can transfer ads as well.
These are all very good points.
I think the only advertising on the net that has ever really caught my attention is Thinkgeek. Why? Because they sell products that interest me. Simple as that.
Consider too for a second the difference between a little banner for Thinkgeek at the top of Slashdot to a pop-up spycam ad. The banner sits up there all the time, unobtrusively, but yet still eye-catching. The pop-up ads however, I can't close fast enough, and once closed their gone. I never actually look at those ads save to gawk at the hot girl for a couple seconds. And if I do catch the name or logo of the company reponsible it just incites an ire in me for them. Now which do you think is more effective?
The same goes for radio ads. The ones that make me laugh or think or enjoy them in some way create a happy image of that company in my mind. On the other hand, the crappy, overplayed ads cause me great irritation. I usually end up switching stations if one comes on, and have been tempted to call the radio station and tell them to stop playing those horrible ads or they'll lose more listenership like myself.
I think that the old theory of getting a company's name into the heads of the masses at all costs is severely flawed. People make associations with those names which can later affect them. How many people say to themselves "Hmm... I need a long distance carrier... AT&T keeps phoning me and pestering me during supper, I think I'll go with them"? Compare that to how many people are pleasantly surprised when the telemarketer from X company actually respects your response of "I'm not interested". The latter company establishes a good image in the consumer's mind, and will be more likely to get their business down the road.
How could you have a free Linux party without free beer? Or is this just another attempt to get people to understand what the "free" in Free Software really means?
At the very least, the existence of Ogg Vorbis means that Fraunhoffer will have to behave. If they tried to control mp3s more they'd be shooting themselves in the foot with another, better, codec trying to break through.
I'd be very interested in hearing the english version of this comment. Can anyone help me out?
Creating an Apache script that patches any infected hosts would be pretty cool, but I'll be impressed when someone writes a script that installs Linux/Apache on infected hosts.
Just point him to this thread... that should be good enough.
Ironic that you should refer to Apple users as the "lunatic fringe" when just the other day I saw a commercial for WindowsXP with the song Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider playing in the background while this guy at a desk is blasting across the salt flats a la recent Maxima commercials (which I love to watch).
I have 953 messages in my inbox and 1062 in my sent folder right now. Mozilla is handling it just fine.
That's really hard to say, because a new "version", if you can call it that, is released every night. Larger releases are released once every couple months (such as 0.9.2, 0.9.3 etc.) I remember back to when versions were listed by Milestone releases (I think the first one I used was M17), although I guess every 0.0.1 gain is still considered another milestone.
So to answer your question, I guess you could count milestones and apply v1, v2 etc to each one. Unfortunately I don't actually know how many milestones have been hit. I think M18 was the last one labelled like that, before we got into 0.8.x, but I'm just going from vague memory.
I think the key to remember though is that Mozilla is constantly improving, with new, slightly improved builds being released several times a day. I'm currently runnning build 2001062815 (old, I know) which was the 15th build of June 28th, the date that 0.9.2 was release, I believe.
Wouldn't /. be a more appropriate keyword?
Ok, just being picky...
Since Microsoft has broken the law, they should be placed on parole. They shouldn't be allowed to release software without it first being approved by the government to ensure they will not continue to break the law.
Hmm... I wonder if Win95 will stop crashing if I somehow ground it too.
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Is she clueless, or making a statement?
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