The Question was: Why LinuxPPC, when there is OS X.
Well, apart from the newPowerPC Open Platform Motherboards - which are basically CHRP warmed over, the IBM pSeries and iSeries servers are hardly embedded platforms. So there are still real, new (as opposed to old or embedded) computers that can not run OS X.
You have? Then why didn't you realize that the article is almost completly about the new protection system found (and AFAIK only) in their screen grabber? Or do you grab screens for fun?
And then A) people on Slashdot will complain that your help costs money, that you don't have any costs providing it, and that you deserve that B) others will pirate that help.
Let's ignore that not even all Macs can run OS X, here's a quote from the interview:
"The PPC tree has it's own complexities, mostly because we have to deal with a large set of very different machines and CPUs. From the PowerMacs, PRePs & CHRP, the 4xx and 8xx based embedded platforms, and even IBM pSeries and iSeries servers."
Yes, but I never heard of the term carlord. And since most Americans buy most things on credit, those things probably belong to their banklord and creditcardlord.
Looking at Ebay, I see 2043 (iMacs + PowerMacs) vs. 7098 (486s + PentiumXs + Celerons + Athlons +Durons + K6s + Cyrix + others). More than 20% of the "not ancient computers" market is hardly "much smaller".
Here it is for the tenth time and then I won't look at this thread again. Assuming constant demand in both markets.
D'oh. Assuming. Ass you. Just you. Just do it. To yourself. The math.
If there are 100 people who want an SE 30 but only 15 available then the price will be higher than if there are 100 available. Notice demand never changed but price did.
What are you, retarded? Have you looked at the links you gave? Prove that the supply (a function of price; supply: price -> quantity (the seller(s) is(/are) willing to sell at a given price)) changed, yet demand ( demand: price -> quantity (the buyer(s) is(/are) willing to buy at a given price)) didn't. Don't let the chart with the changing "Demand" line and the red "Need" line stop you to read on.
Again, you confuse supply with the maximum available quantity of the good, and demand with the number of people willing to buy the product at all.
As for your Ebay explanation: different people have different damands. In a market with more than one buyer the total demand curve takes all into account and thus averages them (which does not mean arithmetic mean per se). In the case of the auction, the buyer with the highest demand (of those partaking) always gets the good (ignoring quirks in the system). Even though a large proportion of bidders have a lower demand than average, there usually is one with a higher demand than average - and that one is enough to raise the price higher than the actual market price. The more bidders, the higher both the chance that there is one above market price, and the amount he is willing to go above (even if inadvertently).
Holy moron, Batman! Why don't you just tell us what "supply" and "demand" mean in your wierd little world?
1) Second hand Apple market is about 1/20th the size of the second hand PC market therefore supply is lower, price is higher.
Let's see, we have two independent markets, one 1/20th the size of the other. Therefore supply in the in the first is lower. Sure. Tell your economy teacher about it. He'll have a good laugh.
2) Everybody and their mother sells PC components but there are relatively few Apple resellers and pretty much no Apple component sellers. So? There are more people selling bananas than people selling electricity.
2)[sic] Prices on Ebay are incredibly inflated for everything. I seen items like digital cameras go for $400 when I could buy the same camera from Best Buy for $360 and online for $300.
Ah, I see. So prices for Macs on Ebay are higher than those for PCs because both are inflated. Good to know, Mr. Greenspan.
In case you missed it, the supply and demand on Ebay (and all other ways to sell used computers) are for almost all cases the prices for the quantity of one unit of merchandise (in this case one computer, PC or Mac), in the case of supply the price the seller is willing to sell at, for demand the price people are willing to buy at. In the special case of online auctions, where the seller can only expect to get his supply (or nothing/no sale) if he sets the minimum price to that, while those who want to buy raise the price till they reache their demand, and in the end the one with the highest demand wins, often below his demand. In other cases, the seller tells potential buyers his price(supply), and one who has a higher demand will accept his offer. If there is no higher demand, the seller either will not sell his computer, or will have to lower his supply.
Oh my. You are confusing market price with an arbitrary sticker price of one vendor. Market price is what people will pay (or rather something within the price range people will buy for because there is no homogenous market). It depends on supply and demand.
The sticker price however simply depends on what the vendor asks. it depends only on what the vendor thinks the market will pay. If he guesses low, he will sell it at that price (and have greater demand than those with higher prices), if he guesses too high, he will not sell (much).
Further, you are confusing supply with the number of goods available. I bet you are a former DOT-COMer.
The prices people pay for used Macs are obviously market prices. So are he prices foe PS2s. In the case of the early PS2s, there wasn't low supply, there was excess demand - this drove the market price higher than the asking price of the (sole) vendor of new PS2s, Sony.
When you use the words "supply" and "demand", you assume that you know what you are talking about. You don't.
Oh yeah, let me post as intelligently as you. Please show me to the enlightend economics course where they teach that price only depends on suply and not on demand. Do me a favor and only post once you acquired a clue.
Ahh, so "supply is lower, price is higher". What's missing here - hmm - oh yes, demand. You forgot demand. Now try again, figuring demand into your considerations.
Yeah, it takes you about that long - if you already have experience building one. This does not include the time to select all the parts. I wonder why you DIY types always miss that bit of time in the calculations. Unless you manufacture (as in the original meaning: (mass-)produce by hand) several of the same machine, this is a big factor in time (and for most in price).
Well, that's nice for you. But I find building my own PC from pre-fabed parts about as thrilling as painting by numbers. I'd much rather either buy a good painting or paint one myself, even if it sucks.
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Well, apart from the new PowerPC Open Platform Motherboards - which are basically CHRP warmed over, the IBM pSeries and iSeries servers are hardly embedded platforms. So there are still real, new (as opposed to old or embedded) computers that can not run OS X.
You have? Then why didn't you realize that the article is almost completly about the new protection system found (and AFAIK only) in their screen grabber? Or do you grab screens for fun?
And then A) people on Slashdot will complain that your help costs money, that you don't have any costs providing it, and that you deserve that B) others will pirate that help.
Cough. Online registration. Read the article.
"The PPC tree has it's own complexities, mostly because we have to deal with a large set of very different machines and CPUs. From the PowerMacs, PRePs & CHRP, the 4xx and 8xx based embedded platforms, and even IBM pSeries and iSeries servers."
But you are right double precision is good for scientific calculations - and quad-precision (currently being researched) may well be better.
Unless they don't have (paying) customers. IOW no free streaming MPEG4 pr0n streams for you.
You are welcome. If somebody asks me about DivX, I'll answer about DivX, not DivX 4.
Under the new scheme, a "use fee" will be charged to service providers based on the time or duration of MPEG-4 video stream playback.
Looks like people (and only those) who use MPEG4 to stream video will have to pay this use fee - unless they get their customers to do it for them.
Yet another Slashdot poster who doesn't know what Quicktime is. No, I'm not going to bother teaching you, you lazy git.
Yes, but I never heard of the term carlord. And since most Americans buy most things on credit, those things probably belong to their banklord and creditcardlord.
It doesn't affect DivX, because that doen't actually use MPEG4, but a hacked-up version of a pre-released version by MS.
No, it's called renting (or leasing) something.
Looking at Ebay, I see 2043 (iMacs + PowerMacs) vs. 7098 (486s + PentiumXs + Celerons + Athlons +Durons + K6s + Cyrix + others). More than 20% of the "not ancient computers" market is hardly "much smaller".
D'oh. Assuming. Ass you. Just you. Just do it. To yourself. The math.
If there are 100 people who want an SE 30 but only 15 available then the price will be higher than if there are 100 available. Notice demand never changed but price did.
What are you, retarded? Have you looked at the links you gave? Prove that the supply (a function of price; supply: price -> quantity (the seller(s) is(/are) willing to sell at a given price)) changed, yet demand ( demand: price -> quantity (the buyer(s) is(/are) willing to buy at a given price)) didn't. Don't let the chart with the changing "Demand" line and the red "Need" line stop you to read on.
Again, you confuse supply with the maximum available quantity of the good, and demand with the number of people willing to buy the product at all.
As for your Ebay explanation: different people have different damands. In a market with more than one buyer the total demand curve takes all into account and thus averages them (which does not mean arithmetic mean per se). In the case of the auction, the buyer with the highest demand (of those partaking) always gets the good (ignoring quirks in the system). Even though a large proportion of bidders have a lower demand than average, there usually is one with a higher demand than average - and that one is enough to raise the price higher than the actual market price. The more bidders, the higher both the chance that there is one above market price, and the amount he is willing to go above (even if inadvertently).
Try to win the argument by posting as AC and replying to yourself. Lowlife.
1) Second hand Apple market is about 1/20th the size of the second hand PC market therefore supply is lower, price is higher.
Let's see, we have two independent markets, one 1/20th the size of the other. Therefore supply in the in the first is lower. Sure. Tell your economy teacher about it. He'll have a good laugh.
2) Everybody and their mother sells PC components but there are relatively few Apple resellers and pretty much no Apple component sellers. So? There are more people selling bananas than people selling electricity.
2)[sic] Prices on Ebay are incredibly inflated for everything. I seen items like digital cameras go for $400 when I could buy the same camera from Best Buy for $360 and online for $300.
Ah, I see. So prices for Macs on Ebay are higher than those for PCs because both are inflated. Good to know, Mr. Greenspan.
In case you missed it, the supply and demand on Ebay (and all other ways to sell used computers) are for almost all cases the prices for the quantity of one unit of merchandise (in this case one computer, PC or Mac), in the case of supply the price the seller is willing to sell at, for demand the price people are willing to buy at. In the special case of online auctions, where the seller can only expect to get his supply (or nothing/no sale) if he sets the minimum price to that, while those who want to buy raise the price till they reache their demand, and in the end the one with the highest demand wins, often below his demand. In other cases, the seller tells potential buyers his price(supply), and one who has a higher demand will accept his offer. If there is no higher demand, the seller either will not sell his computer, or will have to lower his supply.
the Bazaar is getting crowded. To put it mildly.
The sticker price however simply depends on what the vendor asks. it depends only on what the vendor thinks the market will pay. If he guesses low, he will sell it at that price (and have greater demand than those with higher prices), if he guesses too high, he will not sell (much).
Further, you are confusing supply with the number of goods available. I bet you are a former DOT-COMer.
The prices people pay for used Macs are obviously market prices. So are he prices foe PS2s. In the case of the early PS2s, there wasn't low supply, there was excess demand - this drove the market price higher than the asking price of the (sole) vendor of new PS2s, Sony.
When you use the words "supply" and "demand", you assume that you know what you are talking about. You don't.
Oh yeah, let me post as intelligently as you. Please show me to the enlightend economics course where they teach that price only depends on suply and not on demand. Do me a favor and only post once you acquired a clue.
Ahh, so "supply is lower, price is higher". What's missing here - hmm - oh yes, demand. You forgot demand. Now try again, figuring demand into your considerations.
Just 3 posts above, a top-of-the-line PC costs 2K. Man, thes PC lose value fast.
Yeah, it takes you about that long - if you already have experience building one. This does not include the time to select all the parts. I wonder why you DIY types always miss that bit of time in the calculations. Unless you manufacture (as in the original meaning: (mass-)produce by hand) several of the same machine, this is a big factor in time (and for most in price).
Well, that's nice for you. But I find building my own PC from pre-fabed parts about as thrilling as painting by numbers. I'd much rather either buy a good painting or paint one myself, even if it sucks.
Fist - Hit the Kung Pow.