What I find strange is that the same tree hugging geniuses who come up with "carbon is to blame for global warming" are the idiots who treat symptoms by causing worse symptoms
You mean geniuses, errm tree huggers like Shell and the Corven Group?
It isn't GW denying, it's that CO2 probably accounts for less than 25% of the greenhouse effect. If we're looking to manage the greenhouse effect ("manage" because if we overdo it we get a global cooling problem) then it's no good just looking at CO2. The fact that the effects of greenhouse gasses are often quoted in CO2 equivalent tends to mislead people into thinking that CO2 is the only gas that matters.
Of course it isn't. But tell an American he not only has to give up his stupid SUV, he's also eating too much meat, whose production releases huge amounts of methane, and you'll never get this solved. The good thing we already stopped releasing CFCs like there is no tomorrow.
Oh, you were talking about water vapor - have you ever heard of a positive feedback loop?
Ah, a budding Zampolit, eh? Has it occurred to you that perhaps the person whose throat you're jumping down might have some basis for his skepticism, or is that simply unthinkable?
-jcr
Well, reading too many neo-con blogs isn't a good basis for skepticism.
It doesn't work that way. I'll be blunt: learning OSX is a pain. There's a ton of non-obvious stuff that is completely different from the Windows world (I'll just point to tabbing between firefox windows when other apps are open as one of my initial pain points), and which have to be re-learned.
And then there are things that OSX simply won't do. In Windows if I want to delete something I can click on the file, icon, object or whatever and press the Delete button my keyboard. In OSX I have to drag it to the Trash Can. Ya... that's a really efficient "workflow". I have another gripe with the way OSX doesn't properly utilize the Delete key. I will use the example of typing in a web address. I want to go to www.google.com. So I type it out but accidently type www.boogle.com. Now if I want to delete the B, I have to put the cursor after the B and press backspace. I can't put the cursor in front of the B and press Delete. WTF is up with that? Everyone knows... Backspace moves the cursor to the left and deletes text to the left of the cursor. Delete keeps the cursor in place and deletes text to the right of the cursor. What is so hard about that?
Is there a solution to that? Every OSX geek I've talked to just brushes me off like I'm stupid for wanting to use the Delete key. That gives me the sense that there really isn't a solution to it and the GUI Gods at Apple do suck, but they suck differently from the guys at Microsoft. Or maybe there is a special key on an Apple keyboard that acts like the Delete key on the computers that hold onto the other... what, 82% of the market share?
So lets recap: most of your problems come from using Firefox on the Mac: switching Tabs doesn't work, Delete key doesn't work - those work fine in Safari. As for deleting a file (apart from using the second mouse button to open the context menu): Apple-Backspace.
Then read it again. It was update a few minutes later.
The company, through its own admission, modified the copyrighted work, then distributed those modifications without license and for commercial purposes. The company also used at least one Apple trademark in its marketing.
Yeah, sure, a "completely open hardware + software phone platform" that has no features most other phones have is innovative - and I'm the one twisting definitions.
Of course at the time your geeks talked about "wouldn't it be cool if", the features were present in the test models of the iPhone - while they are still in the "wouldn't it be cool" phase for OpenMoko.
We're talking about whether the ideas themselves are innovative, not whether Apple is able to put ideas together in a mass consumer friendly fashion.
You appear to have mistaken this for the "let's bash OpenMoko" thread.
Listen, having ideas, and having ideas and then actually implementing them - that is the difference between dreamers and innovators. And patting your back for having an idea after somebody else already implemented it is...
IIRC these ideas and more where being thrown around on the OpenMoko mailing list before the iPhone was announced.
Of course at the time your geeks talked about "wouldn't it be cool if", the features were present in the test models of the iPhone - while they are still in the "wouldn't it be cool" phase for OpenMoko.
It is illegal to sell a modified, (unlicensed) OS X (or any other work under copyright), no matter the whining about "imaginary property".
Except Psystar *PURCHASES* OSX licenses. There is a rather fuzzy area regarding what they're allowed to do with those licenses once they have them, but click-through EULA's have been put to the test in court and shot down. Or are you saying that everyone that's purchased and hacked OSX onto a PC should also be sued?
Either the modification is legal or it's not. Either selling (or reselling) OSX is legal or it's not.
What makes you think selling a modified copyrighted work is legal? Ignoring all your other blather that is partly true, partly false.
Windows ME competes with System 9, not OSX. System 9 is trash. How ridiculous is it that System9 requires the user to tell an application how much ram to use? That's not user friendly, that's not well designed.
Considering the default memory setting is perfect for 99.999% of cases (and apps written for MacOS 8 can actually request more memory dynamically if they don't want to put System stuff there), yes it is. If that is your only complaint...
Oddly enough, more and more people buy Macs today not only because
they can run Windows, but also because they can ditch OS X if they don't like it. IOW you are wrong.
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Let me get this straight: the good thing about Nokia phones is that they contain hardware Nokia promises to actually use in later software updates.
Wow, that's almost as bad as suing companies that use GPLed software in their software and don't distribute the source. Via lawsuit!
"but there is nothing wrong with that because Apple has no monopoly in any market."
Nothing wrong to you maybe, personally I think no matter what the game, the players should all be playing by the same rules.
And those rules would be to all produce the same product, so nobody has an unfair advantage.
I sometimes get the idea that Apple is stuck in the early 1980s when every company made stuff that was only ocmpatible with their stuff.
Yeah, it's time Apple and those Linux guys finally came to their senses and let Microsoft run the business.
What I find strange is that the same tree hugging geniuses who come up with "carbon is to blame for global warming" are the idiots who treat symptoms by causing worse symptoms
You mean geniuses, errm tree huggers like Shell and the Corven Group?
It isn't GW denying, it's that CO2 probably accounts for less than 25% of the greenhouse effect. If we're looking to manage the greenhouse effect ("manage" because if we overdo it we get a global cooling problem) then it's no good just looking at CO2. The fact that the effects of greenhouse gasses are often quoted in CO2 equivalent tends to mislead people into thinking that CO2 is the only gas that matters.
Of course it isn't. But tell an American he not only has to give up his stupid SUV, he's also eating too much meat, whose production releases huge amounts of methane, and you'll never get this solved. The good thing we already stopped releasing CFCs like there is no tomorrow.
Oh, you were talking about water vapor - have you ever heard of a positive feedback loop?
A budding GW denier eh?
Ah, a budding Zampolit, eh? Has it occurred to you that perhaps the person whose throat you're jumping down might have some basis for his skepticism, or is that simply unthinkable?
-jcr
Well, reading too many neo-con blogs isn't a good basis for skepticism.
Sorry that I don't accept Microsoft of giver of all that's good in the world.
It doesn't work that way. I'll be blunt: learning OSX is a pain. There's a ton of non-obvious stuff that is completely different from the Windows world (I'll just point to tabbing between firefox windows when other apps are open as one of my initial pain points), and which have to be re-learned.
And then there are things that OSX simply won't do. In Windows if I want to delete something I can click on the file, icon, object or whatever and press the Delete button my keyboard. In OSX I have to drag it to the Trash Can. Ya... that's a really efficient "workflow". I have another gripe with the way OSX doesn't properly utilize the Delete key. I will use the example of typing in a web address. I want to go to www.google.com. So I type it out but accidently type www.boogle.com. Now if I want to delete the B, I have to put the cursor after the B and press backspace. I can't put the cursor in front of the B and press Delete. WTF is up with that? Everyone knows... Backspace moves the cursor to the left and deletes text to the left of the cursor. Delete keeps the cursor in place and deletes text to the right of the cursor. What is so hard about that?
Is there a solution to that? Every OSX geek I've talked to just brushes me off like I'm stupid for wanting to use the Delete key. That gives me the sense that there really isn't a solution to it and the GUI Gods at Apple do suck, but they suck differently from the guys at Microsoft. Or maybe there is a special key on an Apple keyboard that acts like the Delete key on the computers that hold onto the other ... what, 82% of the market share?
So lets recap: most of your problems come from using Firefox on the Mac: switching Tabs doesn't work, Delete key doesn't work - those work fine in Safari. As for deleting a file (apart from using the second mouse button to open the context menu): Apple-Backspace.
So it's 1.25 hours for the install, not counting the time it took to get all the drivers beforehand.
The company, through its own admission, modified the copyrighted work, then distributed those modifications without license and for commercial purposes. The company also used at least one Apple trademark in its marketing.
Because they also buy from Microsoft, you shill.
Yeah, sure, a "completely open hardware + software phone platform" that has no features most other phones have is innovative - and I'm the one twisting definitions.
It's people like you who force the Rolling Stones to stay in business until Jagger has to come on stage with a walker.
Of course at the time your geeks talked about "wouldn't it be cool if", the features were present in the test models of the iPhone - while they are still in the "wouldn't it be cool" phase for OpenMoko.
We're talking about whether the ideas themselves are innovative, not whether Apple is able to put ideas together in a mass consumer friendly fashion.
You appear to have mistaken this for the "let's bash OpenMoko" thread.
Listen, having ideas, and having ideas and then actually implementing them - that is the difference between dreamers and innovators. And patting your back for having an idea after somebody else already implemented it is ...
They also didn't invent multi-touch.
MS actually had a demo multi-touch computer back in the 90's.
Which was about as mobile as Ayers Rock.
IIRC these ideas and more where being thrown around on the OpenMoko mailing list before the iPhone was announced.
Of course at the time your geeks talked about "wouldn't it be cool if", the features were present in the test models of the iPhone - while they are still in the "wouldn't it be cool" phase for OpenMoko.
RTFA.
Except Psystar *PURCHASES* OSX licenses. There is a rather fuzzy area regarding what they're allowed to do with those licenses once they have them, but click-through EULA's have been put to the test in court and shot down. Or are you saying that everyone that's purchased and hacked OSX onto a PC should also be sued?
Either the modification is legal or it's not. Either selling (or reselling) OSX is legal or it's not.
What makes you think selling a modified copyrighted work is legal? Ignoring all your other blather that is partly true, partly false.
Psyster is not buying a license to modify OS X.
Psystar could still sell computers if apple didn't exist.
But they couldn't sell computers running OS X. So why don't they do just that? Oh, you can't make money building computers?
So it should be illegal to sell 'mac compatible' computers? Or it should be illegal to modify OSX?
It is illegal to sell a modified, (unlicensed) OS X (or any other work under copyright), no matter the whining about "imaginary property".
No, I said people are buying Macs to run Windows and Windows only. You can argue around it all you want.
Windows ME competes with System 9, not OSX. System 9 is trash. How ridiculous is it that System9 requires the user to tell an application how much ram to use? That's not user friendly, that's not well designed.
Considering the default memory setting is perfect for 99.999% of cases (and apps written for MacOS 8 can actually request more memory dynamically if they don't want to put System stuff there), yes it is. If that is your only complaint...
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/07/04/axel-springers-10000-employees-switching-to-mac/
Oddly enough, more and more people buy Macs today not only because they can run Windows, but also because they can ditch OS X if they don't like it. IOW you are wrong.