Intel won't support Linux on one of their new architectures? And, what makes this different than their position in the past?
After all, the reason that the x86_64 architectures are generally referred to as "amd64" in the linux community is because AMD came to the linux/open-source communities and said, "Here! This is what we got. Take a look and tell us what you think." where Intel, when questioned about the specs on their 64-bit architectures, said "We can't tell you that... that's proprietary information."
To the best of my knowledge, Intel has never been much support to the linux community, traditionally. It still hasn't stopped us from developing code that supports their architectures... It just takes longer as you have to pick apart the specs from the outside. So, the first few that decide to load linux on a Clover Trail system will have some extra work to do, but I don't think this is any more of a show-stopper than it has been in the past.
"severely damaging to test credibility... when you don't allow users to run your test on some of your competition's offerings, such as Safari. All they're trying to do is say "We're the best (in this carefully chosen group)" Of course they're going to win that argument..."
And, it's the *same* argument that Microsoft's marketing makes over and over again. Does anyone remember these?
"Windows XP is the most secure operating system Microsoft has ever shipped." (Author's Note: Other than MS-DOS, perhaps... Remember: No networking, no network attacks! hehe) "Vista is the most secure OS ever." "One World, One Web, One Program." (Author's Note: An advert for Internet Explorer from 1998 (? 2001?))
When it comes down to it, if you are actually capable of believing *any* of the trash that Microsoft's marketing puts out, well then I have a bridge for sale for you. Needs a bit of clean-up from the bird-droppings, but I can give you a great deal on it! Let me know!
...Most people do not own multiple computers or store their music in several places...
Check yourself on this one! Computers have been around for *quite* a while now and most people *do* own more than one computer by this time! They may not use more than one computer at a time, though. (The ol' "I've got my old system sitting in the closet/garage/attic, collecting dust" syndrome.)
Now, most of the folks reading this thread would not have many, if any, systems that are not doing *something* around their house (For instance, I am using an old P133 as my FW/Router, and a good friend of mine turned an AMD K7 450 into a webserver at his house.)
And, as far as storing music in multiple locations, the first thing my very first Computer Lab teacher ever taught us was: "The three most important words in computing are... Backup, backup and BACKUP!"
So, if the iPod and Apple are fine with being tied down like that inside their own systems, well... We get the pleasure of laughing at them when their drives go south and they need to try to rebuild their collections by asking to get copies of certain songs from *our* collections. Ha ha!
While this Register article *is* a story about something Linus Torvalds said, if you look at the article, this is more about a reporter working for his bonus!
This article is a perfect example of why many people feel that the current media has gotten out of control. By hiding behind their reporter's badges, they think they can report anything and everything that will sell more copies and/or capture more market share, and will present it in such a sensational fashion with NO regard to the collateral damage they may inflict. Now there is only one way to combat this kind of journalism... TURN IT OFF!!! Don't read it, watch it and CERTAINLY don't click through on any of the sponsors. I, myself, am not a regular subscriber to the Register, and after having read this article, I will now view ANYTHING that references a Register article with an air of suspicion. Not that I will totally discount those articles either... But, now I will have to do even more research into the truth behind the articles that come from the Register. And, if I can't find a corroborating article from a reliable source, then I will totally discount it.
We are the ones really in control here. We are the ones with the research tools at our fingertips that people a mere 20 years ago would have killed for, yet many of us are failing to use these tools. If we stop playing up to the sensationalism, then it will have to stop because the bottom line for any publishing company is money. If you are losing your market share because people don't want to see crap, then you have to give the people what they want or go out of business.
We like to think of ourselves as being near the top of the intelligence scale (or at least in the upper half.) Well, that comes with the responsibility of using that intelligence to find and verify the truth behind the lies. Not to give the reflexive knee-jerk reaction to everything we read. We *are* the best, but that means we need to continually prove it!
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And, of course my question is.... Will it blend? ;)
Intel won't support Linux on one of their new architectures? And, what makes this different than their position in the past?
After all, the reason that the x86_64 architectures are generally referred to as "amd64" in the linux community is because AMD came to the linux/open-source communities and said, "Here! This is what we got. Take a look and tell us what you think." where Intel, when questioned about the specs on their 64-bit architectures, said "We can't tell you that... that's proprietary information."
To the best of my knowledge, Intel has never been much support to the linux community, traditionally. It still hasn't stopped us from developing code that supports their architectures... It just takes longer as you have to pick apart the specs from the outside. So, the first few that decide to load linux on a Clover Trail system will have some extra work to do, but I don't think this is any more of a show-stopper than it has been in the past.
"Power to the Penguin!"
"severely damaging to test credibility... when you don't allow users to run your test on some of your competition's offerings, such as Safari.
All they're trying to do is say "We're the best (in this carefully chosen group)" Of course they're going to win that argument..."
And, it's the *same* argument that Microsoft's marketing makes over and over again.
Does anyone remember these?
"Windows XP is the most secure operating system Microsoft has ever shipped." (Author's Note: Other than MS-DOS, perhaps... Remember: No networking, no network attacks! hehe)
"Vista is the most secure OS ever."
"One World, One Web, One Program." (Author's Note: An advert for Internet Explorer from 1998 (? 2001?))
When it comes down to it, if you are actually capable of believing *any* of the trash that Microsoft's marketing puts out, well then I have a bridge for sale for you. Needs a bit of clean-up from the bird-droppings, but I can give you a great deal on it! Let me know!
Check yourself on this one! Computers have been around for *quite* a while now and most people *do* own more than one computer by this time! They may not use more than one computer at a time, though. (The ol' "I've got my old system sitting in the closet/garage/attic, collecting dust" syndrome.)
Now, most of the folks reading this thread would not have many, if any, systems that are not doing *something* around their house (For instance, I am using an old P133 as my FW/Router, and a good friend of mine turned an AMD K7 450 into a webserver at his house.)
And, as far as storing music in multiple locations, the first thing my very first Computer Lab teacher ever taught us was:
"The three most important words in computing are... Backup, backup and BACKUP!"
So, if the iPod and Apple are fine with being tied down like that inside their own systems, well... We get the pleasure of laughing at them when their drives go south and they need to try to rebuild their collections by asking to get copies of certain songs from *our* collections. Ha ha!
While this Register article *is* a story about something Linus Torvalds said, if you look at the article, this is more about a reporter working for his bonus!
This article is a perfect example of why many people feel that the current media has gotten out of control. By hiding behind their reporter's badges, they think they can report anything and everything that will sell more copies and/or capture more market share, and will present it in such a sensational fashion with NO regard to the collateral damage they may inflict. Now there is only one way to combat this kind of journalism... TURN IT OFF!!! Don't read it, watch it and CERTAINLY don't click through on any of the sponsors. I, myself, am not a regular subscriber to the Register, and after having read this article, I will now view ANYTHING that references a Register article with an air of suspicion. Not that I will totally discount those articles either... But, now I will have to do even more research into the truth behind the articles that come from the Register. And, if I can't find a corroborating article from a reliable source, then I will totally discount it.
We are the ones really in control here. We are the ones with the research tools at our fingertips that people a mere 20 years ago would have killed for, yet many of us are failing to use these tools. If we stop playing up to the sensationalism, then it will have to stop because the bottom line for any publishing company is money. If you are losing your market share because people don't want to see crap, then you have to give the people what they want or go out of business.
We like to think of ourselves as being near the top of the intelligence scale (or at least in the upper half.) Well, that comes with the responsibility of using that intelligence to find and verify the truth behind the lies. Not to give the reflexive knee-jerk reaction to everything we read. We *are* the best, but that means we need to continually prove it!
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