> The people who began the WINE project - for better or worse - chose the BSD licence for their code. Why will you not respect that decision, and do the same for your portion?
If you choose the BSD licence, then you effectively tell the world that what TransGaming is doing is OK with you. Thus it is not a matter of respect if TransGaming keep their code to themselves. It would be a matter of disrespect if someone persistently demanded (and for no good reason maybe?) of the WINE project that they changed their licence.
> Has TransGaming contributed to the WINE project? Of course they have. But without the thousands of hours of DONATED time and effort done by other people working on the core of WINE, TransGaming would have nothing to base its work on. What gives TransGaming the right to demand payment for its contributions, when so many more people have contributed as much or more and expecting no payment in return?
This is ridiculous. For each IF-THEN statement I write, I am not forced to go to the Temple of Logic to pray my thanks to Lord Aristotle for doing research on the precursor to first order logic. If you need to stand on the shoulders of giants to make your livelyhood, then that's ok. Science and civilisation both depend on that ability. It is really only religious people who demand that "the spirit in which Plato did this or that" should be "respected" by all living beings for several hundred years to come.
>But the road that TranGaming has chosen I find distasteful and borderline extortive. How do you justify this behaviour?
I suppose they would simply deny that your personal view on their work is screwed and leave it at that?
> And a big, HUGE thumbs down to TransGaming, for taking this step in the first place! Yes, they are simply trying to protect their business model, and I understand that. But I offer than any business model that requires poisoning a community effort in this way in order to ensure its success is a business model that should not have been attempted in the first place.
The BSD licence is specificly tailored to allowing this kind of behaviour. Hackers know this. If the licence implications offend you, then don't participate. If you have no problem with projects of the kind TransGaming is undertaking, then go ahead and join the team.
In other words; the rules are known to anyone who participates, and since those participants accept those rules it cannot really be stated that TransGaming is "poisoning" a community effort whose rules they do not break.
Are you with me? Puritans (like you) have admirable goals, but should not allow themselves to get upset by the fact that un-pure mixing also works great in many situations.
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If you choose the BSD licence, then you effectively tell the world that what TransGaming is doing is OK with you. Thus it is not a matter of respect if TransGaming keep their code to themselves. It would be a matter of disrespect if someone persistently demanded (and for no good reason maybe?) of the WINE project that they changed their licence.
> Has TransGaming contributed to the WINE project? Of course they have. But without the thousands of hours of DONATED time and effort done by other people working on the core of WINE, TransGaming would have nothing to base its work on.
What gives TransGaming the right to demand payment for its contributions, when so many more people have contributed as much or more and expecting no payment in return?
This is ridiculous. For each IF-THEN statement I write, I am not forced to go to the Temple of Logic to pray my thanks to Lord Aristotle for doing research on the precursor to first order logic.
If you need to stand on the shoulders of giants to make your livelyhood, then that's ok. Science and civilisation both depend on that ability. It is really only religious people who demand that "the spirit in which Plato did this or that" should be "respected" by all living beings for several hundred years to come.
>But the road that TranGaming has chosen I find distasteful and borderline extortive. How do you justify this behaviour?
I suppose they would simply deny that your personal view on their work is screwed and leave it at that?
The BSD licence is specificly tailored to allowing this kind of behaviour. Hackers know this. If the licence implications offend you, then don't participate. If you have no problem with projects of the kind TransGaming is undertaking, then go ahead and join the team.
In other words; the rules are known to anyone who participates, and since those participants accept those rules it cannot really be stated that TransGaming is "poisoning" a community effort whose rules they do not break.
Are you with me? Puritans (like you) have admirable goals, but should not allow themselves to get upset by the fact that un-pure mixing also works great in many situations.