In it the God has given us a clear set of rules with which to live by. Anything and anyone who acts against these instructions is also acting against the God. Since God is Good, acting against him is Evil. Is the logic simple enough for you to see?
Here's a bit of logic: you're an idiot.
Record companies distribute the money from records sales to ALL the atrists signed up to a label (in the form of advances on royalties, not the royalties themselves).
Yeah, and I never said that that was not true. I am talking about this tax levy collected from CDR sales not the money made on album sales.
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nah...the girl behind the counter said she agreed with me, plus she only works there, I am not gonna yell at someone when its really not their fault. I just said to her that it seemed funny that the SONY store would be the only electronics store in Canada NOT carrying this SONY product, as i have confirmed that a few other retailers will carry it...then I said that I would have liked to buy it there, but would now have to shop elsewhere.
But I have placed a few calls to SONY MUSIC CANADA and SONY ELECTRONICS about this and sent a few emails...but most people I have talked to don't have a clue what I am talking about. "An mp3/cd player? What is that?"
yeah indie musicians will get screwed by this. But with the internet, maybe online music delivery is a solution...no manufacturing costs whatsoever...and plenty of sites like mp3.com host for free.
Exept that most blank cd-r's have a shelf life of 2 years or so. i am not totaly sure why but when ever i have had say a spindle of 100 sitting around for about that amount of time they are almost all unburnable.
yeah, i think i read somewhere that it has something to do with the dye going rigid after awhile...if someone has more info on this, please post. But also, these "spindles of 100" you are buying: are they some cheapo brand or a major label brand? The reason i ask is that the best cdr's I have ever used are Kodak Gold and have a bunch marked "1999" and work great still.
don't worry, you are never going to see a cent of it, that i can guarantee you. I would be surprised if it ever gets dispersed to artists, most likely it will go into the record company's pocket and stay there.
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Cassettes cost more (and take longer) to manufacture than CDs, and yet CDs cost more...and always have...and the next format (digital downloads?)will cost even more...larger profit margins is the name of the game...that is why they will sell digital album downloads for $16 even though their is no manufacturing costs....
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Too bad the money is probably all going to Celine Dion since there is no way to know what people ARE burning, they probbaly distribute based on sales...
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yeah, except most of the tax is probably going to Celine Dion because there is no real way to know what people are burning, so they distribute based on sales, even though noone is probably burning Celine Dion! So that's where your tax dollars are going...
But isn't that what RIAA wants? They want to kill the competition, right?
I don't think that is necessarily the case. Indie music hardly puts a dent in their sales, and the indies are almost like the "farm team" for major labels, where they find a lot of their artists. I think they just don't give a damn about screwing the independent labels over inadvertantly. Like the ant you step on and kill on the sidewalk...its not like you wanted to kill it, but you could care less.
Something I've been curious about: How many burns does your average CD-Burner do before dying? 500, 1000, 10000?
Also: do CDRs have a shelf-life before being burned? I think i heard somewhere that the die turns rigid after a few years and don't burn properly after that. I could be wrong tho.
isn't the human brain a data storage device?
hmm...better not start giving them ideas...
What if you can remember all the words to a song and even hum it to yourself every so often, i guess you are breaking the law cuz you aren't paying performance royalties and you are illegally storing elelments of the song in your brain...
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Yeah but they are total hypocrites. I went to the SONY store this past weekend and asked them when they were planning to release their portable mp3/cd walkman player here in Canada and they said they weren't because of piracy concerns. Meanwhile I am standing next to a huge display of SONY CDRs and there is an MP3/CD Boombox on the wall plus they are selling blank tapes and minidisc recorders?! Its bizarre where they draw the line: why is a CD/MP3 boombox ok but not a CD/MP3 walkman? I guess they figure kids who pirate music buy walkmans or some other twisted logic....and also wha do they think people are doing with their SONY CDRs???
Well here in Canada when they first annouced the CDR tax it was around 8 months in advance I think. So I guess you could just start hoarding CDRs. Drop a grand on some high quality ones and that should last you a lifetime...well it would last me a lifetime...plus you could sell off the excess on the black market or something.
In Canada our CDR's are taxed, but its small potatoes. So if it gets the Recording Industry off our backs a bit then I don't think its that big a deal personally. If I have to pay $2 or $3 for a CDR its still not that bad considering that a new CD costs around $18. I will agree that its unfair to those who burn data CDs or non-infringing AUDIO cds, but until the price rises above the $3 mark I am still happy.
Maybe its just my eyes playing tricks on me, but the colours seem more vibrant...the whites are whiter and the greens are greener. The whole look of the site seems to sparkle. Its probably just me. Is this banjo this only backend stuff?
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In it the God has given us a clear set of rules with which to live by. Anything and anyone who acts against these instructions is also acting against the God. Since God is Good, acting against him is Evil. Is the logic simple enough for you to see? Here's a bit of logic: you're an idiot.
Record companies distribute the money from records sales to ALL the atrists signed up to a label (in the form of advances on royalties, not the royalties themselves). Yeah, and I never said that that was not true. I am talking about this tax levy collected from CDR sales not the money made on album sales.
nah...the girl behind the counter said she agreed with me, plus she only works there, I am not gonna yell at someone when its really not their fault. I just said to her that it seemed funny that the SONY store would be the only electronics store in Canada NOT carrying this SONY product, as i have confirmed that a few other retailers will carry it...then I said that I would have liked to buy it there, but would now have to shop elsewhere. But I have placed a few calls to SONY MUSIC CANADA and SONY ELECTRONICS about this and sent a few emails...but most people I have talked to don't have a clue what I am talking about. "An mp3/cd player? What is that?"
Yeah, don't get me wrong, if i was in your position i'd be really pissed too...but i am not...so it doesn't really bug me...for the moment...
yeah indie musicians will get screwed by this. But with the internet, maybe online music delivery is a solution...no manufacturing costs whatsoever...and plenty of sites like mp3.com host for free.
Exept that most blank cd-r's have a shelf life of 2 years or so. i am not totaly sure why but when ever i have had say a spindle of 100 sitting around for about that amount of time they are almost all unburnable. yeah, i think i read somewhere that it has something to do with the dye going rigid after awhile...if someone has more info on this, please post. But also, these "spindles of 100" you are buying: are they some cheapo brand or a major label brand? The reason i ask is that the best cdr's I have ever used are Kodak Gold and have a bunch marked "1999" and work great still.
don't worry, you are never going to see a cent of it, that i can guarantee you. I would be surprised if it ever gets dispersed to artists, most likely it will go into the record company's pocket and stay there.
Cassettes cost more (and take longer) to manufacture than CDs, and yet CDs cost more...and always have...and the next format (digital downloads?)will cost even more...larger profit margins is the name of the game...that is why they will sell digital album downloads for $16 even though their is no manufacturing costs.... --
Too bad the money is probably all going to Celine Dion since there is no way to know what people ARE burning, they probbaly distribute based on sales...
yeah, except most of the tax is probably going to Celine Dion because there is no real way to know what people are burning, so they distribute based on sales, even though noone is probably burning Celine Dion! So that's where your tax dollars are going...
But isn't that what RIAA wants? They want to kill the competition, right?
I don't think that is necessarily the case. Indie music hardly puts a dent in their sales, and the indies are almost like the "farm team" for major labels, where they find a lot of their artists. I think they just don't give a damn about screwing the independent labels over inadvertantly. Like the ant you step on and kill on the sidewalk...its not like you wanted to kill it, but you could care less.
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Something I've been curious about: How many burns does your average CD-Burner do before dying? 500, 1000, 10000?
Also: do CDRs have a shelf-life before being burned? I think i heard somewhere that the die turns rigid after a few years and don't burn properly after that. I could be wrong tho.
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So you are saying that the US for once would be higher taxed than Canada? hmm...
(i am canadian by the way)
isn't the human brain a data storage device?
hmm...better not start giving them ideas...
What if you can remember all the words to a song and even hum it to yourself every so often, i guess you are breaking the law cuz you aren't paying performance royalties and you are illegally storing elelments of the song in your brain...
Yeah but they are total hypocrites. I went to the SONY store this past weekend and asked them when they were planning to release their portable mp3/cd walkman player here in Canada and they said they weren't because of piracy concerns. Meanwhile I am standing next to a huge display of SONY CDRs and there is an MP3/CD Boombox on the wall plus they are selling blank tapes and minidisc recorders?! Its bizarre where they draw the line: why is a CD/MP3 boombox ok but not a CD/MP3 walkman? I guess they figure kids who pirate music buy walkmans or some other twisted logic....and also wha do they think people are doing with their SONY CDRs???
Well here in Canada when they first annouced the CDR tax it was around 8 months in advance I think. So I guess you could just start hoarding CDRs. Drop a grand on some high quality ones and that should last you a lifetime...well it would last me a lifetime...plus you could sell off the excess on the black market or something.
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In Canada our CDR's are taxed, but its small potatoes. So if it gets the Recording Industry off our backs a bit then I don't think its that big a deal personally. If I have to pay $2 or $3 for a CDR its still not that bad considering that a new CD costs around $18. I will agree that its unfair to those who burn data CDs or non-infringing AUDIO cds, but until the price rises above the $3 mark I am still happy.
Maybe its just my eyes playing tricks on me, but the colours seem more vibrant...the whites are whiter and the greens are greener. The whole look of the site seems to sparkle. Its probably just me. Is this banjo this only backend stuff?