Re:foreboding sense? but what if the software's GO
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User support on Linux? Well, ignoring the multitude of virtual desktop and telnet utilities available which would make support as easy as "okay, it's fixed.", There's still nothing I can think of which would require anything from the command line. I've been able to completely configure my computer using the KDE control panel and the Mandrake control panel, including hardware.
On the other hand, I have doubts on your experience in user support based on your short example, and at this point, I also have doubts about your experience with linux on a GUI level. I use a machine like a regular user. I absolutely refuse to use a command prompt or terminal to configure anything -- I work on that all day long, I'm not going to come home and do it. Despite that choice, here I am, using Mandrake Linux 9.0 on my thinkpad. I haven't needed to open a terminal to configure anything yet.
Maybe when you're old enough that you can't afford to spend 300 dollars on an OS just to check it out, you'll realize that your posts are getting more trolly as we progress. Careful now, you won't change any opinions if you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is twelve years old.
That came off as kind of trolly, but I'll ignore that. Read again what he said; It destroyed it's own boot files.
Was it my fault when FAT16 would drop whole directories full of files for no reason?(hint:no.)
Re:All anti-MS, all the time
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Personally, I enjoy venting. You know that you can make it so Microsoft articles don't show up on the front page, right? With that in mind, let those of us who spend our days fixing Microsofts bugs vent.
Re:foreboding sense? but what if the software's GO
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Personally, I think it IS there. It's gotten to the point where any important software is incredibly easy to use, and the user never has to worry about the underlying mechanics.
For example, I use Ximian Evolution for my E-Mail right now. It's as easy as any other E-mail program I've ever used. the KDE file manager is as easy as Windows Explorer, with some features which make it even easier. OpenOffice looks close enough to Office to damn them both if OpenOffice isn't easy, and other tools like the Mandrake Control Panel, work better than the Windows Control Panel(IMHO) for accomplishing low level tasks, while apps like the KDE control panel are far superior to the Windows Control Panel for customizing the shell.
I'd say it's a pretty easy platform at this point. If you can learn how to do something in Windows, you can probably do it under Linux with equal ease.
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I'm afraid you are mistaken about the "mom" test. I've seen this proven time and time again, that for every Open Source "tar -xzvf", there is a Ximian Evolution. For every "./configure, make, make install", there is a krpm. For every lynx web browser, there is a K-Meleon. Your overgeneralization shows that you might not know quite as much knowlege on the subject as you'd like to believe(or rather, like us to believe).
Also, your logic is flawed between OSS projects and proprietary efforts like windows. Certainly ten years ago there might have been a problem with no funding and crappy UIs, but if you take your head out of the sand and look around, you'll realize that there are plenty of OpenOffice.orgs, TransGaming WineXs and Lindowses. Your arugement falls apart the second companies start backing (or creating) Open Source projects.
Integrating everything into the OS isn't really a new idea. They've been doing it with the web browser for years, and KDE has been doing something like that as well.
Of course, I don't nessessarily have to use KDE(I've been looking at Enlightenment lately because it feels so much different than anything else out there), whereas I'm pretty much forced to use Explorer to use MS' OS.
Just a point of interest, MS Service packs don't upgrade the media player, web browser, etc..., they update the base install. As a person who is forced to upgrade far too many Windows machines for my mental health, I know that even on windowsupdate.com, these are seperate updates from the service packs.
In this case, it would make the hitman resort to hitman tactics instead of script kiddie tactics. Besides which, it doesn't matter who breaks into a box -- if an important server(or even workstation) is compromised, it has been compromised. It helps if you don't have to worry about being killed in a carjacking while you're trying to figure out how to keep the hitman from getting you.
Isn't it ironic that some people equate Open source with communism, but they equate "ein volk, ein reich, ein windows!" with democracy, choice, and capitalism?
p.s. What is the link in your sig meant to do? I can see that it's an impossible IP address (for IPv4, at least), and when I click on it, I get an error(as I thought I would.)
If my arm or groin was removed in an accident, I don't think I'd have any problems donating them to science, providing they couldn't be sewn back on...
Re:I am sure I am not the only one bothered by thi
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Genetics aren't magic, they don't fling themselves at the nearest living creation --- a human would have to somehow aquire this disorder...and I don't see how the chimera effect could be obtained short of creating a chimera-human with a human embryo.
Tell me, do you try not to hang around parapalegics because you're afraid you might catch their deformity? Same idea here. The problems wouldn't be a problem with the mouses genetic structure, it would be a problem caused by having human cells injected into it when the embryo was forming.
With Linux 2.4, the internet will be faster!!!
j/k
User support on Linux? Well, ignoring the multitude of virtual desktop and telnet utilities available which would make support as easy as "okay, it's fixed.", There's still nothing I can think of which would require anything from the command line. I've been able to completely configure my computer using the KDE control panel and the Mandrake control panel, including hardware.
On the other hand, I have doubts on your experience in user support based on your short example, and at this point, I also have doubts about your experience with linux on a GUI level. I use a machine like a regular user. I absolutely refuse to use a command prompt or terminal to configure anything -- I work on that all day long, I'm not going to come home and do it. Despite that choice, here I am, using Mandrake Linux 9.0 on my thinkpad. I haven't needed to open a terminal to configure anything yet.
Fuck microsoft.
Maybe when you're old enough that you can't afford to spend 300 dollars on an OS just to check it out, you'll realize that your posts are getting more trolly as we progress. Careful now, you won't change any opinions if you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is twelve years old.
That came off as kind of trolly, but I'll ignore that. Read again what he said; It destroyed it's own boot files.
Was it my fault when FAT16 would drop whole directories full of files for no reason?(hint:no.)
Personally, I enjoy venting. You know that you can make it so Microsoft articles don't show up on the front page, right? With that in mind, let those of us who spend our days fixing Microsofts bugs vent.
Personally, I think it IS there. It's gotten to the point where any important software is incredibly easy to use, and the user never has to worry about the underlying mechanics.
For example, I use Ximian Evolution for my E-Mail right now. It's as easy as any other E-mail program I've ever used. the KDE file manager is as easy as Windows Explorer, with some features which make it even easier. OpenOffice looks close enough to Office to damn them both if OpenOffice isn't easy, and other tools like the Mandrake Control Panel, work better than the Windows Control Panel(IMHO) for accomplishing low level tasks, while apps like the KDE control panel are far superior to the Windows Control Panel for customizing the shell.
I'd say it's a pretty easy platform at this point. If you can learn how to do something in Windows, you can probably do it under Linux with equal ease.
I'm afraid you are mistaken about the "mom" test. I've seen this proven time and time again, that for every Open Source "tar -xzvf", there is a Ximian Evolution. For every "./configure, make, make install", there is a krpm. For every lynx web browser, there is a K-Meleon. Your overgeneralization shows that you might not know quite as much knowlege on the subject as you'd like to believe(or rather, like us to believe).
Also, your logic is flawed between OSS projects and proprietary efforts like windows. Certainly ten years ago there might have been a problem with no funding and crappy UIs, but if you take your head out of the sand and look around, you'll realize that there are plenty of OpenOffice.orgs, TransGaming WineXs and Lindowses. Your arugement falls apart the second companies start backing (or creating) Open Source projects.
BeOS will never die so long as there is evil in the hearts of men. :)
voice from the camera:Excuse me, I noticed you are writing a letter...
Integrating everything into the OS isn't really a new idea. They've been doing it with the web browser for years, and KDE has been doing something like that as well.
Of course, I don't nessessarily have to use KDE(I've been looking at Enlightenment lately because it feels so much different than anything else out there), whereas I'm pretty much forced to use Explorer to use MS' OS.
Are you a robot?
Just a point of interest, MS Service packs don't upgrade the media player, web browser, etc..., they update the base install. As a person who is forced to upgrade far too many Windows machines for my mental health, I know that even on windowsupdate.com, these are seperate updates from the service packs.
Every single major linux distribution I've tried in the last two years has had an update tool. Just use that.
In this case, it would make the hitman resort to hitman tactics instead of script kiddie tactics. Besides which, it doesn't matter who breaks into a box -- if an important server(or even workstation) is compromised, it has been compromised. It helps if you don't have to worry about being killed in a carjacking while you're trying to figure out how to keep the hitman from getting you.
Is this a common attitude at the DoD? If it is, I'll rest a little easier in spite of the efforts of microsoft.
Isn't it ironic that some people equate Open source with communism, but they equate "ein volk, ein reich, ein windows!" with democracy, choice, and capitalism?
p.s. What is the link in your sig meant to do? I can see that it's an impossible IP address (for IPv4, at least), and when I click on it, I get an error(as I thought I would.)
I'm truly shocked. I'm only 20, and I was able to point out iraq on the world atlas during the first war.
I was able to point out my own country on a map as well...Perhaps that 10% should be considered the margin of error?
'empowering people through great software...
What?
Where are they going to get that from?
If my arm or groin was removed in an accident, I don't think I'd have any problems donating them to science, providing they couldn't be sewn back on...
Genetics aren't magic, they don't fling themselves at the nearest living creation --- a human would have to somehow aquire this disorder...and I don't see how the chimera effect could be obtained short of creating a chimera-human with a human embryo.
Tell me, do you try not to hang around parapalegics because you're afraid you might catch their deformity? Same idea here. The problems wouldn't be a problem with the mouses genetic structure, it would be a problem caused by having human cells injected into it when the embryo was forming.
I think the only reason it's a problem is because the company is so danged *huge*! When all sources of media group together like that,
The world is a big place to be controlled by a few people.
If you can sell a computer with a razor thin margin and make money on support, why not software? IBM did both at one time, If I recall correctly.
(Oh, and no, I am not in any way affiliated with EMusic.com, just a customer)
It would seem that you are neither.