Good answer. I'm happy to see not everyone is jumping to the "but America is perfect and you're an asshole" bandwagon.
Seems to me a "soft amorality" then. They don't actively choose to not care about it, they simply don't have the information that'd let them have a strong moral stance for or against it.
Obviously it's a generalization, but it's a generalization that got the man who instituted this program into power twice.
Unfortunately, the Obama administration hasn't changed their opinion in the extraordinary rendition cases. The government will still be claiming they did nothing wrong in sending people to Syria to be tortured.
Moreover, there has been no massive public outcry against this practice. In fact, House member Dana Rohrabacher says he'll fight any attempt to end sending people to syria to be tortured, yet he still has his seat.
No. I'm sick of this shit. Your entire country gets caught up in a debate about whether torture is great or merely totally awesome.
Where were you supposedly moral people while that debate was going on? Why is Dana Rohrabacher, who joined the house in apologizing to one of the victims, "Sorry for sending you to Syria to be tortured for months, but I'll fight any attempt to stop the practice of sending people like you to Syria to be tortured" still in his house seat? Because people don't give a fuck about morality, the thought of kidnapping someone and throwing them on a plane to be tortured isn't a problem -- hence, amorality.
But it's one of the biggest news stories going in my country, and several others.
You may be sane and against this evil act, but the CIA agents who have kidnapped my people and thrown them onto a plane to be tortured in Syria were obviously ok with it. The chinese are still communists, even if Ping Zhao strongly believes in capitalism.
Generally speaking, those people aren't acting under the orders of the head of state.
And generally speaking, nearly everyone in this thread has jumped to America's defense. How moral can y'all be while you defend the CIA kidnapping someone, throwing them on a plane, and sending them to syria to be tortured?
The central point is that Foreigners from around the world have entered the United States then summarily been kidnapped by the CIA, and thrown on jets to countries that torture, then tortured. I'm not going to a country that does that to people. It might happen to me.
And look at these responses. You'd think throwing people on planes to be tortured for months is some great moral deed, the way people are going on about how great America is. How do you argue the amorality of a society while defending atrocities?
And the straw man is simply the statement your post supports("THANK YOU, I was hoping someone would say this"), that instead of not wanting to VISIT america, I really want to disregard everything about america, and therefore I am a hypocrite.
It's a straw man because one of the two is my opinion, and the thing the post you support attacked is not.
So when the CIA throws me on a plane to be tortured, I can just say "You know you're perpetuating a negative stereotype!" and they'll turn the plane around?
It's funny that you think "Don't worry, we're better than Darfur" is anything other than insanity.
I hear it so often, it's sad. You guys live in such a small world, where "We send people to Syria to be tortured for months or years" is actually ok because Rwanda is worse. You know, in the rest of the world, sending someone to syria to be tortured for months or years is actually a heinous atrocity.
I'm still dissapointed with the motorcycle game. There was an insane amount of potential there for a really fun game, but after doing the tutorials 10 times each, I couldn't do the moves they were asking me to do.
Easy to learn, tough to master. Those guys need to learn it.
I should mention, the CD medium IS digital. There's either something there reflecting the signal back, or there isn't. Exists/doesn't exist is about as digital as you get.
Not that I'm a piracy advocate, but you need to get out of this "They can afford it, they make lots of money" mindset.
Automotive manufacturers use this mindset, and try to sell me a $50,000 truck that'll take 10 years to pay off(I don't buy). Housing producers use this mindset, and try to sell me million dollar houses(I don't buy). Sony tried this mindset, and were blown out of the market with their $750 ps3(I don't buy).
Personally, my psychological price point for games is $10-$30. Almost all the games I've bought in the past year have been there. $60 isn't a lot of money for me, but I'm not willing to pay that on a game. In fact, I saw a game I really wanted here for $70, and even though I really wanted it, I didn't buy it because that's a lot of money. I found it for $30, and I bought it without even thinking about it.
You developers are pricing yourselves out of the market, then using DRM to make legitimate users think twice about whether you're going to hack their computers or disable their software. With a bit more common sense, I think the game industry would be a lot bigger than it is now, and piracy would be a much smaller problem.
Yeah, 4 of the 5 games I got on steam through their indie bundle last weekend were horrible. I never would've paid for them.
(The puzzle game was good, but the insanely finicky motorcycle game, the RTS based more on luck than skill, the pretty but vapid 'drop of water' game, and the flash game pretending to be a real boy were all worth less than the 2.00 I paid for them)
Yeah, next time I go to the US (I don't, because Americans are terrifying and amoral bastards who send foreigners to Syria to be tortured for months or years), I'll have to plead the fifth when they ask anything. "Sorry, going to have to plead the fifth on this one, because a court opinion shows that if I don't plead it now, I won't get another chance."
Your DAC either registers a 1 or it registers a 0. As long as your equipment is registering the correct bits, it doesn't matter that you spent $5 or $500 on the cable.
You appear mistaken. Part of the redbook audio CD standard is error correction in a mathematical sense(correct digital values, not just reasonable degradation).
Gold would actually make sense for a CD you wanted to last indefinitely, because gold is extremely non-reactive, and wouldn't oxidize.
That said, it's only one half of the equation. the plastic part of the CD would have to be replaced with something with a long life, because it doesn't matter if your data is there if you can't see it anymore.
It would only be cost effective if the price of these new CDs was the same as regular CDs, because the cost of replacing a CD player is tiny compared to the cost of replacing your audio collection with more expensive disks. If that were the case, there'd be no business case for Sony to bring this technology.
The stated reason is more accurate CDs, but I think you've got it.
I mean, I don't know about you, but I've never had a problem with CDs being unreadable from the store(though some hack-job magazine CDs didn't last very long). I've been using CDs for at least 15 years. What problem is this technology solving?
I hadn't think about the price fixing scandals, but maybe. Perhaps we'll see regular CDs drop to 8 bucks, and these new (identical) cds priced at 20-30 bucks.
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Good answer. I'm happy to see not everyone is jumping to the "but America is perfect and you're an asshole" bandwagon.
Seems to me a "soft amorality" then. They don't actively choose to not care about it, they simply don't have the information that'd let them have a strong moral stance for or against it.
Obviously it's a generalization, but it's a generalization that got the man who instituted this program into power twice.
Unfortunately, the Obama administration hasn't changed their opinion in the extraordinary rendition cases. The government will still be claiming they did nothing wrong in sending people to Syria to be tortured.
Moreover, there has been no massive public outcry against this practice. In fact, House member Dana Rohrabacher says he'll fight any attempt to end sending people to syria to be tortured, yet he still has his seat.
Because nobody gives a fuck.
That's amorality.
Ah, so you don't like the way I'm saying something so God Bless America, we can send as many foreigners to Syria as we please thank you very much?
No. I'm sick of this shit. Your entire country gets caught up in a debate about whether torture is great or merely totally awesome.
Where were you supposedly moral people while that debate was going on? Why is Dana Rohrabacher, who joined the house in apologizing to one of the victims, "Sorry for sending you to Syria to be tortured for months, but I'll fight any attempt to stop the practice of sending people like you to Syria to be tortured" still in his house seat? Because people don't give a fuck about morality, the thought of kidnapping someone and throwing them on a plane to be tortured isn't a problem -- hence, amorality.
Here's an example link
But it's one of the biggest news stories going in my country, and several others.
You may be sane and against this evil act, but the CIA agents who have kidnapped my people and thrown them onto a plane to be tortured in Syria were obviously ok with it. The chinese are still communists, even if Ping Zhao strongly believes in capitalism.
Generally speaking, those people aren't acting under the orders of the head of state.
And generally speaking, nearly everyone in this thread has jumped to America's defense. How moral can y'all be while you defend the CIA kidnapping someone, throwing them on a plane, and sending them to syria to be tortured?
The central point is that Foreigners from around the world have entered the United States then summarily been kidnapped by the CIA, and thrown on jets to countries that torture, then tortured. I'm not going to a country that does that to people. It might happen to me.
And look at these responses. You'd think throwing people on planes to be tortured for months is some great moral deed, the way people are going on about how great America is. How do you argue the amorality of a society while defending atrocities?
And the straw man is simply the statement your post supports("THANK YOU, I was hoping someone would say this"), that instead of not wanting to VISIT america, I really want to disregard everything about america, and therefore I am a hypocrite.
It's a straw man because one of the two is my opinion, and the thing the post you support attacked is not.
So when the CIA throws me on a plane to be tortured, I can just say "You know you're perpetuating a negative stereotype!" and they'll turn the plane around?
Exactly. You want more of my money for less of your work.
At least we can agree on that.
It's funny that you think "Don't worry, we're better than Darfur" is anything other than insanity.
I hear it so often, it's sad. You guys live in such a small world, where "We send people to Syria to be tortured for months or years" is actually ok because Rwanda is worse. You know, in the rest of the world, sending someone to syria to be tortured for months or years is actually a heinous atrocity.
You're both idiots.
If I don't step foot in your insane country, how can Homeland security agents throw me on a plane to syria, as you've done to my countrymen?
No, your little strawmen are very pretty, but utterly meaningless. I don't need to live in a shell to not get put on a plane and sent to Syria.
I'm still dissapointed with the motorcycle game. There was an insane amount of potential there for a really fun game, but after doing the tutorials 10 times each, I couldn't do the moves they were asking me to do.
Easy to learn, tough to master. Those guys need to learn it.
I should mention, the CD medium IS digital. There's either something there reflecting the signal back, or there isn't. Exists/doesn't exist is about as digital as you get.
Not that I'm a piracy advocate, but you need to get out of this "They can afford it, they make lots of money" mindset.
Automotive manufacturers use this mindset, and try to sell me a $50,000 truck that'll take 10 years to pay off(I don't buy). Housing producers use this mindset, and try to sell me million dollar houses(I don't buy). Sony tried this mindset, and were blown out of the market with their $750 ps3(I don't buy).
Personally, my psychological price point for games is $10-$30. Almost all the games I've bought in the past year have been there. $60 isn't a lot of money for me, but I'm not willing to pay that on a game. In fact, I saw a game I really wanted here for $70, and even though I really wanted it, I didn't buy it because that's a lot of money. I found it for $30, and I bought it without even thinking about it.
You developers are pricing yourselves out of the market, then using DRM to make legitimate users think twice about whether you're going to hack their computers or disable their software. With a bit more common sense, I think the game industry would be a lot bigger than it is now, and piracy would be a much smaller problem.
Yeah, 4 of the 5 games I got on steam through their indie bundle last weekend were horrible. I never would've paid for them.
(The puzzle game was good, but the insanely finicky motorcycle game, the RTS based more on luck than skill, the pretty but vapid 'drop of water' game, and the flash game pretending to be a real boy were all worth less than the 2.00 I paid for them)
Yeah, next time I go to the US (I don't, because Americans are terrifying and amoral bastards who send foreigners to Syria to be tortured for months or years), I'll have to plead the fifth when they ask anything. "Sorry, going to have to plead the fifth on this one, because a court opinion shows that if I don't plead it now, I won't get another chance."
Your DAC either registers a 1 or it registers a 0. As long as your equipment is registering the correct bits, it doesn't matter that you spent $5 or $500 on the cable.
You appear mistaken. Part of the redbook audio CD standard is error correction in a mathematical sense(correct digital values, not just reasonable degradation).
I need a source on this. As far as I've ever been told, digital data is digital data.
Gold would actually make sense for a CD you wanted to last indefinitely, because gold is extremely non-reactive, and wouldn't oxidize.
That said, it's only one half of the equation. the plastic part of the CD would have to be replaced with something with a long life, because it doesn't matter if your data is there if you can't see it anymore.
I verify it by the fact that Windows and linux boot.
There's no difference between the audio CD and the one with data. That's the point of an audio CD.
It would only be cost effective if the price of these new CDs was the same as regular CDs, because the cost of replacing a CD player is tiny compared to the cost of replacing your audio collection with more expensive disks. If that were the case, there'd be no business case for Sony to bring this technology.
I don't know about you, but neither my Windows CD nor my linux CD have any problems reading with lossless precision.
The stated reason is more accurate CDs, but I think you've got it.
I mean, I don't know about you, but I've never had a problem with CDs being unreadable from the store(though some hack-job magazine CDs didn't last very long). I've been using CDs for at least 15 years. What problem is this technology solving?
I hadn't think about the price fixing scandals, but maybe. Perhaps we'll see regular CDs drop to 8 bucks, and these new (identical) cds priced at 20-30 bucks.
You can use high intensity laser diodes in engines instead of spark plugs. Sure, it's more expensive and doesn't have any benefit, but it's NEWER!