You failed right away. It doesn't matter if the person fucking with your destiny calls himself a Democrat or a Republican or a Mooninite, or a Jesuit. The fact that you didn't realise that right away says that their mock battles are succeeding in distracting you from reality.
It's your own fault for wasting so much time on the idiot box. Hell, I only heard about it once on the radio. I laughed because the girl was like "We're the future leaders of America!", which is just silly, for a variety of reasons I won't get into. Haven't heard about it since...Until you decided to make a big issue of it.
If that's the case, I wouldn't actually want that in a site I spend money on. I want to verify everything at least once per transaction so I know it'll be billed to an account that exists and will be sent somewhere that I happen to be.
The supreme court put Bush in power, silly. Why do you think we're such good allies with military dictoator General Pervez Musharraf? Birds of a feather, that's why.
What are you saying? When a publicly funded organization proves to be incompetent, it's only logical to make them unaccountable to anyone too!That's the way democracy ought to work!
You may be right, but you shouldn't have +5 for it. You're just being a smug ass assuming that because the person doesn't say what "something strange going on" is, he doesn't know.
Ah! We have Nietzsche fan! Lovely! It would take one of his disciples to be so in love with verbose and ornate language while so foreign to the concept of communication.
You manage to emulate his style admirably: In three paragraphs, you write what some could say in two words. Likewise, Nietzsche has had 14 books translated to English, yet still hasn't managed to get his point across.
Happily, your perception of reality is mistaken. If society crumbles, it just means I'll be even more useful than I already am.
Ah, I never would have guessed. I saw the article, but didn't read too deeply. Shame, the things you could do with a clear version of portland cement would probably change just about every industry in the world.
I agree completely. The internal combustion engine and a liquid fuel is the only way we're going to actually be able to implement anything. It's a wonderful dream to think that someday you'll replace all those 40 year old cars and trucks that still use good old petrol, but the reality of the matter is that only the richest 1% of the richest populations could possibly afford what passes for a semi-usable EV these days(Wow! 92,000USD for a tesla roadster? Why not just spend 90,000 on carbon credits and drive a beat up old cavelier? You'll be carbon neutral for the rest of your life!). On the other hand, just about everyone owns a car, and that car can burn gaslike substances, so it makes sense to take all the infastructure that exists and turn it into something that can inexpensively put people into green territory.
I like my truck. It's an old beater, but you know what? In -40, it got me to work. Every time.
You know, I don't often comment on writing style, but either use complete punctuation and proper spelling and write like you're an intellectual, or take it hard and loose with the punctuation and spelling and write like an ancient. Both are acceptable, but mixing and matching is just causing me cognitive dissonance.
You'll still sound like a lobbyist doing an interview for a bad documentary, but at least you'll look the part.
One thing that most people don't notice, these electric cars are 'greener' by neccessity, because A) you can't go nearly as far on a charge in the latest and greatest 92kUSD monstrosity that seats 2 and has no storage space to speak of as you can in a 20 year old truck on a tank of gas, and B) these things HAVE to be more efficient because they store about a gallon of gas worth of energy. Even if you're burning something twice as polluting, you're much better off. Of course, you're inconvenienced as hell, and you're driving a vehicle with no balls that can't make it to the next town(and before anyone says anything, for $92k, I'm buying a chinese boy to rickshaw me around), but you ARE greener.
I sort of wonder about that number of charges and what it actually means. The thing I'm looking at is we've got regenerative braking, and I wonder what that up and down does to the ultracap (or the battery) over time.
Lithium Ion Batteries: Battery specifications Energy/weight 160 Wh/kg Energy/size 270 Wh/L Power/weight 1800 W/kg Charge/discharge efficiency 99.9%[1] Energy/consumer-price 2.8 Wh/US$ Self-discharge rate 5%-10%/month Time durability (24-36) months Cycle durability 1200 cycles Nominal Cell Voltage 3.6 V Charge temperature interval
Nickel Metal Hydride batteries
Battery specifications Energy/weight 30-80 Wh/kg Energy/size 140-300 Wh/L Power/weight 250-1000 W/kg Charge/discharge efficiency 66% [1] Energy/consumer-price 1.37 Wh/US$ [2] Self-discharge rate 30%/month (temperature dependant) Time durability many years Cycle durability 500-1000 Nominal Cell Voltage 1.2 V Charge temperature interval
Science wins! NIMH batteries are inferior to LI-ION in almost all areas, they wouldn't fix the important problems inherent with LI-ION batteries in cars. They ARE cheaper, but the major issue with EVs isn't really cost, because the practicallity is so low right now because the energy density of a battery is so limited. Also, NIMH batteries have a very limited lifespan if deep-cycled(About half of LI-ION, which kills the price advantage). This is just another conspiracy theory by arts students who think that if you say something that sounds scientific and anti-establishment it becomes true.
The Tesla Roadster is $92,000USD base. That alone puts it far out of even the price range I consider ridiculous for basic transportation, $50,000(That's the cost of a worn, but livable, house). This car, worth $92,000, won't get me to Winnipeg, in the same province I'm in, unless I make it a two day trip. It will require new batteries, even conservatively, within 5 years(So you've got $20,000 in batteries amortized over 5 years, so you're paying $4,000/yr of hazardous chemicals ripped from the earth just like petrol to go along with your $18,000/yr, $1000/mo car payments).
This is not a practical vehicle.
Just as a point of comparison, if I walked to the local chevy dealership, I'd be able to pick up a new Aveo for about 10,000USD base. The Aveo (Like my 1985 Bronco II), will get me to Winnipeg on a single tank of gas, whose cost for the Aveo will be about 30 dollars(so you could make the trip back and forth every week all year for the cost of battery replacement, before taking into account charging costs. Do it every two weeks, and you could buy the carbon credits to make your vehicle carbon neutral). Furthermore, the Bronco and the Aveo don't lose significant amounts of range in -40C(On the contrary, the thermodynamics involved mean that the engine will run most efficiently when the dense, cold air is heated with the full energy of the gasoline). Guess what a dozen or two kWh of battery power will do, especially when you're running a heater?
The cars I looked at, actual electric cars, wouldn't get me to the next town -- 90 miles was the range for GMs EV1 leases which were recalled. Any conversion of an actual vehicle was much less. I saw a Porsche 911 converted with about 20kWH of battery power which would get about 20 miles. I saw a TR-7 which got about 30.
That's the tech I was referring to. From the looks of things, if that tech could become good enough, it would represent a power source which would have an effective life as long as the vehicle itself(About 10 years, according to one manufacturer of flywheel UPS systems), could be measured exactly in terms of remaining energy, and would represent a fairly simple to contain energy source in the event of an accident(Compare flying flywheel dust to LI-ION battery or gasoline explosion).
Really, this isn't crazyhippyconspiracytheoristdot.org(They'll believe in ANY tech, no matter how badly it is disproven by the laws of physics), it's slashdot. The grandparent should have at least assumed I'd done SOME sort of fact checking before I mentioned it.
I agree with you, but the other side of the coin is that we really need batteries with higher energy density before electric cars actually become practical. Sure, you can propel a vehicle forward for a distance right now, but Paying 50k for a car whose batteries will only last 2 years, whose distance won't get a lot of people to the next town, and which is completely incapable of being refuelled quickly simply isn't practical.
And before anyone gives me any "You could have replacable battery packs! You could have it so you just replace the packs at the gas station and they throw out the used ones!" pipe dreams, that'd need way more brand new infastructure than converting to most other brand new fuels. Some of the gas station attendants I've met are hardasses, but very few of them could swap out 500 pounds of batteries without special equipment to take it out of storage to the vehicle, take out the old battery, install the new battery, then take the old battery back to storage. Then there's the question of who, exactly, pays the $20,000 to replace a battery pack when it dies. The gas station? Good luck with your $30,000 fuel-ups.
Have you looked into flywheel energy storage tech? I've only looked briefly, but it seems that you can store an awful lot of energy in them, they pretty much remain capable of holding the same charge for about 10 years, and modern designs are relatively safe considering the energy stored. It seems to me the most compatible energy storage tech for EVs.
Our primary goal is the education of our children. Well, our PRIMARY goal is making sure we don't get made fun of by the children. Also, our primary goal is making sure we keep guns and knives away from our children. Actually, our PRIMARY goal is making sure the children aren't having 'freaky' sex. Well, our PRIMARY goal is to collect a paycheque on the taxpayers kids dime.
Ok, so our primary goals are:
Collecting a paycheque on the taxpayers dime Making sure we don't make fun of by the children Making sure the children aren't having 'freaky' sex Keeping guns and knives away from our children
And our secondary goal would be the education of our children. Well....Your children. I hate children. I hate children.
I'd say that a state ought to limit the activities of school officials to activities which actually take place on school grounds. It's really not kosher letting school officials be these Judge Dredd style judge, jury, and executioners.
The US is in a crisis right now exactly because of stuff like this. Sure, it's not important when some kids gets expelled for a blog a principal doesn't like(Really, Galileo had it coming too), but stuff like zero tolerance laws which force school officials to destroy anyone who even comes close to breaking a rule, or kids being put through dehumanizing Desexualisation programs based on discredited procedures designed to 'cure' homosexuals in the 1930s, we're starting to talk about some heavy shit. Kids need to start getting some rights, because right now, they're being pissed on.
Of course, this is coming from the generation that has run the debt so high that officials are saying that the country will have to go bankrupt in our children's lifetimes, so shitting on kids in the name of protecting them is par for the course.
Erm...You guys do that. Often enough that it's actually a serious issue in my country, where you can't necessarily trust that you won't get sent to some secret prison in Europe to be tortured when you cross that border. Hell, you sent a bunch of our boys off to some countries run by very mean people who torture people to death because it was Tuesday.
Americans need to wake up to just how mean and nasty they actually are to foreigners.
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You failed right away. It doesn't matter if the person fucking with your destiny calls himself a Democrat or a Republican or a Mooninite, or a Jesuit. The fact that you didn't realise that right away says that their mock battles are succeeding in distracting you from reality.
It's your own fault for wasting so much time on the idiot box. Hell, I only heard about it once on the radio. I laughed because the girl was like "We're the future leaders of America!", which is just silly, for a variety of reasons I won't get into. Haven't heard about it since...Until you decided to make a big issue of it.
If that's the case, I wouldn't actually want that in a site I spend money on. I want to verify everything at least once per transaction so I know it'll be billed to an account that exists and will be sent somewhere that I happen to be.
If Chewbacca is from Endor, you must acquit!
The supreme court put Bush in power, silly. Why do you think we're such good allies with military dictoator General Pervez Musharraf? Birds of a feather, that's why.
What are you saying? When a publicly funded organization proves to be incompetent, it's only logical to make them unaccountable to anyone too!That's the way democracy ought to work!
You may be right, but you shouldn't have +5 for it. You're just being a smug ass assuming that because the person doesn't say what "something strange going on" is, he doesn't know.
Pickup trucks!
It's surprising how well that actually works.
Ah! We have Nietzsche fan! Lovely! It would take one of his disciples to be so in love with verbose and ornate language while so foreign to the concept of communication.
You manage to emulate his style admirably: In three paragraphs, you write what some could say in two words. Likewise, Nietzsche has had 14 books translated to English, yet still hasn't managed to get his point across.
Happily, your perception of reality is mistaken. If society crumbles, it just means I'll be even more useful than I already am.
Ah, I never would have guessed. I saw the article, but didn't read too deeply. Shame, the things you could do with a clear version of portland cement would probably change just about every industry in the world.
I agree completely. The internal combustion engine and a liquid fuel is the only way we're going to actually be able to implement anything. It's a wonderful dream to think that someday you'll replace all those 40 year old cars and trucks that still use good old petrol, but the reality of the matter is that only the richest 1% of the richest populations could possibly afford what passes for a semi-usable EV these days(Wow! 92,000USD for a tesla roadster? Why not just spend 90,000 on carbon credits and drive a beat up old cavelier? You'll be carbon neutral for the rest of your life!). On the other hand, just about everyone owns a car, and that car can burn gaslike substances, so it makes sense to take all the infastructure that exists and turn it into something that can inexpensively put people into green territory.
I like my truck. It's an old beater, but you know what? In -40, it got me to work. Every time.
You know, I don't often comment on writing style, but either use complete punctuation and proper spelling and write like you're an intellectual, or take it hard and loose with the punctuation and spelling and write like an ancient. Both are acceptable, but mixing and matching is just causing me cognitive dissonance.
You'll still sound like a lobbyist doing an interview for a bad documentary, but at least you'll look the part.
One thing that most people don't notice, these electric cars are 'greener' by neccessity, because A) you can't go nearly as far on a charge in the latest and greatest 92kUSD monstrosity that seats 2 and has no storage space to speak of as you can in a 20 year old truck on a tank of gas, and B) these things HAVE to be more efficient because they store about a gallon of gas worth of energy. Even if you're burning something twice as polluting, you're much better off. Of course, you're inconvenienced as hell, and you're driving a vehicle with no balls that can't make it to the next town(and before anyone says anything, for $92k, I'm buying a chinese boy to rickshaw me around), but you ARE greener.
I sort of wonder about that number of charges and what it actually means. The thing I'm looking at is we've got regenerative braking, and I wonder what that up and down does to the ultracap (or the battery) over time.
What we need more of is science.
Statistics from Wikipedia
Lithium Ion Batteries:
Battery specifications
Energy/weight 160 Wh/kg
Energy/size 270 Wh/L
Power/weight 1800 W/kg
Charge/discharge efficiency 99.9%[1]
Energy/consumer-price 2.8 Wh/US$
Self-discharge rate 5%-10%/month
Time durability (24-36) months
Cycle durability 1200 cycles
Nominal Cell Voltage 3.6 V
Charge temperature interval
Nickel Metal Hydride batteries
Battery specifications
Energy/weight 30-80 Wh/kg
Energy/size 140-300 Wh/L
Power/weight 250-1000 W/kg
Charge/discharge efficiency 66% [1]
Energy/consumer-price 1.37 Wh/US$ [2]
Self-discharge rate 30%/month (temperature dependant)
Time durability many years
Cycle durability 500-1000
Nominal Cell Voltage 1.2 V
Charge temperature interval
Science wins! NIMH batteries are inferior to LI-ION in almost all areas, they wouldn't fix the important problems inherent with LI-ION batteries in cars. They ARE cheaper, but the major issue with EVs isn't really cost, because the practicallity is so low right now because the energy density of a battery is so limited. Also, NIMH batteries have a very limited lifespan if deep-cycled(About half of LI-ION, which kills the price advantage). This is just another conspiracy theory by arts students who think that if you say something that sounds scientific and anti-establishment it becomes true.
The Tesla Roadster is $92,000USD base. That alone puts it far out of even the price range I consider ridiculous for basic transportation, $50,000(That's the cost of a worn, but livable, house). This car, worth $92,000, won't get me to Winnipeg, in the same province I'm in, unless I make it a two day trip. It will require new batteries, even conservatively, within 5 years(So you've got $20,000 in batteries amortized over 5 years, so you're paying $4,000/yr of hazardous chemicals ripped from the earth just like petrol to go along with your $18,000/yr, $1000/mo car payments).
This is not a practical vehicle.
Just as a point of comparison, if I walked to the local chevy dealership, I'd be able to pick up a new Aveo for about 10,000USD base. The Aveo (Like my 1985 Bronco II), will get me to Winnipeg on a single tank of gas, whose cost for the Aveo will be about 30 dollars(so you could make the trip back and forth every week all year for the cost of battery replacement, before taking into account charging costs. Do it every two weeks, and you could buy the carbon credits to make your vehicle carbon neutral). Furthermore, the Bronco and the Aveo don't lose significant amounts of range in -40C(On the contrary, the thermodynamics involved mean that the engine will run most efficiently when the dense, cold air is heated with the full energy of the gasoline). Guess what a dozen or two kWh of battery power will do, especially when you're running a heater?
The cars I looked at, actual electric cars, wouldn't get me to the next town -- 90 miles was the range for GMs EV1 leases which were recalled. Any conversion of an actual vehicle was much less. I saw a Porsche 911 converted with about 20kWH of battery power which would get about 20 miles. I saw a TR-7 which got about 30.
That's the tech I was referring to. From the looks of things, if that tech could become good enough, it would represent a power source which would have an effective life as long as the vehicle itself(About 10 years, according to one manufacturer of flywheel UPS systems), could be measured exactly in terms of remaining energy, and would represent a fairly simple to contain energy source in the event of an accident(Compare flying flywheel dust to LI-ION battery or gasoline explosion).
Really, this isn't crazyhippyconspiracytheoristdot.org(They'll believe in ANY tech, no matter how badly it is disproven by the laws of physics), it's slashdot. The grandparent should have at least assumed I'd done SOME sort of fact checking before I mentioned it.
as a visitor to the US, you have the same basic rights as any other individual ...becomes...
Obviously there is a difference
Trolling. Yes. I'm the one that's trolling.
I agree with you, but the other side of the coin is that we really need batteries with higher energy density before electric cars actually become practical. Sure, you can propel a vehicle forward for a distance right now, but Paying 50k for a car whose batteries will only last 2 years, whose distance won't get a lot of people to the next town, and which is completely incapable of being refuelled quickly simply isn't practical.
And before anyone gives me any "You could have replacable battery packs! You could have it so you just replace the packs at the gas station and they throw out the used ones!" pipe dreams, that'd need way more brand new infastructure than converting to most other brand new fuels. Some of the gas station attendants I've met are hardasses, but very few of them could swap out 500 pounds of batteries without special equipment to take it out of storage to the vehicle, take out the old battery, install the new battery, then take the old battery back to storage. Then there's the question of who, exactly, pays the $20,000 to replace a battery pack when it dies. The gas station? Good luck with your $30,000 fuel-ups.
Have you looked into flywheel energy storage tech? I've only looked briefly, but it seems that you can store an awful lot of energy in them, they pretty much remain capable of holding the same charge for about 10 years, and modern designs are relatively safe considering the energy stored. It seems to me the most compatible energy storage tech for EVs.
Our primary goal is the education of our children. Well, our PRIMARY goal is making sure we don't get made fun of by the children. Also, our primary goal is making sure we keep guns and knives away from our children. Actually, our PRIMARY goal is making sure the children aren't having 'freaky' sex. Well, our PRIMARY goal is to collect a paycheque on the taxpayers kids dime.
Ok, so our primary goals are:
Collecting a paycheque on the taxpayers dime
Making sure we don't make fun of by the children
Making sure the children aren't having 'freaky' sex
Keeping guns and knives away from our children
And our secondary goal would be the education of our children. Well....Your children. I hate children. I hate children.
So being shipped off to a secret prison to be tortured without a trial is a fundamental right of any American?
Second link failed (oops?), it was to This site, which details the desexualization process.
Very orwellian. You love big brother, right?
I'd say that a state ought to limit the activities of school officials to activities which actually take place on school grounds. It's really not kosher letting school officials be these Judge Dredd style judge, jury, and executioners.
The US is in a crisis right now exactly because of stuff like this. Sure, it's not important when some kids gets expelled for a blog a principal doesn't like(Really, Galileo had it coming too), but stuff like zero tolerance laws which force school officials to destroy anyone who even comes close to breaking a rule, or kids being put through dehumanizing Desexualisation programs based on discredited procedures designed to 'cure' homosexuals in the 1930s, we're starting to talk about some heavy shit. Kids need to start getting some rights, because right now, they're being pissed on.
Of course, this is coming from the generation that has run the debt so high that officials are saying that the country will have to go bankrupt in our children's lifetimes, so shitting on kids in the name of protecting them is par for the course.
Erm...You guys do that. Often enough that it's actually a serious issue in my country, where you can't necessarily trust that you won't get sent to some secret prison in Europe to be tortured when you cross that border. Hell, you sent a bunch of our boys off to some countries run by very mean people who torture people to death because it was Tuesday.
Americans need to wake up to just how mean and nasty they actually are to foreigners.