In the article they said something about devices that will respond to instructions embedded in the film. Here are the proposed specifications for a byte called 'SSSCA_DRM' to be put at the start of all files and media by law
Bit Description 1st Disable copying of this data 2nd Disable re-booting while media is in drive 3rd Disable ejecting of media from drive 4th Enable tamper-protection - send GPS position to CIA if device is opened 5th Destroy media in drive 6th Destroy drive 7th Destroy device 8th Destroy user
to combat this system simply: SSSCA_DRM = binary '00000000'
I propose a 9th bit: Destroy Bush, SSSCA_DRM = binary '000000001'
Yeah, i mean, at least in England, they don't strap people into chairs and gas/electrocute them. Also, they don't arrest you for quoting DeCSS. And oddly enough flag-burning is legal. But the only problem is they drive on the wrong side of the road (they claim its something about people being right-handed and changing gear...) weird:)
"...computers and video devices must be prepared to react to instructions embedded in the film..."
No, they absolutely must not. Devices i own in my home will do what i say and nothing else. They will answer to me and only me. I've had enough of this with DVD (They can decide what you can fast-forward through for gods sake). Any system that relies on this is completely flawed and anyone who designs it is a fool. I don't know why people allowed DVD to get away with this but the general public sure as hell better not let anything else like this through. It goes against the entire Open Source philosophy.
BTW I just had a comment deleted for threats against the president of the USA. I hope threatening the President of the MPAA is still legal, cause i want to kill him;) (slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=302334 1)
I just had a comment deleted for threats against the president of the USA. I hope threatening the President of the MPAA is still legal, cause i want to kill him;)
"...computers and video devices must be prepared to react to instructions embedded in the film..."
No, they absolutely must not. Devices i own in my home will do what i say and nothing else. They will answer to me and only me. I've had enough of this with DVD (They can decide what you can fast-forward through for gods sake). Any system that relies on this is completely flawed and anyone who designs it is a fool. I don't know why people allowed DVD to get away with this but the general public sure as hell better not let anything else like this through. It goes against the entire Open Source philosophy.
"Someone will kill G.W.Bush" is fine, but: "I will kill G.W.Bush" is not ok. were talking about 7 ASCII characters here, does writing a 56-bit pattern mean i should go to jail? what a messed up country.
I'd much rather say "President Bush is a pig-fucker (i.e a person that is involved with sexual activities with pigs) and should burn in the fires of hell for crimes against pigs. And also note that he is not worthy of running a BurgerKing(tm) much less a country."
If the SS has bothered to contact slashdot about my comments, then they have too much time on their hands (especially since they should be investigating that terrible pretzel incident)
Now this interests me allot. I posted the 'threat' from my account. So all they have on me is my username (and maybe some email address that i probably registered on yahoo or hotmail or something. My account name is part of my real name, but i'm sure there are many people with that same name. How much evidence would they need in order to arrest me (I am in one of the locations you mentioned). and what could they do with me. I hardly think a few comments on an internet forum warrents a jail term, or even police time. If it does, then America is more of a repressive socialist dictatorship than i thought.
I don't live in America, so no i haven't had any visits from the MIB. If i did live there, my home would have been searched already (do a search on google, this has happened before).
It would be kinda cool to have a warrent in America though... knowing that if i ever went there my airline tickets would be flagged by the CIA and i would have a nice escort waiting for me... oh well, maybe i could do some DMCA violations or something..
If i was going to kill the president, i would either a) not tell anyone and decrease the chances of being arrested before completing the task. or b) tell the world, and make it very clear that i was serious.
If the government deleted this threat, surely it would be as if they psychologically believed censoring a threat would make that threat null.
I wonder how they search 10000's of sites looking for obscure threats.. oh yeah, probably the same way they record all your emails and phone calls lol:)
The slashdot FAQ and real life differ. Since slashdot is hosted in the United States, they are subject to US law. As we all know, the US isn't exactly the holy grail when it comes to free speech. Slashdot has therefore been _forced_ to actually remove comments because of what is effectively censorship laws. As far as i know its happened twice because of the DMCA, and once because of a threat (in jest) to the president of America. I know this, because I posted that last one, (3 seperate comments) and they were deleted a couple of days ago:
I've only ever seen slashdot remove comments from its site twice, both DMCA related. So the other day i was surprised to find 3 of my comments deleted, and replaced with an explination which said:
"This comment has been removed since it was clearly in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 871 (Threats Against The President) and / or Section 875 (Interstate Communications: Extortions / Threats). You can Read More Here. We're sorry to have to do this, and while we don't necessarily agree with this, it is still the law. When the Secret Service gets involved, we don't have many options. We appreciate your understanding in the matter. Please call (202) 406-5000 if you have any questions."
slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=3023341 Now, don't get me wrong, its not/.'s fault. Its that ****ing pig-****er Bush's fault. I'm gonna **** that ****. Ok, i can understand why a threat to the president of America could be dangerous - the secret service need to know whats going on. But why censor it? is that not protected speech?
Let me put it another way: If i throw a brick through the whitehouse window saying "Die Bush" on it. That is a threat to be taken seriously. I would be a threat, i should be arrested. Now, if, i write an comment on a web site a thousend miles away, that tells people what i think of a certain someone, it is my right to free speech.
...on behalf of slashdot.org, who had to remove my comments (3 of them) for violating US law. Its nice to know, that the American government, like China, also doesn't like people saying bad things about their politicians. Ahh, America, truly the land of the free
have a look: (the troll rating i deserved): http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28 127&cid=3023 341
"This comment has been removed since it was clearly in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 871 (Threats Against The President) and / or Section 875 (Interstate Communications: Extortions / Threats). You can Read More Here. We're sorry to have to do this, and while we don't necessarily agree with this, it is still the law. When the Secret Service gets involved, we don't have many options. We appreciate your understanding in the matter. Please call (202) 406-5000 if you have any questions."
I am going to **** that Bush using a high powered rifle and silver bullets. Censor THAT. ROFL:)
I don't have a copy/mirror but basically, there were 3 comments that were removed (You can see the removal notice). In one, i joked that the laser could be used to kill someone without leaving any evidence. Then i said something about bush. People said it was illigal to threaten the president in America so for added fun, i replied with a formal declaration of presidential threatency (I was going to PGP sign it but i've forgotten my key.. lol). I want to put something on my website about this involving lots of colourful graphics:) but my host is in America and their T&C are a little restrictive... i see some creative 3-step hyper-linking coming on..;)
I know this should go down in the relevent thread, but i didn't think anyone would read it. Someone said i made slashdot history by being the first user with a comment removed, can anyone verify this? also they said the secret service was involved (i find this hard to belive) can any check this too? i know this whole comment is way off-topic, but DUDE! i got a comment removed from slashdot! FREE SPEECH.. yeah
So how does it feel knowing you could be the first? - Well, we're still checking that, but if i am, obviously i will feel mighty proud, i might even auction my (low UID) account on eBay like Everquest etc...
Will the CIA catch you? - I would love to know if i have a warrent in America, "Oh, no, sorry i can't go to the US, i have a warrent out for my arrest lol)
Those of you sitting in rows 1-10 will be hearing the english sound track. Rows 11-20 will hear the french sound track. Those in rows 21-60 have cheap movie tickets that do not cover the RIAA music royalties and will hear the voice only sound track. Please enjoy the film.
I agreed with everything that article said, its nice to know that other people can see the light. The only problem i had with it is that he didn't come across too well. To me it sounded fine, but to others, i think he would probably sound like just-another-nutcase-conspiracy-theorist.
I especially liked the Microsoft theory - that they would try something stupid, it tied in with the whole raw-sockets thing, where MS would prove that the internet is not strong enough, and would try and implement its own closed system. The internet is definately closing - Flash, Passport, non-W3C compatable web pages. But he sounds way too confident that the corporations will loose.
IMHO, unless the mass public is very well educated about these issues, freedom will die. (no, slashdot is not the mass public, more like 0.00000001%)
I may have come to your attention that you are beeing affected by piracy. Let me make this clear: You _are_ f*cked, you will loose to piracy, and there is nothing you can do about it. We will carry on buying Tivos, and we will build our own if we have to, we won't stop filesharing and we won't stop pirating. If you try and design protection systems, you will fail - there are thousends of people who will spend months breaking your puny systems and some of them are probably the jokers who designed them for you and took your money LOL. You can't ban the Internet, you can't stop people copying what they can see and you can't control our lives. As far as most of us are conserned, we don't care if piracy is wrong, get this: WE DON'T CARE. You will probably loose money and eventually, some of you could even go out of business, we don't care. Big actors and singers won't be able to afford their limos and drugs, we don't care. Infact, there is currently only one way you can pursuade me to stick with you, that is give me TV that is such amazingly hi-resolution, and quality, that i won't want to watch inferior versions from the internet.
What if there was a proxy that could scan a web-page (much like an ad-busting proxy) and try and deal with the code within. It could then tell you roughly what a certain bit of java code did and ask you if you wanted to run it or not. There are few recognised innocent things java can be used for in web pages - validating, rollovers etc, the code for these is not that complex. If people would start using the same bit of code (many do, because they nick it from someone else) it would make it easier to identify what was useful and what wasn't. For example, anything that creates a new window is not useful (IMHO), so the proxy could disable it, and put a little link at the bottom of the page saying "this script has been disabled, to enable it click here" or something like that. You could also allow the user to disable certain commands, such as onRightClick (i think thats the one) to stop right click scripts (you will know what i mean if you use IE.. (i use opera)). This way you could live with java enabled but without annoying script kiddies.
Mainly its microsoft who are the culprits, allowing scripts to do more than is good for them. The whole idea of the sandbox, is that you cant control _anything_ outside it, not the window, not the mouse, not the browser. This is starting to get offtopic though..
Slashdot Mirror
In the article they said something about devices that will respond to instructions embedded in the film. Here are the proposed specifications for a byte called 'SSSCA_DRM' to be put at the start of all files and media by law
Bit Description
1st Disable copying of this data
2nd Disable re-booting while media is in drive
3rd Disable ejecting of media from drive
4th Enable tamper-protection - send GPS position to CIA if device is opened
5th Destroy media in drive
6th Destroy drive
7th Destroy device
8th Destroy user
to combat this system simply: SSSCA_DRM = binary '00000000'
I propose a 9th bit: Destroy Bush, SSSCA_DRM = binary '000000001'
Yeah, i mean, at least in England, they don't strap people into chairs and gas/electrocute them. Also, they don't arrest you for quoting DeCSS. And oddly enough flag-burning is legal. But the only problem is they drive on the wrong side of the road (they claim its something about people being right-handed and changing gear...) weird :)
Or as G.W.Bush put it: "Most of our imports are increasingly coming from outside the country" rofl
Its amazing how this doesn't get laughed out of court, but the proposal to ensure sheep are not shaved beyond a 3.5mm limit does.
There are sheep everywhere with severe razor burn, and in-growing hair. This must be stopped.
How does this stupid man expect to enforce this? atleast with the sheep thing you could do hair inspections.
"...computers and video devices must be prepared to react to instructions embedded in the film..."
;)4 1)
No, they absolutely must not. Devices i own in my home will do what i say and nothing else. They will answer to me and only me. I've had enough of this with DVD (They can decide what you can fast-forward through for gods sake). Any system that relies on this is completely flawed and anyone who designs it is a fool. I don't know why people allowed DVD to get away with this but the general public sure as hell better not let anything else like this through. It goes against the entire Open Source philosophy.
BTW
I just had a comment deleted for threats against the president of the USA. I hope threatening the President of the MPAA is still legal, cause i want to kill him
(slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=30233
I just had a comment deleted for threats against the president of the USA. I hope threatening the President of the MPAA is still legal, cause i want to kill him ;)
)
(slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=3023341
"...computers and video devices must be prepared to react to instructions embedded in the film..."
No, they absolutely must not. Devices i own in my home will do what i say and nothing else. They will answer to me and only me. I've had enough of this with DVD (They can decide what you can fast-forward through for gods sake). Any system that relies on this is completely flawed and anyone who designs it is a fool. I don't know why people allowed DVD to get away with this but the general public sure as hell better not let anything else like this through. It goes against the entire Open Source philosophy.
Ok, so what your saying is:
"Someone will kill G.W.Bush" is fine, but:
"I will kill G.W.Bush" is not ok.
were talking about 7 ASCII characters here, does writing a 56-bit pattern mean i should go to jail? what a messed up country.
I'd much rather say "President Bush is a pig-fucker (i.e a person that is involved with sexual activities with pigs) and should burn in the fires of hell for crimes against pigs. And also note that he is not worthy of running a BurgerKing(tm) much less a country."
If the SS has bothered to contact slashdot about my comments, then they have too much time on their hands (especially since they should be investigating that terrible pretzel incident)
Now this interests me allot. I posted the 'threat' from my account. So all they have on me is my username (and maybe some email address that i probably registered on yahoo or hotmail or something. My account name is part of my real name, but i'm sure there are many people with that same name. How much evidence would they need in order to arrest me (I am in one of the locations you mentioned). and what could they do with me. I hardly think a few comments on an internet forum warrents a jail term, or even police time. If it does, then America is more of a repressive socialist dictatorship than i thought.
I don't live in America, so no i haven't had any visits from the MIB. If i did live there, my home would have been searched already (do a search on google, this has happened before).
It would be kinda cool to have a warrent in America though... knowing that if i ever went there my airline tickets would be flagged by the CIA and i would have a nice escort waiting for me... oh well, maybe i could do some DMCA violations or something..
Agreed. But unless you send a threat directly to someone, its not a threat..
If i was going to kill the president, i would either a) not tell anyone and decrease the chances of being arrested before completing the task. or b) tell the world, and make it very clear that i was serious.
If the government deleted this threat, surely it would be as if they psychologically believed censoring a threat would make that threat null.
I wonder how they search 10000's of sites looking for obscure threats.. oh yeah, probably the same way they record all your emails and phone calls lol:)
The slashdot FAQ and real life differ. Since slashdot is hosted in the United States, they are subject to US law. As we all know, the US isn't exactly the holy grail when it comes to free speech. Slashdot has therefore been _forced_ to actually remove comments because of what is effectively censorship laws. As far as i know its happened twice because of the DMCA, and once because of a threat (in jest) to the president of America. I know this, because I posted that last one, (3 seperate comments) and they were deleted a couple of days ago:
slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=3023341
I've only ever seen slashdot remove comments from its site twice, both DMCA related. So the other day i was surprised to find 3 of my comments deleted, and replaced with an explination which said:
/.'s fault. Its that ****ing pig-****er Bush's fault. I'm gonna **** that ****. Ok, i can understand why a threat to the president of America could be dangerous - the secret service need to know whats going on. But why censor it? is that not protected speech?
"This comment has been removed since it was clearly in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 871 (Threats Against The President) and / or Section 875 (Interstate Communications: Extortions / Threats). You can Read More Here. We're sorry to have to do this, and while we don't necessarily agree with this, it is still the law. When the Secret Service gets involved, we don't have many options. We appreciate your understanding in the matter. Please call (202) 406-5000 if you have any questions."
slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28127&cid=3023341
Now, don't get me wrong, its not
Let me put it another way: If i throw a brick through the whitehouse window saying "Die Bush" on it. That is a threat to be taken seriously. I would be a threat, i should be arrested. Now, if, i write an comment on a web site a thousend miles away, that tells people what i think of a certain someone, it is my right to free speech.
oops.. take the space out between 3023 & 341
...on behalf of slashdot.org, who had to remove my comments (3 of them) for violating US law. Its nice to know, that the American government, like China, also doesn't like people saying bad things about their politicians. Ahh, America, truly the land of the free
8 127&cid=3023 341
have a look: (the troll rating i deserved):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2
"This comment has been removed since it was clearly in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 871 (Threats Against The President) and / or Section 875 (Interstate Communications: Extortions / Threats). You can Read More Here. We're sorry to have to do this, and while we don't necessarily agree with this, it is still the law. When the Secret Service gets involved, we don't have many options. We appreciate your understanding in the matter. Please call (202) 406-5000 if you have any questions."
I am going to **** that Bush using a high powered rifle and silver bullets. Censor THAT. ROFL:)
No, your a looser, and your president is a fool.
I am going to **** George W Bush using a high powered rifle and silver bullets. Censor THAT.
hmmm... kinda catchy as a new sig..
I don't have a copy/mirror but basically, there were 3 comments that were removed (You can see the removal notice). In one, i joked that the laser could be used to kill someone without leaving any evidence. Then i said something about bush. People said it was illigal to threaten the president in America so for added fun, i replied with a formal declaration of presidential threatency (I was going to PGP sign it but i've forgotten my key.. lol). I want to put something on my website about this involving lots of colourful graphics :) but my host is in America and their T&C are a little restrictive... i see some creative 3-step hyper-linking coming on.. ;)
This is off topic
/. history with the comment removal thing... hmm i see a web site coming on
No, im far more interested in finding out if i made
I know this should go down in the relevent thread, but i didn't think anyone would read it. Someone said i made slashdot history by being the first user with a comment removed, can anyone verify this? also they said the secret service was involved (i find this hard to belive) can any check this too? i know this whole comment is way off-topic, but DUDE! i got a comment removed from slashdot! FREE SPEECH.. yeah
So how does it feel knowing you could be the first? - Well, we're still checking that, but if i am, obviously i will feel mighty proud, i might even auction my (low UID) account on eBay like Everquest etc...
Will the CIA catch you? - I would love to know if i have a warrent in America, "Oh, no, sorry i can't go to the US, i have a warrent out for my arrest lol)
Those of you sitting in rows 1-10 will be hearing the english sound track. Rows 11-20 will hear the french sound track. Those in rows 21-60 have cheap movie tickets that do not cover the RIAA music royalties and will hear the voice only sound track. Please enjoy the film.
Wouldn't that mean you'd only hear the noise of screaming fans instead of the music?
I agreed with everything that article said, its nice to know that other people can see the light. The only problem i had with it is that he didn't come across too well. To me it sounded fine, but to others, i think he would probably sound like just-another-nutcase-conspiracy-theorist.
I especially liked the Microsoft theory - that they would try something stupid, it tied in with the whole raw-sockets thing, where MS would prove that the internet is not strong enough, and would try and implement its own closed system. The internet is definately closing - Flash, Passport, non-W3C compatable web pages. But he sounds way too confident that the corporations will loose.
IMHO, unless the mass public is very well educated about these issues, freedom will die. (no, slashdot is not the mass public, more like 0.00000001%)
I may have come to your attention that you are beeing affected by piracy. Let me make this clear: You _are_ f*cked, you will loose to piracy, and there is nothing you can do about it. We will carry on buying Tivos, and we will build our own if we have to, we won't stop filesharing and we won't stop pirating. If you try and design protection systems, you will fail - there are thousends of people who will spend months breaking your puny systems and some of them are probably the jokers who designed them for you and took your money LOL. You can't ban the Internet, you can't stop people copying what they can see and you can't control our lives. As far as most of us are conserned, we don't care if piracy is wrong, get this: WE DON'T CARE. You will probably loose money and eventually, some of you could even go out of business, we don't care. Big actors and singers won't be able to afford their limos and drugs, we don't care. Infact, there is currently only one way you can pursuade me to stick with you, that is give me TV that is such amazingly hi-resolution, and quality, that i won't want to watch inferior versions from the internet.
The only thing this will be used for is nuking
What if there was a proxy that could scan a web-page (much like an ad-busting proxy) and try and deal with the code within. It could then tell you roughly what a certain bit of java code did and ask you if you wanted to run it or not. There are few recognised innocent things java can be used for in web pages - validating, rollovers etc, the code for these is not that complex. If people would start using the same bit of code (many do, because they nick it from someone else) it would make it easier to identify what was useful and what wasn't. For example, anything that creates a new window is not useful (IMHO), so the proxy could disable it, and put a little link at the bottom of the page saying "this script has been disabled, to enable it click here" or something like that. You could also allow the user to disable certain commands, such as onRightClick (i think thats the one) to stop right click scripts (you will know what i mean if you use IE.. (i use opera)). This way you could live with java enabled but without annoying script kiddies.
Mainly its microsoft who are the culprits, allowing scripts to do more than is good for them. The whole idea of the sandbox, is that you cant control _anything_ outside it, not the window, not the mouse, not the browser. This is starting to get offtopic though..