Without a work requirement and means testing, basic income can never work. No one is going to work to pay taxes to let others sit around in their underwear arguing on internet forums.
It comes down to what you want and how you use it.
If you are going to get great satisfaction about building your own and knowing how every part works, then build your own.
If you are going to use it for some work related uses, but the work isn't very valuable and so the time spent on the device isn't really that lucrative, buy the cheapest laptop you can get.
If you use a laptop professionally at any reasonable rate, spend 10-20 cents per hour more to get the best laptop possible, which is typically a Macbook Pro (runs Unix, Windows and MacOs, great screen, retina instead of tiny fonts, great build quality, and great resale value) because it only takes a tiny increase in productivity/output to pay for it.
Most android phones are cheap feature phones sold in third world and not used heavily. Despite it's lead in unit sales, app sales are less than half iPhone app sales.
They only release numbers if required by public company rules. They don't have to release numbers for minor segments, which due to the enormous sizes of iPhone, iPad, Macs and Services, puts the watch in a minor segment. They have no reason to give Android Wear makers a blueprint for their success.
The only billion dollar sales electronic product that I've ever heard has ever lost money was the Xbox, and that was when revenues were $1B a year. $6B a year products don't lose money.
More specifically Apple doesn't price it's products to lose money. It's actually estimated costs for making the watches is about half their sales prices, so it's got about $3B a year left over for product development/marketing and sales costs. That's a slam dunk profitable business.
LOL, there is no chance Apple is losing money on the Watch. It's one of the best selling consumer electronic products in history. It outsold the iPhone and iPod in their first years. Its yearly revenues are close to the revenues of all flat panel TVs sold in the US.
Apple isn't going to break out their margins on the product because they don't have to on minor segments and aren't giving Android Wear makers a blueprint for their success.
Nope, you will still be able to download them and play them on iOS 10 and previous. Apple has not said they'd be removed from the store.
And developers have this thing called Xcode, if they click the "compile" button it spits out a 64 bit version of their classic games they can put on the store.
And windows isn't an open system. it's bloatware because it supports terribly dated old apps that require hacks to run. IT's so bloated the first Surface couldn't offer 16 gigs as entry level system because the OS required all of it.
Let's not forget what a monster success it was before this quarter. It sold double the units of the original iPhone in it's first year, and did $6B in revenue. That likely made it the best selling watch in history by revenue.
Expect they sold $6B+ it's first year. So it's always sold and they always expected it to. By revenues it's outselling all of android wear, and the best selling watch in history.
It's called competitive advantage. Because Apple watch is "only" a $6B+ business, it's not in the top 4 business segments for Apple. So it's not required to be provided in detail in public filings, and there are no reasons for them to give Android Wear makers a blueprint for market success.
Microsoft never talked about Windows Phone revenues because they were terrible. Apple Watch sold $6B it's first year, which is by probably the highest revenues any watch line has ever produced. Rolex and Swatch are in the neighborhood, but their revenues are split up among lots of other businesses that aren't watches.
Right, they spend more than $6B a year on the Apple Watch, so it's a flop. LOL. It's the best selling watch by revenue in history. Pretty sure they are squeezing out a profit.
"If this was a genuine success then they would not be trumpeting 'revenue'."
Yes, if it hadn't been so successful it would have been successful?
$6B in revenue first year is probably more than any watch in history, but it's not a success?
I use mine for fitness and for notifications. Both are very important. Of course I don't need the watch. Nor do I need an iPhone, could get by with a feature phone, so both are sustained on a bubble of just being extremely useful, but not necessary.
"Florida, Arkansas, Alabama etc are not sovereign: last time they tried to leave, some other people started shooting at them until they stopped"
Uh, that's not true. The confederate states declared their successions starting in the November of Lincoln's election, and formed the Confederacy in February. it wasn't until they attacked Fort Sumter in April that the Union responded.
Sovereignty is just the military capability of defending yourself, the border lines of countries are redrawn regularly. Remember when progressives went ape sh*t over the US invading a "sovereign Iraq"? It's really a meaningless word, it's first definition is "a Monarch".
"Yeah you hate taxes but you love the civilisation that they buy. If you really hate taxes, you can always move to the Libertain Paradise of the Congo where the government pretty much doesn't have the werewithal to collect taxes to any significant degree."
Nice straw man. Only a small fraction of my total taxes pay for roads, police, and schools, the cornerstones of civilization.
Somehow Ike ran the US spending less than 15% of the GDP on federal government. Remind me again why a more modern US Government requires nearly twice as big a share of the economy?
Somehow businesses continually get more efficient and government less.
The EU isn't a dictatorial authority, this issue will be settled in court. But I'm pretty confident Ireland can have one general tax rate for corporations, and different rates for corporations locating savings or intellectual property in Ireland, since those activities don't generate any costs for the Irish government.
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Without a work requirement and means testing, basic income can never work. No one is going to work to pay taxes to let others sit around in their underwear arguing on internet forums.
Why would he lose his job? We are tremendously more automated today and have as many jobs as ever.
Remember when the world was running out of resources in the 70s and was on the verge of starvation and riots?
Remember peak oil?
Ahh, malthusians.
It comes down to what you want and how you use it.
If you are going to get great satisfaction about building your own and knowing how every part works, then build your own.
If you are going to use it for some work related uses, but the work isn't very valuable and so the time spent on the device isn't really that lucrative, buy the cheapest laptop you can get.
If you use a laptop professionally at any reasonable rate, spend 10-20 cents per hour more to get the best laptop possible, which is typically a Macbook Pro (runs Unix, Windows and MacOs, great screen, retina instead of tiny fonts, great build quality, and great resale value) because it only takes a tiny increase in productivity/output to pay for it.
And the Apple Watch outsold the iPhone in their first years.
Swatches total watch revenues are less than the Apple Watch. Swatch ain't caught at shit.
Most android phones are cheap feature phones sold in third world and not used heavily. Despite it's lead in unit sales, app sales are less than half iPhone app sales.
They only release numbers if required by public company rules. They don't have to release numbers for minor segments, which due to the enormous sizes of iPhone, iPad, Macs and Services, puts the watch in a minor segment. They have no reason to give Android Wear makers a blueprint for their success.
The only billion dollar sales electronic product that I've ever heard has ever lost money was the Xbox, and that was when revenues were $1B a year. $6B a year products don't lose money.
More specifically Apple doesn't price it's products to lose money. It's actually estimated costs for making the watches is about half their sales prices, so it's got about $3B a year left over for product development/marketing and sales costs. That's a slam dunk profitable business.
LOL, there is no chance Apple is losing money on the Watch. It's one of the best selling consumer electronic products in history. It outsold the iPhone and iPod in their first years. Its yearly revenues are close to the revenues of all flat panel TVs sold in the US.
Apple isn't going to break out their margins on the product because they don't have to on minor segments and aren't giving Android Wear makers a blueprint for their success.
Nope, you will still be able to download them and play them on iOS 10 and previous. Apple has not said they'd be removed from the store.
And developers have this thing called Xcode, if they click the "compile" button it spits out a 64 bit version of their classic games they can put on the store.
And windows isn't an open system. it's bloatware because it supports terribly dated old apps that require hacks to run. IT's so bloated the first Surface couldn't offer 16 gigs as entry level system because the OS required all of it.
Uh, 10.3 already runs 32 bit apps. I am running them now on it.
Let's not forget what a monster success it was before this quarter. It sold double the units of the original iPhone in it's first year, and did $6B in revenue. That likely made it the best selling watch in history by revenue.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a...
And in it's second year sales are increasing.
Yep, $6B+ a year in sales is a "lump of coal" and not a "success". LOL>
Expect they sold $6B+ it's first year. So it's always sold and they always expected it to. By revenues it's outselling all of android wear, and the best selling watch in history.
Keep shilling your useless Chinese "smartwatch"
Who wears their watch while sleeping? I've never had mine die during the day.
It's called competitive advantage. Because Apple watch is "only" a $6B+ business, it's not in the top 4 business segments for Apple. So it's not required to be provided in detail in public filings, and there are no reasons for them to give Android Wear makers a blueprint for market success.
Microsoft never talked about Windows Phone revenues because they were terrible. Apple Watch sold $6B it's first year, which is by probably the highest revenues any watch line has ever produced. Rolex and Swatch are in the neighborhood, but their revenues are split up among lots of other businesses that aren't watches.
Fitbit are really popular, and they just laid off most of the company because it's getting crushed by Apple Watch.
When first year sales were $6B, record quarters mean something.
Right, they spend more than $6B a year on the Apple Watch, so it's a flop. LOL. It's the best selling watch by revenue in history. Pretty sure they are squeezing out a profit.
"If this was a genuine success then they would not be trumpeting 'revenue'."
Yes, if it hadn't been so successful it would have been successful?
$6B in revenue first year is probably more than any watch in history, but it's not a success?
I use mine for fitness and for notifications. Both are very important. Of course I don't need the watch. Nor do I need an iPhone, could get by with a feature phone, so both are sustained on a bubble of just being extremely useful, but not necessary.
Keep up with the Straw Horses.
"Florida, Arkansas, Alabama etc are not sovereign: last time they tried to leave, some other people started shooting at them until they stopped"
Uh, that's not true. The confederate states declared their successions starting in the November of Lincoln's election, and formed the Confederacy in February. it wasn't until they attacked Fort Sumter in April that the Union responded.
Sovereignty is just the military capability of defending yourself, the border lines of countries are redrawn regularly. Remember when progressives went ape sh*t over the US invading a "sovereign Iraq"? It's really a meaningless word, it's first definition is "a Monarch".
"Yeah you hate taxes but you love the civilisation that they buy. If you really hate taxes, you can always move to the Libertain Paradise of the Congo where the government pretty much doesn't have the werewithal to collect taxes to any significant degree."
Nice straw man. Only a small fraction of my total taxes pay for roads, police, and schools, the cornerstones of civilization.
Somehow Ike ran the US spending less than 15% of the GDP on federal government. Remind me again why a more modern US Government requires nearly twice as big a share of the economy?
Somehow businesses continually get more efficient and government less.
The EU isn't a dictatorial authority, this issue will be settled in court. But I'm pretty confident Ireland can have one general tax rate for corporations, and different rates for corporations locating savings or intellectual property in Ireland, since those activities don't generate any costs for the Irish government.