I'm not super up to speed on this, so IANAL and all of that.
I know that courts have ruled repeatedly that the victims of child abuse portrayed in CP are re-injured every time an image is viewed. This seems mostly to come up in questions of restitution, and it seems pretty straightforward to me. So, some douche-bag downloads an image (or 1000's) and then uses them to gain access to another group that requires uploads? Those images are now out there forever.
I also read a pedophile's plea agreement once while I was locked up. It contained an acknowledgement that by viewing CP he had increased the demand for CP and as such he had increased the incentive for producers to make more. I'm not sure if/how this would apply, just throwing it out there.
Please do not mistake my meaning. I am extremely glad that these children were rescued, the site was taken down, and that these people were apprehended. On the other hand, as a guy who has had WAY TOO MUCH experience with the US DOJ, I can promise you that ANY operation like this that survives judicial/appellate review soon becomes normal circumstances. This is why we have the conspiracy statute and the weird definition of Weapon of Mass Destruction in American jurisprudence. Child molestation is one of the vilest crimes people commit, and with strong encryption it seems like this will be harder to prevent/stop. I don't know the answer, but I do at least want the answer to have had legislative consideration. I think this is one of the hard questions.
In Japan, pedophiles can buy child sex dolls that appear to reduce harm.
That is easily the most unexpected sentence I have read this year. Having been locked up with many pedophiles and several people I believe to have been falsely convicted of it, I am surprised that I have never heard of this. Wow.
In the federal system some judges will look at the whole picture and decide that a defendant did not intend to download the contraband and will throw the case out. I've read a couple of cases like that, I think mostly from 9th district. I no longer have access to the Criminal Law Reporter, so I have no cite, sorry. On the other hand, this question is unlikely to be raised unless the defendant is setting up to go to trial (or is at trial) which almost never happens in the Feds. Almost all cases in the Feds are resolved by plea deal. Once you plead guilty, you're done for.
I think the difference is that Francine did say 'no'. This shows that she was NOT predisposed to commit the crime. When Glen convinces her to do it, they are corrupting her. If Glen is acting as an agent of the government, this is clearly entrapment. In practice, at least in the federal system, courts often determine that the provocateurs are not agents, and thus there is no entrapment. This is why many convicts will tell you that there is no protection from entrapment anymore.
Excuse me, but by "dihedral", do you mean "angle of attack"?
Dihedral: Tips of wings are higher than the roots of the wings. If you look at an airplane from the front or back, the two wings make a shallow 'v' shape.
Angle of attack: Measure of the vertical angle of the chord of the wing to the direction of travel. If you look at an airplane from the side, the front edge of the wing is higher than the back edge of the wing.
And everyone in prison is innocent, according to everyone in prison. Actually, almost everyone in prison will tell you up front that they are guilty as charged. Everyone starts with a plea of innocent because that's the path to the least sentence, but NOBODY believes that's an honest plea. People who didn't learn about prison from television will know this.
All you have is what they say, and they're already convicted felons. What's lying compared to bank robbery? Well, actually, we get to see people behaving under extremely stressful conditions over a long period of time. Also, many of their cases are published, and you can read exactly what they were charged with and you can read the evidence against them, and what evidence the judges disallowed. So, we get to know each other really really well. Yes, there are a lot of liars in prison. If you think the people around them can't tell, you're not very experienced with people.
All the marijuana and tobacco stuff is a strawman. The problem there is that they have traded one kind of prohibition (legislative) for another (regulatory). As a counterexample, see alcohol, and the prices thereof.
UBI changes nothing about the one reason that people rob banks: because that's where the money is. No, it changes the part where they are robbing a bank because they need the money to buy stuff. Sometimes it's drugs (lots of crack addicts wind up robbing banks), sometimes it's diapers and rent. Your statement looks like an attempt to be cute (Willie Sutton quote and all), but it's literally 100% wrong.
I'm 50 years old. I earn $8/hr as a dog bather, with tips it comes to about $11/hr. It's part time, so I really pull about $17,000/yr. I would certainly quit the dog bathing business, but I would be able to try other things (like, I REALLY want to start a small business). I could try other jobs that were less physically demanding (I'm fighting arthritis and some nerve damage) but might get me in a better place. Also, I volunteer at our local library (only about an hour or two a week, but still...) and I wouldn't stop that. Please don't discount the poor people out of hand.
I knew lots of drug dealers in prison that would never have been there if they had had UBI before they started selling drugs. Sure, once they get into some real money they might not want to stop, but the guys that are not yet dealers are at-risk, and UBI would stop most of that shit cold. On the other hand, decriminalizing most drugs (which is one of the places that I see eye-to-eye with Libertarians) guts the profitability of drug dealing, while reducing the jail population. Prohibition does not work. Rapists, pedophiles, murderers, white collar criminals, etc., will still be problems, but you'd be amazed how UBI would stop bank robbery.
Convicted felon, here. I disagree with almost everything you said. I didn't rob a bank until I was 40 years old. Was I a moral person for the first 39 years, and then an immoral one after? Pretty simplistic. I postulate that you will abide by your morality right up until your kid says "Daddy, I'm hungry" and you have nothing to feed her. (I'm not saying this is what happened to me, but to a lot of bank robbers I met inside.) Maybe you're different. Kudos to you, if so, I guess. The biggest cause of poverty is not government regulation, that's ridiculous. I suspect it's poor understanding of money by parents and peers, causing poor behavior modeling. There's a reason college graduates' kids go to college and the working class poors' kids go to the payday loan shop when things go south. Did your parents launch you on a positive trajectory? How did they know how to? Maybe they didn't. Again, maybe you're different. Kudos to you. Mine wanted to, but didn't know how. Sure, socialism is always doomed to failure, if you reduce everything down to a false dichotomy. Look how much better the outcomes were in the 1800s for the robber barons. Not so much for normal people. Anyway, they're TRYING it. Let's at least wait and see.
Inmates run EVERYTHING IN THE PRISON, except for the doors. These guys probably just looked like a work party from Facilities or Maintenance. Literally, all of the cabling for our prison factory expansion was run by inmates in the prison. It's just how it is.
While I was in jail I watched a guy build a 120 volt (wall current) water heater using a dead AA battery, a toothbrush, a flexible plastic pen, and the wires from a broken set of earbuds. it took him about 30 minutes and then we were all eating hot ramen noodle soups. Awesome. Don't even get me started on the guys building their own tattoo guns.
Well, as a recently released convicted felon let me say thank you. Everyone seems to agree that i deserve a second chance, but no one wants to be the one to give me a second chance.
They do a lot of manufacturing. My factory made high end office furniture (desks, tables, credenzas) and some wooden games. The furniture went to government offices only (FBI, military, SSA, INS, etc.) and the games went to private industry.
Inmates did production control using SAP and manufacturing using CNC saws and mills.
The staff lived in fear of the clerks (inmates) getting in trouble because we had such a hard time finding guys who could use the computer.
Marketers, mostly. Also, sadly, their peers.
The market system in the US relies on people spending quickly. There is advertising everywhere, and cultural norms drive people to 'keep up with the Joneses'.
Problematically, people in the bottom of the socio-economic spectrum do not learn good money habits in their youth because their parents do not have good habits. People tend to repeat behaviors they see modeled.
You would not believe some of the stupid money pronouncements I have heard from poor people (I am poor myself, and grew up poorer). They just don't know any better. I believe this is a big source of the tendency fro the poor to get poorer while the rich get richer.
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I hate to sound naive, but where does it have a worse rep than in the US?
Damn, dude.
I'm not super up to speed on this, so IANAL and all of that.
I know that courts have ruled repeatedly that the victims of child abuse portrayed in CP are re-injured every time an image is viewed. This seems mostly to come up in questions of restitution, and it seems pretty straightforward to me. So, some douche-bag downloads an image (or 1000's) and then uses them to gain access to another group that requires uploads? Those images are now out there forever.
I also read a pedophile's plea agreement once while I was locked up. It contained an acknowledgement that by viewing CP he had increased the demand for CP and as such he had increased the incentive for producers to make more. I'm not sure if/how this would apply, just throwing it out there.
Please do not mistake my meaning. I am extremely glad that these children were rescued, the site was taken down, and that these people were apprehended.
On the other hand, as a guy who has had WAY TOO MUCH experience with the US DOJ, I can promise you that ANY operation like this that survives judicial/appellate review soon becomes normal circumstances. This is why we have the conspiracy statute and the weird definition of Weapon of Mass Destruction in American jurisprudence.
Child molestation is one of the vilest crimes people commit, and with strong encryption it seems like this will be harder to prevent/stop. I don't know the answer, but I do at least want the answer to have had legislative consideration. I think this is one of the hard questions.
In Japan, pedophiles can buy child sex dolls that appear to reduce harm.
That is easily the most unexpected sentence I have read this year. Having been locked up with many pedophiles and several people I believe to have been falsely convicted of it, I am surprised that I have never heard of this. Wow.
In the federal system some judges will look at the whole picture and decide that a defendant did not intend to download the contraband and will throw the case out. I've read a couple of cases like that, I think mostly from 9th district. I no longer have access to the Criminal Law Reporter, so I have no cite, sorry.
On the other hand, this question is unlikely to be raised unless the defendant is setting up to go to trial (or is at trial) which almost never happens in the Feds. Almost all cases in the Feds are resolved by plea deal. Once you plead guilty, you're done for.
I think the difference is that Francine did say 'no'. This shows that she was NOT predisposed to commit the crime. When Glen convinces her to do it, they are corrupting her.
If Glen is acting as an agent of the government, this is clearly entrapment. In practice, at least in the federal system, courts often determine that the provocateurs are not agents, and thus there is no entrapment. This is why many convicts will tell you that there is no protection from entrapment anymore.
Atlanta? Uh oh. Now THAT'S flooding...
Excuse me, but by "dihedral", do you mean "angle of attack"?
Dihedral: Tips of wings are higher than the roots of the wings. If you look at an airplane from the front or back, the two wings make a shallow 'v' shape.
Angle of attack: Measure of the vertical angle of the chord of the wing to the direction of travel. If you look at an airplane from the side, the front edge of the wing is higher than the back edge of the wing.
And everyone in prison is innocent, according to everyone in prison.
Actually, almost everyone in prison will tell you up front that they are guilty as charged. Everyone starts with a plea of innocent because that's the path to the least sentence, but NOBODY believes that's an honest plea. People who didn't learn about prison from television will know this.
All you have is what they say, and they're already convicted felons. What's lying compared to bank robbery?
Well, actually, we get to see people behaving under extremely stressful conditions over a long period of time. Also, many of their cases are published, and you can read exactly what they were charged with and you can read the evidence against them, and what evidence the judges disallowed. So, we get to know each other really really well. Yes, there are a lot of liars in prison. If you think the people around them can't tell, you're not very experienced with people.
All the marijuana and tobacco stuff is a strawman. The problem there is that they have traded one kind of prohibition (legislative) for another (regulatory). As a counterexample, see alcohol, and the prices thereof.
UBI changes nothing about the one reason that people rob banks: because that's where the money is.
No, it changes the part where they are robbing a bank because they need the money to buy stuff. Sometimes it's drugs (lots of crack addicts wind up robbing banks), sometimes it's diapers and rent. Your statement looks like an attempt to be cute (Willie Sutton quote and all), but it's literally 100% wrong.
I'm 50 years old.
I earn $8/hr as a dog bather, with tips it comes to about $11/hr. It's part time, so I really pull about $17,000/yr. I would certainly quit the dog bathing business, but I would be able to try other things (like, I REALLY want to start a small business). I could try other jobs that were less physically demanding (I'm fighting arthritis and some nerve damage) but might get me in a better place.
Also, I volunteer at our local library (only about an hour or two a week, but still...) and I wouldn't stop that.
Please don't discount the poor people out of hand.
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I knew lots of drug dealers in prison that would never have been there if they had had UBI before they started selling drugs.
Sure, once they get into some real money they might not want to stop, but the guys that are not yet dealers are at-risk, and UBI would stop most of that shit cold.
On the other hand, decriminalizing most drugs (which is one of the places that I see eye-to-eye with Libertarians) guts the profitability of drug dealing, while reducing the jail population. Prohibition does not work.
Rapists, pedophiles, murderers, white collar criminals, etc., will still be problems, but you'd be amazed how UBI would stop bank robbery.
Convicted felon, here.
I disagree with almost everything you said.
I didn't rob a bank until I was 40 years old. Was I a moral person for the first 39 years, and then an immoral one after? Pretty simplistic. I postulate that you will abide by your morality right up until your kid says "Daddy, I'm hungry" and you have nothing to feed her. (I'm not saying this is what happened to me, but to a lot of bank robbers I met inside.) Maybe you're different. Kudos to you, if so, I guess.
The biggest cause of poverty is not government regulation, that's ridiculous. I suspect it's poor understanding of money by parents and peers, causing poor behavior modeling. There's a reason college graduates' kids go to college and the working class poors' kids go to the payday loan shop when things go south. Did your parents launch you on a positive trajectory? How did they know how to? Maybe they didn't. Again, maybe you're different. Kudos to you.
Mine wanted to, but didn't know how.
Sure, socialism is always doomed to failure, if you reduce everything down to a false dichotomy. Look how much better the outcomes were in the 1800s for the robber barons. Not so much for normal people.
Anyway, they're TRYING it. Let's at least wait and see.
Couple of them. Just small ones, though.
Inmates run EVERYTHING IN THE PRISON, except for the doors. These guys probably just looked like a work party from Facilities or Maintenance. Literally, all of the cabling for our prison factory expansion was run by inmates in the prison. It's just how it is.
While I was in jail I watched a guy build a 120 volt (wall current) water heater using a dead AA battery, a toothbrush, a flexible plastic pen, and the wires from a broken set of earbuds. it took him about 30 minutes and then we were all eating hot ramen noodle soups. Awesome. Don't even get me started on the guys building their own tattoo guns.
Well, as a recently released convicted felon let me say thank you. Everyone seems to agree that i deserve a second chance, but no one wants to be the one to give me a second chance.
They do a lot of manufacturing. My factory made high end office furniture (desks, tables, credenzas) and some wooden games. The furniture went to government offices only (FBI, military, SSA, INS, etc.) and the games went to private industry. Inmates did production control using SAP and manufacturing using CNC saws and mills. The staff lived in fear of the clerks (inmates) getting in trouble because we had such a hard time finding guys who could use the computer.
Marketers, mostly. Also, sadly, their peers. The market system in the US relies on people spending quickly. There is advertising everywhere, and cultural norms drive people to 'keep up with the Joneses'. Problematically, people in the bottom of the socio-economic spectrum do not learn good money habits in their youth because their parents do not have good habits. People tend to repeat behaviors they see modeled. You would not believe some of the stupid money pronouncements I have heard from poor people (I am poor myself, and grew up poorer). They just don't know any better. I believe this is a big source of the tendency fro the poor to get poorer while the rich get richer.
I did eight and a half years myself. Just over one year out, hoping to start a business. Good to see someone who made it. Congratulations.