That was a nasty pam incident. I ended up fixing
that by dl'ing the old.deb and installing it
from floppy. I was ticked that I picked the
_one_ day that had such a catastrophic glitch.
Remember that you do not have to update all
of your packages every day. I recognize that
it's great fun, but if things are working,
don't fuss around with it. Go outside.
Also, simply running apt-get update and apt-get
install is 99.5% of the time
harmless (for sid, 99.99% of the time harmless
for stable).
I'm running 20 lab machines on Debian unstable
and we get all the nice software with minimal
headaches.
I received my first indication that something was happening in the world through Slashdot.
I heard that the other sites weren't available, but I wouldn't have known this empirically since there were already so many quality posts, comments, and bits of information to sort through in the Slashdot forum.
Any long term Usenet denizen will know what I speak of when I refer to that rare, but addictive, experience that seems to be only able to be brought by these forums of such spatially disconnected people, joined only by common interests. When, seemingly all of a sudden, someone writes something so perfect, so funny, so outrageous, so wonderful, so _different_, or so incredibly informative, that you all of a sudden feel justified for all of the times that you wondered why you just kept coming back.
Slashdot did it again.
BTW, perhaps the moderators have been out in force, or maybe I'm just getting old and much more interested in politics than before, but it seems that the quality of posts in the last few days have been much more thoughtful and interesting.
It seems remarkable to me that just because people
cannot fathom the reason why something is designed
in a counterintuitive fashion it means that either
a god did it for some inscrutable reason or because
it's inherently wrong.
Who the fuck made the earth round? It would be a
lot simpler if it was flat. It took a little while
to figure out "why"... and we're still quibbling
over the mechanism.
It seems a little odd that vertebrates, with their
"handicapped" visual inputs, have then gone on to utilize
them in such a dramatically more aggressive fashion.
I mean, of all the sensations that my species would get
rid of first, I'd bet vision would be damn near last.
How would you have designed your eyeballs so they
wouldn't have been so lousy?
Did you know, perhaps, that the shape and internal
structures of said cells may help to eliminate
internally reflected, and therefore from a non-
predictable source, light? Similar to an MRI,
you might say.
There even appears to be a creationist
web-page arguing for the design of our eyes...
> I want to be free to raise my children without having to have them exposed to drugs. Simple as that.
I think, for all your talk about people living in fantasy worlds (re. influenced by X-files), you, yourself, would benefit from a critical glance at the world around you.
People have been using drugs since the first time they decided that eating would be a good thing to do to survive. The differences between the chemical reactions induced by a good meal and drugs are minimal when compared with the amount of training it would require to convince people that they don't need to feel good anymore.
The elimination of an animal's drive for contentment would require much more evil than any corporation's advertising campaign to get customers hooked on an addictive drug.
should have a destination built for that. The group which is involved in creating the ISS didn't create it so that tourists can come up and dork around, no matter how much money they have.
I would assume that the proper way to handle this situation is to either demand that whichever country desires to put people in space for money also builds their own property in space to place them or to create another international endeavour for that purpose, without using taxpayer money... unless of course, it's some sort of wierd money-making venture by the government... but that's bad.
Don't go crapping all over your roommates quarters seems like a pretty simple philosophy.
The point is not "linux" per se... just the abolishment of licenses in general. If one could be allowed to fantasize about eliminating the tedium of license tracking you could also include the fantasy that software sans licensing issues would be usable by "the secretary" as well.
Personally, I find that the only reason "secretaries" need Windows is so that they can continue to receive and view MS formatted files... a chicken and egg cycle that most IT persons would love to break.
Before I start... please note the parallel to "distribution" of internet access:
What "free market" are you talking about WRT to the California power prices?
It's a lovely story:
power company builds power lines
and power generation facilities
new power generator wants to sell
power to people for less money but
_cannot_ get government approval to
build more power lines
old power company notices this and
jacks up prices because they realize
they have a monopoly on distribution
people get pissed, and in their generally
asinine way demand that "something be done"
CA Government: Ok, let's do something...
now all you power companies can either be
generators or distributors... you can't be
both anymore.
Power Companies: Fuck off.
CA Government: We're serious... pick one, and
sell off all the stuff you don't need for
whichever role you choose.
Power Companies: Dude, if we _have_ to sell
then we can't charge reasonable prices.
Government: Whatever... do you think we should
run for higher political offices?
Power Companies: Lets make a deal, let's lock
in a contract to keep charging those suckers
these exorbitant prices for the next ten
years, and we'll agree to sell off our stuff.
Government: Fine, sounds splendid.
Oh, BTW, we want a bigger piece of the action,
so we're going to set up a committee that you
need to get approval from in order to buy
power to resell.
Power Companies: For fuck's sake.
A while later suppliers notice that the distributors have NOWHERE TO GO to get power
except for the ones that get approved by the PUC... boom, overcharging... to the tune of
$6,000,000,000 before people notice. In the meantime, the power companies are locked
into the rates that they demanded and are steadily going bankrupt.
To make things more interesting, parent companies (global) of the CA power companies are refusing to give
back the money that they sucked out when they sold off their power generating supplies. They instead
demand to be released from their respective contracts.
Two serial ports. I know. I'm probably the only one that has a use for two serial ports plus the modem. Maybe one of these days the manufacturers of the realtime equipment my wife and I use will switch to USB, but they haven't yet.
I was looking into doing this sort of thing for a while, and it struck me that if there was some sort of organized effort to get linux to work on the playstation 2 you would have all the necessary components in one nice, cheap, little bundle.
I mean you already have slick graphics processors, digital audio out, etc.,... with harddrive and ethernet coming "real soon now".
Any links to current projects would be appreciated.
Slashdot Mirror
LOL
Just install everything non-Debian in /usr/local.
I don't see the problem.
That was a nasty pam incident. I ended up fixing .deb and installing it
that by dl'ing the old
from floppy. I was ticked that I picked the
_one_ day that had such a catastrophic glitch.
Remember that you do not have to update all
of your packages every day. I recognize that
it's great fun, but if things are working,
don't fuss around with it. Go outside.
Also, simply running apt-get update and apt-get
install is 99.5% of the time
harmless (for sid, 99.99% of the time harmless
for stable).
I'm running 20 lab machines on Debian unstable
and we get all the nice software with minimal
headaches.
Perhaps he should have phrased it:
There are people who work at Akamai who
claim(ed) him as not only a boss but
also a friend.
??
Seems like a lot of work, and he loses credibility.
I received my first indication that something was happening in the world through Slashdot.
I heard that the other sites weren't available, but I wouldn't have known this empirically since there were already so many quality posts, comments, and bits of information to sort through in the Slashdot forum.
Any long term Usenet denizen will know what I speak of when I refer to that rare, but addictive, experience that seems to be only able to be brought by these forums of such spatially disconnected people, joined only by common interests. When, seemingly all of a sudden, someone writes something so perfect, so funny, so outrageous, so wonderful, so _different_, or so incredibly informative, that you all of a sudden feel justified for all of the times that you wondered why you just kept coming back.
Slashdot did it again.
BTW, perhaps the moderators have been out in force, or maybe I'm just getting old and much more interested in politics than before, but it seems that the quality of posts in the last few days have been much more thoughtful and interesting.
Kudos to both the Slashteam and community.
I wish people would get the facts before they
... it was movement from one shitty regulatory system to another, worse, one.
start slamming California's power struggles.
It was not "privatization" that caused the
problem
We just bought 12 1.4 GHz Athlon machines with
1.5 GB RAM each for $10k for neural computations.
We could have gone with Sun, Irix, or Alpha if
we wanted one machine with 2-4 processors.
I looked into it. It wasn't going to happen.
Please don't feed the engineers.
Perfect.
It seems remarkable to me that just because people
... and we're still quibbling
cannot fathom the reason why something is designed
in a counterintuitive fashion it means that either
a god did it for some inscrutable reason or because
it's inherently wrong.
Who the fuck made the earth round? It would be a
lot simpler if it was flat. It took a little while
to figure out "why"
over the mechanism.
It seems a little odd that vertebrates, with their
"handicapped" visual inputs, have then gone on to utilize
them in such a dramatically more aggressive fashion.
I mean, of all the sensations that my species would get
rid of first, I'd bet vision would be damn near last.
How would you have designed your eyeballs so they
...
wouldn't have been so lousy?
Did you know, perhaps, that the shape and internal
structures of said cells may help to eliminate
internally reflected, and therefore from a non-
predictable source, light? Similar to an MRI,
you might say.
There even appears to be a creationist
web-page arguing for the design of our eyes
http://www.trueorigin.org/retina.htm
They assuredly have some facts in there.
Wow, you sound informed ... "good karma" ... kind
of like how all Californians eat only granola and
nuts and drink bottled water.
Oh, wait, everyone else is doing that now, too.
DAMN THOSE CALIFORNIANS!
Are you mad? That _is_ the point.
> I want to be free to raise my children without having to have them exposed to drugs. Simple as that.
I think, for all your talk about people living in fantasy worlds (re. influenced by X-files), you, yourself, would benefit from a critical glance at the world around you.
People have been using drugs since the first time they decided that eating would be a good thing to do to survive. The differences between the chemical reactions induced by a good meal and drugs are minimal when compared with the amount of training it would require to convince people that they don't need to feel good anymore.
The elimination of an animal's drive for contentment would require much more evil than any corporation's advertising campaign to get customers hooked on an addictive drug.
because Christians started it. :P
should have a destination built for that. The group which is involved in creating the ISS didn't create it so that tourists can come up and dork around, no matter how much money they have.
... unless of course, it's some sort of wierd money-making venture by the government ... but that's bad.
I would assume that the proper way to handle this situation is to either demand that whichever country desires to put people in space for money also builds their own property in space to place them or to create another international endeavour for that purpose, without using taxpayer money
Don't go crapping all over your roommates quarters seems like a pretty simple philosophy.
To put words in other people's mouths:
... just the abolishment of licenses in general. If one could be allowed to fantasize about eliminating the tedium of license tracking you could also include the fantasy that software sans licensing issues would be usable by "the secretary" as well.
... a chicken and egg cycle that most IT persons would love to break.
The point is not "linux" per se
Personally, I find that the only reason "secretaries" need Windows is so that they can continue to receive and view MS formatted files
Before I start ... please note the parallel to "distribution" of internet access:
...
... you can't be
... pick one, and
... do you think we should
... boom, overcharging ... to the tune of
What "free market" are you talking about WRT to the California power prices?
It's a lovely story:
power company builds power lines
and power generation facilities
new power generator wants to sell
power to people for less money but
_cannot_ get government approval to
build more power lines
old power company notices this and
jacks up prices because they realize
they have a monopoly on distribution
people get pissed, and in their generally
asinine way demand that "something be done"
CA Government: Ok, let's do something
now all you power companies can either be
generators or distributors
both anymore.
Power Companies: Fuck off.
CA Government: We're serious
sell off all the stuff you don't need for
whichever role you choose.
Power Companies: Dude, if we _have_ to sell
then we can't charge reasonable prices.
Government: Whatever
run for higher political offices?
Power Companies: Lets make a deal, let's lock
in a contract to keep charging those suckers
these exorbitant prices for the next ten
years, and we'll agree to sell off our stuff.
Government: Fine, sounds splendid.
Oh, BTW, we want a bigger piece of the action,
so we're going to set up a committee that you
need to get approval from in order to buy
power to resell.
Power Companies: For fuck's sake.
A while later suppliers notice that the distributors have NOWHERE TO GO to get power
except for the ones that get approved by the PUC
$6,000,000,000 before people notice. In the meantime, the power companies are locked
into the rates that they demanded and are steadily going bankrupt.
To make things more interesting, parent companies (global) of the CA power companies are refusing to give
back the money that they sucked out when they sold off their power generating supplies. They instead
demand to be released from their respective contracts.
Which they got.
Free market? Deregulation? It's all bullshit.
Two serial ports. I know. I'm probably the only one that has a use for two serial ports plus the modem. Maybe one of these days the manufacturers of the realtime equipment my wife and I use will switch to USB, but they haven't yet.
Sounds a bit kinky.
MENSA members don't watch tv.
They especially don't need to tape it.
They also don't speak in absolutes.
Wow. I love the internet.
Best way to kill a party is to turn on the tv.
Unless of course, you're trying to cull.
Actually the parent was modded down, so it could look like I replied to the original thread MOTHER.
Perhaps THIS is what INCURRED your response?
MAN are you DULL.
zealot@linux.org bounces ... could you send me a valid email address to contact you at?
I was looking into doing this sort of thing for a while, and it struck me that if there was some sort of organized effort to get linux to work on the playstation 2 you would have all the necessary components in one nice, cheap, little bundle.
... with harddrive and ethernet coming "real soon now".
I mean you already have slick graphics processors, digital audio out, etc.,
Any links to current projects would be appreciated.