and this is the whole point. This may very well be a good movie to have as a companion to the book but for everyone else who hasn't read the book it was a poor attempt at screenplay. If it was "impossible" to turn the book into a movie it shouldn't have been attempted.
yes and the technical term for you is "luddie". If we were to develop a self replicating robot and somehow get some sort of intelligence into it, it would probably be about as intelligent as a fly. Less than a fly infact, but you obviously fear flies.
Woah! Ok.. I'll stop dissin' Xmas for killing Slashdot.. this has got to be one of the coolest items ever posted. These robots remind me of the great movie Virtuosity (well, I thought it was great, but I loved Hudson Hawk, The Arrival and Mission Impossible). In Virtuosity Russel Crowe plays SID 6.7, a psychotic virtual reality program that escapes into the real world using a nanotech based material. We are first introduced to this material when one of the researchers at this government run facility plunges a program crystal into a tub of blue stuff which quickly forms into a snake. Each (macroscopic) element in the tub is identical but performs a different function directed by the program in the crystal. A great movie that I highly recommend.
Oh now that's totally boring. I know it's christmas guys and you're busy drinking nog and watching reruns of It's a Wonderful Life, but just grabbing the headline off CNN and posting it on Slashdot is sad! Surely somewhere there is a fair use right being trampled or maybe you can do a summary of all the evil that corporations have pulled off over the holidays.
I dont know about educating the market, how about educating the people at IBM? These guys are supposed to be smart yet they continually pump out trivial encryption based "solutions" that claim to do things that are theoretically impossible. What they need is a couple of crackers on staff to attack their latest system and send them back to the drawing board every few months. It is truely sad.
actually if everyone was to go off and use playstations and dreamcasts to connect to the net, run word etc, we could all get along with our lives back in the old days when your grandmother wasn't expected to know stuff about computers.
This is pretty trivial to attack. The "compliant" software has to give up the key to the harddrive to get access. Thus all you have to do is reverse engineer the program and grab the key. You can then use that key in your own program. I strongly doubt the harddrives will have any certificate revoking mechanisms built into them, so you're key would be good forever.
well thank you for making it absolutely clear that you are not an expert and "don't know anything" yourself. If you had not included this warning I would have naturally assumed you were some sort of expert, straight from Sega, come to inform and entertain us all.
perfect forward secrecy: In cryptography, of a key-establishment protocol, the condition in which the compromise of a session key or long-term private key after a given session does not cause the compromise of any earlier session.
And that is why your message is score 0.. frankly, I think it should be -1, offtopic.
If an attacker manages to break into a server that uses SSL to secure services they can steal the certificate. [...] They can then use the certificate to setup a service that looks identical to the original, with some DNS poisoning they can direct users towards it.
This is so toy it's not funny. Let's consider the 101 reasons why no-one does this. First, if you can "break into a server" that is used for secure transactions, you have a lot of options for getting those little magic numbers. First, you can look in their database if they are stupid enough to log cc numbers (hello amazon and all you one-click wannabes) and get a few million cc numbers. You can also trojan the web server or the cc processing cgi and intercept live transactions there. But perhaps the attacker is a little afraid of getting caught so he doesn't wanna touch anything on the web server cause he might "break it". So why wouldn't he go set up a fake server? Well, he has the server certificate! He can just passively monitor the traffic and watch the handshake using the private key, get the symetric session key and watch all the traffic go by at his leisure. This is not to say that people don't set up fake servers and redirect DNS to point to them. It happens all the time, but these are people who don't have the certificate and hope that shoppers wont notice that the transaction isn't encrypted or is encrypted with a different certificate.
This "rebuttal" is filled with similar stupid statements that real experts immediately pick as scare mongering. What is your motive here Seifried?
It's probably off topic, but does anyone think it is possible to recognise an mp3 as a specific song (and I don't mean by looking at ID3 tags.. I mean recognising the music) and if that is possible, is it possible to match a specific mp3 against a large database of songs (say, all the ones controlled by the big music cartels). Then how far fetched is it to imagine an intelligent agent scanning your harddrive for unauthorized mp3's? The likelyhood of music copyright owners actually going after the general public is very small. and a damn good way to loose customers. but the music industry really seems to believe they are above customer retaliation.
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why do people persist in saying stupid crap like "stealing software".. you're supposed to be more educated than the average joe on the street. Surely you understand that copying != stealing. Last time I looked stealing was a criminal offense too, whereas violating copyright is a civil matter.
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I'd be more likely to think that if copy protection actually becomes practical then the added revenues received by software companies like Microsoft will be pumped straight into making it hard or impossible for people to switch to free alternatives.
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so what you're saying is that you dont know of a single person who has bought a computer in the last five years. Where do you live? South central?
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believe it or not, Microsoft actually sells a LOT of their software.. that where all those billions of dollars come from -- what you thought Billy boy just pimps himself? The problem here is that people persist in buying their software even though there is cheaper and (sometimes) better software available. Most people don't even know that their software is bad/expensive or that Free alternatives exist. This is a lack of education and for every dollar of venture capital that this years linux companies spend on programming should be spent on informing the public.
I remember my chemistry teacher used to teach us stuff that was pure speculation but I didn't find out until I started reading Science regularly. I would find something that was a brand new discovery.. ie someone had finally proved it and I'd go to the teacher and he'd say "oh yer.. but I knew it was correct". Apparently teachers do this a lot.
not end of story. If the salesman was talking to a kid on the lot and the next person to walk on the lot was his father and the son told the father about what the guy said the guy would say "shut up kid" and the father would probably say "billy, don't tell lies". If the person in the next booth was a kid and he called the cops the cops wouldn't even show up. The point here? We don't give kids any rights or respect in our society -- especially when they are in school.
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may well have been but the argument was over whether or not 2001 was a good movie not over whether it was a good movie if you've read the book.
and this is the whole point. This may very well be a good movie to have as a companion to the book but for everyone else who hasn't read the book it was a poor attempt at screenplay. If it was "impossible" to turn the book into a movie it shouldn't have been attempted.
sure.. I think it's called "Slashdot poster".
yes and the technical term for you is "luddie". If we were to develop a self replicating robot and somehow get some sort of intelligence into it, it would probably be about as intelligent as a fly. Less than a fly infact, but you obviously fear flies.
ok.. please don't hurt me.. I'll do anything you want, anything.. just tell me what to do.. I want you to punish me.
Woah! Ok.. I'll stop dissin' Xmas for killing Slashdot.. this has got to be one of the coolest items ever posted. These robots remind me of the great movie Virtuosity (well, I thought it was great, but I loved Hudson Hawk, The Arrival and Mission Impossible). In Virtuosity Russel Crowe plays SID 6.7, a psychotic virtual reality program that escapes into the real world using a nanotech based material. We are first introduced to this material when one of the researchers at this government run facility plunges a program crystal into a tub of blue stuff which quickly forms into a snake. Each (macroscopic) element in the tub is identical but performs a different function directed by the program in the crystal. A great movie that I highly recommend.
Oh now that's totally boring. I know it's christmas guys and you're busy drinking nog and watching reruns of It's a Wonderful Life, but just grabbing the headline off CNN and posting it on Slashdot is sad! Surely somewhere there is a fair use right being trampled or maybe you can do a summary of all the evil that corporations have pulled off over the holidays.
I dont know about educating the market, how about educating the people at IBM? These guys are supposed to be smart yet they continually pump out trivial encryption based "solutions" that claim to do things that are theoretically impossible. What they need is a couple of crackers on staff to attack their latest system and send them back to the drawing board every few months. It is truely sad.
actually if everyone was to go off and use playstations and dreamcasts to connect to the net, run word etc, we could all get along with our lives back in the old days when your grandmother wasn't expected to know stuff about computers.
This is pretty trivial to attack. The "compliant" software has to give up the key to the harddrive to get access. Thus all you have to do is reverse engineer the program and grab the key. You can then use that key in your own program. I strongly doubt the harddrives will have any certificate revoking mechanisms built into them, so you're key would be good forever.
If that's all it takes to buy you, I'm sure they'd be willing to make a deal.
well thank you for making it absolutely clear that you are not an expert and "don't know anything" yourself. If you had not included this warning I would have naturally assumed you were some sort of expert, straight from Sega, come to inform and entertain us all.
perfect forward secrecy: In cryptography, of a key-establishment protocol, the condition in which the compromise of a session key or long-term private key after a given session does not cause the compromise of any earlier session.
And that is why your message is score 0.. frankly, I think it should be -1, offtopic.
If an attacker manages to break into a server that uses SSL to secure services they can steal the certificate. [...] They can then use the certificate to setup a service that looks identical to the original, with some DNS poisoning they can direct users towards it.
This is so toy it's not funny. Let's consider the 101 reasons why no-one does this. First, if you can "break into a server" that is used for secure transactions, you have a lot of options for getting those little magic numbers. First, you can look in their database if they are stupid enough to log cc numbers (hello amazon and all you one-click wannabes) and get a few million cc numbers. You can also trojan the web server or the cc processing cgi and intercept live transactions there. But perhaps the attacker is a little afraid of getting caught so he doesn't wanna touch anything on the web server cause he might "break it". So why wouldn't he go set up a fake server? Well, he has the server certificate! He can just passively monitor the traffic and watch the handshake using the private key, get the symetric session key and watch all the traffic go by at his leisure. This is not to say that people don't set up fake servers and redirect DNS to point to them. It happens all the time, but these are people who don't have the certificate and hope that shoppers wont notice that the transaction isn't encrypted or is encrypted with a different certificate.
This "rebuttal" is filled with similar stupid statements that real experts immediately pick as scare mongering. What is your motive here Seifried?
It's probably off topic, but does anyone think it is possible to recognise an mp3 as a specific song (and I don't mean by looking at ID3 tags.. I mean recognising the music) and if that is possible, is it possible to match a specific mp3 against a large database of songs (say, all the ones controlled by the big music cartels). Then how far fetched is it to imagine an intelligent agent scanning your harddrive for unauthorized mp3's? The likelyhood of music copyright owners actually going after the general public is very small. and a damn good way to loose customers. but the music industry really seems to believe they are above customer retaliation.
hmm.. could we guess that you can't even read the data off the CD without giving up some encryption keys from the controlled harddrive?
I dont think customers have a choice. This is legal bullying at its best. Copy control now! or we'll sue your ass back to the stone age.
welcome to the real world Neo.
why do people persist in saying stupid crap like "stealing software".. you're supposed to be more educated than the average joe on the street. Surely you understand that copying != stealing. Last time I looked stealing was a criminal offense too, whereas violating copyright is a civil matter.
I'd be more likely to think that if copy protection actually becomes practical then the added revenues received by software companies like Microsoft will be pumped straight into making it hard or impossible for people to switch to free alternatives.
so what you're saying is that you dont know of a single person who has bought a computer in the last five years. Where do you live? South central?
believe it or not, Microsoft actually sells a LOT of their software.. that where all those billions of dollars come from -- what you thought Billy boy just pimps himself? The problem here is that people persist in buying their software even though there is cheaper and (sometimes) better software available. Most people don't even know that their software is bad/expensive or that Free alternatives exist. This is a lack of education and for every dollar of venture capital that this years linux companies spend on programming should be spent on informing the public.
using proprietary technology originating from the 4C Entity. They're the people who brought you CSS2: IBM, Toshiba Intel and Matsushita.
So a fifteen year old kid will go to court for cracking it. Big deal, just remember, don't like to it!
I remember my chemistry teacher used to teach us stuff that was pure speculation but I didn't find out until I started reading Science regularly. I would find something that was a brand new discovery.. ie someone had finally proved it and I'd go to the teacher and he'd say "oh yer.. but I knew it was correct". Apparently teachers do this a lot.
not end of story. If the salesman was talking to a kid on the lot and the next person to walk on the lot was his father and the son told the father about what the guy said the guy would say "shut up kid" and the father would probably say "billy, don't tell lies". If the person in the next booth was a kid and he called the cops the cops wouldn't even show up. The point here? We don't give kids any rights or respect in our society -- especially when they are in school.