1) If you turn off Microsoft extensions, the for scope is implemented correctly 2) Admittedly, this means that many system headers will not compile 3) You can do: #define for if (0); else for 4) OK It's a pain in the arse. But I thought I would inject a little fact into the discussion!
"If they do it right, most of the development is platform independant. If they plan to do more mulit-platform games later, this is a good habit for their developers. Starting now gives them a real advantage over other companies later. "
This is true, but most developers have been doing platform independant stuff for years. Only they haven't been supporting Linux. When did Linux become a popular games platform? OK I understand the chicken/egg thing here. But it's going to happen slowly, if at all.
"This is also an excelent time for building brand loyalty. Making a few games now when there aren't as many companies building games for Linux could pay off later when the Linux market is larger."
Heh, that's a good one. As if your average Linux user is really going to fall in love with a commercial, closed source game developer. I don't see it happening. Maybe I've just been reading/. for too long...
"The Linux market is growing. It could also be argued that the growth in the Linux market consists of more sophisticated users than the growth in say the Windows market"
So effing what? It could be argued, but it's probably not true. Anyway, what has sophistication (read: ability, willingness [and need] to fart around with.rc files) got to do with games? Is there something about a Linux-head that's going to make him/her buy more games than a Windows user? In fact, shouldn't Linux people be writing their own games? (Open source copies of existing games, naturally... Sorry, couldn't resist:)
"And there are certainly more users switching from Windows to Linux than from Linux to Windows. "
You didn't count the people that tried Linux and then realised how good life was with Windows (although wouldn't it be nice if Windows had a decent command line shell...) "Oh look, he's a Windoze Luser"... Yeah, and I have SuSE 6.0 on the other partition, and I haven't used it for months because it began to p!$s me off...
"It seems painfully obvious that the Linux market is worth spending a bit extra on development."
My advice is, take something for the pain, but we will both be interested in the growth of the Linux games market. Cos, like, it couldn't exactly shrink, could it?
Perhaps decent support for 3D accelerators would help... And I don't mean the odd one or two, I mean *all* of them. I do understand that this is currently in progress, but until it happens, the games thing is going nowhere.
You believe the D&D stereotype? Dude, you deserve *everything* you get, and what's more, you're lucky if that's all you get...
Lives and interests? How much do you know about D&Ders' lives? What the f##k is D&D if it's not an interest? You diss imaginative, passionate, creative, social people... Come on AC, what the f$%k is so good about your life that enables you to be such a t&*t?
Troll, or f@@kwit.
(I don't play D&D, but this guy is out of order...)
The *point* is, because it seems you missed it, that some people spend time thinking about things other than how funky Linux is. That doesn't make them stupid. It means they have other priorities. I'm not saying all this Linux zealotry is anal. Well, OK. It is. But if that's what you wanna do, don't let me stop you...
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1) If you turn off Microsoft extensions, the for scope is implemented correctly
2) Admittedly, this means that many system headers will not compile
3) You can do: #define for if (0); else for
4) OK It's a pain in the arse. But I thought I would inject a little fact into the discussion!
Andrew.
You can do that already with drugs... Paranoia sucks...
I don't believe you, prove it.
Er, OK, I was joking.
There is no such publication.
Happy now?
Or do you want me to explain it to you?
"If they do it right, most of the development is platform independant. If they plan to do more mulit-platform games later, this is a good habit for their developers. Starting now gives them a real advantage over other companies later. "
/. for too long...
.rc files) got to do with games? Is there something about a Linux-head that's going to make him/her buy more games than a Windows user? In fact, shouldn't Linux people be writing their own games? (Open source copies of existing games, naturally... Sorry, couldn't resist :)
This is true, but most developers have been doing platform independant stuff for years. Only they haven't been supporting Linux. When did Linux become a popular games platform? OK I understand the chicken/egg thing here. But it's going to happen slowly, if at all.
"This is also an excelent time for building brand loyalty. Making a few games now when there aren't as many companies building games for Linux could pay off later when the Linux market is larger."
Heh, that's a good one. As if your average Linux user is really going to fall in love with a commercial, closed source game developer. I don't see it happening. Maybe I've just been reading
"The Linux market is growing. It could also be argued that the growth in the Linux market consists of more sophisticated users than the growth in say the Windows market"
So effing what? It could be argued, but it's probably not true. Anyway, what has sophistication (read: ability, willingness [and need] to fart around with
"And there are certainly more users switching from Windows to Linux than from Linux to Windows. "
You didn't count the people that tried Linux and then realised how good life was with Windows (although wouldn't it be nice if Windows had a decent command line shell...) "Oh look, he's a Windoze Luser"... Yeah, and I have SuSE 6.0 on the other partition, and I haven't used it for months because it began to p!$s me off...
"It seems painfully obvious that the Linux market is worth spending a bit extra on development."
My advice is, take something for the pain, but we will both be interested in the growth of the Linux games market. Cos, like, it couldn't exactly shrink, could it?
Perhaps decent support for 3D accelerators would help... And I don't mean the odd one or two, I mean *all* of them. I do understand that this is currently in progress, but until it happens, the games thing is going nowhere.
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OK, I'm fine now.
You believe the D&D stereotype? Dude, you deserve *everything* you get, and what's more, you're lucky if that's all you get...
Lives and interests? How much do you know about D&Ders' lives? What the f##k is D&D if it's not an interest? You diss imaginative, passionate, creative, social people... Come on AC, what the f$%k is so good about your life that enables you to be such a t&*t?
Troll, or f@@kwit.
(I don't play D&D, but this guy is out of order...)
"RPG geeks make most people sick"
Evidence?
"Deal with it; it's a fact."
Urrm, no. It's not in Lawson's Factionary. And Lawson is 100% canonical. If it ain't in there, it ain't a fact.
Sorry.
Linux has no bugs?
What-everrrrr...
Destroying the computer industry... What?
Maybe if I also smoked some crack I would understand...
Of course! Having comprehensively *lost*, what else can they do?
But do not think that MS will stop and wait for Linux to catch up.
This has been a public information announcement.
And some (most) of us don't.
The *point* is, because it seems you missed it, that some people spend time thinking about things other than how funky Linux is. That doesn't make them stupid. It means they have other priorities. I'm not saying all this Linux zealotry is anal. Well, OK. It is. But if that's what you wanna do, don't let me stop you...
This has been a public information announcement.