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Neverwinter Nights Coming to Linux
Lurker writes "Neverwinter Nights is coming to Linux!
BioWare, the developer of the hit roleplaying game, Baldur's Gate, recently unveiled their next big project at the annual GenCon conference in Milwaukee. Neverwinter Nights, their new title, will be a multiplayer roleplaying game based on TSR's new 3rd Edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons® ruleset. Set in and around the cities of Neverwinter and Luskan, in the far northern reaches of the Forgotten Realms® gameworld, the game will ship with a strong story, a powerful editor suite dubbed the Solstice Toolset, and the ability to enter the gameworld and modify it in real-time as an omniscient Dungeon Master. Neverwinter Nights will be powered by a variation of Omen, BioWare's own 3D engine developed for their visually stunning action game, MDK2, and will be published by Black Isle Studios, a division of Interplay.
Make sure to read the last line of the About NWN page
"We are developing simultaneously for PC, Mac, and Linux." "
So, if this uses the MDK2 engine, does that mean we'll see MDK2 for linux as well?
*drool*
MDK was one seriously addictive game for me. I'd *love* to see MDK2 for Linux.
I'm bit bored with ad&d ruleset which allows mage use only dagger and fighter not to use any scrolls etc stuff.
something like diablo was step forward however I mostly like system which is not based on exp points but rather skills which improve in use...
Code or play games? Code or play games? I guess I can play till the hour's done.
Porting to Linux is probably not worth the additional development cost. Anyone have sales figures for the Linux version compared to the Windows version of a popular gamen like Civ:CTP ?
Thats what Im saying Dungeons and Dragons is for tools
That's an awful lot of space to take up with only about four words. Don't quit your day job.
The Linux "movement" if full of dweeby fuckups. Deal with it.
Althoug I honestly cannot fathom how any sane individual can call Terry Pratchett "loser-chow".
Or does "troll" just mean "anybody who doesn't mindlessly agree with the majority"? Heh. Of course it does, nowadays. I'm not saying that mindlessly opposing the majority is much better
Gee, dude, thanks. We didn't realize there were people out there who think we're losers. Wow. What a wake-up call. I'm going to go out right now and get rid of all my D&D stuff, 'cus you've made me realize how truly uncool I am. Gosh. Can I be like *You*?
Tell me what *you* like ! I'll like that too, and then we'll all be as cool as you!!
Y'know, in all seriousness, there's a phrase you may want to look into....YKIOK (Your kink is o.k.)
Chill out dude...
The Linux "movement" if full of dweeby fuckups. Deal with it.
Yeah, but it's also full of non-dweeby fuckups and non-fucked-up dweebs, not to mention a lot of people who just give a damn about software. Sometimes I get the impression that we're not welcome in the clubhouse. Other times I don't get that impression at all, but I just feel like being an asshole; that would be today, for example
I honestly cannot fathom how any sane individual can call Terry Pratchett "loser-chow".
It's crap, that's all. If SF/fantasy sell better than they did when I was a little kid in the 1970's, it's not because the public has wised up; it's because SF/fantasy have dumbed down. Hence Robert Jordan. It's more than 95% crap now. Even semi-readable contemporary writers like Peter F. Hamilton (I said semi-readable
Tell me what *you* like ! I'll like that too, and then we'll all be as cool as you!!
I like marmalade. Wilkins' Tawny marmalade, not that sugary artificial glop at the A&P.
So there you are. Your future as a Kool Dood is assured! You needn't thank me. It's all in a day's work.
Oh baby baby, Oh baby baby
Oh baby baby, how was I supposed to know
that something wasn't right here
Oh baby baby, I shouldn't have let you go
and now you're out of sight, yeah
show me how you want it to be
tell me baby cuz I need to know now, oh because
CHORUS
My loneliness is killin me (and I)
I must confess I still believe (still believe)
When I'm not with you I lose my mind
give me a sign, hit me baby one more time!
Oh baby baby, the reason I breathe is you
Boy you've got me blinded
Oh pretty baby, there's nothin that I wouldn't do
that's not the way I planned it
Show me how you want it to be
tell me baby cuz I need to know now, oh because
CHORUS
Oh baby baby, how was I supposed to know
Oh pretty baby, I shouldn't have let you go
I must confess that my loneliness
is killin me now
don't you know I still believe
that you will be here
and give me a sign, hit me baby one more time
CHORUS
I must confess (my loneliness) that my loneliness
(is killing me) Is killing me now
(I must confess) Don't you (I still believe) know I still believe
that you will be here (I lose my mind)
And give me a sign...
HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME!
than railroad tycoon 2, then unreal tournament, and then team fortress 2..... :)
>So effing what? It's a simple gamble. If they gamble right, they get to make lots of money. That is what the ultimate point of their actions are after all. The remarkable lack of relative competition also helps offset the smaller size of the userbase.
Good thing... I can run it both on my PC _and_ under Linux!!!!! I was worried -- since PC's only run Windows, I'm glad they decided to port to a non-PC platform like Linux. All my friends with PC's will be so impressed when I have this on my Linux machine, too!!!!
I'm a big fan of MUDs (both graphical and text), but it's a shame this is AD&D-based. 3rd Edition is apparently still incredibly badly designed and archaic.
At least they brought Greyhawk back--hopefully, they'll get rid of that putrid Misbegotten Realms and bring back SpellJammer. They wouldn't die from a LITTLE creativity.
Wow, people actually play Quake by themselves? wierd. I haven't played a "shooter" game alone by myself since Doom.
Umm, Diablo _was_ arcade action with a dash or RPG elements like inventory and charatacter development.
Why couldn't a mage use a sword? obviously he would be less skilled than a warrior with it. I really like fallout/fallout2. I think that the single person with many skills is far superior to a rigid class.
Have you looked at WorldForge? You can code and play it. :)
http://www.worldforge.org
So what will loki do when all the companies start writing their own games in linux??
Because some of us would like to see games like fallout1 and 2 or maybe lba1 and 2.. and yes, some of us think that quack blows :) Right now, I have quite a few friends who would use linux but don't because of lack of games. This one looks good though. Hope they don't use the same combat system as in BG *shudder*. - rainy
Evidence? First you mutter (not unreasonably) about evidence, but then you dive headfirst into a steaming lake of pure, unadulterated cretinism . . . It's not in Lawson's Factionary. And Lawson is 100% canonical. If it ain't in there, it ain't a fact. That's the dumbest goddamn thing I ever heard in my life. You're joking. Please tell me you're joking. It's hard for me to come to terms with the idea that somebody as stupid as that is walking around loose.
It wasn't a valid viewpoint, it's blatant namecalling. One man's valid viewpoint is another man's blatant namecalling. The Aryan Nation pinheads don't like to be called racists. Tough shit. They are. Most people don't give a rat's arse about RPG geeks. They're too busy leading their own lives to be sick about a small minority of the populace. Nobody said that anybody wanders through the world worrying about it all day every day. It is, however, a fact that when normal people meet RPG geeks, their stomachs heave.
I stated in one thread that I really didn't like LOTR, and I asked if anyone felt the same way.
I'm with you. I ate it up when I was a kid, but when I went back to it fifteen years later, I found it unreadable. It sucked! It's so hard to find anything worth reading, and I lost that one. Bummer.
When someone says something bad about DMB , I do get a bit miffed...
Okay, I'll keep my mouth shut
to borrow something from Chris Rock, when it comes to you acting like an asshole "I can't say I approve -- but I understand"
Thanks.
. . . if not even more so. Someone needs to install a sense of humor. Like yesterday. My sense of humor is fine. I find Pratchett's sense of humor annoying. I've seen Anthony fans accuse detractors of lacking a sense of humor, too. Humor is subjective and personal. There are S. J. Perelman stories that put me in serious convulsions, but when I give them to other people I get blank looks. So it goes.
Although personally I'd shoot myself before I did a Mac version :) Umm, could you please specify your reasons why you'd rather do kill yourself than do a Mac version of a game?
Actually, the UO client has been ported to linux, but its unsupported.
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Actually, the UO client has been ported to linux, but its unsupported.
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Baloo was kind enough to make a copy of the chat transcript that TSR held on their chat site. He also has a copy of the FAQ there.
http://www2.crosswinds.net/~baloosj/ Baloo's page
-Andrew
Possibly because some of us think that Quake* sucks (or at least prefer playing Doom2). Not counting Quake, there's Civ:CTP and MythII, and soon to be Neverwinter Nights. 3 games is not exactly a great selection. I'll stick with my Dungeon Keeper 2, Sim City 3000, and Doom2, thanks.
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I've been waiting for a game like this for a long, long time. Particularly one that lets you run your own server and DM your own campaign.
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I think you and I are not the only ones who have become frustrated by the shortcomings of MMRPGs. MMRPGs are far from ideal because:
- Anonymity encourages (or at least does not discourage) disruptive behavior. I'm part of a pen-and-paper AD&D group. If someone were disruptive to the group, we'd ask them to leave. There is no such incentive when people pay you to be on their server. Even putting aside the PKing (which is a real problem, especially on UO), UO and EQ seem to be largely devoid of role-playing, and are more like irc with pictures.
- Server lag seems to be an inevitable part of MMRPG-ing. I have friends who took a liking to Everquest. They felt that the massive scale of EQ would prevent the kind of lag seen in Ultima Online. Still, they play sometimes at 2 AM to avoid server lag.
- Campaigns/plots do not really exist in MMRPGs, because there is not a DM available to run such a campaign. When you pay to spend 4 hours/day fishing, I'd say there's a plot problem.
- Monthly fees, even if they're low, is still a drag.
I've stayed away from UO and EQ, for the most part, because they don't run under Linux. It's not so much of a religious OS thing, as a practicality thing. I just don't feel like wasting the space on a Windows installation, and I keep my box up 24/7 and run services on it. These would be interrupted if I was dual-booting to Windows.This will allow me to play AD&D with gaming friends who have moved away. For this reason alone, I am anxiously awaiting this game. I hope they announce a ship date soon.
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i like games, and the graphics in some of them,
but i can never play a game for more than a few minutes without mentally disecting how they must
have done it. think making games be more fun.
At last a big RPG title for Linux, a AD&D one no less. If the sales for this game are big enough, I believe that the impression that there are no games for Linux will fade away. Almost all possible genres have been covered already.
I'd like to see Homeworld, C&C 2, and Jagged Alliance 2 for Linux.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
Games are great for Linux. Having them announced on Slashdot sure does help to find them. However, posting what clearly was written by some stupid marketing department is definitely Not Keen.
Anyone, ANYONE out there have the rulebook to "Top Secret" first edition? If you do, PLEASE contact me... I've been trying to find one for ages to replace my lost one... I miss that game!
If you find this commercial Neverwinter Nights game interesting, you will probably find the WorldForge project (www.worldforge.org) interesting. If you are a good artist, musician, or programmer, and have time to dedicate to helping, we'd love to have you. And we're of course always open to positive encouragement!
The WorldForge Project is building systems for massively multiplayer online roleplaying games, to be released freely under the GPL and OpenContent Public License.
WorldForge's approach is not to create a single game but instead a flexible framework that can support a variety of different kinds of servers, clients, rule sets, worlds, and so forth. We are developing a standardized protocol called Atlas to permit a "common language" between the various programs.
The screenshots and music are definitely worth checking out. We've also got a prototype demo client/server put together, which you can snag from our CVS archive if you're interested. We'll release distros and such in a week or so if there's interest.
-- Bryce
This is also an excelent time for building brand loyalty. Making a few games now when there aren't as many companies building games for Linux could pay off later when the Linux market is larger.
The Linux market is growing. It could also be argued that the growth in the Linux market consists of more sophisticated users than the growth in say the Windows market.
And there are certainly more users switching from Windows to Linux than from Linux to Windows.
It seems painfully obvious that the Linux market is worth spending a bit extra on development.
I am just happy to see all this attention from
commercial game manufactures
keep it coming
I can finally waste as many Brain Cells in Linux having fun. Than I could by bashing my head against the keyboard out of the frustration of windows just freezing and me losing my final term paper...
This is definitely a Good Thing(TM)
Earn cash in your spare time! Blackmail your friends!
Baldur's Gate rocked. The only other CRPG I've ever really liked was Wasteland (granted I haven't played too many of them, and I have never played a pen and paper), but I'm really excited about Neverwinter Nights.
I mean... it's from the same people who brought the world Baldur's Gate. It has to be good, but this time I get to play it from Linux, which makes it even better.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. -- Oscar Wilde
This is just great. I first saw Baldurs Gate a few months back at my brothers and dribbled all over his keyboard. Then discovered that some of my AD&D group have it too (we're a bunch of '30 somethings' that meet once a month to play a campaign that's nearly 3 years old now) and for the first time in a very long time questioned my exclusively Linux home setup.
:-)
Neverwinter Nights on Linix will be a dream come true for me. Good call guys! And thanks Slashdot for the article, I love this site
Macka
I've started flipping through the new 2nd edition expansion rulebooks at the local bookstore when no one's looking lately. The 3rd edition is going to pound my wallet yet again. Who can resist those cute little metal hobgoblins?
Way cool man. If they even keep half their promises... I especially like the bit about being able to build your own worlds. This has to rock. I want news like that every morning please!
Then again, there goes my intention to spend more time on "meaningful" things....
"No Games for Linux" begins to sound like a bad joke. World Domination in five years?
The whole DM access & host your own server thing is the clincher for me. My old gaming friends are spread thin across the entire country. Logging onto a lagging public server for a non-DMable game like Diablo pales before sitting around in a room with friends, playing with pencil, paper, and dice, and having a blast.
Hopefully this model will come closer to capturing the pen & paper games than the other so-called "RPG" computer games out there.
Damn, talk about a pessimist! The game has only just been announced, and already you're whining about "how bad it will be". Get a life, and give the thing a chance!
The original NWN had sucky graphics compared to today's, nowhere near as many spells, monsters, or other cool options. It was a *great* game for the time, but the new one would have to be one hideous monstrosity to not whup ass.
As for how big the game is, I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Smaller != better. DOS is a smaller OS than Linux, does that mean it's better?
Geez...
kmj
The only reason I keep my ms-dos partition is so I can mount it like the b*tch it is.
kmj
The only reason I keep my ms-dos partition is so I can mount it like the b*tch it is.
Actually, nobody knows what changes will be made in 3rd edition rules as they are not out yet. (Another big announcement at GenCon '99 was that 3rd edition will be released at GenCon '00)
2nd edition is what's in the stores now, and what Baldur's Gate and Planescape:Torment are based on.
I'll wait for this one to come out. I was just talking to my cousins about this one, and I hoped it would be coming out for linux! roxin!
Lowmag.net
Um...it has the same name and it's the same general type of game, but it's not the same thing as the old AOL version. It's being developed from scratch, it will use a 3D engine so it will have a zoomable, rotatable camera, and it's based on the 3rd edition AD&D rules. While I've never played the old AOL version ('cause I've never used AOL), I don't think you have to worry about it not having the same playability. Have you ever played Baldur's Gate? In my opinion, it's the best roleplaying game ever. Period. Bioware knows their stuff.
I've been a serious gamer for a while now, and I find myself spending an absurd amount of time anticipating yet to be released titles, but this one takes the cake. I have never been more excited about an upcoming release. The fact that there's a Linux version is just an unexpected bonus. I want this game.
I am not an idiot. Please use my name to email me.
"That's right, I'm quoting myself."
-Upsilon
I don't know why people are saying there are no games, I'm having a blast.
www.HearMySoulSpeak.com
Yeah, but it's also full of non-dweeby fuckups and non-fucked-up dweebs, not to mention a lot of people who just give a damn about software. Sometimes I get the impression that we're not welcome in the clubhouse. Other times I don't get that impression at all, but I just feel like being an asshole; that would be today, for example :)
;-)
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/. ... their superior attitude and assumptions do get to be a bit grating, espically when you're looking for intelligent discussion and all you find is their crap. So, to borrow something from Chris Rock, when it comes to you acting like an asshole "I can't say I approve -- but I understand"[2] ;-)
:-)
hehehehe...AC, whomever you are IRL, I hear you
When I was in my early teens, I tried D&D. I sat down with the books for about a week, tried to decipher the rules so that I could play with my (then) friends. I gave it an honest shot. After playing a couple of games, I said I really didn't like it, and when they asked why, I gave a few reasons. They proceeded to *scream* at me, and their arguments basically came down to that because there was more of them, their tastes were correct and mine weren't. Have you ever seen this type of argument on Slashdot?
I can say I have. When there was a discussion of Tolkien, I stated in one thread that I really didn't like LOTR, and I asked if anyone felt the same way. I remeber one person replied, and he stated that I was the only one that didn't like it, and then proceeded to insinuate that there was something wrong with me. It was like a flashback form my past.
Am I perfect about remaining calm and objective? Heck no. When someone says something bad about DMB[1], I do get a bit miffed...I try not to let it get to me, but if they continue pestering me with childish arguments, I'm not always pleasent. But, I keep *trying* to remeber that its their tastes, and they are entitled to their own opinions. So, Joe Reader, remeber, just because we have similar intrests and read the same web site does not mean we're one and the same.
Now, as far as acting like an asshole goes, well I can't say I approve. But, a certain resentment does build up to the zealots on
[1] Dave Matthews' Band...*duh*
[2] I *think* this was the phrase...
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I agree. I love the idea of being able to do the 'small hosted environment' with a small bunch of friends. Baldur's Gate MP originally had some of this promise, being able to get with friends, and have a blast.
I'm wondering how this will do now that it will be competing for a part of the same audience that is now involved in MMRPGs like UO and EQ. I love the concept in both games, but there are times that both have frustrated the hell out of me.
Having a small, informal party setting like this would be akin to hosting those get-together murder mystery party games. The best part would be that every week another person could throw together a new adventure.
Looks like some fun could be had...
--sugarman--
The game is now called "Dungeons and Dragons 3rd Edition". WotC has dropped the "Advanced".
But for all who haven't been paying attention to r.g.f.d (*tsk tsk*), here's a very quick summary of the changes (that I can remember, anyway):
The core books (PH, DMG, MM) are slated for release in one month intervals beginning *next* August, priced at $20US. There will conversion rules, but there were hints that WotC is encouraging DM to "wind their campaigns down" before switching. (In other words, it may not be possible to convert everything.)
As for NWN, there is an article here and a much more informative interview here.
Why old-fashioned? It's been 14 years since I seriously played AD&D... I probably still have my books somewhere. Geez, I remember dreaming stuff like this up, but it just lost it's appeal after a while. I guess the folks I played with ran out of imagination, and things were just too predictable. (Oh, well.)
I like the mage... I just wish I could set my office up like that... It'd sure slow the flow of stupid questions...
Also, their background makes nice wallpaper!
"...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
I mean, have a !@#%$ day at work, come home, log on, grab that joystick (not that one, the other one! sick perverts...) and munch my way through a party of adventurers... BURP!
God, sometimes that would just make my day.
"...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
AD&D is actually one of the more complex rules systems out there. Not quite as bad as GURPS with all the options turned on, but the only reason AD&D is considered "newbie friendly", I think, it the fact that it's older than dirt. You can find people who know the system everywhere.
These are *MY* opinions.
They will not be *YOUR* opinions until the Orbital Mind Control Lasers are operati
... could you possibly fit in a couple more incorrect stereotypes?
Yeah, there's a lot of unbathing, overweight geeks who play D&D (or other roleplaying games).
There's a lot of "normal people" who do too. I like to count myself amongst those normal people.
Gaming *is* my interest.
On another note, I can understand slamming Piers Anthony... but PRATCHETT!? Someone needs to install a sense of humor. Like yesterday.
These are *MY* opinions.
They will not be *YOUR* opinions until the Orbital Mind Control Lasers are operati
Humor is definitely personal. I love Spider Robinson's Callahan's Place stories; others can't get past the puns. (But I still think people who can't get Pratchett are fooey. neener, neener.)
These are *MY* opinions.
They will not be *YOUR* opinions until the Orbital Mind Control Lasers are operati
Wasn't Fallout originally designed under the GURPS? I seem to recally Interplay having a falling-out (no pun intended) with Steve Jackson... which forced them to design the SPECIAL system for the current FO1 and FO2.
I played NWN on AOL as well, and really enjoyed it (to the tune of ~100 hours per month at the rate of $4/hr., plus long distance charges). I was very dissappointed when the game was closed down and am glad to see it revived so---hopefully they'll balance playability, character advancement, etc. I wonder if they have the old character records and would be able/willing to restore them as a reward for those of us who supported the game early on? William -- Lettering Art in Modern Use http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
You don't quit gaming because you get old - you get old because you quit gaming ^_^
I remember this game while using AOL *hack* *cough*. Back in those day, it used EGA grapics (no fancy 256 color VGA, this was beautiful 16 EGA), the PC speaker for beautiful sound (and noone can forget the classic title music), and took up only 1.3 megs disk space.
So now what? It's coming for linux, which is good, but because it's 1999, they're gonna find a way to bloat a game from 1.3 megs to 400+.
While playing NWN in it's AOL incarnation probably wouldn't pass as fun these days, I bet anything that this game isn't going to come close to playability that the original had. It's a shame too.. With all the storage space, grapics capabilities, sound capabilites, and multi-platform development, you'd think they'd be able to do something with it.
I guess we can only wait and see how it turns out. I'm hoping for the better, but expecting nothing.
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OK, I'm fine now.
You believe the D&D stereotype? Dude, you deserve *everything* you get, and what's more, you're lucky if that's all you get...
Lives and interests? How much do you know about D&Ders' lives? What the f##k is D&D if it's not an interest? You diss imaginative, passionate, creative, social people... Come on AC, what the f$%k is so good about your life that enables you to be such a t&*t?
Troll, or f@@kwit.
(I don't play D&D, but this guy is out of order...)
I still have every issue of Dragon and, later, Dungeon magazine I ever bought (except for two that were stolen, grr), plus all the original books (um, well, you know the first hardbound Monster Manual, Players Handbook and Dungeon Masters Guide, you know the ones with the cool Demon Idol (with the thieves stealing the jewel eye) and the DMG Efreeti on the cover. Oh, and the original Ravenloft module... but I only have the reprint of Tomb of Horrors ;_;
(I always preferred Dr. Who to Star Trek though, I think just because I liked the continuing storylines as well as the Daleks and the Cybermen.)
Anybody else out there remember What's New? (with Phil and Dixie?) or Snarfquest? those were some great comic strips, sigh....
All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
Say what!? I sure don't see how it's logical to think that a mage would be unable to figure out how to swing a sword. Maybe if said mage spends all his time studying, he wouldn't be very skilled with a sword. Maybe he wouldn't be very conditioned, and he would tire quickly... but as a fencing enthusiast I can tell you he'd damned well be able to at least use it. In fact I think it would be tough to imagine a time when a mage (or any half way healthy and moble person) would be better off in an open fight with a dagger than a light saber or rapier. Sure no studious guy with 10' biceps is going to be swining a no-dachi or a claymore... but whoever decided that being a mage precludes using anything but a dagger, staff, or sling is smoking ass.
What would make the classes different, you ask? They would be good at different things. But I don't see the need to have classes at all. It's sort of a restrictive crutch. Sure a person could have a proffesion, but I don't think it should be anything more inflexible than that. Let's try to get a GURPS game out there, eh?
I'm a gnu world man.
Could you post the right one? I'd really like to check out those new rules.
I'm a gnu world man.
Great, I managed to quit the AD&D habit 3 years ago, and now I know that I am gonna fall off the wagon again. Thanks...
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Ugh, I can't *believe* so many RP'ers are concentrated in one /. topic and this is the most imflammatory troll someone can come up with. HeeHee. Yes, we're all losers. Grossly overweight. Yeah, sure...we're all in league with Satan too(until MS buys them out)! Why, the other day I broke into a church and filled the altar service with peas and carrots...I make crank calls to the 700 Club claiming to be Hell's lawyer after royalties! You know, I could ramble on, but bandwidth is sacred. I shall sum up: "When you can grab the irony from my hand, Grasshopper, then you will be ready to troll" or possibly "Methinks you protest too much."
No monthly fee? The ability for any ol' homey to set up a server? DM access? Dev for multiple platforms?
;-)
Hm. Sounds like the 3rd ed. changed a bit, 'tho, from the rules I'm used to. Interesting; dunno if that's good or bad, 'tho.
The fact that they've considered how to balance characters 'tween, say, Monty Haul games and more stingy modules is a positive sign.
If only they allowed players to control monsters for a lark... it might be amusing to compete, say, as Trolls to see how many PCs one can eat within a given time.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
You have to just love how that point always somehow manages to come up when you start arguing the differences between multiple OSes. I know it comes up a lot when arging re MacOS. A lot of the same useless facts used in Mac vs Windows has been ported over linux. Once this is released it will slowly diminish the validity of that argument (as useless and almost pointless as it is).
Most people can't even put up a decent argument worth arguing. The more intelligent ones seem to understand that each OS has its place. There is no "Ultimate" OS. Linux still has a bit to go before it can come close.
~~~NO CARRIER~~~