Oil reserves are increasingly hard to extract, so cheaper is not necessarily likely, even if demand falls. In fact if demand falls, then a lot of extraction becomes uneconomic, and production can fall off a cliff. You could end up with lots of ICE cars, but nothing much to power them with.
If one crashes into your rear, it is his fault: because he did not keep safe distance.
I don't disagree. I am simply describing what happens, not excusing it. Just because the person hitting you from behind is at fault, doesn't mean that you get any less injured by being rear-ended, even if you can sue. When I was learning to drive the instructor would check behind before an emergency stop (which gave the game away a little) rather than just suing the person behind should they have hit us. On the highway I keep an eye on how close people are behind me, not that I can always mitigate closeness by changing lanes. Realistically, though, people rarely leave enough space.
The issue of induced traffic jams is more complex, but the concertina distribution is known to be a large factor in them. If there is a traffic jam that costs $X in delays for many people, is anyone liable?
I said his name within the context of: the "sanctuary" state of California
Try reading your own link. California has signed a bill which limits some cooperation with Federal border enforcement where no other crime has been committed, but there is no sanctuary from deportation. I might not agree with the new legal framework, but that doesn't mean that mischaracterisation by the use of the word sanctuary, which has a specific meaning of prevention of the discharge of a sentence or other legal action, is appropriate. If there's anything I hate, it's that sort of intellectual dishonesty.
that he was unlicensed
What if he had a 'white' sounding name. Would this be significant? If you feel that this fact is only significant if he has a Hispanic name, then the fact that you are reacting to is his name. To me, however, a significant set of circumstances is new car, young, and unlicensed, which might mean it was stolen, or a parental car 'borrowed'.
the highly unusual circumstances of a flipped car, 3 police officers sent to the hospital, all without a license, and not even a citation
There's a difference between one not having been reported and there having been no sanction, and it is not safe to assume there will be no sanction.
In addition, you've shown yourself to be woefully (or willfully) ignorant on the facts surrounding illegal immigration in California.
Not at all
Rather than address the issues, you retreat to waiting for facts that will never arrive
Rather than jumping to conclusions. Just because they may not be reported to you doesn't make his status change. His status may be reported later. At this point we don't know.
No, just noting what very often happens when in traffic which is driving too close. In that case the Tesla stopping suddenly is dangerous, as even if everyone should be driving at the proper distance and paying attention, in dense highway traffic it is often not the case.
Even if it is snowing, in you are in a state with large urban centres then if it is, and you want pizza, you get someone else to deliver it a relatively short distance (We once ordered pizza in the UK from a pizza place 100 yards away when it was snowing heavily and we didn't have any other food in). If you are in the sticks in a less densely, it's 20 miles each way. Ok, silly example, but you get the idea.
So everyone with a Hispanic name must be an illegal immigrant!
So you're from the Cathy Newman school of argument, right? You're pathetic strawman
removes all the context.
You are the one that suggested the name was an indicator that the person was likely to be an illegal immigrant. I am merely pointing out that you are over generalising.
I won't respond to the rest of the post at present, but rather let us wait to see whether the person turns out to be an illegal or not.
I was going to be more charitable and say that because, on average, people need to drive further to get to anywhere in SC, then people drive more, including times when people might not in CA.
But that wouldn't explain higher deaths per mile.
It would to some extent. If you have to drive to get anything done, you may drive when you or conditions are not suitable, which would lead to a higher rate of accidents. Vehicle condition and speed are other potential factors.
The other factor might be relative wealth and environmental requirements for cars. California is, on average, better off, and stricter regulations might mean (no, I don't have figures) a younger vehicle fleet in better repair on average, making crashes more survivable. A third factor might be that in nose-to-tail LA jams, no one is going to get up the speed or kinetic energy to kill anyone, except maybe a few dying of boredom.
I was going to be more charitable and say that because, on average, people need to drive further to get to anywhere in SC, then people drive more, including times when people might not in CA. E.g. want a light night pizza with the game? In SC you are probably more likely to have to drive to the pizza place. Granted, I've never been to SC, only NC, which has denser urban centres, but I can see how it could happen, as neither have the urban sprawls of California, which also bring with them easy access to a wide variety of food delivery services.
Wow, just wow. California is flooded with illegal immigrants./p>
So everyone with a Hispanic name must be an illegal immigrant!
God forbid a stereotype is actually true.
Is my friend with a Hispanic name an illegal immigrant? Generalise much?
Do you actually think anybody else would have been allowed to flip his car, crash into a police car, send 3 police into the hospital, all without a license, and not even been cited?
If you think the police are lenient on illegal immigrants you live in some sort of fantasy world of right-wing talking heads. Maybe, he's from a very wealthy family, and that is the reason why - after all, he was driving an expensive car. If he's an illegal immigrant maybe they are going to not bother with the paperwork of citation and just deport him?
We have a state that's declared itself a "sanctuary" state
You seem to have confused state with a few cities.
If traffic is dense then given reaction time it can result in a rear ending several cars back, and can lead to traffic jams. It's a known issue. Indulging in actions known to cause such issues without cause can get human drivers ticketed. A ticket is rare, as it's hard to prove, but a Tesla would be auditing itself, and the action would be provably not the decision of the driver.
Wow, just wow. It's an expensive car, and a young driver, so just as easily a kid taking his dad's car. A friend of mine in the USA has a Hispanic sounding name. That's because his family is from Spain.
My GPS once insisted I drive into a car full of longhorn cattle, so I am pretty sure it could tell me to drive through something concrete too. Note, I didn't drive into the field.
2. Similarly, two hands on the wheel will detect if the driver lets go for more than a few seconds, triggering a warning & after.a few seconds Disable the self-driving.
Pay attention, or the car shuts down.
Because if people are not paying attention, then handing them back control is the ideal solution, even if we do or don't know if they have understood which day of the week it is, let alone appraised the situation. Cf. aircraft control handover procedures. The car shutting down is different to handing over driving, and unexpectedly parked cars in the middle of highways aren't helpful.
As other post pointed out, but we are okay with many autopilot related aircraft accidents. And somehow it's a big deal if it's Tesla.
But I agree, the autopilot feature at this point is just distraction for Tesla. They should just focus on EV technology.
Just about all commercial aircraft use an autopilot. There are few crashes. Very few cars use it, and there are few crashes, but what is the proportionate rate comparison?
Plenty of people have suggested that it should pull over to the side of the road safely and stop if there is any sign of a disconnect between autopilot and the driver, but sadly, this has not been implemented.
If it can't be trusted to avoid stationary objects, I am not sure we want it pulling over by itself. And how does it know when or where it is safe to stop, and where to stop without causing a traffic jam?
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Oil reserves are increasingly hard to extract, so cheaper is not necessarily likely, even if demand falls. In fact if demand falls, then a lot of extraction becomes uneconomic, and production can fall off a cliff. You could end up with lots of ICE cars, but nothing much to power them with.
If one crashes into your rear, it is his fault: because he did not keep safe distance.
I don't disagree. I am simply describing what happens, not excusing it. Just because the person hitting you from behind is at fault, doesn't mean that you get any less injured by being rear-ended, even if you can sue. When I was learning to drive the instructor would check behind before an emergency stop (which gave the game away a little) rather than just suing the person behind should they have hit us. On the highway I keep an eye on how close people are behind me, not that I can always mitigate closeness by changing lanes. Realistically, though, people rarely leave enough space.
The issue of induced traffic jams is more complex, but the concertina distribution is known to be a large factor in them. If there is a traffic jam that costs $X in delays for many people, is anyone liable?
I said his name within the context of: the "sanctuary" state of California
Try reading your own link. California has signed a bill which limits some cooperation with Federal border enforcement where no other crime has been committed, but there is no sanctuary from deportation. I might not agree with the new legal framework, but that doesn't mean that mischaracterisation by the use of the word sanctuary, which has a specific meaning of prevention of the discharge of a sentence or other legal action, is appropriate. If there's anything I hate, it's that sort of intellectual dishonesty.
that he was unlicensed
What if he had a 'white' sounding name. Would this be significant? If you feel that this fact is only significant if he has a Hispanic name, then the fact that you are reacting to is his name. To me, however, a significant set of circumstances is new car, young, and unlicensed, which might mean it was stolen, or a parental car 'borrowed'.
the highly unusual circumstances of a flipped car, 3 police officers sent to the hospital, all without a license, and not even a citation
There's a difference between one not having been reported and there having been no sanction, and it is not safe to assume there will be no sanction.
In addition, you've shown yourself to be woefully (or willfully) ignorant on the facts surrounding illegal immigration in California.
Not at all
Rather than address the issues, you retreat to waiting for facts that will never arrive
Rather than jumping to conclusions. Just because they may not be reported to you doesn't make his status change. His status may be reported later. At this point we don't know.
Hispanic name, unlicensed driver?
which seems to very much reference the name origin.
No, just noting what very often happens when in traffic which is driving too close. In that case the Tesla stopping suddenly is dangerous, as even if everyone should be driving at the proper distance and paying attention, in dense highway traffic it is often not the case.
Even if it is snowing, in you are in a state with large urban centres then if it is, and you want pizza, you get someone else to deliver it a relatively short distance (We once ordered pizza in the UK from a pizza place 100 yards away when it was snowing heavily and we didn't have any other food in). If you are in the sticks in a less densely, it's 20 miles each way. Ok, silly example, but you get the idea.
I see it wasn't a Tesla in this case, but a 2018 Sentra.
So everyone with a Hispanic name must be an illegal immigrant!
So you're from the Cathy Newman school of argument, right? You're pathetic strawman removes all the context.
You are the one that suggested the name was an indicator that the person was likely to be an illegal immigrant. I am merely pointing out that you are over generalising.
I won't respond to the rest of the post at present, but rather let us wait to see whether the person turns out to be an illegal or not.
But that wouldn't explain higher deaths per mile.
It would to some extent. If you have to drive to get anything done, you may drive when you or conditions are not suitable, which would lead to a higher rate of accidents. Vehicle condition and speed are other potential factors.
The other factor might be relative wealth and environmental requirements for cars. California is, on average, better off, and stricter regulations might mean (no, I don't have figures) a younger vehicle fleet in better repair on average, making crashes more survivable. A third factor might be that in nose-to-tail LA jams, no one is going to get up the speed or kinetic energy to kill anyone, except maybe a few dying of boredom.
I was going to be more charitable and say that because, on average, people need to drive further to get to anywhere in SC, then people drive more, including times when people might not in CA. E.g. want a light night pizza with the game? In SC you are probably more likely to have to drive to the pizza place. Granted, I've never been to SC, only NC, which has denser urban centres, but I can see how it could happen, as neither have the urban sprawls of California, which also bring with them easy access to a wide variety of food delivery services.
Wow, just wow. California is flooded with illegal immigrants./p>
So everyone with a Hispanic name must be an illegal immigrant!
God forbid a stereotype is actually true.
Is my friend with a Hispanic name an illegal immigrant? Generalise much?
Do you actually think anybody else would have been allowed to flip his car, crash into a police car, send 3 police into the hospital, all without a license, and not even been cited?
If you think the police are lenient on illegal immigrants you live in some sort of fantasy world of right-wing talking heads. Maybe, he's from a very wealthy family, and that is the reason why - after all, he was driving an expensive car. If he's an illegal immigrant maybe they are going to not bother with the paperwork of citation and just deport him?
We have a state that's declared itself a "sanctuary" state
You seem to have confused state with a few cities.
My cat and dog have tried, but my ass has phoned most.
P.S. It doesn't take a collision to cause a jam. Just bunching can lead to one developing
If traffic is dense then given reaction time it can result in a rear ending several cars back, and can lead to traffic jams. It's a known issue. Indulging in actions known to cause such issues without cause can get human drivers ticketed. A ticket is rare, as it's hard to prove, but a Tesla would be auditing itself, and the action would be provably not the decision of the driver.
Wow, just wow. It's an expensive car, and a young driver, so just as easily a kid taking his dad's car. A friend of mine in the USA has a Hispanic sounding name. That's because his family is from Spain.
If you fall asleep while driving,
The issue is that you AREN'T, the car is.
Is the difference with South Carolina density of habitation? I.e. few opportunities per mile driven to see, let alone run over, a pedestrian?
My GPS once insisted I drive into a car full of longhorn cattle, so I am pretty sure it could tell me to drive through something concrete too. Note, I didn't drive into the field.
Where does it say he was an illegal immigrant?
o range detection, if you close up to close to the car in front of you [...] the car _automatically_ brakes.
Hmmm, known to cause accidents, and traffic jams.
You can only eff and blind when in a lane? Noted.
2. Similarly, two hands on the wheel will detect if the driver lets go for more than a few seconds, triggering a warning & after.a few seconds Disable the self-driving.
Pay attention, or the car shuts down.
Because if people are not paying attention, then handing them back control is the ideal solution, even if we do or don't know if they have understood which day of the week it is, let alone appraised the situation. Cf. aircraft control handover procedures. The car shutting down is different to handing over driving, and unexpectedly parked cars in the middle of highways aren't helpful.
As other post pointed out, but we are okay with many autopilot related aircraft accidents. And somehow it's a big deal if it's Tesla.
But I agree, the autopilot feature at this point is just distraction for Tesla. They should just focus on EV technology.
Just about all commercial aircraft use an autopilot. There are few crashes. Very few cars use it, and there are few crashes, but what is the proportionate rate comparison?
Plenty of people have suggested that it should pull over to the side of the road safely and stop if there is any sign of a disconnect between autopilot and the driver, but sadly, this has not been implemented.
If it can't be trusted to avoid stationary objects, I am not sure we want it pulling over by itself. And how does it know when or where it is safe to stop, and where to stop without causing a traffic jam?