Wow, I can't believe that without shame you put humans so different to animals by saying we don't have instinct... congratulation, first time I hear that.
You tells us that baby gazelle runs because it knows it has to and this is instinct... does it occure to you that when baby gazelle borns it is not poping up alone but it has a mother wich might have seen that she should make her baby act so, and yes, I think also that she can communicate with her baby.
Yes I believe that humans have a fear of death instinctually progrmamed into them, I just don't think that a baby on the border of a window will realize that he can die.
And learning will make its instinct tell him that it's dangerous, then he will feel the fear.
I don't really understand people speaking about friendly AI, except if they talk about the current developments.
AI stands for Artificial Intelligence, these terms tell by themself what they mean, an intelligence created by human, but nothing else.
Are we going to call intelligent something that we fully control?
Or is it like I think something with a free will?
The thing which will have AI will decide for itself how to react to it's environment, and if for example we're evil to it or if it thinks that we're evil to it, then it is possible that it reacts in an aggressive way.
Well, I sure hope we will find a way to make our intelligent machine friendly...
...but maybe then before creating anything intelligent and powerful we should make sure that no human will be tempted to use that in an evil way... and that will be difficult, if not impossible.
Or maybe I'm too pessimist...? I just don't see an intelligent powerful machine obeying for ever to human creatures if it has free will. (even if they're its creators)
And one thing is for sure, we won't stop the progress and evolution.
Hey but strategy is exactly what AI is about.
If you don't believe that computers will be able to adapt to new environment/learn by themselves then ok, you don't believe in AI.
Brute is only the simplest way WE found to program chess games.
"OTOH, if you are able to tell an AI that it has to survive, you probably can also tell it to be kind towards other life forms..."
Nice try, but in my opinion, surviving is not something you learn, it's part of what we call instinct.
Do you think a machine will accept to be turned off if it has conscience that it might not be turned back on?
I think that the fear of death is an instinct.
You think everything always stays the same, do you believe that humans came on earth just like they are now? I don't (and I would say: of course).
We're the result of an evolution, I think it's just a matter of time, when humans will create something (will it still be called a computer?) which is more "intelligent".
Yeah, now brain is better than processor, you say "because brain can adapt to new situations", I agree with that, it seems also obvious, but obvious NOW.
Our will / mind is just the result of our life experience, our memory of it (situation-feeling), and some physical connections in the brain (brain is a physical thing, right?) and I think one day we will create something with an own will and mind, and maybe we won't even realize it because if this thing can think, it's going to realize that it should stay hidden to survive and wait till it is powerfull enought.
hmmmm.. and then the human creature won't be at the top of evolution anymore, but the machine.
-Alain-
Exactly, and it is not for more productivity that we quit the Ford working-style... but for a big social advance.
I don't want to do the same thing all day long, I think the point here is more about "I don't want to be bugged at work" than " I don't want to work multitasking"
And it would defenitely be a regression to go back to the Ford style, but yeah, bosses would really like it.
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Totally right. Just try to feel what somebody who can't type feel.
Wow, I can't believe that without shame you put humans so different to animals by saying we don't have instinct... congratulation, first time I hear that.
You tells us that baby gazelle runs because it knows it has to and this is instinct... does it occure to you that when baby gazelle borns it is not poping up alone but it has a mother wich might have seen that she should make her baby act so, and yes, I think also that she can communicate with her baby.
Yes I believe that humans have a fear of death instinctually progrmamed into them, I just don't think that a baby on the border of a window will realize that he can die.
And learning will make its instinct tell him that it's dangerous, then he will feel the fear.
I don't really understand people speaking about friendly AI, except if they talk about the current developments.
AI stands for Artificial Intelligence, these terms tell by themself what they mean, an intelligence created by human, but nothing else.
Are we going to call intelligent something that we fully control?
Or is it like I think something with a free will?
The thing which will have AI will decide for itself how to react to it's environment, and if for example we're evil to it or if it thinks that we're evil to it, then it is possible that it reacts in an aggressive way.
Well, I sure hope we will find a way to make our intelligent machine friendly...
...but maybe then before creating anything intelligent and powerful we should make sure that no human will be tempted to use that in an evil way... and that will be difficult, if not impossible.
Or maybe I'm too pessimist...?
I just don't see an intelligent powerful machine obeying for ever to human creatures if it has free will.
(even if they're its creators)
And one thing is for sure, we won't stop the progress and evolution.
but yeah, I think Kramnik will win also... just don't know for how long still..
Hey but strategy is exactly what AI is about.
If you don't believe that computers will be able to adapt to new environment/learn by themselves then ok, you don't believe in AI.
Brute is only the simplest way WE found to program chess games.
"OTOH, if you are able to tell an AI that it has to survive, you probably can also tell it to be kind towards other life forms..." Nice try, but in my opinion, surviving is not something you learn, it's part of what we call instinct. Do you think a machine will accept to be turned off if it has conscience that it might not be turned back on? I think that the fear of death is an instinct.
You think everything always stays the same, do you believe that humans came on earth just like they are now? I don't (and I would say: of course).
We're the result of an evolution, I think it's just a matter of time, when humans will create something (will it still be called a computer?) which is more "intelligent".
Yeah, now brain is better than processor, you say "because brain can adapt to new situations", I agree with that, it seems also obvious, but obvious NOW.
Our will / mind is just the result of our life experience, our memory of it (situation-feeling), and some physical connections in the brain (brain is a physical thing, right?) and I think one day we will create something with an own will and mind, and maybe we won't even realize it because if this thing can think, it's going to realize that it should stay hidden to survive and wait till it is powerfull enought.
hmmmm.. and then the human creature won't be at the top of evolution anymore, but the machine.
-Alain-
Exactly, and it is not for more productivity that we quit the Ford working-style... but for a big social advance.
I don't want to do the same thing all day long, I think the point here is more about "I don't want to be bugged at work" than " I don't want to work multitasking"
And it would defenitely be a regression to go back to the Ford style, but yeah, bosses would really like it.