And I truly hope that you can keep your job at that big company of yours so you can afford to by my companies speakers when they hit the market soon. Especially the pc version! We're bringing audiophile quality to the consumer for affordable prices. Remember the name. The Kind Horn Company. Web site appearing in September.
Anyway I think the dell rep could have been a little more professional!
The ONLY thing I heard was that he had NOTHING to say other than "we're making lots of money from Windows sales so just go away buddy..."
That's not doing Dell, Microsoft or anybody any good at all! Why couldn't he have said something to the effect, "We really don't see enough demand to sell Linux (or no OS) loaded machines so we've discontinued that practice"
I've spoken with dell reps in the past and they never, never were so arrogant, self righteous and Un-Professional...
As for the comment about graduating from the "piddly failing.com to something with a real IT budget" this is were YOU are really way off base! How do you suppose that my small company is failing? No one made any such statement. Piddly? So any company that doesn't have over 500 employees doesn't get any respect from you? And where on earth did you ever get the idea that my company has anything to do with the.com phenomenon? You couldn't be more wrong!!!
Since you don't have a clue here... I'm a MANUFACTURER!!! Most companies in this country are under 50 employees. So don't bad mouth people in this category. We make up over 90% of ALL workers in this (U.S.) country. We are the backbone of the economy!!! Will you be one of the next 50, 100 or 200 people who suddenly loose there jobs at your company when the next consolidation comes along?? People in large companies get axed all the time! Employees are "a dime a dozen" in large companies. Give us some respect and you'll get yours (respect) too.
What I'd like to make clear is that it's my belief that Dell can do whatever they want! I just think the rep didn't need to be so nasty! As a consumer I think Dell looses nothing to offer Linux as an alternative for customers. Perhaps there's no money to be made? So it's up to them to decide! And just so you don't misunderstand I'll tell you something else which will probably get me plenty of flaming from/.
I think Microsoft can do whatever they want with there software! Bundling is o.k.! This is a red herring. If Microsoft can't bundle there software than I suppose I should just get a kernel and download everything else and make my own distribution??? That's ludicrous! Only thing Microsoft really does is use there size (way more than 500 by the way:) ) and influence to intimidate and otherwise stiffle competition. No doubt they had much to do with Dell's decision here..
Freedom of choice is good. So Dell can do what they want and Microsoft Will do what they want! That's that.
I'm a pragmatic idealist and so I'll just let bygones be bygones.
Well if YOU checked it out You would find out that it IS TRUE! If you noticed that this becomes effective 8/26 you wouldn't make statements about suing/. !!!!
I called dell and asked if there is any truth to the/. article. And there rep confirmed that it is 100% factual, as in TRUE!!!!
Please read my response at/.!!!
They are arrogant, self-righteous bastards!
Microsoft and Ashcroft Dell from Hell What a bunch of A-holes There souls to the devil More than willing to Sell
I couldn't believe it when I read what M#@*$#Soft had done...AGAIN!! So I called up a Dell rep and brought up the/. article. I spoke with a rep in charge of small business sales. Apparently any business with less than 400 employees is SMALL to Dell! I reckon that's about 90% of ALL businesses...Instead of politely and professionaly giving some sound, logical reason why they had made this policy decision he simply, arrogantly stated "Well, we don't have any problem selling computers with Microsoft OS's installed".......
Then I calmly stated that "you're going to have a lot of backlash from this decision. People wont like this. You're going to lose a lot of POENTIAL future customers because of this!"
To which he again reiterated his previous stance "Well we just wont know what we missed, will we? We don't have any trouble selling systems with Microsoft software installed"....
I suppose that this is truly a match made in HELL!
Arrogant, greedy, self righteous fucking bastards! As the owner of a small business that's about to become quite large I say "FUCK YOU DELL AND MICROSOFT!!!" My corporate policy is NEVER USE MICROSOFT OR DELL PRODUCTS! These are truly evil enterprises!
P.S. Have a lovely Open Source Day...Share your FREE as in FREEDOM Open Source Love Today:)
I think we should celebrate this move in a big, BIG way. Let's all have a big party and invite all are (local) area internet friends. Everyone bring ALL there CD's, MP3's, Vinyl, etc..And we'll all share/swap EVERYTHING!!!!!
Now what will they do? Send the IP Police? Or just MS staffers with search dogs?
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One more thing I forgot..
:)
I don't drink Mnt. Dew!
And I truly hope that you can keep your job at that big company of yours so you can afford to by my companies speakers when they hit the market soon. Especially the pc version! We're bringing audiophile quality to the consumer for affordable prices. Remember the name. The Kind Horn Company. Web site appearing in September.
God Bless you and have a wonderfull day
I guess I just got a little too excited, right?
.com phenomenon? You couldn't be more wrong!!!
/.
:) ) and influence to intimidate and otherwise stiffle competition. No doubt they had much to do with Dell's decision here..
Anyway I think the dell rep could have been a little more professional!
The ONLY thing I heard was that he had NOTHING to say other than "we're making lots of money from Windows sales so just go away buddy..."
That's not doing Dell, Microsoft or anybody any good at all! Why couldn't he have said something to the effect, "We really don't see enough demand to sell Linux (or no OS) loaded machines so we've discontinued that practice"
I've spoken with dell reps in the past and they never, never were so arrogant, self righteous and Un-Professional...
As for the comment about graduating from the "piddly failing.com to something with a real IT budget" this is were YOU are really way off base! How do you suppose that my small company is failing? No one made any such statement. Piddly? So any company that doesn't have over 500 employees doesn't get any respect from you?
And where on earth did you ever get the idea that my company has anything to do with the
Since you don't have a clue here...
I'm a MANUFACTURER!!! Most companies in this country are under 50 employees. So don't bad mouth people in this category. We make up over 90% of ALL workers in this (U.S.) country. We are the backbone of the economy!!! Will you be one of the next 50, 100 or 200 people who suddenly loose there jobs at your company when the next consolidation comes along?? People in large companies get axed all the time! Employees are "a dime a dozen" in large companies. Give us some respect and you'll get yours (respect) too.
What I'd like to make clear is that it's my belief that Dell can do whatever they want! I just think the rep didn't need to be so nasty! As a consumer I think Dell looses nothing to offer Linux as an alternative for customers. Perhaps there's no money to be made? So it's up to them to decide! And just so you don't misunderstand I'll tell you something else which will probably get me plenty of flaming from
I think Microsoft can do whatever they want with there software! Bundling is o.k.! This is a red herring. If Microsoft can't bundle there software than I suppose I should just get a kernel and download everything else and make my own distribution??? That's ludicrous! Only thing Microsoft really does is use there size (way more than 500 by the way
Freedom of choice is good. So Dell can do what they want and Microsoft Will do what they want!
That's that.
I'm a pragmatic idealist and so I'll just let bygones be bygones.
P.S. Have a good one ~dlb
Well if YOU checked it out You would find out that it IS TRUE! If you noticed that this becomes effective 8/26 you wouldn't make statements about suing /. !!!!
/. article. And there rep confirmed that it is 100% factual, as in TRUE!!!!
/.!!!
I called dell and asked if there is any truth to the
Please read my response at
They are arrogant, self-righteous bastards!
Microsoft and Ashcroft
Dell from Hell
What a bunch of A-holes
There souls to the devil
More than willing to Sell
I couldn't believe it when I read what M#@*$#Soft had done...AGAIN!! So I called up a Dell rep and brought up the /. article. I spoke with a rep in charge of small business sales. Apparently any business with less than 400 employees is SMALL to Dell! I reckon that's about 90% of ALL businesses...Instead of politely and professionaly giving some sound, logical reason why they had made this policy decision he simply, arrogantly stated "Well, we don't have any problem selling computers with Microsoft OS's installed".......
:)
Then I calmly stated that "you're going to have a lot of backlash from this decision. People wont like this. You're going to lose a lot of POENTIAL future customers because of this!"
To which he again reiterated his previous stance "Well we just wont know what we missed, will we? We don't have any trouble selling systems with Microsoft software installed"....
I suppose that this is truly a match made in HELL!
Arrogant, greedy, self righteous fucking bastards! As the owner of a small business that's about to become quite large I say "FUCK YOU DELL AND MICROSOFT!!!" My corporate policy is NEVER USE MICROSOFT OR DELL PRODUCTS! These are truly evil enterprises!
P.S. Have a lovely Open Source Day...Share your FREE as in FREEDOM Open Source Love Today
I think we should celebrate this move in a big, BIG way. Let's all have a big party and invite all are (local) area internet friends. Everyone bring ALL there CD's, MP3's, Vinyl, etc..And we'll all share/swap EVERYTHING!!!!!
Now what will they do? Send the IP Police? Or just MS staffers with search dogs?
No really! Let's PARTY!!!
P.S. Pants optional