By your analogy all he said he did was shoot a gun he never said any thing about killing anyone. There are perfectly legal resions to copy a cd. I copied a cd once to test out my burner (I've never bothered since).
Well the canadians I'm talking about don't live verry that far from the US boarder and in keeping with canadian culture they drink copious amounts of beer. Now they do buy most of there beer in canada but when ever they do go to the US they make sure to geta LOT of beer.
Linux didn't steal shit otherwise someone would post some code comparissions by now. It's not exacly hard to get the code (There both free for download).
So my message to you trolls is put up or shut up.
I want to see proof showing that the code used in the linux kernel was copyed from BSD.
Until then go fuck you self.
That's funny in "Just for fun" Linus talks about how they built the first TCP stack out of a sockets interface one guy wrote so he could run X11 on Linux. Another poster pointed out here how the systemcalls are different and there for it is likely that Linux never used a BSD TCP stack.
Do you have the kernel version that they first "stole" the DSB code in. If so I can download it and finaly have conclusive evidance.
Yah and streetfighter the movie sucked too.
But this is not a videogame to movie transition.
The closest comparison is "The Wizard" It was not too bad a movie BTW.
Cool but it still bugs me when people say Linux just stole it's TCP/IP, VM etc from BSD.
They never offer any evidance of it and all it serves to do is belittle the efferts of the linux community.
I understand that these people don't represent the BSD community. It's still anoying though.
I'm verry thankfull for what Linux/GNU has given me for free. how else would a kid like me get access to UNIX a C compiler etc.
And if the BSD community supplied any of that they diserve there props too. But the guy didn't have to be a dick about it is all I'm trying to say .
The TCP stack for almost all OS's was {stolen|borrowed|based on} the TCP stack in BSD 4.x (IIRC). I remember once, a few years ago, a system engineer did a special sequence on a Windows 98 computer, and got the BSD copyright to show up.
We are drifting WAY OT here but oh well, they have to be based on BSD. BSD invented the socket. but AFAIK (and I could be wrong) the codebase is totally independent.
I have yet to see any evidence that Linux's TCP was stolen from BSD's and it really bugs me wen assumption is treated like fact.
Like for instance when people try to say that Leonardo da Vinci was gay. We don't know this for a fact. The only evidence is that he never married. But a lot of people say that he was gay like it's a fact. Its possible I'll give them that. But it's not a fact
That said until I see some evidence it's just a theory. Just like da Vinci.
sure they could. The BSD license lets anyone do whatever they want, including relicense the code as GPL. There is already BSD code in the Linux kernel.
Um okay but AFAIK the TCP stack and VM were not stolen from any where.
If they stole the TCP/IP stack then how come they have a statefull firewall and BSD dose not AFAIK (I could be wrong here).
And they have two competing VM's what did they do steal one from OpenBSD and the other from FreeBSD?.
Your either kidding or stupid.
Lets see.
No memory protection.
No pre-emtive multi-tasking.
No new development (everyones moving to X 9 is dead).
OSX is way more viable then OS9.
It's like comparing win 3.1 to win2000(or XP).
Works.
You have to make sure that FireWire drive mode is enabled.
Then go to:/Volumes/<iPOD name here>/iPod_Control/Music/
In there you'll find a lot of folders named Fxx
Containing all of your mp3's
As for shooting all the OS9 (l)users. What if they have old hardware?
they're overpriced, underpowered, fragile
Say what you will about the price. But these things are NOT fragile I must have droped mine like 10 times now. Not a dent.
I cind of like the before pictures better then the after ones.
The color looks washed out in the after pics.
I am looking at it on an LCD screen though that might have somthing to do with it.
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Nah, we drive over to buy Canadian beer cheaper.
You didn't read my comment. I said they were buying Canadian beer.
So let me get this straight, you have a cd-burner, and you don't backup your stuff or store pictures or important files?
;)
No I use it for all of those I just make audio CD's. Thats what the iPOD is for
By your analogy all he said he did was shoot a gun he never said any thing about killing anyone. There are perfectly legal resions to copy a cd. I copied a cd once to test out my burner (I've never bothered since).
Funny my pasport would beg to differ.
Well the canadians I'm talking about don't live verry that far from the US boarder and in keeping with canadian culture they drink copious amounts of beer. Now they do buy most of there beer in canada but when ever they do go to the US they make sure to geta LOT of beer.
Well at least we don't have the DMCA yet.
Yes and yet is the operative word
You know canadians will actualy drive to the US to buy canadian beer and smuggle it back to canada.
No, one they stole, one they wrote themselves.
Linux didn't steal shit otherwise someone would post some code comparissions by now. It's not exacly hard to get the code (There both free for download).
So my message to you trolls is put up or shut up.
I want to see proof showing that the code used in the linux kernel was copyed from BSD.
Until then go fuck you self.
That's funny in "Just for fun" Linus talks about how they built the first TCP stack out of a sockets interface one guy wrote so he could run X11 on Linux. Another poster pointed out here how the systemcalls are different and there for it is likely that Linux never used a BSD TCP stack.
Do you have the kernel version that they first "stole" the DSB code in. If so I can download it and finaly have conclusive evidance.
Yah and streetfighter the movie sucked too.
But this is not a videogame to movie transition.
The closest comparison is "The Wizard" It was not too bad a movie BTW.
Some one is a little sensitive.
Time of the month?
Cool but it still bugs me when people say Linux just stole it's TCP/IP, VM etc from BSD.
They never offer any evidance of it and all it serves to do is belittle the efferts of the linux community.
I understand that these people don't represent the BSD community. It's still anoying though.
I'm verry thankfull for what Linux/GNU has given me for free.
how else would a kid like me get access to UNIX a C compiler etc.
And if the BSD community supplied any of that they diserve there props too.
But the guy didn't have to be a dick about it is all I'm trying to say .
The TCP stack for almost all OS's was {stolen|borrowed|based on} the TCP stack in BSD 4.x (IIRC). I remember once, a few years ago, a system engineer did a special sequence on a Windows 98 computer, and got the BSD copyright to show up.
We are drifting WAY OT here but oh well, they have to be based on BSD. BSD invented the socket. but AFAIK (and I could be wrong) the codebase is totally independent.
I have yet to see any evidence that Linux's TCP was stolen from BSD's and it really bugs me wen assumption is treated like fact.
Like for instance when people try to say that Leonardo da Vinci was gay. We don't know this for a fact. The only evidence is that he never married. But a lot of people say that he was gay like it's a fact. Its possible I'll give them that. But it's not a fact
That said until I see some evidence it's just a theory. Just like da Vinci.
sure they could. The BSD license lets anyone do whatever they want, including relicense the code as GPL. There is already BSD code in the Linux kernel.
Um okay but AFAIK the TCP stack and VM were not stolen from any where.
If they stole the TCP/IP stack then how come they have a statefull firewall and BSD dose not AFAIK (I could be wrong here).
And they have two competing VM's what did they do steal one from OpenBSD and the other from FreeBSD?.
Linux has already ripped off BSD's VM and TCP/IP stacks; it may as well rip off their superior malloc() implementation as well.
Um no. If they ripped them off as you say they would not be able to licence them as GPL now could they?
Doesn't proftpd do zlib like wuftpd does?
Don't know (was hoping that someone on this board knew that).
And are those the ONLY things that EVER run on that box?
Now that you mention it on I also run sshd and mysql (on 127.0.0.1 no remote access)
The only things running on my boxen are:
Apache (no gzip) and proftpd.
I think I'm alright.
I use OSX FTR
Your either kidding or stupid.
Lets see.
No memory protection.
No pre-emtive multi-tasking.
No new development (everyones moving to X 9 is dead).
OSX is way more viable then OS9.
It's like comparing win 3.1 to win2000(or XP).
Works. You have to make sure that FireWire drive mode is enabled. /Volumes/<iPOD name here>/iPod_Control/Music/
Then go to:
In there you'll find a lot of folders named Fxx
Containing all of your mp3's
As for shooting all the OS9 (l)users. What if they have old hardware?
I prefer perl over PHP as perl can be used for anything. Not just webcontent.
they're overpriced, underpowered, fragile
Say what you will about the price. But these things are NOT fragile I must have droped mine like 10 times now. Not a dent.
I cind of like the before pictures better then the after ones.
The color looks washed out in the after pics.
I am looking at it on an LCD screen though that might have somthing to do with it.
monolinux that sound to much like an STD to me.
Jackson five?
Do you know a song that contains the word Alpha?