Trying to effect political change iwll help more people
Unless you happen to be wrong or misled.
So if you wind up harming people en-masse, then what?
Claiming that the truth is unknowable
The truth isn't unknowable. You simply haven't done the research to discover the truth for yourself. You're relying on hearsay.
It didn't even take a change in the law for ICE to start separating children from their parents, and it didn't take a chance in the law to stop it either. You argue that trying for political change is ineffective, when clearly it was effective in that case.
They started well before Trump took office. Because what's ALSO happening down on the border is CHILD TRAFFICKING. People picking up kids at the border, claiming to be the parents, and using loopholes in the law to escape. A change, years back, made this harder. As attempts are now made to actually verify whether or not said children actually ARE the offspring of the adult in question. Also, it came about because of rules changes stating that children being brought across by adults could NOT be incarcerated with the adults.
But keep focusing on images of babies being ripped from their mothers' arms...
You have blinders on. You only see what you're allowed to see. So you think it the sum total of everything...
Said by a man living in one of the countries that is the greatest beneficiary of Capitalism lifting a huge portion of the planet out of abject poverty...
Is Capitalism perfect? Of course not. But, carefully overseen, it's still a damn sight better than anything else humans have tried in the entirety of their history.
And why would I try to acquire a firearm in Europe? I don't live there. I don't care about it beyond the EU's self-destructive policies. I'm never going there, because I no longer view going there as a smart decision. Even for just general tourism.
"120 years too late"
Try 227. The Bill of Rights, and the 2nd Amendment have been ratified since 1791.
Also, if you think illegal firearms are hard to get in Europe, you're insane.
Question: Who are YOU to declare a right "obsolete"?
Simply because YOU see no value in it doesn't mean it has no value.
If you want to give up your own right to guns, feel free. I'm not gonna stop you.
But I deeply resent attempts to force or shame me into giving up mine. I own firearms. So what? I don't kill people with them. I don't allow criminals and crazies to use them to kill people either. I own a car. So what? I don't kill people with it. I don't allow criminals and crazies to use it to kill people either.
And before you start telling me that automobiles aren't designed to kill people, I will say "so what"? They still kill more people than firearms every year. Intent of a device doesn't negate reality.
It's not a tiny fraction. There are tens of thousands of shops and facilities all across the country with the wherewithal to fabricate firearms.
There are no less than FIVE maker-spaces in Chicago-proper. And ALL of them have the facilities to produce metal firearms, and several of them have the ability to produce 3D printed firearms.
And there's over a dozen more out in the suburbs.
And that's not even taking into account actual metal fabrication businesses.
Here's something concrete: in the USA, it's too easy to procure a gun.
Tell that to people in "may issue" counties.
Gun free zones, civilian guns, even police guns are irrelevant in the case someone with enough resolve decides to shoot a bunch of people, as long as guns are easily available for purchase by pretty much anyone.
You mean "criminals" and "crazy people"? You know, people who're already PROHIBTED BY LAW from owning firearms? Yet, somehow, they mysteriously do?
You DO understand that, even if there was universal confiscation of legally acquired firearms, that criminals would still be able to acquire guns right?
Guns, contrary to popular belief, are not terribly difficult to build (look up "zip gun"). They're relatively simple, uncomplicated mechanisms. And pretty much anyone with access to machine shop tools can fabricate a firearm and ammunition.
And, with the advent of 3D printing, creation of firearms is easier than ever. Sure, a plastic gun isn't very durable. But the evidence is even more easily destroyed now, and multiples can be printed, so that firepower can be kept up through "New York Reloads".
You're hallucinating if you think getting rid of legally acquired firearms will get rid of violence. Hell, getting rid of legally acquired firearms won't even get rid of GUN violence.
In the US, something is declared a "mass shooting" at 3-4 people. Dead or wounded.
Pretty sure someone popping off a firearm in commission of a crime is ALWAYS going to be classed a mass shooter.
Here in Chicago, pretty much EVERY thug-on-thug shooting on the South Side is a mass shooting. And I can pretty much GUARANTEE you that most (if not all) of them are committed with firearms that were NOT legally acquired.
As a law abiding citizen and firearm owner, why should I allow my rights to be abridged because of some criminal shitbag who wasn't even following the law in the first place?
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If you wanna protest, protest.
If you want to jack around the license of a software project that you are not the sole contributor to, that's not a protest.
How would we enforce something like this.
Everyone is a moron, sooner or later.
A death penalty would result, eventually, in the extermination of humanity.
Granted, to the pathological environmental carebears, this would not be a Bad Thing...
Trying to effect political change iwll help more people
Unless you happen to be wrong or misled.
So if you wind up harming people en-masse, then what?
Claiming that the truth is unknowable
The truth isn't unknowable. You simply haven't done the research to discover the truth for yourself. You're relying on hearsay.
It didn't even take a change in the law for ICE to start separating children from their parents, and it didn't take a chance in the law to stop it either. You argue that trying for political change is ineffective, when clearly it was effective in that case.
They started well before Trump took office. Because what's ALSO happening down on the border is CHILD TRAFFICKING. People picking up kids at the border, claiming to be the parents, and using loopholes in the law to escape. A change, years back, made this harder. As attempts are now made to actually verify whether or not said children actually ARE the offspring of the adult in question. Also, it came about because of rules changes stating that children being brought across by adults could NOT be incarcerated with the adults.
But keep focusing on images of babies being ripped from their mothers' arms...
You have blinders on. You only see what you're allowed to see. So you think it the sum total of everything...
There's "caring", and then there's pathological altruism.
What this guy did was the latter in the guise of the former.
Ignoring the question of how you could stop him from using Linux...
Yes. I'm willing to sacrifice many of my principles to fight NAZIs.
Now onto the real problem.
*Parades 1000 random people in front of you*
Now. Pick out the "nazi".
The problem with vindictive clauses like this is "what if this person is wrong about what they're trying to prevent"? What if they have gone nuts?
"This license prevents Joe Piscopo from using our software. Because Joe Piscopo eats babies."
*Cue Joe Piscopo* HUH?!?!?!?
Again, OSS is political about ONE THING. The freedom to use software for all.
Can anyone who wants to use your software? Yes? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Anything else is best avoided, as there are 7+ billion people out there on the planet. And very, VERY few share all of your biases.
No. It's cancer.
Kyle wasn't thrown under a bus.
He tried to make a major change to the licensing of software that wasn't entirely his own.
He was smacked for it. End of story.
Kyle's still free to fork "My Shitty, Politically Vindictive Learna Offshoot".
He's simply not being allowed to do it for the primary project.
Said by a man living in one of the countries that is the greatest beneficiary of Capitalism lifting a huge portion of the planet out of abject poverty...
Is Capitalism perfect? Of course not.
But, carefully overseen, it's still a damn sight better than anything else humans have tried in the entirety of their history.
Translation: Talking out your ass.
Good to know!
Notice I didn't say "guns".
I said "illegal firearms".
A fine point, but an important one.
"Whataboutism"
And right there it shows that you completely missed the point of the argument.
Fine. I don't give a shit.
How many kinder eggs require a background check?
And why would I try to acquire a firearm in Europe? I don't live there. I don't care about it beyond the EU's self-destructive policies.
I'm never going there, because I no longer view going there as a smart decision. Even for just general tourism.
"120 years too late"
Try 227. The Bill of Rights, and the 2nd Amendment have been ratified since 1791.
Also, if you think illegal firearms are hard to get in Europe, you're insane.
You're the one stating that "statistics" contradict them.
Bring forth said "statistics".
things do certainly happen in first world countries (except no go zones, that's a myth)
Hahaha! Okay, narrative junkie confirmed. I'm going to stop paying attention to you now.
Somebody's been drinking the Kommie Kool-Aid again...
The real fantasy is this.
"Guns are readily available with barely any regulation."
Have you ever tried to purchase a firearm here in the US?
And it still ignores the fact that CRIMINALS AND CRAZIES DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAW.
Question: Who are YOU to declare a right "obsolete"?
Simply because YOU see no value in it doesn't mean it has no value.
If you want to give up your own right to guns, feel free. I'm not gonna stop you.
But I deeply resent attempts to force or shame me into giving up mine.
I own firearms. So what? I don't kill people with them. I don't allow criminals and crazies to use them to kill people either.
I own a car. So what? I don't kill people with it. I don't allow criminals and crazies to use it to kill people either.
And before you start telling me that automobiles aren't designed to kill people, I will say "so what"? They still kill more people than firearms every year. Intent of a device doesn't negate reality.
It's not a tiny fraction. There are tens of thousands of shops and facilities all across the country with the wherewithal to fabricate firearms.
There are no less than FIVE maker-spaces in Chicago-proper. And ALL of them have the facilities to produce metal firearms, and several of them have the ability to produce 3D printed firearms.
And there's over a dozen more out in the suburbs.
And that's not even taking into account actual metal fabrication businesses.
Here's something concrete: in the USA, it's too easy to procure a gun.
Tell that to people in "may issue" counties.
Gun free zones, civilian guns, even police guns are irrelevant in the case someone with enough resolve decides to shoot a bunch of people, as long as guns are easily available for purchase by pretty much anyone.
You mean "criminals" and "crazy people"? You know, people who're already PROHIBTED BY LAW from owning firearms?
Yet, somehow, they mysteriously do?
You DO understand that, even if there was universal confiscation of legally acquired firearms, that criminals would still be able to acquire guns right?
Guns, contrary to popular belief, are not terribly difficult to build (look up "zip gun"). They're relatively simple, uncomplicated mechanisms. And pretty much anyone with access to machine shop tools can fabricate a firearm and ammunition.
And, with the advent of 3D printing, creation of firearms is easier than ever. Sure, a plastic gun isn't very durable. But the evidence is even more easily destroyed now, and multiples can be printed, so that firepower can be kept up through "New York Reloads".
You're hallucinating if you think getting rid of legally acquired firearms will get rid of violence.
Hell, getting rid of legally acquired firearms won't even get rid of GUN violence.
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But but but! He called 1-800-INSTACOP
The problem is, by the time someone notices a gun in a GFZ, calls the cops, and the cops arrive, you're talking minutes AT BEST.
In that time, some freak can open up and spray a crowd down.
So what?
Ever heard of a New York Reload?
Internet time. Anything that happened more than a day ago is pre-history....
In the US, something is declared a "mass shooting" at 3-4 people. Dead or wounded.
Pretty sure someone popping off a firearm in commission of a crime is ALWAYS going to be classed a mass shooter.
Here in Chicago, pretty much EVERY thug-on-thug shooting on the South Side is a mass shooting.
And I can pretty much GUARANTEE you that most (if not all) of them are committed with firearms that were NOT legally acquired.
As a law abiding citizen and firearm owner, why should I allow my rights to be abridged because of some criminal shitbag who wasn't even following the law in the first place?